Where do you rank Shaq's 01 playoff run?

[Rysio]

30/15/3 well?

[Horatio33]

Top five performance in the playoffs. He was unstoppable. The whole team was built around him on the block, double and triple teamed and he blew through everyone like a tornado.

[tpols]

Right below Kobe's.

[Jamal23]

Right below Kobe's.
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Kobe was the best Laker in 3/4 series in the playoffs that year

Shaq was only better in the finals and that Philly team was probably the weakest team the Lakers played in that playoff run

Kobe was the driving force on the 01 Lakers and he doesn't get enough credit for how great he was that year as too many people try to claim that Shaq carried Kobe for the entire 3-peat

[3ball]

Kobe was MVP of the real championship - the WCF vs Spurs..

It was a sweep, but it was still the real matchup of those playoffs

[tpols]

This

Kobe was the best Laker in 3/4 series in the playoffs that year

Shaq was only better in the finals and that Philly team was probably the weakest team the Lakers played in that playoff run

Kobe was the driving force on the 01 Lakers and he doesn't get enough credit for how great he was that year as too many people try to claim that Shaq carried Kobe for the entire 3-peat

yup...

ditto the nets the next year. (and i was a huge fan)

Shaq basically lucked out in the fact that all of LA's Finals opponents were weak as hell, and was able to dominate and win "FMVP".

When everybody that watched knows the west was the real championship bout.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Top five performance in the playoffs. He was unstoppable. The whole team was built around him on the block, double and triple teamed and he blew through everyone like a tornado.

Yup

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe was MVP of the real championship - the WCF vs Spurs..

It was a sweep, but it was still the real matchup of those playoffs

Lmao, actually 2001 was the one year the finals was indeed the real finals.

Not just were the Spurs all around ass, they were also injured.

No one said that was the real finals.

Sixers better roster, record, and closer series.

And what did Kobe do? Have a horrific opener and needed bailing out afterwards.

[Rysio]

Lmao, actually 2001 was the one year the finals was indeed the real finals.

Not just were the Spurs all around ass, they were also injured.

No one said that was the real finals.

Sixers better roster, record, and closer series.

And what did Kobe do? Have a horrific opener and needed bailing out afterwards.
Lol spurs would've beaten the sixers with ease so yes it was the finals.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

It was such an easy path for Lakers that year. Shaq's 2000 and 2002 runs were better because he had more challenging series and carried Kobe through his struggles.

[Doranku]

Lmao, actually 2001 was the one year the finals was indeed the real finals.

Not just were the Spurs all around ass, they were also injured.

No one said that was the real finals.

Sixers better roster, record, and closer series.

And what did Kobe do? Have a horrific opener and needed bailing out afterwards.

lmfao "all around ass" the Spurs were the #1 defensive team in the league, won 58 games and were 7-2 in the playoffs until they ran into the Lakers. Derek Anderson (the one who was injured) played 7 of those games and averaged 8 ppg on 26% shooting. What a huge loss. :rolleyes:

Spurs easily beat the 76ers that year. Spurs would've had HCA.. when they played in SA during the regular season, 76ers scored 76 points. No way Duncan loses to that 76er team with homecourt. He isn't LeBron. :lol

[tpols]

lmfao "all around ass" the Spurs were the #1 defensive team in the league, won 58 games and were 7-2 in the playoffs until they ran into the Lakers. Derek Anderson (the one who was injured) played 7 of those games and averaged 8 ppg on 26% shooting. What a huge loss. :rolleyes:

Spurs easily beat the 76ers that year. Spurs would've had HCA.. when they played in SA during the regular season, 76ers scored 76 points. No way Duncan loses to that 76er team with homecourt. He isn't LeBron. :lol

Comparing tim duncan to allen iverson is an affront to basketball lore and general history.

He would get KO'ed so hard, it wouldn't even hurt.

[ShawkFactory]

lmfao "all around ass" the Spurs were the #1 defensive team in the league, won 58 games and were 7-2 in the playoffs until they ran into the Lakers. Derek Anderson (the one who was injured) played 7 of those games and averaged 8 ppg on 26% shooting. What a huge loss. :rolleyes:

Spurs easily beat the 76ers that year. Spurs would've had HCA.. when they played in SA during the regular season, 76ers scored 76 points. No way Duncan loses to that 76er team with homecourt. He isn't LeBron. :lol

I think the Spurs probably take the 76ers but it’s close.

The lakers were a huge mismatch. Literally only 1 of the 4 games was even remotely close.

[Doranku]

I think the Spurs probably take the 76ers but it’s close.

The lakers were a huge mismatch. Literally only 1 of the 4 games was even remotely close.

Lakers were just shitting on everyone that year. Two top 10 greats playing at a top 10 level. Kobe and Shaq combined for 60/20/10 on 52% shooting against the Spurs.

What they did to the Kings in the 2nd round was even worse.. Shaq goes for 44/20 in the first two home games, then Kobe goes for 42/12 in the two road games. :oldlol: 3 of the 4 games in that series were close too... Shaq and Kobe were just too damn good.

[ArbitraryWater]

lmfao "all around ass" the Spurs were the #1 defensive team in the league, won 58 games and were 7-2 in the playoffs until they ran into the Lakers. Derek Anderson (the one who was injured) played 7 of those games and averaged 8 ppg on 26% shooting. What a huge loss. :rolleyes:

Spurs easily beat the 76ers that year. Spurs would've had HCA.. when they played in SA during the regular season, 76ers scored 76 points. No way Duncan loses to that 76er team with homecourt. He isn't LeBron. :lol

It was a weak league with no teams, they were ass.

Absolute ass.

And the little they had, was injured.

Derek Anderson, 15 ppg scorer and best perimeter defender was out.

Who do you look for on that team to take over a game or make a big impact? Bitch please. They sucked. Dont delude yourself.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Shaq slightly underperforming and Kobe overperforming against Spurs were expected though, given Spurs personnel and how they defend(protect the rim).

[ShawkFactory]

Lakers were just shitting on everyone that year. Two top 10 greats playing at a top 10 level. Kobe and Shaq combined for 60/20/10 on 52% shooting against the Spurs.

What they did to the Kings in the 2nd round was even worse.. Shaq goes for 44/20 in the first two home games, then Kobe goes for 42/12 in the two road games. :oldlol: 3 of the 4 games in that series were close too... Shaq and Kobe were just too damn good.

Like they go beyond ATG duos. When you put 2 top 10 guys on the same team playing at their best no other team has a chance.

I bet Duncan has 6 or 7 rings if they aren’t playing together.

[ArbitraryWater]

Shaq slightly underperforming and Kobe overperforming against Spurs were expected though, given Spurs personnel and how they defend(protect the rim).

its just funny how they were neck and neck throughout the playoffs, and Kobe has a chance to crown it off with a FMVP to really change the narrative on those years, and he fcks it.

[ELITEpower23]

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Kobe was the best Laker in 3/4 series in the playoffs that year

Shaq was only better in the finals and that Philly team was probably the weakest team the Lakers played in that playoff run

Kobe was the driving force on the 01 Lakers and he doesn't get enough credit for how great he was that year as too many people try to claim that Shaq carried Kobe for the entire 3-peat

B-ball breakdown of the 2011 playoff run, by the series

1st round vs Portland (3-0)
Shaq: 27-16-3 on 48%
Kobe: 25-4-8 on 48%

WCSF vs Kings (4-0)
Shaq: 33-17-2 on 47%
Kobe: 35-9-4 on 60%

WCF vs Spurs (4-0)
Shaq: 27-13-3 on 54%
Kobe: 33-7-7 on 51%

Finals vs 76ers (4-1)
Shaq: 33-16-5 on 57%
Kobe: 25-8-6 on 41%

TOTAL RUN (16-1)
Shaq: 30-15-3 on 56%
Kobe: 29-7-6 on 47%

[ELITEpower23]

Right below Kobe's.

By 'right below' do you mean, slightly above?

TOTAL RUN (16-1)
Shaq: 30-15-3 on 56%
Kobe: 29-7-6 on 47%

Kobe was great in 2001, easily his best years. Almost as if playing with a prime Shaq makes a difference.

[ArbitraryWater]

B-ball breakdown of the 2011 playoff run, by the series

1st round vs Portland (3-0)
Shaq: 27-16-3 on 48%
Kobe: 25-4-8 on 48%

WCSF vs Kings (4-0)
Shaq: 33-17-2 on 47%
Kobe: 35-9-4 on 60%

WCF vs Spurs (4-0)
Shaq: 27-13-3 on 54%
Kobe: 33-7-7 on 51%

Finals vs 76ers (4-1)
Shaq: 33-16-5 on 57%
Kobe: 25-8-6 on 41%

TOTAL RUN (16-1)
Shaq: 30-15-3 on 56%
Kobe: 29-7-6 on 47%

You mixed up the shooting percentages against the Kings

[ELITEpower23]

You mixed up the shooting percentages against the Kings

Yes you are right, my bad.

Kobe was on one in 2001

[Akeem34TheDream]

Like they go beyond ATG duos. When you put 2 top 10 guys on the same team playing at their best no other team has a chance.

I bet Duncan has 6 or 7 rings if they aren’t playing together.

Yeah and also I always like watching Duncan and Kawhi play together. Imagine them playing together in their peaks. I'd bet on them vs Shaq&Kobe.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Yeah and also I always like watching Duncan and Kawhi play together. Imagine them playing together in their peaks. I'd bet on them vs Shaq&Kobe.

Yes but I would have Kawhi as the clear cut 1st option scorer with Duncan in the Pau Gasol 2008-2010 type role. That duo under Phil Jackson I would take over any duo in NBA history.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

its just funny how they were neck and neck throughout the playoffs, and Kobe has a chance to crown it off with a FMVP to really change the narrative on those years, and he fcks it.

Phil Jackson came to Lakers for Shaq and to build the offense around him. It was Jackson's plan as far back as 1995 I would say. 2000 was a carry job with Kobe not quite full superstar yet, 2002 shaq had to do everything in the WCF Kings series. It was always about GOAT Shaq for the 3peat.

[ELITEpower23]

Phil Jackson came to Lakers for Shaq and to build the offense around him. It was Jackson's plan as far back as 1995 I would say. 2000 was a carry job with Kobe not quite full superstar yet, 2002 shaq had to do everything in the WCF Kings series. It was always about GOAT Shaq for the 3peat.

Imagine your #2 is top 12 all time player that also averages 29/7/6 on 48% for the whole playoffs with good defense. Shaq was very lucky.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Imagine your #2 is top 12 all time player that also averages 29/7/6 on 48% for the whole playoffs with good defense. Shaq was very lucky.

Kobe wasn't that in 2000, he averaged like 15 points in the finals.

Kobe was the lucky one to always have the best post player in the NBA Shaq or Gasol. Kobe was also a poor finals performer, so he was lucky to play with the arguable GOAT finals performer in Shaq. Both players were lucky and that's why they are last team to 3peat. I would say Kobe was the luckier one between the two.

[Duncan21formvp]

Yeah Kobe beat the crap out of us that year.

[Duncan21formvp]

Imagine your #2 is top 12 all time player that also averages 29/7/6 on 48% for the whole playoffs with good defense. Shaq was very lucky.

What if your #1 was better than you and then your #3 became your #2 and you became the #3?