View Full Version : Was Kaepernick right about about racial injustice in America?
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 03:08 AM
First Amaud Arbery, now Central Park Karen and George Floyd...
Makes me think back to Kaepernick and his stand (or lack thereof...)
Was he right about racial injustice in America -- systemic oppression, police brutality, etc...
This seems like a very domestic issue, specific to the historical, political and social context of USA..
What's the racial relations like on the streets? How's it like in your hood? Do people get along?
https://i.ibb.co/T8qC5KQ/woke.png
DoctorP
05-27-2020, 03:11 AM
i live in a black neighborhood. most hate the whites. some cant stand or even look at em. most are respectful and cool.
when they are together alone the shit talk starts coming out
slavery was a bitch
:pimp:
GimmeThat
05-27-2020, 03:16 AM
no, Americans were wrong about reforms, and they manipulated others in the process.
DoctorP
05-27-2020, 03:16 AM
many should try moving to africa. they have so much hate for america.
try any other country... but they are too broke or dumb to do it usually
:pimp:
DoctorP
05-27-2020, 03:17 AM
i wish em the best.
i think black people are fun people with expressive genius ie. they are genius @ expressing themselves
:pimp:
Lakers Legend#32
05-27-2020, 03:31 AM
Kap continues to be proven right.
That's why white Murica feels the need to shut him down.
FultzNationRISE
05-27-2020, 03:32 AM
I got a better question, OP.
When are you gonna bless us with another mean side angle??
HylianNightmare
05-27-2020, 05:41 AM
Yes
ROCSteady
05-27-2020, 08:34 AM
Colin Kaepernick possesses the intellectual fortitude and depth of a college sophomore who recently declared a major.
His verisimilitude and the veneer of being a civil rights leader is comedy when I see his supporters on Twitter and whatnot
Shogon
05-27-2020, 09:07 AM
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Hell No. OP is a gimmick troll account. Mental illness is rampant on ISH.
LeBron James & Colin K are opportunists trying to further their own personal interests. They are literal scumbags of the highest order. They are bad people. Absolute trash human beings.
Shogon
05-27-2020, 09:10 AM
Kap continues to be proven right.
That's why white Murica feels the need to shut him down.
You've got to be a paid shill, right? There's no way that you're a real person representing your real world views... I mean obviously there is, I just don't want to accept the fact that someone is that level of stupid.
Shogon
05-27-2020, 09:14 AM
No shit.
Brain dead social justice warrior now present.
sd3035
05-27-2020, 09:41 AM
The media latches on to these events because they know sub 80 IQ people will become outraged causing their stories spread like wildfire
ROCSteady
05-27-2020, 09:42 AM
Side note, LeBron is so cringe when he posts about social justice
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 10:51 AM
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Hell No. OP is a gimmick troll account. Mental illness is rampant on ISH.
LeBron James & Colin K are opportunists trying to further their own personal interests. They are literal scumbags of the highest order. They are bad people. Absolute trash human beings.
Wrong.
I'm going to "boss up" on you and pull out the stats.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/images/use_of_force_2015.png
Shogon
05-27-2020, 11:02 AM
Wrong.
I'm going to "boss up" on you and pull out the stats.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/images/use_of_force_2015.png
Ok, gimmick.
https://i.ibb.co/ySMcZK8/OMwAaWW.jpg
Shogon
05-27-2020, 11:04 AM
BTW, I like this guy on YouTube... he generally gets it spot on. He tells the truth and uses his brain, imagine that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUKZfwWwa_Q
~primetime~
05-27-2020, 11:05 AM
This topic is not black and white (no pun intended) ...it is very complex and grey all over
obviously racist cops exist...how prevalent is impossible to know
and yeah, blacks commit more crimes on average, and that in itself is a super complex topic
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 11:15 AM
Ok, gimmick.
https://i.ibb.co/ySMcZK8/OMwAaWW.jpg
Oof, got him.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/a7b9eca631101d2561401a61afa6e2df/tenor.gif
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 11:16 AM
I'm not sure I agree with those "stats."
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 11:22 AM
This topic is not black and white (no pun intended) ...it is very complex and grey all over
obviously racist cops exist...how prevalent is impossible to know
and yeah, blacks commit more crimes on average, and that in itself is a super complex topic
Truthfully, this is easy to answer. Back in the 50's and 60's, cops would take water hoses to Blacks to get them off the street. They'd get beaten and arrested if they sat or gathered in White-only areas.
We have a Black dying at the hands of a cop unjustly at least once a year (if that), and all of a sudden we are the most racist nation on Earth and cops are singling out Blacks for no reason. It's laughable.
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:26 AM
I'm not sure I agree with those "stats." There's no agreeing or disagreeing with those stats. You either admit that the numbers are real or not. If you think the latter, do you have other stats that don't come from the Department of Justice or the FBI?
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 11:29 AM
There's no agreeing or disagreeing with those stats. You either admit that the numbers are real or not. If you think the latter, do you have other stats that don't come from the Department of Justice or the FBI?
Imagine the battle they're having within trying to process actual facts versus what they read on Twitter from the SJW Nazi's.
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 11:30 AM
Stats are just numbers.
What exactly do they mean?
That's what's important.
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:34 AM
Stats are just numbers.
What exactly do they mean?
That's what's important. What do you think they mean? :confusedshrug:
highwhey
05-27-2020, 11:35 AM
Truthfully, this is easy to answer. Back in the 50's and 60's, cops would take water hoses to Blacks to get them off the street. They'd get beaten and arrested if they sat or gathered in White-only areas.
We have a Black dying at the hands of a cop unjustly at least once a year (if that), and all of a sudden we are the most racist nation on Earth and cops are singling out Blacks for no reason. It's laughable.
It's no secrete police harass black people more than they do others. even if you want to argue that blacks commit more crimes so they should be targeted more often, you can't ignore that plenty of white people were smoking weed before it was legalized across many states and they hardly ever got harassed or thrown in jail...yet TONS of black people got harassed and thrown in prison for weed charges.
from PBS:
But even if there aren’t hard statistics, the problem of racial bias among police isn’t new. In fact, it’s been a concern of the FBI for at least a decade. Exactly 10 years ago this week, the FBI warned of the potential consequences — including bias — of white supremacist groups infiltrating local and state law enforcement, indicating it was a significant threat to national security.
so yeah, black people aren't getting hosed down in the streets, but that hardly means there are no issues.
~primetime~
05-27-2020, 11:37 AM
What do you think they mean? :confusedshrug:
those stats certainly don't mean that racial injustice doesn't exist in the US...the thread topic
when a cop kills a black man is he supposed to pull those stats out and show everyone?
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:43 AM
those stats certainly don't mean that racial injustice doesn't exist in the US...the thread topic
when a cop kills a black man is he supposed to pull those stats out and show everyone? I'm responding to a poster that says that blacks self report more police brutality against them.
Those stats show that black men are disproportionately involved in crimes and specifically violent crimes. Therefore the use of force against them is more likely to occur; same with increased policing of their neighborhoods and profiling.
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:46 AM
It's no secrete police harass black people more than they do others. even if you want to argue that blacks commit more crimes so they should be targeted more often, you can't ignore that plenty of white people were smoking weed before it was legalized across many states and they hardly ever got harassed or thrown in jail...yet TONS of black people got harassed and thrown in prison for weed charges.
Whites commit less crime, therefore their neighborhoods aren't policed like black neighborhoods. They also don't smoke weed in their front yard for cops to catch them in the act.
hold this L
05-27-2020, 11:47 AM
Stats are just numbers.
What exactly do they mean?
That's what's important.
Even if they're not 1:1 to the spot, the difference is staggering.
The thing I don't like about Lebron is that he sounds like a 1st year liberal white guy who wants to major in something like social issues. There's no nuance to anything he says, just basic black and white comprehension, there is no gray area. As for Colin..
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 11:48 AM
I'm responding to a poster that says that blacks self report more police brutality against them.
Those stats show that black men are disproportionately involved in crimes and specifically violent crimes. Therefore the use of force against them is more likely to occur; same with increased policing of their neighborhoods and profiling.
Strawman fallacy.
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:51 AM
Strawman fallacy.Wasn't it your point when you posted your image? That blacks self report more violence in their interactions with the police? Unless you have no idea what a straw man fallacy is lol
Why don't you articulate your thoughts then? I've asked you a question and you ignored it.
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 11:51 AM
It's no secrete police harass black people more than they do others. even if you want to argue that blacks commit more crimes so they should be targeted more often, you can't ignore that plenty of white people were smoking weed before it was legalized across many states and they hardly ever got harassed or thrown in jail...yet TONS of black people got harassed and thrown in prison for weed charges.
from PBS:
so yeah, black people aren't getting hosed down in the streets, but that hardly means there are no issues.
Honestly man, Blacks carry themselves completely different than Whites, Hispanics, and Asians do. So profiling exists because it almost has to. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but i've seen first hand the different demeanor between the races. And if this has to do with the economic disparity, well, that's another issue for another time.
Yes, there are far more Black criminals than any other race, but this shouldn't mean that cops should be required to police them the same or less than how they police Whites or Hispanics for fear of reprisals.
highwhey
05-27-2020, 11:52 AM
Whites commit less crime, therefore their neighborhoods aren't policed like black neighborhoods. They also don't smoke weed in their front yard for cops to catch them in the act.
whites are less targeted. it's why no one with a brain takes the "blacks commit more crime" seriously. even your pal patrickchewing just admitted that the authorities have been rampantly racists in the past.
it's the like the "did the egg or the chicken come first" tale.
well, in this case, police/goverment/authority were extremely racists since they began buying black people as slaves and have been full throttle on the racism gas pedal ever since. so in this case, they were the ones to target blacks exclusively and make life more difficult by enforcing bs laws that they seldom enforced for white people. tons of white people have been illegally been smoking pot and visibly doing so. it's just up to the police to ignore that and go after blacks. the FBI warned ahout this anyhow.
Shogon
05-27-2020, 11:53 AM
those stats certainly don't mean that racial injustice doesn't exist in the US...the thread topic
when a cop kills a black man is he supposed to pull those stats out and show everyone?
No, it does not show that racial injustice doesn't exist. That's correct.
However, it does provide some context into understanding why police officers might act the way they do... because per capita blacks commit FAR more crimes and FAR more violence and it's not even remotely close. We can argue about the reasons for that all day long but for the purposes of that conversation that doesn't matter... the facts are the facts and blacks conduct themselves far more violently and in non upstanding ways than whites per capita.
I've been saying this for years... police are human beings. They are going to develop biases naturally over time even if they were goody two shoes the moment they took the job. If you are extremely disproportionately being called on to respond to problems in the black community, you are going to develop cognitive biases. That's human nature.
The real solution is to get a lot more black cops so the racist narrative can go away.
Where are all the black cops? We need more black cops so that the idiots in this thread and elsewhere can shut the **** up.
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 11:54 AM
whites are less targeted. it's why no one with a brain takes the "blacks commit more crime" seriously. even your pal patrickchewing just admitted that the authorities have been rampantly racists in the past.
it's the like the "did the egg or the chicken come first" tale.
well, in this case, police/goverment/authority were extremely racists since they began buying black people as slaves and have been full throttle on the racism gas pedal ever since. so in this case, they were the ones to target blacks exclusively and make life more difficult by enforcing bs laws that they seldom enforced for white people. tons of white people have been illegally been smoking pot and visibly doing so. it's just up to the police to ignore that and go after blacks. the FBI warned ahout this anyhow.
Yes, in the past.
But what are you trying to say with the rest of your post? That it's because Blacks used to be slaves in the past is the reason they act the way they do now??
highwhey
05-27-2020, 11:56 AM
Honestly man, Blacks carry themselves completely different than Whites, Hispanics, and Asians do. So profiling exists because it almost has to. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but i've seen first hand the different demeanor between the races. And if this has to do with the economic disparity, well, that's another issue for another time.
Yes, there are far more Black criminals than any other race, but this shouldn't mean that cops should be required to police them the same or less than how they police Whites or Hispanics for fear of reprisals.
white people and black people are the biggest potheads i know. just saying...only one of them gets harassed often for it, even before legalization in many states.
it's actually a legitimate issue that a cop can pull you over and "claim" to smell weed and arrest you for DWI despite not having any drugs on you or being high. in AZ they have "drug recognition trained officers" that can arrest you if you fail one of their sobriety tests, none of which include a blood test.
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 11:56 AM
Wasn't it your point when you posted your image? That blacks self report more violence in their interactions with the police? Unless you have no idea what a straw man fallacy is lol
Why don't you articulate your thoughts then? I've asked you a question and you ignored it.
I didn't say black self-report more police brutality against them -- the statistics did.
You're strawmannin' me bro.
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:58 AM
whites are less targeted. it's why no one with a brain takes the "blacks commit more crime" seriously. even your pal patrickchewing just admitted that the authorities have been rampantly racists in the past. So whites are less targeted. Therefore, are you implying that there are a ton of crimes committed by whites that nobody reports and that there are a ton of crimes that don't exists but blacks are arrested for them? :oldlol:
Should we take a look at predominantly white cities vs black cities?
it's the like the "did the egg or the chicken come first" tale. Only morons don't know it's the egg first. Should I explain it to you?
well, in this case, police/goverment/authority were extremely racists since they began buying black people as slaves and have been full throttle on the racism gas pedal ever since. so in this case, they were the ones to target blacks exclusively and make life more difficult by enforcing bs laws that they seldom enforced for white people. tons of white people have been illegally been smoking pot and visibly doing so. it's just up to the police to ignore that and go after blacks. the FBI warned ahout this anyhow.Yet you have nothing to support that claim.
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 11:58 AM
Statistics can show correlation and causation based on probability. Nothing is 100%. For example I cannot guarentee you the sun will rise tomorrow, but it is HIGHLY probable.
Same with statistics. African americans are 5x more likely to commit a crime vs a white individual. This is a statistic that backs up a lot of stereotypes. Does this mean that cops will know this whenever they have an encounter? No idea, but they themself see not just the statistic but experience it first hand and rightfully protect themselves for the increase in probability of said crime.
Is it racist? I don't think so, it's statistics showing probability of crime.
Phong
05-27-2020, 11:58 AM
I didn't say black self-report more police brutality against them -- the statistics did.
You're strawmannin' me bro. So you post something random and not to support your own opinion? :oldlol:
highwhey
05-27-2020, 11:59 AM
Yes, in the past.
But what are you trying to say with the rest of your post? That it's because Blacks used to be slaves in the past is the reason they act the way they do now??
they are oppressed. that's something you can't deny. it's like they're in a circle of never ending misfortune. they are raised to fear police and the authorities and when confronted by authorities they are harassed quite often for shit that wouldn't matter if their skin color was lighter. so what do they do? they panic and act per their instinct. yet when this happens, you have fools like starface who say "well, it's not easy being a cop, they are human" etc. yet totally ignore that these suspects are human too and their fight or flight instincts will turn on when trying to be arrested or killed like in this recent case.
highwhey
05-27-2020, 12:01 PM
So whites are less targeted. Therefore, are you implying that there are a ton of crimes committed by whites that nobody reports and that there are a ton of crimes that don't exists but blacks are arrested for them? :oldlol:
Only Morons don't know it's the egg first. Should I explain it to you?
Yet you have nothing to support that claim.
i went to high school. biggest potheads was white and black people.
whites were just as obvious about it as black people...only they have privilege. not all of it comes down to racism, it could be and it is often socio-economic factors, i.e, white kid gets caught by campus security for smoking a blunt, gets off with a slap on the wrist bc his folks are rich or know the principal. whereas a black kid would get a more severe punishment bc he doesn't have those privileges.
Phong
05-27-2020, 12:03 PM
i went to high school. biggest potheads was white and black people.
whites were just as obvious about it as black people...only they have privilege. not all of it comes down to racism, it could be and it is often socio-economic factors, i.e, white kid gets caught by campus security for smoking a blunt, gets off with a slap on the wrist bc his folks are rich or know the principal. whereas a black kid would get a more severe punishment bc he doesn't have those privileges. Do you want to compare the level of crimes in predominantly white cities versus black cities?
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 12:03 PM
No, it does not show that racial injustice doesn't exist. That's correct.
However, it does provide some context into understanding why police officers might act the way they do... because per capita blacks commit FAR more crimes and FAR more violence and it's not even remotely close. We can argue about the reasons for that all day long but for the purposes of that conversation that doesn't matter... the facts are the facts and blacks conduct themselves far more violently and in non upstanding ways than whites per capita.
I've been saying this for years... police are human beings. They are going to develop biases naturally over time even if they were goody two shoes the moment they took the job. If you are extremely disproportionately being called on to respond to problems in the black community, you are going to develop cognitive biases. That's human nature.
The real solution is to get a lot more black cops so the racist narrative can go away.
Where are all the black cops? We need more black cops so that the idiots in this thread and elsewhere can shut the **** up.
So your solution is to mask the problem and pretend it doesn't exist?
Sounds bout' white.
Shogon
05-27-2020, 12:05 PM
So your solution is to mask the problem and pretend it doesn't exist?
Sounds bout' white.
Gimmick troll. Not addressing any of the points and going with the baiting. Sounds about right.
highwhey
05-27-2020, 12:07 PM
Do you want to compare the level of crimes in predominantly white cities versus black cities?
police will target blacks in both cities so...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Shogon
05-27-2020, 12:08 PM
whites are less targeted. it's why no one with a brain takes the "blacks commit more crime" seriously..
I love how you identify what is happening, correctly I might add, and then provide the reason as to why that is happening literally in the very next sentence two seconds later, and yet still don't understand. Holy ****ing dumbass.
Whites are less targeted, and there's a reason for that. And it's not "muh evil racist cops..."
If white officers have to respond to disproportionately black cases, they are going to develop biases. That is human nature. There is no changing it. You are living in a fantasy land where people don't develop biases. They do. People are people.
This problem will never go away. Ever.
We need more black cops and that is the only solution, lest the racist narrative never die.
Phong
05-27-2020, 12:09 PM
police will target blacks in both cities so...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not talking about who the police will arrest. I'm talking about the amount of crimes committed. Are you denying the fact that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes?
Phong
05-27-2020, 12:13 PM
We need more black cops and that is the only solution, lest the racist narrative never die. That won't change the narrative. Case in point, the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a felon in possession of an illegal gun.. they said he was an unarmed black man killed by white cops.. then it was revealed he was armed and shot by a black cop..
New slogan: the police is a racist institution and the black cop is an uncle Tom.
Shogon
05-27-2020, 12:14 PM
That won't change the narrative. Case in point, the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott, a felon in possession of an illegal gun.. they said he was an unarmed black man killed by white cops.. then it was revealed he was armed and shot by a black cop..
New slogan: the police is a racist institution and the black cop is an uncle Tom.
Mistakes and misinformation can happen especially in the beginning and that can often drown out reality but when the police force is overwhelmingly black in the black neighborhoods and the incidents continue, the narrative would end. I don't agree that it would shift to all the black officers being uncle toms... only by a loud minority of ignorants.
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 12:21 PM
white people and black people are the biggest potheads i know. just saying...only one of them gets harassed often for it, even before legalization in many states.
it's actually a legitimate issue that a cop can pull you over and "claim" to smell weed and arrest you for DWI despite not having any drugs on you or being high. in AZ they have "drug recognition trained officers" that can arrest you if you fail one of their sobriety tests, none of which include a blood test.
I'm no fan of cops believe it or not. I hate that authority they have over you. But regular citizens need to be smarter and not so stupid. Smoke pot at home. Stop driving around with it. The best way to avoid being harassed by the cops is to avoid being pulled over by the cops by your stupid actions.
EDIT: I drive around in a Hellcat with blacked out everything and carry a gun on me at all times. But you know what, I don't speed or drive like a lunatic and cause a scene to get pulled over. Even though I have a license to carry, always having a gun on you always compounds the problem.
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 12:37 PM
So your solution is to mask the problem and pretend it doesn't exist?
Sounds bout' white.
I didn't read a solution from you either
Rather, you ignored statistical facts because they didn't apply to your argument.
lol @ 'what are numbers anyways' such a weak or stupid troll
Patrick Chewing
05-27-2020, 12:49 PM
they are oppressed. that's something you can't deny. it's like they're in a circle of never ending misfortune. they are raised to fear police and the authorities and when confronted by authorities they are harassed quite often for shit that wouldn't matter if their skin color was lighter. so what do they do? they panic and act per their instinct. yet when this happens, you have fools like starface who say "well, it's not easy being a cop, they are human" etc. yet totally ignore that these suspects are human too and their fight or flight instincts will turn on when trying to be arrested or killed like in this recent case.
All you're doing here is making excuses for them. Are you sure Blacks want you to make excuses for them? Oppression of Blacks in America is a myth. If anything, they oppress themselves. And you said it yourself, they are taught right off the bat to fear or disrespect law enforcement. It's indoctrination. If you're taught from an early age that they are the enemy, then when you're a full-grown adult, your experience with them first hand isn't going to be the most pleasant.
Do you know that immigrants from Haiti and Somalia and other Black countries are more successful than American Blacks? Why is that? Go into any hospital or nursing home and if you see a Black person working there, odds are they are from the islands or somewhere else. Were they oppressed? What systematic racism or the mythical White privilege prevented them from graduating college and obtaining a career?
But when you walk around with your pants below your ass, smoke pot daily, and overall just look like a thug, do you think people are going to treat and think of you the same as someone well dressed and well spoken??
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 12:52 PM
I love how you identify what is happening, correctly I might add, and then provide the reason as to why that is happening literally in the very next sentence two seconds later, and yet still don't understand. Holy ****ing dumbass.
Whites are less targeted, and there's a reason for that. And it's not "muh evil racist cops..."
If white officers have to respond to disproportionately black cases, they are going to develop biases. That is human nature. There is no changing it. You are living in a fantasy land where people don't develop biases. They do. People are people.
This problem will never go away. Ever.
We need more black cops and that is the only solution, lest the racist narrative never die.
You gotta get through 4'' of skull before he'll understand. Honestly, write it off as a lost cause.
Im Still Ballin
05-27-2020, 12:55 PM
I didn't read a solution from you either
Rather, you ignored statistical facts because they didn't apply to your argument.
lol @ 'what are numbers anyways' such a weak or stupid troll
"Black and White" logical fallacy.
Those "statistics" did not disprove any notion of racial bias in law enforcement. They suggested a link between African-Americans and crime.
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 01:03 PM
"Black and White" logical fallacy.
Those "statistics" did not disprove any notion of racial bias in law enforcement. They suggested a link between African-Americans and crime.
What does race have to do with it?
If it was the Chinese committing crimes 5x more than whites guess what? They'd be looked at more closely by officers as well.
You're still not doing what you're asking of others. Provide a solution
EDIT: And since you want to call out black and white fallacy, not logical fallacy because that would be an oxymoron no?
P. African Americans commit more crimes than whites per capita
P. African Americans are more likely to commit a crime than whites per capita
P. Police officers try to protect the laws and prevent crime
P. Police Officers try to protect the law and prevent crime by looking at those that are more likely to commit crimes closer
S. Police Officers look at African Americans, who are 5x more likely to commit a crime closer because they want to protect the law and prevent crime.
*P- premise S- statement
If you change the FACT that African Americans commit crimes 5x more likely, the whole statement falls apart. But facts are facts, regardless of your idiotic notion of 'what are numbers anyways'
Try learning something instead of spewing bullshit from your philosophy 101 course because i'm sure they've taught you how to at least develop a statement without any fallacies. Prove my statement above wrong.
brownmamba00
05-27-2020, 01:12 PM
If white officers have to respond to disproportionately black cases, they are going to develop biases. That is human nature. There is no changing it. You are living in a fantasy land where people don't develop biases. They do. People are people.
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That's ridiculous. Do you really think law enforcement should get a pass because they patrol through rough non-white neighbourhoods? Do you know the history of this country? You don't fight hate with hate.
Shogon
05-27-2020, 01:18 PM
That's ridiculous. Do you really think law enforcement should get a pass because they patrol through rough non-white neighbourhoods? Do you know the history of this country? You don't fight hate with hate.
No, they don't get a pass. They get held accountable for their actions.
The point that I'm making is that you aren't going to "fix" this issue. There is no fixing it. Human beings are human beings. There is no way for them not to develop cognitive biases because their daily experiences are going to reinforce those biases.
Given that is true, and it is... then you need more black cops. Because there will always be these incidents. There is NO FIXING IT unless you just want the police to just start turning a blind eye to everything.
More black cops might actually change the entire black community, to be honest. And the reason for that would be... maybe it would break the cycle of being raised to believe that all cops are out to get them and it would start to erode at the victim from birth mentality. Yes, I do think more black cops would go quite a long ways to helping the black community on multiple fronts.
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 01:19 PM
That's ridiculous. Do you really think law enforcement should get a pass because they patrol through rough non-white neighbourhoods? Do you know the history of this country? You don't fight hate with hate.
A pass for what? Knowing statistically that African Americans are more likely to hurt him or her than a white individual?
brownmamba00
05-27-2020, 01:37 PM
No, they don't get a pass. They get held accountable for their actions.
The point that I'm making is that you aren't going to "fix" this issue. There is no fixing it. Human beings are human beings. There is no way for them not to develop cognitive biases because their daily experiences are going to reinforce those biases.
Given that is true, and it is... then you need black cops. Because there will always be these incidents. There is NO FIXING IT unless you just want the police to just start turning a blind eye to everything.
How about cleaning up the department and getting rid of dirty cops. White or black. Look at how old that cop is. Do you think this was the first time he stepped on someone's neck like that?
I once got pulled over because I was talking on the phone in traffic. When I asked him to hurry up and give me the ticket he got agressive with me. I got cuffed and got thrown in the police car. When I told him he should go **** himself he lifted my arm in cuffs almost ripped my shoulder out of its socket. Just because of a ****ing ticket. Cop wasn't even white.
DoctorP
05-27-2020, 02:12 PM
nice nike-related push by branX to sell Colin :lol
#nikemasters
#china
Shogon
05-27-2020, 02:31 PM
How about cleaning up the department and getting rid of dirty cops. White or black. Look at how old that cop is. Do you think this was the first time he stepped on someone's neck like that?
I once got pulled over because I was talking on the phone in traffic. When I asked him to hurry up and give me the ticket he got agressive with me. I got cuffed and got thrown in the police car. When I told him he should go **** himself he lifted my arm in cuffs almost ripped my shoulder out of its socket. Just because of a ****ing ticket. Cop wasn't even white.
I like how you completely ignored literally everything I said. Thanks for that. In kind, I will now do the same.
FultzNationRISE
05-27-2020, 02:53 PM
How about cleaning up the department and getting rid of dirty cops. White or black. Look at how old that cop is. Do you think this was the first time he stepped on someone's neck like that?
I once got pulled over because I was talking on the phone in traffic. When I asked him to hurry up and give me the ticket he got agressive with me. I got cuffed and got thrown in the police car. When I told him he should go **** himself he lifted my arm in cuffs almost ripped my shoulder out of its socket. Just because of a ****ing ticket. Cop wasn't even white.
Ive experienced this EXACT thing in my life on multiple occasions. The problem is you think it’s something only brown people experience.
This is how cops are TRAINED TO ACT, because the softer they appear, the bolder other people will get with them. Cops deal with the real world, not your fairytale SJW University idealogies. The real world isnt perfect and sometimes its a choice of the lesser or two evils.
A cop having a bad day and taking it out by writing you a slow ticket, is infinitely preferable to what a psychotic gang member would be doing to you right now if we didnt have cops around.
The bottom line is stay out of trouble and dont try to be a tough guy toward cops, and theres a 99.9% chance youll be fine.
But I have a feeling you need to flex and be a tough guy in those situations.
Thats on you.
ThatCoolKid
05-27-2020, 02:59 PM
Ive experienced this EXACT thing in my life on multiple occasions. The problem is you think it’s something only brown people experience.
This is how cops are TRAINED TO ACT, because the softer they appear, the bolder other people will get with them. Cops deal with the real world, not your fairytale SJW University idealogies. The real world isnt perfect and sometimes its a choice of the lesser or two evils.
A cop having a bad day and taking it out by writing you a slow ticket, is infinitely preferable to what a psychotic gang member would be doing to you right now if we didnt have cops around.
The bottom line is stay out of trouble and dont try to be a tough guy toward cops, and theres a 99.9% chance youll be fine.
But I have a feeling you need to flex and be a tough guy in those situations.
Thats on you.
Lol this kid is clueless.
highwhey
05-27-2020, 03:29 PM
A pass for what? Knowing statistically that African Americans are more likely to hurt him or her than a white individual?
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Hawker
05-27-2020, 03:41 PM
How about cleaning up the department and getting rid of dirty cops. White or black. Look at how old that cop is. Do you think this was the first time he stepped on someone's neck like that?
I once got pulled over because I was talking on the phone in traffic. When I asked him to hurry up and give me the ticket he got agressive with me. I got cuffed and got thrown in the police car. When I told him he should go **** himself he lifted my arm in cuffs almost ripped my shoulder out of its socket. Just because of a ****ing ticket. Cop wasn't even white.
:roll:
Dude - you took a risk and you lost. Take it on the chin bud and accept your ticket like a man. How about you don't act aggressive either?
Hawker
05-27-2020, 03:43 PM
Ive experienced this EXACT thing in my life on multiple occasions. The problem is you think it’s something only brown people experience.
This is how cops are TRAINED TO ACT, because the softer they appear, the bolder other people will get with them. Cops deal with the real world, not your fairytale SJW University idealogies. The real world isnt perfect and sometimes its a choice of the lesser or two evils.
A cop having a bad day and taking it out by writing you a slow ticket, is infinitely preferable to what a psychotic gang member would be doing to you right now if we didnt have cops around.
The bottom line is stay out of trouble and dont try to be a tough guy toward cops, and theres a 99.9% chance youll be fine.
But I have a feeling you need to flex and be a tough guy in those situations.
Thats on you.
So he could tell his boys and here on ISH how hard he is.
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 03:46 PM
:roll:
Dude - you took a risk and you lost. Take it on the chin bud and accept your ticket like a man. How about you don't act aggressive either?
Mamba mentality bro
brownmamba00
05-27-2020, 03:49 PM
Ive experienced this EXACT thing in my life on multiple occasions. The problem is you think it’s something only brown people experience.
This is how cops are TRAINED TO ACT, because the softer they appear, the bolder other people will get with them. Cops deal with the real world, not your fairytale SJW University idealogies. The real world isnt perfect and sometimes its a choice of the lesser or two evils.
A cop having a bad day and taking it out by writing you a slow ticket, is infinitely preferable to what a psychotic gang member would be doing to you right now if we didnt have cops around.
The bottom line is stay out of trouble and dont try to be a tough guy toward cops, and theres a 99.9% chance youll be fine.
But I have a feeling you need to flex and be a tough guy in those situations.
Thats on you.
They are trained to act like over sensitive teenage girls? I'm not selling dope i'm holding a damn phone next to my ear.
I have no problem with an honest police officer trying to make a living but whenever I see those fa9s on bikes with their big round aviator glasses acting like godfather mafia members making a show in front of a crowd cuffin people standing over them:facepalm
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 03:52 PM
They are trained to act like over sensitive teenage girls? I'm not selling dope i'm holding a damn phone next to my ear.
I have no problem with an honest police officer trying to make a living but whenever I see those fa9s on bikes with their big round aviator glasses acting like godfather mafia members making a show in front of a crowd cuffin people standing over them:facepalm
Over sensitive teenage girl?
You literally got caught using your phone behind the wheel and gave attitude to someone doing their job... the eventually escalated but I don't necessarily see you above a teenage girl.
brownmamba00
05-27-2020, 03:52 PM
:roll:
Dude - you took a risk and you lost. Take it on the chin bud and ]accept your ticket like a man[/B]. How about you don't act aggressive either?
I did
brownmamba00
05-27-2020, 03:57 PM
Over sensitive teenage girl?
You literally got caught using your phone behind the wheel and gave attitude to someone doing their job... the eventually escalated but I don't necessarily see you above a teenage girl.
You probably would've gave him a standing ovation. Even whisper in his ear to rip off my shoulder.
Because you know, 'statistically coloured ones are more likely to hurt him compared to a white guy'
Amirite
rawimpact
05-27-2020, 04:03 PM
You probably would've gave him a standing ovation. Even whisper in his ear to rip off my shoulder.
Because you know, 'statistically coloured [sic] ones are more likely to hurt him compared to a white guy'
Amirite
No one is talking about acting out violence but rather being better prepared for it.
But the quoted part, is it factually incorrect? What are you taking exception to?
The solution for this is to make cops go through rigorous background checks and years of training before they get to become police officers. Scandinavian countries do this. The entire criminal justice system needs reform. Stop punishing people for doing drugs. Legalize all drugs. Drug addicts need help not a jail cell. This would be a big start.
highwhey
05-27-2020, 06:45 PM
You probably would've gave him a standing ovation.
:oldlol:
:oldlol:
A lot of cop bootlickers on ISH.
DoctorP
05-28-2020, 05:13 PM
Kaepernick sucks cuz he sucks the cokk of the owners and takes their money and says all this bullshit... hes a white guilt surfer...nothing more
I hope he never plays a minute more in the NFL... and he wont
it doesnt suck that he was protesting... it sucks why he was protesting
entitled douche. america MADE YOU
I don't blame the blacks directly for feeling the way they do - they have every right to feel some kind of way, I know I would if I was black. However, blacks should keep in mind there are other injustices they don't stand for along with people, it's specifically entirely about black lives matter. While some do, it's not in the masses and the perception of them standing up for other beliefs is generally looked down on. For example deportation and children/families being separated and being held in detention. This is just one.
Again, I think they are being discriminated and there is racial injustice. It would be ignorant to think not a single white male in a position of power hasn't once taken advantage over another minority.
BigKobeFan
05-28-2020, 05:24 PM
The government should only hire cops of hispanic and asian decent. This way the joggers cant complain
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