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StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 12:15 PM
If you hate on Curry, then you are just exposing yourself as low IQ. This guy is the second best PG after Magic, yet he gets no respect. Curry's playoff and Finals numbers are Kobe-esque, but no one wants to admit that.

I don't understand how people try to diss Curry because he's not on Peak KD and Lebron's level? There are only maybe 10 guys total that can compete with Peak KD and Lebron...so how are people criticizing Curry and acting like he isn't an all-time great himself just because he is a tier below them?

Stephonit
05-25-2020, 12:17 PM
The funny thing is Curry has victories over peak KD and LeBron.

Turbo Slayer
05-25-2020, 12:17 PM
What??? No one is tryna act like Curry is not an all-time great. He deserves to be mentioned with the likes of Magic, etc... Had one of the greatest peaks in the 3 point era.

Jordan96
05-25-2020, 12:17 PM
He’s only 3/5 in the Finals despite being heavy favorites in every series

Think about it, every Finals had odds makers make him prohibitive favorites, and he still lost 40% of the time


Seems like an overrated choker to me :confusedshrug:

Akeem34TheDream
05-25-2020, 12:18 PM
Best regular season performer of all time

StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 12:18 PM
What??? No one is tryna act like Curry is not an all-time great. He deserves to be mentioned with the likes of Magic, etc... Had one of the greatest peaks in the 3 point era.

See post below you.

StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 12:20 PM
The funny thing is Curry has victories over peak KD and LeBron.

Victory from a team perspective does not equal better.

Stephonit
05-25-2020, 12:24 PM
Victory from a team perspective does not equal better.

Depends but I see no reason to say Curry wasn't the reason for the victories.

tpols
05-25-2020, 12:27 PM
people always point to the one bad series 2016, but kobe and lebron were both worse in 2004 and 2011 respectively.

people shit on chef and act like he was a bum over his one black mark but fail to do that for other stars.

Turbo Slayer
05-25-2020, 12:28 PM
He’s only 3/5 in the Finals despite being heavy favorites in every series

Think about it, every Finals had odds makers make him prohibitive favorites, and he still lost 40% of the time


Seems like an overrated choker to me :confusedshrug: How come a choker wins multiple championships? Explain that shit to me again. Also Curry holds 5 of top 15 best scoring 4th qtr in the Finals this decade. You gotta learn how to think with a brain idiot.

Monta Ellis MVP
05-25-2020, 12:33 PM
people always point to the one bad series 2016, but kobe and lebron were both worse in 2004 and 2011 respectively.

people shit on chef and act like he was a bum over his one black mark but fail to do that for other stars.

Honestly Curry looked drained and banged up after that race they had to 73 wins then getting injured in the playoffs. The Cavaliers based their whole defense around taking him out of the game too. I was surprised when I saw what Curry’s career averages are in the Finals and Playoffs. They are very good despite some saying he doesn’t perform.

Akeem34TheDream
05-25-2020, 12:39 PM
Honestly Curry looked drained and banged up after that race they had to 73 wins then getting injured in the playoffs. The Cavaliers based their whole defense around taking him out of the game too. I was surprised when I saw what Curry’s career averages are in the Finals and Playoffs. They are very good despite some saying he doesn’t perform.

People shouldn't bully Curry because he was hurt. And he is small, also bullying is wrong. Right?:oldlol:

Rico2016
05-25-2020, 12:46 PM
Honestly Curry looked drained and banged up after that race they had to 73 wins then getting injured in the playoffs. The Cavaliers based their whole defense around taking him out of the game too. I was surprised when I saw what Curry’s career averages are in the Finals and Playoffs. They are very good despite some saying he doesn’t perform.

Injury you say? Tsk tsk. He wasn't.

You don't think Curry disappearing under the brightest lights wasn't the biggest culprit? The leader and commander of a 73-win team goes up 3-1 and shits the bed and you don't think that affects his troops?

https://i.postimg.cc/3x8SyjDD/2016-curry-playoffs-revise.png

Rico2016
05-25-2020, 12:47 PM
To answer OP, 100% YES he is underrated. He is just easy to bully because he has 0 FMVPs but he is a great player.

Stephonit
05-25-2020, 12:53 PM
Injury you say? Tsk tsk. He wasn't.

You don't think Curry disappearing under the brightest lights wasn't the biggest culprit? The leader and commander of a 73-win team goes up 3-1 and shits the bed and you don't think that affects his troops?

https://i.postimg.cc/3x8SyjDD/2016-curry-playoffs-revise.png


22.6 ppg? You mean his worst finals performance alone would still have him ranked 24th all-time on a career list? Ahead of guys like Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, etc.?

StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 12:58 PM
Depends but I see no reason to say Curry wasn't the reason for the victories.

Curry deserved Finals MVP in 2015, but Lebron was the best player in that series. Also, we don't know what happens if Love and Kyrie are healthy but I think the Cavs win in 2015. Warriors were much better in 2016 than 2015.

For 2016, I will give it to you that Curry was better than Durant that year and also outplayed him in the WCF. But that was the only year Curry was better than KD. Of course the Durant vs Curry argument is closer than Lebron vs Curry.

StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 01:02 PM
It would be amazing if we could have seen Curry and Prime Tim Duncan as teammates. The two most underrated, unheralded, low ego GOATs post-MJ.

Monta Ellis MVP
05-25-2020, 01:03 PM
22.6 ppg? You mean his worst finals performance alone would still have him ranked 24th all-time on a career list? Ahead of guys like Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, etc.?

It looks like you are right. Here is the top scorers in Final’s history. https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_per_g_career_finals.html . It looks like Curry is 10th All Time and only has 1.5 less points than LeBron. I always would hear how Curry isn’t good in the Finals but it seems to be a false narrative.

StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 01:05 PM
It looks like you are right. Here is the top scorers in Final’s history. https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/pts_per_g_career_finals.html . It looks like Curry is 10th All Time and only has 1.5 less points than LeBron. I always would hear how Curry isn’t good in the Finals but it seems to be a false narrative.

Dude have you not been watching the finals since 2015? If you did, you would know Curry has been a very good scorer in the finals.

Stephonit
05-25-2020, 01:12 PM
Curry deserved Finals MVP in 2015, but Lebron was the best player in that series. Also, we don't know what happens if Love and Kyrie are healthy but I think the Cavs win in 2015. Warriors were much better in 2016 than 2015.

For 2016, I will give it to you that Curry was better than Durant that year and also outplayed him in the WCF. But that was the only year Curry was better than KD. Of course the Durant vs Curry argument is closer than Lebron vs Curry.

Curry and Durant being on the same team should actually make things very easy to compare. With Curry in and Durant out the Warriors had something like an 80% win rate. With Durant in and Curry out they were only slightly above 50%. 2017 is Curry. Durant doesn't have much of an argument especially with his injury. Unsurprisingly that was the year the Warriors were thought to be at their most dominant. The reverse is true in 2018 with Curry's injury.

If the Curry-Durant argument is closer than Curry-LeBron it's because 1-0 is closer than 3-1.

StrongLurk
05-25-2020, 01:15 PM
Curry and Durant being on the same team should actually make things very easy to compare. With Curry in and Durant out the Warriors had something like an 80% win rate. With Durant in and Curry out they were only slightly above 50%. 2017 is Curry. Durant doesn't have much of an argument especially with his injury. Unsurprisingly that was the year the Warriors were thought to be at their most dominant. The reverse is true in 2018 with Curry's injury.

If the Curry-Durant argument is closer than Curry-LeBron it's because 1-0 is closer than 3-1.

To me, taking Curry over Durant is like taking Kobe over Shaq in the early 2000's. For the regular season and even early rounds of the playoffs, it can be close or even equal. But at the highest level in the finals, KD has proved to be a tier superior than Curry.

2ball
05-25-2020, 01:17 PM
3pt spamming catch and shoot shooters are not real players

tpols
05-25-2020, 01:26 PM
To me, taking Curry over Durant is like taking Kobe over Shaq in the early 2000's. For the regular season and even early rounds of the playoffs, it can be close or even equal. But at the highest level in the finals, KD has proved to be a tier superior than Curry.

cleveland clearly guarded the two differently... they were doubling curry, and leaving durant in single coverage way more often.

so that's not a strong argument at all.

The cavs were always terrified of klay or chef getting hot and blowing shit wide open.

3ball
05-25-2020, 01:29 PM
3pt spamming catch and shoot shooters are not real players

Precisely

Curry is a 3-point shooter, not a basketball player

He was only a 19 ppg player at 5 attempts and didn't reach good scoring levels until he was taking far more attempts.. put him in the 70"s and teams wouldn't let him shoot 24-foot two-pointers..

2ball
05-25-2020, 01:31 PM
cleveland clearly guarded the two differently... they were doubling curry, and leaving durant in single coverage way more often.

so that's not a strong argument at all.

The cavs were always terrified of klay or chef getting hot and blowing shit wide open.

Taking out Curry was always going to be easier than Durant. Durant has goat like scoring arsenal (3’s, midrange, fade-aways) on top of being 7ft tall. You can’t stop that. OTOH Curry is a 3pt spammer that lives off screens. Much easier to shut that down

tpols
05-25-2020, 01:35 PM
You can’t stop that.


sure you can. Double him. But they didnt do it because they know he's an in the flow scorer and not a guy who avalanches you.

When Curry goes off, everybody goes off. Durant gets buckets off action that doesnt promote everybody else.

Hell, Chef lit Durant up in the 2016 WCF's H2H before he team hopped.

2ball
05-25-2020, 01:36 PM
sure you can. Double him. But they didnt do it because they know he's an in the flow scorer and not a guy who avalanches you.

Hell, Chef lit Durant up in the 2016 WCF's H2H before he team hopped.
Durant straight up shit the bed mentally. That doesn’t negate the fact that he had all the tools

Bronbron23
05-25-2020, 02:08 PM
If you hate on Curry, then you are just exposing yourself as low IQ. This guy is the second best PG after Magic, yet he gets no respect. Curry's playoff and Finals numbers are Kobe-esque, but no one wants to admit that.

I don't understand how people try to diss Curry because he's not on Peak KD and Lebron's level? There are only maybe 10 guys total that can compete with Peak KD and Lebron...so how are people criticizing Curry and acting like he isn't an all-time great himself just because he is a tier below them?

im not a big fan of curry but i pretty much agree with what your saying. Not sure kobe us a good comparison though. Kobe was elite on the other half of the ball and curry is pretty bad.

Kobe also played in a era wherw it was harder to score. Some of the rule changes thats been made after kobe were tailored to small shooting gaurds like steph

Stanley Kobrick
05-25-2020, 02:39 PM
Precisely

Curry is a 3-point shooter, not a basketball player

He was only a 19 ppg player at 5 attempts and didn't reach good scoring levels until he was taking far more attempts.. put him in the 70"s and teams wouldn't let him shoot 24-foot two-pointers..
i agree with you 3ball, stephen curry has no iconic playoff moments

Rico2016
05-25-2020, 03:14 PM
22.6 ppg? You mean his worst finals performance alone would still have him ranked 24th all-time on a career list? Ahead of guys like Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, etc.?

He was not injured. That's the point I am making. Curry is a phenomenal player all bashing and jokes aside. The man accomplished a 30-point 50/40/90 season for 73 wins. That's ELITE impact. He then carried that momentum into the playoffs to the tune of 29/6/6 46/40/90 against primed KD and Westbrook. I don't think any person was capable of stopping the 2016 Warriors that year, accept for LeHulk, and we all saw what he had to do to dethrone Curry. Rip off the greatest 3 game stretch in NBA Finals history, greatest single game in NBA Finals history, and lead all in all. His last 3 games he averaged:

36-12-10 on 51% with 3 blocks and 3 steals per game...WTF? 36-12-10-3-3 on 51% That's literally what it took to beat the 2016 Warriors. Never been done before. Never will be done again.

SouBeachTalents
05-25-2020, 04:57 PM
Curry only gets underrated in the fact people really believe he wasn't capable of leading the Warriors to a title after 2016, even when he came within literally 1-2 plays of winning b2b titles. I know the rangz crowd will disagree, but Durant joining them team really hindered Curry's chances of moving up the all time list. Those titles minus KD would've held significantly more weight

Bronbron23
05-25-2020, 06:14 PM
Curry only gets underrated in the fact people really believe he wasn't capable of leading the Warriors to a title after 2016, even when he came within literally 1-2 plays of winning b2b titles. I know the rangz crowd will disagree, but Durant joining them team really hindered Curry's chances of moving up the all time list. Those titles minus KD would've held significantly more weight

He was capable it just wasn't likely. The cavs and bron were just better. They would of won in 15 and won in 16. Curry's owner and or General manager went and got the second best player in the league for a reason.

Axe
05-25-2020, 10:07 PM
Curry must be very lucky to have a rookie coach in steve kerr six years ago, someone who turned out to be exceptional in making the warriors a potential dynasty.

Otherwise...

light
05-25-2020, 10:46 PM
If you hate on Curry, then you are just exposing yourself as low IQ. This guy is the second best PG after Magic, yet he gets no respect. Curry's playoff and Finals numbers are Kobe-esque, but no one wants to admit that.

I don't understand how people try to diss Curry because he's not on Peak KD and Lebron's level? There are only maybe 10 guys total that can compete with Peak KD and Lebron...so how are people criticizing Curry and acting like he isn't an all-time great himself just because he is a tier below them?

Problem.

LeBron is a better PG than Steph.