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Lebron23
05-20-2020, 08:13 PM
15 ppg on 38 FG shooting, 4.2 apg, and 3.7 rpg. Even a 38 years old Shaq out played him in the 2010 playoffs series vs the Boston Celtics. Does Mo Williams had a migraine in both series? And people are criticizing lebron's performance against them.

Duncan21formvp
05-20-2020, 08:16 PM
He isn't a spot up shooter, so he wouldn't work well with someone who has the ball all the time for 20 seconds of the shot clock.

Lebron23
05-20-2020, 08:17 PM
He isn't a spot up shooter, so he wouldn't work well with someone who has the ball all the time for 20 seconds of the shot clock.

He scored 55 points in an nba game. Mo disappeared in the playoffs when lebron needed him the most.

Duncan21formvp
05-20-2020, 08:22 PM
He scored 55 points in an nba game. Mo disappeared in the playoffs when lebron needed him the most.

Again you aren't going to do much if another player has the rock for 20 seconds of the shot clock all the time unless you are a spot up shooter.

If another player on the squad had the rock for 20 seconds of the shot clock nearly all the time and passed to Lebron after that what would he be able to do for his stats?

Turbo Slayer
05-20-2020, 08:24 PM
Again you aren't going to do much if another player has the rock for 20 seconds of the shot clock all the time unless you are a spot up shooter.

Whats up dumbass? Mo Williams barely impacts the game. His BPM is literally only slightly positive or zero at all. Good luck handing the ball to Mo Williams.

HylianNightmare
05-20-2020, 08:26 PM
15,4 4 should be enough help for Mr 1-5 right?

Axe
05-20-2020, 08:40 PM
Give it a break man. Besides, a bball guru in this board has confirmed that he was a greater player than pippen was during their respective careers.

Lebron23
05-20-2020, 08:43 PM
And here is lebron stats against the same teams 33 ppg on 46 fg shooting, 9 rpg, 8 apg, and 1.5 spg. And you blamed lebron for losing both series.

3ball
05-20-2020, 08:47 PM
15 ppg on 38 FG shooting, 4.2 apg, and 3.7 rpg. Even a 38 years old Shaq out played him in the 2010 playoffs series vs the Boston Celtics. Does Mo Williams had a migraine in both series? And people are criticizing lebron's performance against them.

Mo was 3rd option in 2010, so your stats are invalid

Regarding 09', MJ beat numerous teams better than Dwight's Magic with less help from his sidekick than 09' Mo and a worse defense than the 09 Cavs (#3)

Axe
05-20-2020, 09:27 PM
Give it a break man. Besides, a bball guru in this board has confirmed that he was a greater player than pippen was during their respective careers.
By 'he', i was talking about mo williams, not lbj. Just to be sure so y'all don't get confused.

Lebron23
05-21-2020, 04:19 PM
15,4 4 should be enough help for Mr 1-5 right?

No nba legend are capable of winning an nba championship if his sidekick only averaged 15/4/4.

3ball
05-21-2020, 04:38 PM
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Mo had 18 on 38% and the #3 team defense in the 09' ECF - MJ won all these series with less help from Pippen and a worse team defense



Pippen ststs

1988 RD 1 vs. CLE......10.6 on 47.1

1989 RD 1 vs. CLE......15.0 on 39.8%

1992 ECSF vs NYN.....16.0 on 40.2%

1993 RD 1 vs. ATL..... 15.0 on 42.2%

1996 ECSF vs NYN.... 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA... 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS.....16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF vs. MIA..... 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECF vs IND....... 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA... 15.7 on 41.0%


So what is OP complaining about?... Btw, many of those opponents had better SRS than Dwight's Magic (4)

Lebron23
05-22-2020, 06:39 PM
More shots, More Problems.

AirBonner
05-22-2020, 06:41 PM
But he’s better than Pippen

3ball
05-22-2020, 06:43 PM
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- 09' Lebron lost to #4 SRS Magic with.. #3 defense and 18 on 38% from Mo
- 89' Jordan defeat #1 SRS Cavs.. with #11 defense and 15 on 40% from Pip


So MJ beat a better team with less help on both sides of the ball

Real Men Wear Green
05-22-2020, 06:51 PM
If someone is dumb enough to think Mo Williams is better than Pip I shouldn't react to them picking Brandon Ingram over Pip. My bad.

3ball
05-22-2020, 07:24 PM
If someone is dumb enough to think Mo Williams is better than Pip I shouldn't react to them picking Brandon Ingram over Pip. My bad.

Mo Williams and a lot of guys are better than 89' Pippen.. does your screen recognize numbers?... that's e-i-g-h-t-y (space) n-i-n-e Pippen

Not that it matters, because Lebron had the #3 defense - that's far better defensive help and coaching than Collins was working with - so lebron had a much better offensive sidekick and better team defensive help overall.

And the reality is that Lebron was gifted a 1st-team all-defender and 22/5/5 slasher, but reduced him to rubble - as usual, lebron's inability to play an assisted or "shooter" role prevents another non-shooter from playing to capacity as a part-time ball-handler (pippen).. the reality is that MJ might've lit that 22/5/5 fire under Hughes as the starting point guard and MJ at the 2 - they beat the Spurs because the anemic bron-ball nearly won 3 games despite lebron playing like.. Hughes