Kawhi 1st Year Out East vs Lebron 1st Year Out West - How was it so Easy for Kawhi?

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Reminder - Kawhi used the Eastern Conference as a rehabilitation tune-up season and went back out West afterwards.

Did Kawhi even break a sweat out East?

How was he able to accomplish so much out East against the best of the best?

Compare this with Lebron's first year out West.

How did Lebron do? How many wins was he able to get?

What happened after he activated playoff mode?

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[ImKobe]

Not only did he win immediately after going East, but he beat better teams than Lebron faced from 2013-2018. Would you take any of Lebron's opponents from that era over Milwaukee or Philly? How many times did Lebron face a player as good as Giannis out East?

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Not only did he win immediately after going East, but he beat better teams than Lebron faced from 2013-2018. Would you take any of Lebron's opponents from that era over Milwaukee or Philly? How many times did Lebron face a player as good as Giannis out East?


Zero...

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Beat Giannis, Simmons, Embid, and Curry...

AND THEN went back West :lol

Does he respect the East at all after this?

[ImKobe]

Beat Giannis, Simmons, Embid, and Curry...

AND THEN went back West :lol

Does he respect the East at all after this?

He was disgusted at how easy it was. Canada was willing to make him president to stay on the Raptors, he wanted a real challenge out West.

[LAL]

Shit's funny and true.

[Stanley Kobrick]

these threads would have aged much better if the 35 old Bran was sitting 8-12th seed right now. but to our worst fears here we are with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard joining a 48 win Clippers team and it's in fact them that are the ones taking a runner up seat right now to LeSenior citizen and out West. as an unbiased michael, lebron kobe hater I can say one thing, if kawhi gets his pants pulled down by old man bran with the depth on those clips? it's going to be unprecedented oforum torture with endless parading bumped threads like this one. i may have to exile for awhile as i know some other will too

[ThatCoolKid]

Raptors were stacked. A superteam. Historically good defense with unparalled offensive depth. Kawhi load managed his way to a chip. No Lebron team would have ever been able to do that.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Raptors were stacked. A superteam. Historically good defense with unparalled offensive depth. Kawhi load managed his way to a chip. No Lebron team would have ever been able to do that.

The moment they win a title they became a superteam, huh? That was a very good team that played against very good teams. Especially in the East.

[Turbo Slayer]

Nice trolling OP.

Hope you enjoyed it.

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He was disgusted at how easy it was. Canada was willing to make him president to stay on the Raptors, he wanted a real challenge out West.

Lol. The Hero that the NBA needs

[scuzzy]

Kobe stans on their final stand

Squeezing out the last few drips of humor and hope before LeGramps hoists his 4th Bill Russell medallion in none other that Staples center to Lakers fans roaring MVP. What an absolute nightmare on the horizon

But don't think for a second that it couldn't get worse. It's a very strong possibility Raps zip right through the East without Kawhi and we get our 4th Lebronto manslaughter :oldlol:

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Won it for another country, and then Lebron BEGGED HIM to come to the Lakers. What does Kawhi do? Lead Lebron on for two months and then goes to the Clippers

[LAmbruh]

Kobe stans on their final stand

Squeezing out the last few drips of humor and hope before LeGramps hoists his 4th Bill Russell medallion in none other that Staples center to Lakers fans roaring MVP. What an absolute nightmare on the horizon

But don't think for a second that it couldn't get worse. It's a very strong possibility Raps zip right through the East without Kawhi and we get our 4th Lebronto manslaughter :oldlol:Finals Bran vs Celts

Finals Bran vs Raps

Pick your poison

2017 + 2018 ECF really was the Finals :confusedshrug:

[ImKobe]

Kobe stans on their final stand

Squeezing out the last few drips of humor and hope before LeGramps hoists his 4th Bill Russell medallion in none other that Staples center to Lakers fans roaring MVP. What an absolute nightmare on the horizon

But don't think for a second that it couldn't get worse. It's a very strong possibility Raps zip right through the East without Kawhi and we get our 4th Lebronto manslaughter :oldlol:

Not going to happen in LA, buddy. Imagine thinking this Disney World championship is going to mean anything. He already has one asterisk ring (2012 lockout) + 2 bailouts in the Finals.

[tpols]

it is pretty crazy siakam was his sidekick... a guy coming into the year averaged a paltry 8 ppg.

It's almost like he was trying to make it a challenge to win.

Meanwhile Lebron misses the playoffs with ingram, kuzma, and lonzo who were all considered better coming into the year.

[deathawaitu]

We all know Lebron had it easy for a decade out in the East.

The moment East started to become better, he bolted to the West.

However, his plan back fired since he only won 29 games as a lakers that year =(

[dazzer87]

Beat Giannis, Simmons, Embid, and Curry...

AND THEN went back West :lol

Does he respect the East at all after this?

You notice how LeGoat dipped out of the east when these guys started getting better.......:lol

[scuzzy]

Finals Bran vs Celts

Finals Bran vs Raps

Pick your poison

2017 + 2018 ECF really was the Finals :confusedshrug:
Boston zip into Finals after shedding Kyrie? :biggums: Raps right back flourishing after shedding Kiwi? :biggums:

Man, gonna be a rough pill to swallow watching a parade down Figueroa on the very save avenue which held Kobe's memorial months earlier.

One could say the worst possible outcome that could go wrong for Kobe stans is sharp on it's trajectory :(

Cyanide and 2021 Nets jerseys already on standby

[Docs Orders]

Boston zip into Finals after shedding Kyrie? :biggums: Raps right back flourishing after shedding Kiwi? :biggums:

Man, gonna be a rough pill to swallow watching a parade down Figueroa on the very save avenue which held Kobe's memorial months earlier.

One could say the worst possible outcome that could go wrong for Kobe stans is sharp on it's trajectory :(

Cyanide and 2021 Nets jerseys already on standby
lol

I feel bad for Kawhi because he probably thinks he has all these LA supporters and fans. Little does he know it's just KoBrick stans peddling him around as their usual temporary puppet until their next commodity (14 George, 15-16 Curry, 17-18 Durant, etc). It changes every season dependent on the best player on a top #1-2 team, very simple formula for a very simple fanbase

Hard dickriding Nets for SURE next year, but if Giannis superteams? Neck deep in Greek poo dey go 100!!!! loolol :banana:

[Turbo Slayer]

LeBron is likely to never win a ring again. One would hope for a miracle.

[dbugz]

LeQuit thrive on weak east. Everyone knows that already.

He went to the West, his 1st year? no playoffs
2nd year? Needed another heeeellppppp

Next.

[Lebron23]

LeQuit thrive on weak east. Everyone knows that already.

He went to the West, his 1st year? no playoffs
2nd year? Needed another heeeellppppp

Next.

He only played 55 games last year due to injury.

[ImKobe]

He only played 55 games last year due to injury.

Didn't he go "Playoff mode" with the Lakers right in the middle of the Playoff race? Care to tell us what happened?

[Lebron23]

Didn't he go "Playoff mode" with the Lakers right in the middle of the Playoff race? Care to tell us what happened?

He had a terrible supporting casts. And by that time the Lakers were at the bottom of the west. Lebron was kinda tired after 8 trips in the nba finals. Glad they missed the playoffs instead of being destroy by the Warriors in the first round.

[ImKobe]

He had a terrible supporting casts. And by that time the Lakers were at the bottom of the west. Lebron was kinda tired after 8 trips in the nba finals. Glad they missed the playoffs instead of being destroy by the Warriors in the first round.

Of course. The team around him had to be terrible. He was never at fault. Lebron's never played a single bad game in his career. Thanks for your input. It's not like he was getting his ass busted by the Knicks, or getting blown out by 40+ points by Indiana.. nope.

[tpols]

Glad they missed the playoffs instead of being destroy by the Warriors in the first round.

thats some strong deja vu huh?

:lol

[Lebron23]

thats some strong deja vu huh?

:lol

And now the lakers are a better team than the Warriors.

[tpols]

And now the lakers are a better team than the Warriors.

Anthony Davis is a hell of a drug.

*tips hat*

[scuzzy]

. Imagine thinking this Disney World championship is going to mean anything. He already has one asterisk ring (2012 lockout) + 2 bailouts in the Finals.

The bitterness already ramped up to lvl 1000 and playoffs haven't even begun :applause:

Imkobe rolling out the 2month old soaked tampon from quarantine

You heard it boys , every superbowl, college bowl, PPV title and olympics were astericked :oldlol: sick damage control b, 10/10 oozing sodium

[Stanley Kobrick]

The bitterness already ramped up to lvl 1000 and playoffs haven't even begun :applause:

Imkobe rolling out the 2month old soaked tampon from quarantine

You heard it boys , every superbowl, college bowl, PPV title and olympics were astericked :oldlol: sick damage control b, 10/10 oozing sodium
Mickey Mouse is a bran stand so it does give the HCA edge

[ImKobe]

The bitterness already ramped up to lvl 1000 and playoffs haven't even begun :applause:

Imkobe rolling out the 2month old soaked tampon from quarantine

You heard it boys , every superbowl, college bowl, PPV title and olympics were astericked :oldlol: sick damage control b, 10/10 oozing sodium

Lebron could be the first player in NBA history to win the Disney World MVP!

[LAL]

Of course. The team around him had to be terrible. He was never at fault. Lebron's never played a single bad game in his career. Thanks for your input. It's not like he was getting his ass busted by the Knicks, or getting blown out by 40+ points by Indiana.. nope.

Was that the same game?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p7vfCBC0_HU/hqdefault.jpg

[Lebron23]

Mickey Mouse is a bran stand so it does give the HCA edge

Disney own the World. Heard they are also planning to buy the WWE.

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Was that the same game?
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Geez. I remember this. The "before AD days". 42 point loss by a Oladipo-less Pacers.

[Axe]

Raptors were stacked. A superteam. Historically good defense with unparalled offensive depth. Kawhi load managed his way to a chip. No Lebron team would have ever been able to do that.
You call them a superteam for being knocked off in the postseason by bran until kawhi played for them? :oldlol:

[RRR3]

This thread is cancer.

[r0drig0lac]

He was disgusted at how easy it was. Canada was willing to make him president to stay on the Raptors, he wanted a real challenge out West.

Kawhi is the 2010s alpha http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/bowdown.gif http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/pimp.gif

[Axe]

And now the lakers are a better team than the Warriors.
With the help of AD and dwight howard, of course.

[fourkicks44]

Reminder - Kawhi used the Eastern Conference as a rehabilitation tune-up season and went back out West afterwards.

Did Kawhi even break a sweat out East?

How was he able to accomplish so much out East against the best of the best?

Compare this with Lebron's first year out West.

How did Lebron do? How many wins was he able to get?

What happened after he activated playoff mode?


I feel sorry for you, man

I can't even insult you anymore.

I just feel bad.

You sound like a crazy person.

All these years of posting and you still don't realize how stupid you sound?

[Roundball_Rock]

Player A: joined a 35 team
Player B: joined a 48 win team that also added a second elite player (3rd in MVP and 1st team all-NBA ) in Paul George

Hmm...I wonder what the difference could be?

We have never seen Kawhi on anything but a stacked team. He was drafted by a Spurs team that tied for the best record in the NBA before he got there. Then he went to another #1 seed that won 59 games before Kawhi and has the 3rd best record in the NBA after him.

[Axe]

Player A: joined a 35 team
Player B: joined a 48 win team that also added a second elite player (3rd in MVP and 1st team all-NBA ) in Paul George

Hmm...I wonder what the difference could be?

We have never seen Kawhi on anything but a stacked team. He was drafted by a Spurs team that tied for the best record in the NBA before he got there. Then he went to another #1 seed that won 59 games before Kawhi and has the 3rd best record in the NBA after him.
Kawhi was drafted by a spurs team? Seriously?

God, i didn't realize you're actually this dumb. I guess that's the effect for typing too much shit with your keyboard.

[deathawaitu]

Player A: joined a 35 team
Player B: joined a 48 win team that also added a second elite player (3rd in MVP and 1st team all-NBA ) in Paul George

Hmm...I wonder what the difference could be?

We have never seen Kawhi on anything but a stacked team. He was drafted by a Spurs team that tied for the best record in the NBA before he got there. Then he went to another #1 seed that won 59 games before Kawhi and has the 3rd best record in the NBA after him.

So basically Lebron didn't improve the Lakers at all during his first year, they were still a 35ish win team =(. Thank god AD came and saved the Lakers from another failed season

So what you saying is, wherever Kawhi goes that team instantly becomes a championship contender? If only Lebron had that kind of impact :cry:

[Roundball_Rock]

So basically Lebron didn't improve the Lakers at all during his first year, they were still a 35ish win team

They were 28-27 with him (42 win pace) and 9-18 without him (27 win pace). That would qualify as an improvement, although not the astronomical improvement we saw from LeBron in Cleveland and Miami.

How about Toronto? 17-5 without Kawhi, 41-19 without him. So a 63 win pace without Kawhi and a 56 win pace with him. Remember, they won 59 the year before with him and again had a 59 win pace their year without Kawhi.

So even an old LeBron is having more team impact than peak Kawhi. That passing the ball stuff helps.


So what you saying is, wherever Kawhi goes that team instantly becomes a championship contender?

Those teams were already contenders before he set foot there, except for the Clippers and Kawhi needed PG with him to do that.

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I feel sorry for you, man

I can't even insult you anymore.

I just feel bad.

You sound like a crazy person.

All these years of posting and you still don't realize how stupid you sound?

Hmmm. You miss me?

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Again - how was he able to do it and make it look so easy?

[Akeem34TheDream]

'19 East had better competition than '09 and '10 West did so OP should be quiet before any other possible comparison.

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'19 East had better competition than '09 and '10 West did so OP should be quiet before any other possible comparison.

So how many rings you think Kawhi would have if he played out East his entire career? How many "straight finals appearances" does he accrue?

[Turbo Slayer]

So how many rings you think Kawhi would have if he played out East his entire career? How many "straight finals appearances" does he accrue?

Youre speaking hypotheticals. You dont include injuries and development. Kawhi didnt develop into a superstar until 2017.


you think Kawhi would have if he played out East his entire career? Well, it depends. If Kawhi was placed on the Wizards for his whole career then yeah....zero rings and we wouldnt be talking about like Kawhi is a bonafide star who shows capability to excel in the Playoffs and in the Finals.

Also its a team game, idiot. No one wins 1 v 5.

[Akeem34TheDream]

So how many rings you think Kawhi would have if he played out East his entire career? How many "straight finals appearances" does he accrue?

I can't answer this question. So many factors are in there. Does Kawhi stay healthy? Which team does he play for? Does he reach his prime relatively late like he did in Spurs? Lebron isn't as good as his stats but he isn't as bad as his finals record.

[Wally450]

Kawhi formed a superteam with Paul George and no one batted an eye. Think about that.

[ThatCoolKid]

Kawhi formed a superteam with Paul George and no one batted an eye. Think about that.

It's because no one cares about Kawhii tbh. People like OP pray for super teams to form to stop Lebron from taking the GOAT throne.

[RRR3]

Never forget OP only comes to ISH when he is tired of being mocked and laughed at on realgm. Which I guess is often lately :lol

He behaves himself a little better on realgm though, knowing full well he'd get permabanned there if he made threads like this.

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Kawhi formed a superteam with Paul George and no one batted an eye. Think about that.

THis was after Lebron spent 3 months trying to recruit him to the Lakers with AD and himself. Pathetic stuff.

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Never forget OP only comes to ISH when he is tired of being mocked and laughed at on realgm. Which I guess is often lately :lol

He behaves himself a little better on realgm though, knowing full well he'd get permabanned there if he made threads like this.

Geez. Wtf are you talking about kiddo? You're the 2nd person mentioning this.

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it is pretty crazy siakam was his sidekick... a guy coming into the year averaged a paltry 8 ppg.

It's almost like he was trying to make it a challenge to win.

Meanwhile Lebron misses the playoffs with ingram, kuzma, and lonzo who were all considered better coming into the year.

Yeah. Strange year last season was, for sure. I wonder what the main difference between this season and last season is.

[Turbo Slayer]

Geez. Wtf are you talking about kiddo? You're the 2nd person mentioning this. Sensitive ass.

[Turbo Slayer]

Never forget OP only comes to ISH when he is tired of being mocked and laughed at on realgm. Which I guess is often lately :lol

He behaves himself a little better on realgm though, knowing full well he'd get permabanned there if he made threads like this.

:lol

3ball got permabanned on Realgm too.

[RogueBorg]

. That would qualify as an improvement, although not the astronomical improvement we saw from LeBron in Cleveland and Miami.


The LEast said to tell you "Hello."

[RRR3]

Geez. Wtf are you talking about kiddo? You're the 2nd person mentioning this.
Look at you getting absolutely BULLIED in this thread: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1854597&start=20


You come crying here with your tail tucked between your legs because serious basketball fans one realgm regard you as a feeble troll :roll:

[ThatCoolKid]

Look at you getting absolutely BULLIED in this thread: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1854597&start=20


You come crying here with your tail tucked between your legs because serious basketball fans one realgm regard you as a feeble troll :roll:

Wow - that's really sad. I guess I should be nicer to OP. I didn't realize this was the only site he had left. Hey OP - I'll stop bullying you, don't worry.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Look at you getting absolutely BULLIED in this thread: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1854597&start=20


You come crying here with your tail tucked between your legs because serious basketball fans one realgm regard you as a feeble troll :roll:

Who are you on RealGM?

[RRR3]

Who are you on RealGM?
Same username :cheers: Don't post a lot. Have some posts on the Miami Heat subforum too.

Hbu?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Same username :cheers: Don't post a lot. Have some posts on the Miami Heat subforum too.

Hbu?

Cool bro.

I'm agetro23

Only got a few posts as well. Some good debates on there but mainly on the PC board. Check my post history on Chris Paul and Lebron. You might And1 them :pimp:

[RRR3]

Cool bro.

I'm agetro23

Only got a few posts as well. Some good debates on there but mainly on the PC board. Check my post history on Chris Paul and Lebron. You might And1 them :pimp:
Haha maybe. Where do you rank CP3 all time? I got him top 25, with a case for top 20.

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Look at you getting absolutely BULLIED in this thread: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1854597&start=20


You come crying here with your tail tucked between your legs because serious basketball fans one realgm regard you as a feeble troll :roll:

Lmao! You have some serious mental health issues brother. Not only is that not me, but the fact you roam multiple NBA forums and keep a list of posters who you don't like is weird af.

What's your real life like??

[fourkicks44]

Hmmm. You miss me?

Well I guess we all have our roles and place on Insidehoops.

We even need a village idiot.

Congrats, kid.

[scuzzy]

Look at you getting absolutely BULLIED in this thread: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1854597&start=20


You come crying here with your tail tucked between your legs because serious basketball fans one realgm regard you as a feeble troll :roll:
:oldlol:

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Well I guess we all have our roles and place on Insidehoops.

We even need a village idiot.

Congrats, kid.

I've missed your VORP references. All nerds don't wear capes.

[RRR3]

Lmao! You have some serious mental health issues brother. Not only is that not me, but the fact you roam multiple NBA forums and keep a list of posters who you don't like is weird af.

What's your real life like??
Are you really gonna sit here and lie to me? That is either you or someone who magically posts exactly like you and has the exact same agenda. So unless you have a twin running around on RGM, I'm gonna go ahead and say that is, in fact you. But, I know it's you and a simple post search of your realgm account confirmed it. I went through a few pages of your posts on realgm, and lo and behold I was able to google keywords you used and find similar posts on ISH.

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[RRR3]

Lmao! You have some serious mental health issues brother. Not only is that not me, but the fact you roam multiple NBA forums and keep a list of posters who you don't like is weird af.

What's your real life like??
Admitting you post on realgm:

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More evidence

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[RRR3]

Don't straight up lie to us, 34-24. You forgot two important things:

1. Many of us post on both forums. It's not just you.
2. RGM has a function that lets you search through users posts. I only had to search through the first 2-3 pages of your post history to find out it was you. Maybe change your posting style next time, slugger.


I'm sure you'll muster up a feeble variation of "rent free" after you've been exposed as a liar.

[scuzzy]

10/10 exposure, rip

[HBK_Kliq_2]

It would make more sense to compare 2011 Lebron to 2019 Kawhi.

2019 Lebron didn't have anybody on his team.

[Axe]

It would make more sense to compare 2011 Lebron to 2019 Kawhi.

2019 Lebron didn't have anybody on his team.
Interestingly, they had the same regular season record and thus, had homecourt advantages but the outcomes in the finals were different.

Favoritism amongst the two teams were opposite also in their respective finals series; the heat were heavily favored 9 years ago while the raptors were the underdogs last year.

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Don't straight up lie to us, 34-24. You forgot two important things:

1. Many of us post on both forums. It's not just you.
2. RGM has a function that lets you search through users posts. I only had to search through the first 2-3 pages of your post history to find out it was you. Maybe change your posting style next time, slugger.


I'm sure you'll muster up a feeble variation of "rent free" after you've been exposed as a liar.

Seek help kiddo. Not sure what you were trying to prove. However, it figures that guy who openly professed his love for transsexual women on a basketball forum goes around as the Lebron police from forum to forum.

Can't make the shit up.

[RRR3]

That was a truly feeble comeback, NeutralObserver. Sad to see your time on RGM hasn't made you any smarter.

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That was a truly feeble comeback, NeutralObserver. Sad to see your time on RGM hasn't made you any smarter.

Like I said man, seek help. You're stalking random posters and comparing them with others for some weird satisfaction. I've seen it all.

[knicksman]

If youre not a statnerd, youll understand why jordan type of players are the easiest to build around.

[SATAN]

LMAO KL literally flukes getting anywhere in the playoffs last year and was lucky GS became depleted. ESPN and co thought calling him the next Jordan to make them millions off the back of mindless sheep was the way to move forward since "LeBron was getting to old". You are the not even the product, just an afterthought within the whole spectacle. NBA fans go bah bah :lol

[Axe]

LMAO KL literally flukes getting anywhere in the playoffs last year and was lucky GS became depleted. ESPN and co thought calling him the next Jordan to make them millions off the back of mindless sheep was the way to move forward since "LeBron was getting to old". You are the not even the product, just an afterthought within the whole spectacle. NBA fans go bah bah :lol
Thanks for composing the dumbest narrative ever.

[Duncan21formvp]

Reminder - Kawhi used the Eastern Conference as a rehabilitation tune-up season and went back out West afterwards.

Did Kawhi even break a sweat out East?

How was he able to accomplish so much out East against the best of the best?

Compare this with Lebron's first year out West.

How did Lebron do? How many wins was he able to get?

What happened after he activated playoff mode?
Great post!

[light]

Kawhi went to a team that didnt need him to get to the ECF.

He went to a team that would've already been to the Finals if LeBron went west sooner.

On the other hand, LeBron went to a POS team in LA.

If Kawhi went to Cleveland instead of Toronto he would still only have 1 ring.

It's not difficult to understand.

[Duncan21formvp]

Kawhi went to a team that didnt need him to get to the ECF.

He went to a team that would've already been to the Finals if LeBron went west sooner.

On the other hand, LeBron went to a POS team in LA.

If Kawhi went to Cleveland instead of Toronto he would still only have 1 ring.

It's not difficult to understand.

Lebron went to the winniest franchise in NBA History and missed the playoffs.:oldlol: Kawhi went to a franchise that never won anything in it's history and won a title in his first year there.