What's the probability Trump gets re-elected after all this chaos?

[1987_Lakers]

:confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

He had it in the bag before all this. Now I’m not sure.

[DoctorP]

depends on how many people the anarchists pissed off

[MrFonzworth]

100%.

[highwhey]

depends, how many covid checks does he plan on sending?

[DoctorP]

depends, how many covid checks does he plan on sending?

gimme one more..

small business peeps may vote overwhelmingly for trump soon

[TheMan]

He had it in the bag before all this. Now IÂ’m not sure.

Even before this, his chances weren't as strong as previous POTUS with a good economy. He would've been the first POTUS to get reelected with an overall negative poll rating his first 4 years, never once got over 50% support in aggregate of polls for a month, first time ever that has happened.

Having said that, the Dems are divided between centrists and progressives so Trump's chances would've been over 50% chance to get reelected but right now, I think the odds are against him. In theory he should be kicking Biden's ass in the polls since Biden has been holed up in his basement while Trump should be benefitting from the rally around the flag/leader effect during this crisis that Trump is "leading" us through but instead Trump is losing in most battleground states and most surprising of all, he is bleeding support from old white voters, if Biden is competing in that voting bloc come the fall, that won't be good for Trump's chances.

[lilteapot]

100%.

this. no chance anyone else gets elected.

[RRR3]

What pisses me off is Trump would be absolutely toast if Bernie had been the nom. The Dems are pathetic.

[tpols]

He had it in the bag before all this. Now I’m not sure.

that was the whole point. Media is owned by democrat backers. they are whipping this shit up just in time for elections.

[DoctorP]

What pisses me off is Trump would be absolutely toast if Bernie had been the nom. The Dems are pathetic.

corrupt dems are led by wall street


its sad

i dont blame the anarchists, quite frankly

[LoneyROY7]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/547f7112419fa036bb53cc8973b4e2a0/tenor.gif?itemid=13863199

[coin24]

Does swapping puppets make you feel better?

[FultzNationRISE]

He’s literally running against a mummy.


Imagine the people who waxed indignant about a “reality star” president voting for a literal alzheimers patient :lol

[sd3035]

Pretty high

The libtards starting riots will backfire, especially since black people are getting mad at white libtards for causing lots of the protests to turn to riots

[tpols]

Does swapping puppets make you feel better?

sleepy joe is a true puppet.

the Don is the opposite... he doesnt listen to anybody lmao.

[DoctorP]

sleepy joe is a true puppet.

the Don is the opposite... he doesnt listen to anybody lmao.

the don is unapolegetically an industrialist, no ****s given

[sd3035]

Big bad bashin Donny T doesn't care about liberal nancy boys and fat dykes on twatter and farcebook being offended

Big Donny T does whatever the fuсk he wants

[LoneyROY7]

Gonna be a funny November around these parts.

[dude77]

Pretty high

The libtards starting riots will backfire, especially since black people are getting mad at white libtards for causing lots of the protests to turn to riots


this .. if you thought the whole virus and economy thing was plummeting his chances .. this is bringing it right back up .. dems can't get anything right :applause:

[Doomsday Dallas]

What's the probability Trump doesn't survive all this chaos?

[~primetime~]

What's the probability Trump doesn't survive all this chaos?

A Trump assassination is highly improbable...not like you can just sneak up on him in a theater Lincoln style. That would also secure a Republican win in 2020, President Pence.

So maybe alt right kills Trump to prevent a Biden win.

[~primetime~]

I can see Trump dying of cardiac arrest though... he's really fcking old and in a permanent state of stress.

And if he did die of heart failure I'm sure it would come with 73 gazillion conspiracy theories.

[DoctorP]

I can see Trump dying of cardiac arrest though... he's really fcking old and in a permanent state of stress.

And if he did die of heart failure I'm sure it would come with 73 gazillion conspiracy theories.

:lol

[BurningHammer]

I can see Trump dying of cardiac arrest though... he's really fcking old and in a permanent state of stress.

And if he did die of heart failure I'm sure it would come with 73 gazillion conspiracy theories.

1. Big Mac poisoning theory

[Doomsday Dallas]

A Trump assassination is highly improbable...not like you can just sneak up on him in a theater Lincoln style.

you don't think the Russians could get somebody to attend one of his rallies? He wouldn't be that hard to take out if the were a targeted by the right people.

I'm pretty sure there will be an attempt on his life before the election.

[~primetime~]

https://twitter.com/Anonymous_0__/status/1267137148932800512?s=19

What about Trump being pinned for the Epstein killing?

[n00bie]

Trump will be re-elected. Theres absolutely no one else to vote for.

[dreamshake]

Trump will be re-elected. Theres absolutely no one else to vote for.

No one's going to vote for a coward.

[n00bie]

No one's going to vote for a coward.

All politicans are cowards.

[FultzNationRISE]

https://twitter.com/Anonymous_0__/status/1267137148932800512?s=19

What about Trump being pinned for the Epstein killing?


How exactly would they pin that on Trump? Do you think he picked up a phone and personally called in a hit to whomever answered in the prison offices?

“Hello, this is President Donald Trump. Who am I speaking with? Oneida Correctional? That’s wonderful. Listen I need one of your prisoners whacked, but it’s gotta be a great and incredible whacking. It has to be absolutely incredible, I need your highest energy hitman.”

Pretty sure thered be even less of a trail left for something like that than the russian nothingburger you were chasing around.

[Pointguard]

What's the probability Trump doesn't survive all this chaos?

Yes. There is no way he would have signed up for this. And he never had experience at it, much less long term crisis management, and he doesn't like listening to people. He doesn't like the teleprompter but can't master the material on short notice. When he improvises its usually a tragedy. He likes to blame things on other people and that's at its wits end. Twitter now wants to have a standard for tweets. Everything is a giant headache. And the one thing he loved about the Presidency were his rallies which he can't do because of the covid. It wouldn't surprise me if Godzilla came to DC with some wrath. Just horrific luck for a newbie.

[bobopenguin]

more riot = more ppl believe to have guns to protect themselves, means they gonna go for trump.

cos ppl gonna wonder, "what if riot happens again, and these fking liberals gonna take away my guns!? fkkk that!"

[DoctorP]

more riot = more ppl believe to have guns to protect themselves, means they gonna go for trump.

cos ppl gonna wonder, "what if riot happens again, and these fking liberals gonna take away my guns!? fkkk that!"

yeah. especially small businesses

[Im Still Ballin]

Quite strong.

Trump knows his base -- he was never going to win the popular vote anyways.

The electoral college should give him the W.

[Draz]

What pisses me off is Trump would be absolutely toast if Bernie had been the nom. The Dems are pathetic.

I agree the DNC had Bernie living in their shadows but Bernie couldn't pull his heavy weight with the votes

[Thorpesaurous]

I really thought the Covid thing would long term help him, just because the left has presented no solutions to it, just complaints. And it's a shame because they could've presented genuine nationwide healthcare as an alternative aid to the solution of this problem. Healthcare that isn't tied to your employment, which is going to matter as unemployment skyrockets, but then they railroaded the guy for whom that was the platform. At the same time Trump actually moved to their left presenting full national coverage for all Covid related medical treatment, which has created it's own set of problems.

I just feel like as the data susses itself out on the virus, Trumps aggressiveness toward reopening will look smarter. They're going to find out way more people had it than they thought, and while it's obviously deadly, the mortality rate isn't as bad as was being reported. And so many people had it that the shutdown will look like it did very little. That combined with the Russian stuff slowly falling apart, I thought gave him a good base to make the left look hyper sensitive to him, which I believe they are.

The protests however I'm not sure he can come back from. It's not a area he's got a great look on anyway, and he hasn't come off all that well here. And it'll activate a certain part of the voting population that maybe wouldn't have come out anyway.

He can't run on the economy anymore, and I think the big issue there isn't necessarily that it won't have come back by then, but the proof, under unprecedented circumstances or not, just how delicate it is, so it'll be pretty hard to take too much credit or blame for it, even though I do think his chinese tax policies are the best thing he's done.

And what he's really got going for him is Biden is an awful candidate. Awful and getting worse, not saying anything, and the few times you do hear from him he's saying something ridiculous. And the democratic base may be so engaged at this point that they'll be hard pressed to vote for him, as in it's hard to be this upset, and then really vote for this guy.

[MMM]

I expect Trump to win and factors like incumbency along with a boring Democrat candidate to be enough for him to win. I'll be more interested if someone has a long term vision of how to fix the economy, how to address race relations, etc.

While I'm not a Trump supporter ill admit in '16, he was the only one that tapped into the frustrations that lingered from the 08 financial crisis and was talking about trade screwing over middle America.

However, in '20 he will have a tougher sell to put the country back together. While the Democrats ****ed up by not looking for a generational leader for the 20s

[Horatio33]

He will win because a lot of scared people think he is strong and will protect them, when all he cares about is power. If he got rid of all the immigrants, the next group of people he would be angry at would be ordinary Americans.

[ItsMillerTime]

If we're truly going to allow widespread mail-in voting, Trump is toast.

[Pointguard]

more riot = more ppl believe to have guns to protect themselves, means they gonna go for trump.

cos ppl gonna wonder, "what if riot happens again, and these fking liberals gonna take away my guns!? fkkk that!"

But this all happened under Trump. The majority of all people believe he teaches hate and the he set the tone when riots killed that white lady in Charlottesivle. People wanted to go crazy for Trayvon Martin but didn't.

[Pointguard]

He will win because a lot of scared people think he is strong and will protect them, when all he cares about is power. If he got rid of all the immigrants, the next group of people he would be angry at would be ordinary Americans.

Do you think that? Last night was Maga Night. And the press kept saying Bunker.

[Horatio33]

Do you think that? Last night was Maga Night. And the press kept saying Bunker.

The scared citizens are already saying he wasn't really hiding, he was laughing and eating "the finest big macs." You can't reason people out of a position they haven't been reasoned into.

[Pointguard]

I expect Trump to win and factors like incumbency along with a boring Democrat candidate to be enough for him to win. I'll be more interested if someone has a long term vision of how to fix the economy, how to address race relations, etc.

While I'm not a Trump supporter ill admit in '16, he was the only one that tapped into the frustrations that lingered from the 08 financial crisis and was talking about trade screwing over middle America. I thought Obama really handled the 08 financial crisis. Its one of his biggest assets??? No?


While the Democrats ****ed up by not looking for a generational leader for the 20s
I agree they didn't really even run a race.

[~primetime~]

What happens in the next few months will probably determine our next POTUS. Voting is still months away and A LOT can happen in that time. The V-Shape recovery was already underway before the rioting, unemployment could make a very sharp u-turn in coming months, and the summer heat could obliterate what remains of covid.

There is a chance that Trump comes out of this ridiculous mess looking like a miracle worker.

A lot of bad things could happen within the coming months too...like we've all just seen with the Floyd murder, shit can go sour in a snap...who knows what drama awaits us

[Pointguard]

The scared citizens are already saying he wasn't really hiding, he was laughing and eating "the finest big macs." You can't reason people out of a position they haven't been reasoned into.

Images are what caused the riot. People notice absence more than anything. Was he eating that Big mac for two days?

[Doomsday Dallas]

A lot of bad things could happen within the coming months too...like we've all just seen with the Floyd murder, shit can go sour in a snap...who knows what drama awaits us

I've been advised by several high ranking conspiracy theorists to stay far away from Seattle, Washington.

something is suppose to go down in Seattle.

you heard it here first.

[PistolPete]

I've been advised by several high ranking conspiracy theorists to stay far away from Seattle, Washington.

something is suppose to go down in Seattle.

you heard it here first.

Tanks are rolling in. Blackhawks in the sky. Liberal ANTIFA strongholds are going down.

[Pointguard]

Tanks are rolling in. Blackhawks in the sky. Liberal ANTIFA strongholds are going down.

Did you know that there were so many of them all over the country. Totally shocked me.

[RRR3]

Tanks are rolling in. Blackhawks in the sky. Liberal ANTIFA strongholds are going down.
>liberal
>antifa

Pick one.

[Horatio33]

Images are what caused the riot. People notice absence more than anything. Was he eating that Big mac for two days?

When I say "scared citizens" I mean Trump supporters. Insecure and frightened people who need a strongman to make them feel safe. The only problem is Trump is a lot more insecure and frightened than his supporters. Hence his posturing and outbursts. And then he hides in a heavily protected bunker when real anger and aggression shows up.

Judging his weight, I think he's been eating bid macs for longer than two days.

[Horatio33]

When people are against Antifa, it means they are pro fascism.

[PistolPete]

>liberal
>antifa

Pick one.

ANTIFA is a branch of Radical Liberal ideology.

So yeah, sadly for you, you get lumped in with ANTIFA since your policies and divisive language towards government spawned these people.

[Pointguard]

ANTIFA is a branch of Radical Liberal ideology.

So yeah, sadly for you, you get lumped in with ANTIFA since your policies and divisive language towards government spawned these people.

Now I'm hearing the term Boogoloo and its used like its the Right Wing response to Antifa.

[ItsMillerTime]

ANTIFA is a branch of Radical Liberal ideology.

So yeah, sadly for you, you get lumped in with ANTIFA since your policies and divisive language towards government spawned these people.

You're a fvcking moron to the Nth degree.

PistolPete aka Fatrick Chewing is a Pro Facist Trump Dick Sucker. You'll be one of the first casualties in the upcoming civil war, friendo.

[ZenMaster]

When people are against Antifa, it means they are pro fascism.

Sounds like what someone from Antifa would say. I wonder just how simple things are inside your mind, that you yourself can believe in what you just wrote.

[PistolPete]

You're a fvcking moron to the Nth degree.

PistolPete aka Fatrick Chewing is a Pro Facist Trump Dick Sucker. You'll be one of the first casualties in the upcoming civil war, friendo.

You won't do a thing.

[ZenMaster]

You're a fvcking moron to the Nth degree.

PistolPete aka Fatrick Chewing is a Pro Facist Trump Dick Sucker. You'll be one of the first casualties in the upcoming civil war, friendo.

Also... "TRUMP IS DIVIDING THE COUNTRY".

[Horatio33]

Sounds like what someone from Antifa would say. I wonder just how simple things are inside your mind, that you yourself can believe in what you just wrote.

If you're not anti fascist, then what are you?

[Long Duck Dong]

When people are against Antifa, it means they are pro fascism.

I'm living in a bizzaro world. The right can live somewhat without police, we police ourselves to a degree. The left needs police to keep their chaos in order and as the authoritative enforcement arm for all the stupid laws they make up. But it's the left protesting the police. Nothing makes sense anymore :confusedshrug:

[BurningHammer]

Also... "TRUMP IS DIVIDING THE COUNTRY".

Which he is.

[PistolPete]

When people are against Antifa, it means they are pro fascism.

You clearly don't know what fascism is. But it's OK, you can be educated.

[PistolPete]

Which he is.

How exactly? By having the lowest number of unemployed Americans in the history of this country prior to Covid-19?

Please, explain your position. What has he specifically said or done that has divided this country? This would also imply that we were unified before. You think we were unified prior to Trump?

[ZenMaster]

Which he is.

If you're telling people that they must "pick a side" then you're doing it yourself.

See here in the thread, there are people being called facists, as well as the opinion that if you don't support Antifa, you support facism. It's laughable if it wasn't for you guys being serious about this.

[Long Duck Dong]

This is the new blueprint for the left. Riots, protests, violence, property destruction and arson when they don't get what they want. It will only escalate. We saw it to a smaller degree after the election and we are seeing it again now.

The DNC convention is going to be a total shitshow once again. They'll probably bring in the military to protect their precious and privileged elites inside.

[Horatio33]

You clearly don't know what fascism is. But it's OK, you can be educated.

If you aren't anti fascist, what are you?

[Horatio33]

The DNC convention is going to be a total shitshow once again. They'll probably bring in the military to protect their precious and privileged elites inside.

Like strongman Donny hiding in a bunker with his secret service agents, having his soiled diapers changed? :roll:

[Rocket]

No doubt Trump's reelection chances are likely greater than 100% now if they were not before.

[rufuspaul]

If we're truly going to allow widespread mail-in voting, Trump is toast.


Part of the reason he's so against mail-in voting. Although in Trump's defense the media constantly says that his tweeting about mail-in leading to voter fraud is "unsubstantiated." Do they not remember North Carolina's 9th district race 2 years ago?

[PistolPete]

If you aren't anti fascist, what are you?


Oh I am anti-Fascist. But in this case, ANTIFA are the actual Fascists.

[rufuspaul]

No doubt Trump's reelection chances are likely greater than 100% now if they were not before.

The pandemic has made it a toss up. If a vaccine comes out before the election (a big if) it could be a game changer. If unemployment gets worse and people start getting evicted/foreclosed left and right it could be disastrous for Trump. Voter turnout will be a big factor and with Biden being such a shitty candidate a lot of people are just gonna sit this one out.

[Rocket]

How exactly? By having the lowest number of unemployed Americans in the history of this country prior to Covid-19?

Please, explain your position. What has he specifically said or done that has divided this country? This would also imply that we were unified before. You think we were unified prior to Trump?
Obama was the most divisive President in history. He made everything rich vs poor, black vs. white, male vs female, etc.... He took every single opportunity to sew discord and promote division with the media sycophants eagerly pumping our propaganda to help him along. Trump has done nothing to promote division despite having an uphill battle during his entire Presidency fighting against a fake Russian collusion scheme cooked up by Obama and his cronies because they were scared shitless Trump would come in and find everything they had done wrong from spying on Trumps campaign and incoming administration to spying on journalist and other heads of state. Trump replaced the worst and most crooked President in the history of this great country.

[Horatio33]

Oh I am anti-Fascist. But in this case, ANTIFA are the actual Fascists.

Explain how ANTIFA are fascists.

[RRR3]

ANTIFA is a branch of Radical Liberal ideology.

So yeah, sadly for you, you get lumped in with ANTIFA since your policies and divisive language towards government spawned these people.
Liberals aren’t radical you idiot. My beliefs are not liberal and neither are antifa’s.

[PistolPete]

Explain how ANTIFA are fascists.

ANTIFA does not tolerate dissenters and a difference in thought or ideology. If you are not like them, you are the enemy. It is a destruction of the status-quo and of the ability to engage in free thought and ideas. While the textbook definition of Fascism speaks of a single leader controlling the economic, social, and cultural aspects of society, the belief in shutting down the opposition and using violence as a tool is definitely a Fascist tactic. The Nazi Party went door to door rounding up those that were different and killing dissenters.

[PistolPete]

Liberals aren’t radical you idiot. My beliefs are not liberal and neither are antifa’s.

Killing a baby after it's born as LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Governor Ralph Northam said isn't a radical stance? Tell me, do we practice infanticide on a daily basis?

Liberals who want to repeal the Second Amendment isn't a radical stance? Especially with anarchists pulling people out of their cars and murdering them.


I could go on and on, Edward.

[Rocket]

Killing a baby after it's born as LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Governor Ralph Northam said isn't a radical stance? Tell me, do we practice infanticide on a daily basis?

Liberals who want to repeal the Second Amendment isn't a radical stance? Especially with anarchists pulling people out of their cars and murdering them.


I could go on and on, Edward.

Most leftist have no issues with murdering babies.

[RRR3]

Obama was the most divisive President in history. He made everything rich vs poor, black vs. white, male vs female, etc.... He took every single opportunity to sew discord and promote division with the media sycophants eagerly pumping our propaganda to help him along. Trump has done nothing to promote division despite having an uphill battle during his entire Presidency fighting against a fake Russian collusion scheme cooked up by Obama and his cronies because they were scared shitless Trump would come in and find everything they had done wrong from spying on Trumps campaign and incoming administration to spying on journalist and other heads of state. Trump replaced the worst and most crooked President in the history of this great country.
Obama was awful but y’all criticize him for the dumbest reasons. You should be criticizing him bailing out the banks, not pushing hard for universal healthcare, his awful and hawkish foreign policy, bad environmental decisions like supporting pipelines and fracking, and his complete failure to address the failure of the American criminal justice system or income inequality. It’s hilarious you guys never criticize him for the bad shit he actually did do and instead focus on identify politics bullshit. Very liberal of you :oldlol:

[~primetime~]

Most leftist have no issues with murdering babies.

"AFTER" they are born?

lol, yeah that's absolutely false

[RRR3]

Killing a baby after it's born as LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Governor Ralph Northam said isn't a radical stance? Tell me, do we practice infanticide on a daily basis?

Liberals who want to repeal the Second Amendment isn't a radical stance? Especially with anarchists pulling people out of their cars and murdering them.


I could go on and on, Edward.
I’m pro second amendment :confusedshrug:

I don’t care what some dumb liberal governor said. He probably is a corrupt corporate shill who is no friend of mine.

[PistolPete]

Obama was awful but y’all criticize him for the dumbest reasons. You should be criticizing him bailing out the banks, not pushing hard for universal healthcare, his awful and hawkish foreign policy, bad environmental decisions like supporting pipelines and fracking, and his complete failure to address the failure of the American criminal justice system or income inequality. It’s hilarious you guys never criticize him for the bad shit he actually did do and instead focus on identify politics bullshit. Very liberal if you :oldlol:

Is it your mission to just whine and cry about everything? You could have easily agreed with Rocket, and then included your reasons too. But you're just projecting.

[PistolPete]

I’m pro second amendment :confusedshrug:

I don’t care what some dumb liberal governor said. He probably is a corrupt corporate shill who is no friend of mine.


Good for you. The fact still remains that those are radical stances. And there is a vast majority of Liberals who agree with that.


You see, Edward. You and I are not so very different after all. Well, except for the reflection in the mirror of course.

[RRR3]

Is it your mission to just whine and cry about everything? You could have easily agreed with Rocket, and then included your reasons too. But you're just projecting.
His reasons were dumb whiny identity politics bs. Mine were legitimate. Sounds to me like you guys would be perfectly ok with all the horrible things Obama did if he was a republican. So tribal.

[RRR3]

Good for you. The fact still remains that those are radical stances. And there is a vast majority of Liberals who agree with that.


You see, Edward. You and I are not so very different after all. Well, except for the reflection in the mirror of course.
I doubt you’ll find many antifa who are anti 2a.

Again I don’t care about the governor of Virginia. Go protest against him if you care so much.

[PistolPete]

His reasons were dumb whiny identity politics bs. Mine were legitimate. Sounds to me like you guys would be perfectly ok with all the horrible things Obama did if he was a republican. So tribal.

Identity politics is what's sweeping the political landscape though! Democrats can't go two seconds without injecting race into any argument they have against the President. So right now, this is what people are talking about because virtually every Democrat and every News Outlet which parrots what the Democrats say and do are talking about identity politics.

This is where wise folks like you and I can take a step back and see who the real enemy is. The Media. They fuel all the discord in this country.

[Rocket]

"AFTER" they are born?

lol, yeah that's absolutely false

Killing a baby is killing a baby whether in or out of the womb.

[~primetime~]

Killing a baby is killing a baby whether in or out of the womb.

no it isn't...in the early months there are literally no brain waves, no thoughts, no self awareness, no feeling of pain or anything at all...it's no more alive than sperm is, it isn't a 'human' yet


but not going to get into an abortion debate in here...waste of time

[RRR3]

Identity politics is what's sweeping the political landscape though! Democrats can't go two seconds without injecting race into any argument they have against the President. So right now, this is what people are talking about because virtually every Democrat and every News Outlet which parrots what the Democrats say and do are talking about identity politics.

This is where wise folks like you and I can take a step back and see who the real enemy is. The Media. They fuel all the discord in this country.
Yeah I’m aware. They do it to distract people from realizing they serve the same masters as the republicans. I don’t like CNN or MSNBC or the like. They helped screw Bernie by manufacturing consent.

[BigKobeFan]

The politicians played those dumbos like a fiddle.

[bladefd]

I can see Trump dying of cardiac arrest though... he's really fcking old and in a permanent state of stress.

And if he did die of heart failure I'm sure it would come with 73 gazillion conspiracy theories.

He better not. I want him to lose in November to Biden up front and center then publicly admit to losing.

[FultzNationRISE]

I expect Trump to win and factors like incumbency along with a boring Democrat candidate to be enough for him to win. I'll be more interested if someone has a long term vision of how to fix the economy, how to address race relations, etc.

While I'm not a Trump supporter ill admit in '16, he was the only one that tapped into the frustrations that lingered from the 08 financial crisis and was talking about trade screwing over middle America.

However, in '20 he will have a tougher sell to put the country back together. While the Democrats ****ed up by not looking for a generational leader for the 20s


This issue is, Presidents and politicians in general have limited ability to fix these things. Theres no magic wand, and unless you want a government literally deciding which industries employ how many people and which people and how long they work etc, itÂ’s up to the public themselves to get what they want. In a society this large and with 50 states there will inevitably be a need for some regulation, but IMO that is essentially to prevent too much conflict between states, businesses, consumers etc. as well as interacting with foreign countries. ItÂ’s more of a mediation role. The government cannot wave a wand and make a good economy. They cant pronounce a law that makes everyone prosper.

In America there is a huge chasm between what various cultures and individuals value, desire, prioritize, and are even capable of. An “equal” society will be the product of people with similar ability and values, because equality means the same. Imagine putting 5 people on a basketball court, one of them is Michael Jordan, the other is an Amish girl who never played basketball, one is a 50 year old insurance salesman who played some ball in high school, the other is a paraplegic with a mean jumper from his wheelchair and the other is Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

Now go ahead and expect them all to perform equally on the court.

ItÂ’s silly right?

Accepting communities with different values, different histories, different parental emphasis, and even different evolutions is not a recipe for sustained equality. If you want government stewards checking in on every home to make sure all kids study for equal time, go to bed at equal time etc... maybe we get closer.

But in a free society, melting pot? I dunno. You can redistribute everything now and then, but it will always shift back. Some folks who emphasize careers like law and finance will relate to each other, work together for mutual gain, lonby the government, while folks who emphasize reliance on government subsidy will always shift lower.

And the people at the top are also competing with each other, for pride. So if they can find a lil opportunity, maybe something a lil sketchy, to get that extra extension on their home or whatever... theyre gonna do it.

I mean theres a reason socialism is always part and parcel with a dictator. Equality doesnt happen naturally. It has to be forcibly coerced. And even then... it doesnt work. Corruption and inequality are still endemic, save for very homogenous communities.

We have to ask some tough questions in America and accept some honest answers. I dont think the public is willing to do that.

[PistolPete]

He better not. I want him to lose in November to Biden up front and center then publicly admit to losing.

I will start up a GoFundMe campaign to get you the medical and mental treatments you require. Americans helping Americans.

[Hawker]

Joe Biden just suggested to shoot a black person in the leg instead of the chest if they are unarmed or have a knife. Nice.

[FultzNationRISE]

This is the new blueprint for the left. Riots, protests, violence, property destruction and arson when they don't get what they want. It will only escalate. We saw it to a smaller degree after the election and we are seeing it again now.

The DNC convention is going to be a total shitshow once again. They'll probably bring in the military to protect their precious and privileged elites inside.


Feels like a Cuban revolution in many ways, where unrest will eventually lead to exile of the competent and capable, and while there will temporary inheritance of wealth by the lower classes... it will be squandered quickly and the economy will turn ugly for the long term.


Tis a shame. :confusedshrug:

[sd3035]

More minorities are starting to recognize they've been used and lied to by the "democratic" party all these years

Landslide victory for Big Donny T

[RRR3]

Joe Biden just suggested to shoot a black person in the leg instead of the chest if they are unarmed or have a knife. Nice.
:oldlol:

I almost think he wants to lose. Can you imagine the debates?

DT: Sleepy Joe! He’s very tired, folks, he needs a rocking chair. Sad. Low energy.

JB: Now look here, fat. Push up contest. Right now...and uh...you know...Obama and I are great friends and uh...vote for me if you’re black...

[PistolPete]

:oldlol:

I almost think he wants to lose. Can you imagine the debates?

DT: Sleepy Joe! He’s very tired, folks, he needs a rocking chair. Sad. Low energy.

JB: Now look here, fat. Push up contest. Right now...and uh...you know...Obama and I are great friends and uh...vote for me if you’re black...

:oldlol:

[Hawker]

:oldlol:

I almost think he wants to lose. Can you imagine the debates?

DT: Sleepy Joe! He’s very tired, folks, he needs a rocking chair. Sad. Low energy.

JB: Now look here, fat. Push up contest. Right now...and uh...you know...Obama and I are great friends and uh...vote for me if you’re black...

The thing is - he got a lot of the black vote which is how he beat Bernie. Sure, you can blame "the elites" for "misleading" them but at the end of the day they have to take responsibility for voting him in.

[RRR3]

The thing is - he got a lot of the black vote which is how he beat Bernie. Sure, you can blame "the elites" for "misleading" them but at the end of the day they have to take responsibility for voting him in.
He did do great with the older black generation for sure. IIRC black people under 40 voted for Bernie though. Biden generally does great with older voters, which is part of how he beat Bernie (besides DNC and media ****ery). Unfortunately for Biden, Trump does great with older voters too. So he loses that advantage. It’s true he will still have the edge in the black vote against Trump, but I think he won’t get the youth vote like he and the democratic establishment think he will. Like I said earlier, Biden doesn’t talk about change. That’s how Obama won. Sure Obama was a neoliberal ghoul and didn’t actually shake things up like he promised but his messaging was good. Trump is the same. He promised lots of change but didn’t deliver. The thing is, people don’t pay attention enough to realize Obama and Trump weren’t actually reformers. Sure both had some accomplishments but for the most part they were standard politicians for their respective parties. Biden refuses to even use messaging promising change. So what exactly are people supposed to be excited for? He’s basically running on “I’m not Trump”. That’s a losing strategy.

[TheMan]

No doubt Trump's reelection chances are likely greater than 100% now if they were not before.

Lol

:yaohappy:

[TheMan]

Obama was the most divisive President in history. He made everything rich vs poor, black vs. white, male vs female, etc.... He took every single opportunity to sew discord and promote division with the media sycophants eagerly pumping our propaganda to help him along. Trump has done nothing to promote division despite having an uphill battle during his entire Presidency fighting against a fake Russian collusion scheme cooked up by Obama and his cronies because they were scared shitless Trump would come in and find everything they had done wrong from spying on Trumps campaign and incoming administration to spying on journalist and other heads of state. Trump replaced the worst and most crooked President in the history of this great country.

ROFL!

Two comedic gold posts by the Rocketman :rockon:

[Draz]

Trump is losing to himself at this point.

He can't even address the nation, let alone do it in a non-bias way to bring peace and justice. He's been awfully quiet and when he does speak up, puts the nation in further danger. These businesses are going to vote for what happened to them.

[FultzNationRISE]

Trump is losing to himself at this point.

He can't even address the nation, let alone do it in a non-bias way to bring peace and justice. He's been awfully quiet and when he does speak up, puts the nation in further danger. These businesses are going to vote for what happened to them.

Bro, be real. Any time he’s tried to do that, his detractors literally just run automatically to the opposite end of anything he says.

The hate for Trump far, far, far supersedes any kind of hate or nefarious intentions Trump has in his own heart.

The people making him out to be Satan incarnate are the actual screwloose neurotic rejects in society, and theyre using him as an outlet for all their rage and inner torment.

At this point he has no reason to reach out to these people. They never have and never will give him a chance, because theyd rather confront a boogieman than face their own demons and inadequacy.

[Draz]

Bro, be real. Any time he’s tried to do that, his detractors literally just run automatically to the opposite end of anything he says.

The hate for Trump far, far, far supersedes any kind of hate or nefarious intentions Trump has in his own heart.

The people making him out to be Satan incarnate are the actual screwloose neurotic rejects in society, and theyre using him as an outlet for all their rage and inner torment.

At this point he has no reason to reach out to these people. They never have and never will give him a chance, because theyd rather confront a boogieman than face their own demons and inadequacy.

True. Anything he says will be misconstrued. I think he needs to address the looters and the violence people are projecting onto small businesses. Breaks my heart man. These are all some people have. I can care less about Rolex or Nike and Adidas in NY.

I have no issue with people peacefully protesting. 2 miles away from where I'm at one of the most ghetto places - Jamaica Ave - peacefully protested WITH the cops.

Where I'm from we don't hate the cops, they're actually decent human beings.

[FultzNationRISE]

True. Anything he says will be misconstrued. I think he needs to address the looters and the violence people are projecting onto small businesses. Breaks my heart man. These are all some people have. I can care less about Rolex or Nike and Adidas in NY.

I have no issue with people peacefully protesting. 2 miles away from where I'm at one of the most ghetto places - Jamaica Ave - peacefully protested WITH the cops.

Where I'm from we don't hate the cops, they're actually decent human beings.


As I mentioned to highwhey recently, Ill readily agree he leans TOO heavily on the trolling and inflammatory shit at times. Im glad that he will show some “realness” at times unlike every other political weasel, corporate puppet President we’ve had. But he needs to not be so predictable. If he wanted to go on an outright charm and unity offensive for a few months, he could do that and basically expose the media for not REALLY caring about cooperation and helping the public. The media wants to burn Trump at the stake because thats what drives ratings and thats what gives them more power. The Democratic party, the establishment media... theyre EVERYTHING they accuse Trump of being. They dont WANT unity, cooperation, class equality etc.

They use Trump as a foil to make it look like HE’S preventing that... when they are. It’s Machiavellian shit 101.

Trump could and should do a better job of exposing it. He exposes it almost inadvertently to some extent just by being President and being himself. But he could make that reality a lot clearer to people if he used more savvy in how to do it.

[tpols]

These businesses are going to vote for what happened to them.


yup... and that's why they'll be voting trump.

If it were up to him? the overreaction wouldnt have been as bad. We live in a time where ANYTHING can spark anarchy, due to mass media. Too many dummies about.

The only way he'd lose is with mail in voting which would be basically because of fraud. Impossible to trace in that manner.. you can literally "print" votes.

Either way, if you think sleepy joe is better for this nation we're already done. you, me, or tio would be a better president smh.

Biden is probably the worst candidate of all time.

Across all nations and time periods.

[Walk on Water]

yup... and that's why they'll be voting trump.

If it were up to him? the overreaction wouldnt have been as bad. We live in a time where ANYTHING can spark anarchy, due to mass media. Too many dummies about.

The only way he'd lose is with mail in voting which would be basically because of fraud. Impossible to trace in that manner.. you can literally "print" votes.

Either way, if you think sleepy joe is better for this nation we're already done. you, me, or tio would be a better president smh.

Biden is probably the worst candidate of all time.

Across all nations and time periods.


You do realize most people think Trump is like the biggest doofus ever right? He gets ripped night in and night out. When I read someone’s posts like yours I feel like we are all living in the twilight zone.

What happened to common sense? Ever see the movie Idiocracy? People like you should know better than to come up with wacky conspiracy theories.

[Walk on Water]

More minorities are starting to recognize they've been used and lied to by the "democratic" party all these years

Landslide victory for Big Donny T


Trump has done a great job with the 40 million unemployment Americans, 105,000 coronavirus deaths and daily riots.

He hasn’t done one good thing.

[Walk on Water]

How exactly? By having the lowest number of unemployed Americans in the history of this country prior to Covid-19?

Please, explain your position. What has he specifically said or done that has divided this country? This would also imply that we were unified before. You think we were unified prior to Trump?



Do not use covid 19 as an excuse. That’s on him. He’s unfit for running a country and now look at it crumble.

[Walk on Water]

This is the new blueprint for the left. Riots, protests, violence, property destruction and arson when they don't get what they want. It will only escalate. We saw it to a smaller degree after the election and we are seeing it again now.

The DNC convention is going to be a total shitshow once again. They'll probably bring in the military to protect their precious and privileged elites inside.


It all starts at the top and this country has no leadership.

[Walk on Water]

No doubt Trump's reelection chances are likely greater than 100% now if they were not before.

He’s not gonna win in a million years. He even lost the popular vote. People don’t like him and it’s his own fault.

[SATAN]

yup... and that's why they'll be voting trump.

If it were up to him? the overreaction wouldnt have been as bad. We live in a time where ANYTHING can spark anarchy, due to mass media. Too many dummies about.

The only way he'd lose is with mail in voting which would be basically because of fraud. Impossible to trace in that manner.. you can literally "print" votes.

Either way, if you think sleepy joe is better for this nation we're already done. you, me, or tio would be a better president smh.

Biden is probably the worst candidate of all time.

Across all nations and time periods.

You are such a delusional idiot. Absolute sheep.

[Axe]

He’s not gonna win in a million years. He even lost the popular vote. People don’t like him and it’s his own fault.
Lol at cp-ing four times

[dreamshake]

Walk on Water going hard.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Even to the MAGAts Trump is coming off as weak hiding in his bunker.

[DoctorP]

Trump believes hes in good shape. Time will tell.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267838101340196866

[Patrick Chewing]

Do not use covid 19 as an excuse. That’s on him. He’s unfit for running a country and now look at it crumble.

Answer the question **** face.

[dreamshake]

yup... and that's why they'll be voting trump.

If it were up to him? the overreaction wouldnt have been as bad. We live in a time where ANYTHING can spark anarchy, due to mass media. Too many dummies about.

The only way he'd lose is with mail in voting which would be basically because of fraud. Impossible to trace in that manner.. you can literally "print" votes.

Either way, if you think sleepy joe is better for this nation we're already done. you, me, or tio would be a better president smh.

Biden is probably the worst candidate of all time.

Across all nations and time periods.

The businessmen will be voting with their wallets. And their wallets do not want riots and protests like these to happen again. No way in hell Trump is getting a second term after what’s transpiring.

[sd3035]

I'll be voting Trump just to laugh at libtards for another 4 years

I've convinced a lot of people I know who didn't care about voting to do the same

[RRR3]

Higher than liberals want to admit and not as high as conservatives want to admit. That said, I still suspect he’ll win again but I give him less of a chance now than I did before Coronavirus and the murder of George Floyd and subsequent protests and riots.

[DoctorP]

People that are for Taiwan will automatically vote Trump. Dems are deep in Chinas agenda.

[~primetime~]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive/exclusive-most-americans-sympathize-with-protests-disapprove-of-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos-idUSKBN239347


NEW YORK (Reuters) - A majority of Americans sympathize with nationwide protests over the death of an unarmed black man in police custody and disapprove of President Donald Trump’s response to the unrest, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

The demonstrations, some of which have turned violent, began last week after a Minneapolis police officer was videotaped kneeling on the neck of George Floyd for nearly nine minutes, even after Floyd appeared to lose consciousness. The officer has been charged with murder.

The survey conducted on Monday and Tuesday found 64% of American adults were “sympathetic to people who are out protesting right now,” while 27% said they were not and 9% were unsure.

The poll underscored the political risks for Trump, who has adopted a hardline approach to the protests and threatened to deploy the U.S. military to quell violent dissent. The Republican president faces Democrat Joe Biden in November’s election.

More than 55% of Americans said they disapproved of Trump’s handling of the protests, including 40% who “strongly” disapproved, while just one-third said they approved - lower than his overall job approval of 39%, the poll showed.

A separate Reuters/Ipsos poll found that Biden’s lead over Trump among registered voters expanded to 10 percentage points - the biggest margin since the former vice president became his party’s presumptive nominee in early April.

Twice as many independent voters said they disapproved of Trump’s response to the unrest. Even among Republicans, only 67% said they approved of the way he had responded, significantly lower than the 82% who liked his overall job performance.

only poll I could find on this topic...

[TheMan]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-poll-exclusive/exclusive-most-americans-sympathize-with-protests-disapprove-of-trumps-response-reuters-ipsos-idUSKBN239347



only poll I could find on this topic...
Not surprising...but we aren't believing polls right now, that's the way it goes, good polls for Trump, we believe them, bad polls for Trump, fake news.

[Axe]

Not surprising...but we aren't believing polls right now, that's the way it goes, good polls for Trump, we believe them, bad polls for Trump, fake news.
Issa prank!