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TAZORAC
06-01-2020, 07:22 PM
If you were a coach and you had the choice of Prime Durant or Prime Bryant, what reason would you chose Bryant?

Personally I think Durant is a better player. He can guard every position, he's a better shot locker. On offense he's almost 7 feet tall but handles the ball like a guard and he shoots better then Bryant.

Run DLC
06-01-2020, 07:31 PM
KD is more efficient when it comes to scoring, but Kobe had a better all-around game. Kobe made “All-Defensive first team” a lot of times in his career. KD has 0. Kobe was a better playmaker and leader. The only thing KD has over him is efficiency.

TAZORAC
06-01-2020, 07:35 PM
KD is more efficient when it comes to scoring, but Kobe had a better all-around game. Kobe made “All-Defensive first team” a lot of times in his career. KD has 0. Kobe was a better playmaker and leader. The only thing KD has over him is efficiency.

Saying Kobe was a better leader is subjective. You wouldn't know. Durant should have been on a few all defensive teams. I agree Bryant is the better playmaker, but Durant being more efficient cancels that out.

Sheer Skill...Durant is a top 3 all time player.

Lion's pride
06-01-2020, 07:53 PM
If both were 19-20 years old etc.. and draft eligible, I would prefer KD.. Top 3 SF (Bird Lebron) over 2nd best 2 guard...

I think it is harder to find a great SF than it is a shooting guard.. Plus KD may be as good as scorer and any in history.. IMO..

3ball
06-01-2020, 07:59 PM
Because Kobe went back-to-back with Pau, while Durant lost his ass with Westbrook, Harden, and Ibaka

Axe
06-01-2020, 08:02 PM
If you want someone who tries to make shots that are more creative, then look no further.

Choose the black mamba.

G0ATbe
06-01-2020, 08:08 PM
Momba mentality

Phoenix
06-01-2020, 08:10 PM
I think it is harder to find a great SF than it is a shooting guard.. Plus KD may be as good as scorer and any in history.. IMO..

How so? Lots of great SFs throughout history.

3ball
06-01-2020, 08:15 PM
How so? Lots of great SFs throughout history.

This is true

And maybe that's why Kobe won more

Maybe the rarity of a great 2-guard makes it more valuable.. (btw total ball-dominators like harden are actually PG's)

Just a random thought.. it might not flesh out that way if i looked into it

But it does seem like there's more great sf's

Axe
06-01-2020, 08:16 PM
I think it is harder to find a great SF than it is a shooting guard.. Plus KD may be as good as scorer and any in history.. IMO..
Depends if you only started watching basketball recently

IllegalD
06-01-2020, 08:24 PM
If you were a coach and you had the choice of Prime Durant or Prime Bryant, what reason would you chose Bryant?

Personally I think Durant is a better player. He can guard every position, he's a better shot locker. On offense he's almost 7 feet tall but handles the ball like a guard and he shoots better then Bryant.


Because Kobe can win with just one other HOF teammate on the roster and doesn't have to jump on a 73-9 win team that already won the championship without him.

In fact, Kobe pulled an ANTI-Durant and made it his personal challenge to win without Shaq.

Bronbron23
06-01-2020, 08:25 PM
If you were a coach and you had the choice of Prime Durant or Prime Bryant, what reason would you chose Bryant?

Personally I think Durant is a better player. He can guard every position, he's a better shot locker. On offense he's almost 7 feet tall but handles the ball like a guard and he shoots better then Bryant. because hes a better winner. Some guys dont know how to win. Kd had to join a 73 win team to be able to win. Theres more to competition than stats and physical ability. Intelligence and heart also play a huge role. This is why kobe was better.

Run DLC
06-01-2020, 08:37 PM
KD’s height combined with his perimeter skills are what makes him a special player. If he was a few inches shorter, he would just be like, Camelo. Skilled enough, but not nearly as efficient.

Run DLC
06-01-2020, 08:42 PM
I’ll give KD that, he’s P4P one of the most fundamentally skilled players to ever played this game. If we’re talking about pure fundamentals, KD is greater than LeBron, etc. However, basketball should be judged by every facets and intangibles. Outside of pure scoring and overall shooting, there’s really not that much that stand out about KD’s overall game. He’s average or above average in just about every non-scoring categories.

StrongLurk
06-01-2020, 08:45 PM
Why do so many people struggle with the words choose/chose, and loose/lose?

warriorfan
06-01-2020, 08:49 PM
If they wanted a leader that can bring them back to back or 3 peat titles instead of a pouting cancer

tpols
06-01-2020, 08:49 PM
the truth is Durant runs an AAU style. he likes to dribble and iso up top just like westbrook and harden.

the 2012 thunder who went further than any thunder team were 30th in team assist rank. They were pure stand around iso.

:roll:

Kobe's teams played with ball movement and he was frequently the bailout man. He wasn't just iso dribbling for 15 seconds and jacking.

warriorfan
06-01-2020, 08:52 PM
the truth is Durant runs an AAU style. he likes to dribble and iso up top just like westbrook and harden.

the 2012 thunder who went further than any thunder team were 30th in team assist rank. They were pure stand around iso.

:roll:

Kobe's teams played with ball movement and he was frequently the bailout man. He wasn't just iso dribbling for 15 seconds and jacking.

It’s true he plays a simplistic game that can look unstoppable to the untrained eye. But yet his impact metrics have always not matched up to his box score numbers. He isn’t as dominant as can appear.

Run DLC
06-01-2020, 09:48 PM
the truth is Durant runs an AAU style. he likes to dribble and iso up top just like westbrook and harden.

the 2012 thunder who went further than any thunder team were 30th in team assist rank. They were pure stand around iso.

:roll:

Kobe's teams played with ball movement and he was frequently the bailout man. He wasn't just iso dribbling for 15 seconds and jacking.

This is exactly what’s going to happen with KD and Kyrie. Neither one of them is a team-oriented playmaker. They both HAVE to score in order to have any big impact.

iamgine
06-02-2020, 12:02 AM
If you were a coach and you had the choice of Prime Durant or Prime Bryant, what reason would you chose Bryant?

Personally I think Durant is a better player. He can guard every position, he's a better shot locker. On offense he's almost 7 feet tall but handles the ball like a guard and he shoots better then Bryant.
They're actually pretty comparable. On paper, Durant should be the better player. In reality, it's hard to tell, especially in the playoff.

One reason you'd want to coach Kobe is he works extremely hard and demand everyone to do the same. Makes your job easier if you're the type of coach who needs that. Durant seem like a chill dude who just go along. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

light
06-02-2020, 02:06 AM
Yeah this is a tough question. I cant think of any reason to pick Kobe.

Kobe also means a team wide increase in heartburn and headaches.

Your team psychologist will be working OT.

Kobe was a better defender but he was also an overrated defender. KD is an underrated defender.

I really like KD's size and his shooting. Like, yes, give me the 7 footer with guard skills who can shoot better. All day, right?

Kobe was 6'4. Cool in 1996. Not so cool in 2020.

Walk on Water
06-02-2020, 02:31 AM
If you were a coach and you had the choice of Prime Durant or Prime Bryant, what reason would you chose Bryant?

Personally I think Durant is a better player. He can guard every position, he's a better shot locker. On offense he's almost 7 feet tall but handles the ball like a guard and he shoots better then Bryant.

Kobe can guard all positions too. KD is taller but KD can’t guard centers effectively. Kobe has 12 all nba defensive teams. KD has none. So defense is not a good comparison.

Kobe is better at creating his own shot and making tougher shots. He might shoot you out of the games too, but I focus more on the highs. You miss every shot you don’t take.

Axe
06-02-2020, 02:32 AM
Yeah this is a tough question. I cant think of any reason to pick Kobe.

Kobe also means a team wide increase in heartburn and headaches.

Your team psychologist will be working OT.

Kobe was a better defender but he was also an overrated defender. KD is an underrated defender.

I really like KD's size and his shooting. Like, yes, give me the 7 footer with guard skills who can shoot better. All day, right?

Kobe was 6'4. Cool in 1996. Not so cool in 2020.
A part of the reason why we'd pick KD amongst the two is because he's also 2-1 against Bran in the finals.

But had the cavaliers met up with the lakers in the 2009 finals, I'm guessing kobe has a chance to win too because of his experience and his teammates.

Walk on Water
06-02-2020, 02:33 AM
Yeah this is a tough question. I cant think of any reason to pick Kobe.

Kobe also means a team wide increase in heartburn and headaches.

Your team psychologist will be working OT.

Kobe was a better defender but he was also an overrated defender. KD is an underrated defender.

I really like KD's size and his shooting. Like, yes, give me the 7 footer with guard skills who can shoot better. All day, right?

Kobe was 6'4. Cool in 1996. Not so cool in 2020.


Yes it’s true KD is almost 7 foot. But he doesn’t have the same guard skills and footwork of Kobe.

Dr Hawk
06-02-2020, 04:13 AM
If you want one of the greatest leader and player ever, you go with Kobe.

With Durant, you would "only" get one of the greatest scorers ever.

Doranku
06-02-2020, 06:25 AM
Well, Durant won 1 finals game with 2 MVPs. Kobe won 2 rings with Pau Gasol. There's levels to this, you know.

Durant had ample help for basically his entire career in OKC. Not a thing to show for it. Westbrook averaged 26/7/11/3 stls over the course of 18 playoff games in 2016. Durant still couldn't even make the finals with that kind of help because well, we all know how he choked away that 3-1 lead against GS. Because he isn't a leader. Even the hicks in OKC knew it, why can't you guys figure it out?:

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/873/176/c2aa91e6e25f06ffd1c66c204ae9605c_crop_north.jpg?h= 533&w=800&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top

Phoenix
06-02-2020, 06:29 AM
Well, Durant won 1 finals game with 2 MVPs. Kobe won 2 rings with Pau Gasol. There's levels to this, you know.

Durant had ample help for basically his entire career in OKC. Not a thing to show for it. Westbrook averaged 26/7/11/3 stls over the course of 18 playoff games in 2016. Durant still couldn't even make the finals with that kind of help because well, we all know how he choked away that 3-1 lead against GS. Because he isn't a leader. Even the hicks in OKC knew it, why can't you guys figure it out?:

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/873/176/c2aa91e6e25f06ffd1c66c204ae9605c_crop_north.jpg?h= 533&w=800&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top

I wonder if that article partly drove him to leave? He didn't feel appreciated at the end of the Warriors run either and we see how that ended up.

Soundwave
06-02-2020, 06:55 AM
If Kobe was on that OKC team that was up 3-1 against the Warriors, he would've broken their necks and finished the job. Plain and simple. Durant is a great player but he's weaker mentally.

Gimme two players who are about the same range in talent, but one is mentally tougher and I'll take the mentally tougher player 10/10 times.

Axe
06-02-2020, 07:09 AM
Problem is, kobe was already 37 years old during that time.

Needless to say, he's all washed up at that point.

Akeem34TheDream
06-02-2020, 07:22 AM
If Kobe was on that OKC team that was up 3-1 against the Warriors, he would've broken their necks and finished the job. Plain and simple. Durant is a great player but he's weaker mentally.

Gimme two players who are about the same range in talent, but one is mentally tougher and I'll take the mentally tougher player 10/10 times.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2006-nba-western-conference-first-round-lakers-vs-suns.html

tpols
06-02-2020, 08:19 AM
https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2006-nba-western-conference-first-round-lakers-vs-suns.html

you kinda just made his point.

In game 6 Kobe had 50, and scored the only buckets in OT. He was 5/7 for 12 points, his teammates didnt hit a single shot.

With the thunder cast they'd easily have won.

Jasper
06-02-2020, 08:20 PM
Kobe would post up.

KD at 7' has never done that.