98' Playoffs - MJ had 76 points in "clutch time" (last 5 within 5).. Now for lebron..

[3ball]

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2006 - 55 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2005-06&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2007 - 58 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2006-07&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2008 - 21 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2007-08&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2009 - 10 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2008-09&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2010 - 16 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2009-10&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2011 - 43 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2010-11&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals) (0 in Finals)
2012 - 46 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2011-12&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2013 - 37 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2012-13&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2014 - 24 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2015 - 40 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2016 - 18 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals) (kyrie 20)
2017 - 18 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
2018 - 47 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2017-18&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)

1997 - 55 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals) (Pippen 18.. Stockton 36)
1998 - 76 (https://stats.nba.com/players/clutch-traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=1996-97&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals) (Pippen 24.. Stockton 28)


So lebron played best in 06' and 07' when there was no expectations, and then 2018 when he had peak experience.. but he lost the so-called "carry-jobs" in 06' and 07', while MJ won bigger carry jobs

Btw, MJ had 30 clutch points in the 98' Finals and 8 for Pippen (behind Stockton, Russell and Longley)... And MJ had 23 clutch points in 1997 Finals while Pippen had 4 (behind Stockton, Hornacek, Morris and Kukoc)... ,

[2ball]

To add to this MJ had clutch offense AND clutch defense (goat 2-way player)

I remember the strip on Malone as much as the last shot.

[ELITEpower23]

All that and still numero dos

https://imgbbb.com/images/2020/06/02/all-that-and-still.png

[Jordan96]

How many rebounds/assists?

[3ball]

How many rebounds/assists?

when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..

[Jordan96]

when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..

The only way to get a rebound is if someone misses a shot, so if you get 10 straight rebounds the other team probably missed 10 straight shots, that means you played great defense


LeBron getting double the rebounds of MJ means LeBron played twice the defense MJ did, and forced the opposition to miss more shots

[2ball]

when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..

Damn. On top of that you have to score more points then the other team in order to win (something LeBron wasn’t good at)

[ELITEpower23]

The only way to get a rebound is if someone misses a shot, so if you get 10 straight rebounds the other team probably missed 10 straight shots, that means you played great defense


LeBron getting double the rebounds of MJ means LeBron played twice the defense MJ did, and forced the opposition to miss more shots

Bingo

[Axe]

Bingo
Why use two dups to mock him?

[light]

If you consider LeBron's assist points created he had far more clutch points.

[RogueBorg]

How many rebounds/assists?

Jordan, who's shorter and 70 lbs lighter is a better offensive rebounder in the regular season AND the post-season than LBJ

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1de3644a97da13c3f83ce2687efe4733/tenor.gif?itemid=8071068

[ImKobe]

The only way to get a rebound is if someone misses a shot, so if you get 10 straight rebounds the other team probably missed 10 straight shots, that means you played great defense


LeBron getting double the rebounds of MJ means LeBron played twice the defense MJ did, and forced the opposition to miss more shots

False. Lebron plays in a different era. Jordan also averaged more offensive rebounds than Lebron in an era where he had to beat 7-footers to the ball. It's a lot easier to clock in double-digit rebounds when teams are playing short line-ups and shooting a lot of 3s and playing at a higher pace, there are a lot more rebounding opportunities for Lebron as a result. Guys like Luka Doncic are averaging 9 rebounds a game, does anyone even have Luka as an average defensive player?

[Wally450]

What about some other great players? Why is it always comparative to LeBron when you say they aren't even close?

[2ball]

What about some other great players? Why is it always comparative to LeBron when you say they aren't even close?

Because LeBron is the best player of this generation and we are exploiting that gap MJ has over him

[YouKnowWhatItIs]

when a team needs a bucket, rebounding and assists mean nothing... And they also don't dictate momentum or control like scoring

Scoring is the cheat code.. the shortcut and direct way to increase the scoreboard.. otoh, you can get 10 straight rebounds and not add to the scoreboard at all..

So Chris Bosh’s offensive rebound and assist to Ray Allen mean nothing?

What about Jordan passing it to Kerr, or Kobe’s alley-opp pass to Shaq?

[Roundball_Rock]

Zach Lavine was 1st or 2nd in this stat this season. Why? Because Lavine takes every shot in the final minutes. LeBron passes the ball to open players often in the same situations.

It is interesting he notes Stockton, who consistently choked in the playoffs (including averaging 9.7 PPG in the 98' finals and 7 PPG from games 2-6) . He just had hot shooting those two playoff runs in that tiny sample size (17 attempts each year). He shot 77% in 97' and 98' in that small sample. 99'? 33%. 00'? 0% (3 attempts)

[3ball]

Zach Lavine was 1st or 2nd in this stat this season. Why? Because Lavine takes every shot in the final minutes. LeBron passes the ball to open players often in the same situations.

It is interesting he notes Stockton, who consistently choked in the playoffs (including averaging 9.7 PPG in the 98' finals and 7 PPG from games 2-6) . He just had hot shooting those two playoff runs in that tiny sample size (17 attempts each year). He shot 77% in 97' and 98' in that small sample. 99'? 33%. 00'? 0% (3 attempts)

So nothing to refute the OP except unrelated regular season stats from lavine - so nothing to do with Playoffs

Got it

My threads are irrefutable and it's fun watching you come back with nothing

[3ball]

What about some other great players? Why is it always comparative to LeBron when you say they aren't even close?

Kobe led clutch points in 2002 playoffs (47 pts), and 2008-2010 (51, 47, 47)

So he also exceeded Lebron in the clutch... (Lebron had 10 and 16 pts in 09/10... So that's about 4 pts per round vs 12 for Kobe in those years - that's why lebron missed Finals in 09/10