9 unarmed Blacks were killed by Police in 2019

[Patrick Chewing]

And 19 unarmed Whites were killed by Police in 2019.



Source: FBI

[sd3035]

You're not supposed to bring logic to the argument

Low IQ people only operate on emotion, they won't understand facts

[~primetime~]

This is about justice though...so we're going to need to know how many of the 9 were charged with murder vs the 19.

[Patrick Chewing]

And the goal posts move again.

[~primetime~]

And the goal posts move again.

https://twitter.com/OfficialMLK3/status/1266858809437323267?s=19

That's where the goalposts always were

4 arrests right away and probably no protests or riots

[ThatCoolKid]

And 19 unarmed Whites were killed by Police in 2019.



Source: FBI

There are 6x as many whites as blacks in the country. So you can multiply the 9x6 to get an equivalent rate of deaths per population -> 54 > 19. 54/19 = 2.85

Therefore blacks were 2.85 x more likely to be killed unarmed than whites according to your stats which you didn't even post a link for.

[Patrick Chewing]

There are 6x as many whites as blacks in the country. So you can multiply the 9x6 to get an equivalent rate of deaths per population -> 54 > 19. 54/19 = 2.85

Therefore blacks were 2.85 x more likely to be killed unarmed than whites according to your stats which you didn't even post a link for.

These people aren’t protesting based on equivalency and projections. :oldlol:

[~primetime~]

No they're protesting based on justice

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266396068914229248?s=19

[Patrick Chewing]

No they're protesting based on justice

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266396068914229248?s=19


So then where were they last year for the 9 Black and 19 Whites that were killed? And that’s assuming that all of those were unjustly and not a case of where the police officer had no other choice.

[Patrick Chewing]

No they're protesting based on justice

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266396068914229248?s=19

Also, the cop is in jail charged with murder. What more justice do they want? See him hung in the town square?

[~primetime~]

Also, the cop is in jail charged with murder. What more justice do they want? See him hung in the town square?

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266432936749830146?s=19

[Cleverness]

This is about justice though...so we're going to need to know how many of the 9 were charged with murder vs the 19.

You mean justice for the 7,000+ blacks murdered by other blacks last year?

Or justice the black children being murdered on the streets every year by other blacks?

It's not about race. It's about race baiting media convincing you that a) black people are literally being hunted by racist police everyday (thank LeYuan and Kaep!) and b) all white people need to feel guilty for their privilege so they can <unknown>.

[Patrick Chewing]

If it was truly about justice, people would be chanting for All Lives Matter, but nope, we have to dumb ourselves down and get angry when we hear someone say that and shout them down with Black Lives Matter instead.

[imdaman99]

Who lied to OP and told him he was white? :lol

[Pointguard]

No they're protesting based on justice

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266396068914229248?s=19

Good post.

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/s2MFkMdj/e9d922a.jpg

[SATAN]

Chewing is pissed because his fellow white tribe didn't join him in protest after he got a speeding ticket in 2006 :lol

[jstern]

https://i.postimg.cc/s2MFkMdj/e9d922a.jpg

I guess it's a good post.

The Floyd killing wasn't during a violent arrest. But I'm hoping that if the stats you're posting were higher whether for black or white, nobody would have a problem with it. Quit frankly 3 and 4 are just too low. Society would just get better in so many areas. Starting with the youth.


No they're protesting based on justice

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266396068914229248?s=19

This is one of the worst deliberately out of context quote I've ever read.

[Long Duck Dong]

No they're protesting based on justice

https://twitter.com/icecube/status/1266396068914229248?s=19

That's a single weekend in Chiraq. If the put even 1% of the effort to stopping violence there that they are doing for George Floyd, they'd save 10 times as many lives in a single year

[Long Duck Dong]

https://i.postimg.cc/s2MFkMdj/e9d922a.jpg

If this is true, the police outrage movement just took a tank round to the balls.

[~primetime~]

This is one of the worst deliberately out of context quote I've ever read.

he's saying had those 4 officers been arrested it may have prevented all of this...what other context is there?

[Patrick Chewing]

he's saying had those 4 officers been arrested it may have prevented all of this...what other context is there?

Highly doubt it. As you can clearly see, ANTIFA and the looters were clearly looking for an opportunity to cause mayhem and destruction, and this was it. This was going to happen no matter what. These riots were well orchestrated and well-funded. They were just waiting for this.

[~primetime~]

Highly doubt it. As you can clearly see, ANTIFA and the looters were clearly looking for an opportunity to cause mayhem and destruction, and this was it. This was going to happen no matter what. These riots were well orchestrated and well-funded. They were just waiting for this.

I highly doubt that...if the 4 officers were charged with murder pending trial from the get go...my gut feeling is that NONE of this ever happens

[Patrick Chewing]

I highly doubt that...if the 4 officers were charged with murder pending trial from the get go...my gut feeling is that NONE of this ever happens

:facepalm


ok bud

[~primetime~]

:facepalm


ok bud

They've all been screaming 'justice' from the start...you just don't want to hear it...everyone was wondering how those officers weren't charged with murder, including conservatives, hell 3 of them STILL are free.

NOW...yeah it's probably a ton of dumb kids with no political stance whatsoever taking advantage and looting...but the match that lit the fire was the lack of justice

[Long Duck Dong]

They've all been screaming 'justice' from the start...you just don't want to hear it...everyone was wondering how those officers weren't charged with murder, including conservatives, hell 3 of them STILL are free.

NOW...yeah it's probably a ton of dumb kids with no political stance whatsoever taking advantage and looting...but the match that lit the fire was the lack of justice

You can bet if they do have a political stance, they number 100 to 1 in favor of the left though.

[kurple]

chewing is legit triggered because we are trying to end racism


man thats fvcked up

[Patrick Chewing]

chewing is legit triggered because we are trying to end racism


man thats fvcked up

I'm trying to educate you that "systematic racism" or whatever you want to call it nowadays is a myth. It's Fake News. And this thread shuts down your stupid argument that cops kill Blacks because of "Racism!"

Stop thinking with a primitive mindset and educate yourself.

[Hittin_Shots]

I'm trying to educate you that "systematic racism" or whatever you want to call it nowadays is a myth. It's Fake News. And this thread shuts down your stupid argument that cops kill Blacks because of "Racism!"

Stop thinking with a primitive mindset and educate yourself.

How much easier does it make handling failing at life for someone if they're told they're oppressed and can have a victim complex. More likely to accept it and not strive to better themselves, it's terrible for them in the long run.

[Patrick Chewing]

How much easier does it make handling failing at life for someone if they're told they're oppressed and can have a victim complex. More likely to accept it and not strive to better themselves, it's terrible for them in the long run.

It's an endless cycle, but no one wants to hear it. You have other minority populations who came here many years after the Emancipation Proclamation, and they are thriving. Why is that? We can create all the programs and open up all the avenues possible to help Black communities, but it'll never be enough. We can even dance around the idea of Reparations which is a horrible idea in its own right, but that will still solve nothing.

[Nanners]

It's an endless cycle, but no one wants to hear it. You have other minority populations who came here many years after the Emancipation Proclamation, and they are thriving. Why is that? We can create all the programs and open up all the avenues possible to help Black communities, but it'll never be enough. We can even dance around the idea of Reparations which is a horrible idea in its own right, but that will still solve nothing.

There are definitely programs and changes to current laws that would help black communities. Something like 75% of black kids grow up without a father figure, either because their father is incarcerated or because their parents are both underpaid and the mother cant collect any benefits if the father is living under the same roof... IMO figuring out a way to give young black men positive male role models would go light years toward fixing their problems later in life. The links between adult criminality and fatherless upbringings are crazy strong.

[~primetime~]

There are definitely programs and changes to current laws that would help black communities. Something like 75% of black kids grow up without a father figure, either because their father is incarcerated or because their parents are both underpaid and the mother cant collect any benefits if the father is living under the same roof... IMO figuring out a way to give young black men positive male role models would go light years toward fixing their problems later in life. The links between adult criminality and fatherless upbringings are crazy strong.

Also teenage pregnancy is huge a player, or even 'young 20s'...being raised by parents who are still children, and the parents can't go off to college or focus on career because they have kids.

righties aren't going to want to hear this but keeping abortion legal AND acceptable is of great benefit not just to the black community but to ALL of us.

[Nanners]

Also teenage pregnancy is huge a player, or even 'young 20s'...being raised by parents who are still children, and the parents can't go off to college or focus on career because they have kids.

righties aren't going to want to hear this but keeping abortion legal AND acceptable is of great benefit not just to the black community but to ALL of us.

Those teen parents arent missing out on too much education wise, going off to college seems more and more pointless by the day... youre just gonna end up with a pile of unescapable debt and a degree that will almost certainly be useless. Even with a desireable degree, good luck finding any career that is viable long-term.

[~primetime~]

Those teen parents arent missing out on too much education wise, going off to college seems more and more pointless by the day... youre just gonna end up with a pile of unescapable debt and a degree that will almost certainly be useless. Even with a desireable degree, good luck finding any career that is viable long-term.

Bachelor degrees average $32k more a year than high school diploma alone...but you can throw out college all together and it would still allow them to focus on career, figuring out how to live on their own, and just maturing in general...THEN have children they can actually raise properly.

[RRR3]

If it was truly about justice, people would be chanting for All Lives Matter, but nope, we have to dumb ourselves down and get angry when we hear someone say that and shout them down with Black Lives Matter instead.
Only Black Lives Matter.

[Patrick Chewing]

Only Black Lives Matter.

Apparently. That means that if someone snuffed either one of us out today, no one would care. :(

[Long Duck Dong]

righties aren't going to want to hear this but keeping abortion legal AND acceptable is of great benefit not just to the black community but to ALL of us.


Most of these children that would be born are going to be Democrats if they have to choose a side. Abortion is an ADVANTAGE for us righties. One of many things I don't agree with the bible thumping and moral authority wing of the Republican party.

Watch, and mark my words, abortion will eventually become illegal one of these days and it's going to be the left that does it. The moment the overwhelming majority of Republicans(only around 50% now) are on board with it being completely legal, the left will reverse course and go against it for 2 reasons. First of all it's racist, it kills more minority children, and 2nd, like everything else the left is constantly looking for reasons to champion causes and exert authoritarian control of our behavior.

[ThatCoolKid]

Apparently. That means that if someone snuffed either one of us out today, no one would care. :(

The point of black lives matter is that systemic racism denies the humanity of black people. White people's lives have always mattered - no one needs to say it.

Also - I already destroyed this thread on page 1. Via your own stats (which you still haven't posted a link for) black are 2.85x more likely that whites to be killed by police while unarmed.

People are protesting because the system harms blacks disproportionately - as evidenced by your own data.

As for the quote manny showed from twitter - I would like to see his reference.

[Patrick Chewing]

The point of black lives matter is that systemic racism denies the humanity of black people. White people's lives have always mattered - no one needs to say it.

Also - I already destroyed this thread on page 1. Via your own stats (which you still haven't posted a link for) black are 2.85x more likely that whites to be killed by police while unarmed.

People are protesting because the system harms blacks disproportionately - as evidenced by your own data.

As for the quote manny showed from twitter - I would like to see his reference.

You're wrong, but that's fine. People can learn.

So if the system is disproportionately unfair for Blacks, then why do Blacks die at the hands of other Blacks more than any other race? If you want to burn cities down over 9 deaths, how come we are not burning cities down over hundreds and hundreds of deaths.

You see, this is why there will always be pushback against Black Lives Matter and against slimy Liberals with "White guilt". They turn a blind eye to the REAL problems facing Black America. Other Blacks.

[Patrick Chewing]

28 people shot in Chicago last night, two of them being fatal.

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-violence-shooting-gun-violence/6228587/

Not a peep from the media. Instead, you have pathetic White Liberals kneeling and kissing the shoes of Blacks at these protests. :facepalm

[ThatCoolKid]

You're wrong, but that's fine. People can learn.

So if the system is disproportionately unfair for Blacks, then why do Blacks die at the hands of other Blacks more than any other race? If you want to burn cities down over 9 deaths, how come we are not burning cities down over hundreds and hundreds of deaths.

You see, this is why there will always be pushback against Black Lives Matter and against slimy Liberals with "White guilt". They turn a blind eye to the REAL problems facing Black America. Other Blacks.

Within any racial group they are more likely to kill people in their own racial group. People kill people they are around and know/interact with. That is obvious. Black people who kill other black people can be reported to the police - and if there is evidence charged and arrested. If you want to alter this statistic then you should change socioeconomic policies. Such policies are the cornerstone of the Democratic policy agenda - increased access to healthcare/mental healthcare, improved education etc etc.

Police get away with a lot because there is no one enforcing the law when it comes to their conduct. This requires police reform - which has been known for a long time but no large systemic solutions have been put forward. BLM is fighting for this obvious next step that we all know is necessary but hasn't happened because of pushback from the powers that be.

[hateraid]

You're not supposed to bring logic to the argument

Low IQ people only operate on emotion, they won't understand facts

Cue Primetime


This is about justice though...so we're going to need to know how many of the 9 were charged with murder vs the 19.

[~primetime~]

I brought actual logic hateraid...:facepalm...this has always been about justice

if it is shown that the officers doing the killing are treated equal THEN a point is made...and you know what, maybe that's the case, someone should look into it...I nominate hateraid to do the research

[Patrick Chewing]

Once again, 9 versus 19. But we have a problem with systematic racism. A country with Black Presidents, Black Governors, Black Mayors, Black Police Chiefs, Black Military, Black Police, Black Business Owners, Black Athletes, Black Entertainers. The list goes on and on.

You've all been bamboozled.

[Hawker]

They've all been screaming 'justice' from the start...you just don't want to hear it...everyone was wondering how those officers weren't charged with murder, including conservatives, hell 3 of them STILL are free.

NOW...yeah it's probably a ton of dumb kids with no political stance whatsoever taking advantage and looting...but the match that lit the fire was the lack of justice

So what you're saying is there are some "very fine people" amongst the crowd?

[Hawker]

Bachelor degrees average $32k more a year than high school diploma alone...but you can throw out college all together and it would still allow them to focus on career, figuring out how to live on their own, and just maturing in general...THEN have children they can actually raise properly.

Again, dumb statistic if you're not separating it out by degree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpwAOHJsxg&t=21s

These guys are killing it on bourbon street with their college degree!

[Long Duck Dong]

So what you're saying is there are some "very fine people" amongst the crowd?

Yep the knife cuts both ways and they ain't liking it :oldlol:

If Charlottesville rally was about white supremacy because a few racists showed up they must swallow the fact the the looters, anarchists and arsonists are part of the leftist George Floyd protest movement :lol

Gotta burn deep

[~primetime~]

So what you're saying is there are some "very fine people" amongst the crowd?

of the people doing actual damage outside of just protesting, no...I will not say those are very fine people

not even sure where you're going with that...you agreeing Trump looked foolish when he said it?...or just trying to put words in my mouth like you did in the covid thread?

[~primetime~]

Again, dumb statistic if you're not separating it out by degree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpwAOHJsxg&t=21s

These guys are killing it on bourbon street with their college degree!

you have a college degree :facepalm

you don't have to sheep with your team on every issue dude...you can have your own thoughts

[Hawker]

of the people doing actual damage outside of just protesting, no...I will not say those are very fine people

not even sure where you're going with that...you agreeing Trump looked foolish when he said it?...or just trying to put words in my mouth like you did in the covid thread?

Just a general statement about these protests.

I agreed with Trump back then and I agree now that there are some "very fine people" actually legitimately protesting the George Floyd deaths. And just like back then, there were some people there just to cause trouble and look for a fight.

[Hawker]

you have a college degree :facepalm

you don't have to sheep with your team on every issue dude...you can have your own thoughts

I do have a college degree - in an industry that is in demand and making decent coin. And I work amongst a crew of 12 people and only 1 other person has a degree (entry level engineer) and they are all smart, doing well and some even have trades. And that's just my current crew.

They know stuff that I don't and have better critical thinking skills and career path than many degreed individuals I know.

The skills I learned outside of my degree have benefitted me way more than my actual degree.

[~primetime~]

I do have a college degree - in an industry that is in demand and making decent coin. And I work amongst a crew of 12 people and only 1 other person has a degree (entry level engineer) and they are all smart, doing well and some even have trades.

They know stuff that I don't and have better critical thinking skills and career path than many degreed individuals I know.

The skills I learned outside of my degree have benefitted me way more than my actual degree.

so you're degree was worthless...therefore they all are?

the AVERAGE bachelor degree makes 32k more than the average high school diploma...we can bring up the different professions if you want...maybe SOME degrees actually fair worse than just a high school diploma somehow, but on average the college grads are doing better. Does college cost too much? absolutely...agree with you there

[~primetime~]

also my gut feeling is that you wouldn't be where you are now without your degree...but I'll just go along with you on that

[Shogon]

Again, dumb statistic if you're not separating it out by degree.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXpwAOHJsxg&t=21s

These guys are killing it on bourbon street with their college degree!

Goodness gracious the girl at the end of that video is a ****ing dime. Holy shit.

[Hawker]

so you're degree was worthless...therefore they all are?

the AVERAGE bachelor degree makes 32k more than the average high school diploma...we can bring up the different professions if you want...maybe SOME degrees actually fair worse than just a high school diploma somehow, but on average the college grads are doing better. Does college cost too much? absolutely...agree with you there

Apply basic critical thinking skills please. Just because I have a degree doesn't mean I'm going to tell every person in the world they have to have a degree otherwise you'll be a bum on the street and never get laid. I used to think having a degree was everything but once you get out of the little academic world and start interacting with people that don't have a degree - you realize there are other ways to be wealthy. Because of that "everyone must get a degree" culture, you have people on the streets of bourbon in tens of thousands of debt with a shitty job. That's on you.

Drive down I-10 sometime between SA and Houston and you'll see so many signs for fitters and welders it's unreal.

My degree wasn't "worthless" you just can't make a blanket statement like "everyone must get a college degree." It's just not a true statement.

And you can't also promote cancelling debt if you think a college degree is worth it. That's contradictory.

It's so much easier to consult, be a sole trader and even own your own small business and become a millionaire as a tradesman vs. finance or an engineer like me. I'd have to get out of engineering if I ever wanted to do that.

[Hawker]

also my gut feeling is that you wouldn't be where you are now without your degree...but I'll just go along with you on that

I have an engineering degree in a field with high demand that commands a high wage. As would many other engineering degrees.

Would you tell a communications major that they will make the same money as a petroleum engineering major would?

[~primetime~]

Apply basic critical thinking skills please. Just because I have a degree doesn't mean I'm going to tell every person in the world they have to have a degree otherwise you'll be a bum on the street and never get laid. I used to think having a degree was everything but once you get out of the little academic world and start interacting with people that don't have a degree - you realize there are other ways to be wealthy. Because of that "everyone must get a degree" culture, you have people on the streets of bourbon in tens of thousands of debt with a shitty job. That's on you.

Drive down I-10 sometime between SA and Houston and you'll see so many signs for fitters and welders it's unreal.

My degree wasn't "worthless" you just can't make a blanket statement like "everyone must get a college degree." It's just not a true statement.

And you can't also promote cancelling debt if you think a college degree is worth it. That's contradictory.

It's so much easier to consult, be a sole trader and even own your own small business and become a millionaire as a tradesman vs. finance or an engineer like me. I'd have to get out of engineering if I ever wanted to do that.

I agree there is tons of grey but for the sake of not getting into a long drawn out debate about college in a thread that is about something completely different it's okay to throw out generalization...in general having a degree > not having. I don't think we should dissuade kids from college (generally speaking) either.

The US has the best colleges in the world...like 9 of the top-10 last time I looked at sites that rank...it's one of the main reasons we are innovative...our grade-high school may be trash here but our colleges aren't trash, they just cost too damn much

[nightlight]

I agree there is tons of grey but for the sake of not getting into a long drawn out debate about college in a thread that is about something completely different it's okay to throw out generalization...in general having a degree > not having. I don't think we should dissuade kids from college (generally speaking) either.

The US has the best colleges in the world...like 9 of the top-10 last time I looked at sites that rank...it's one of the main reasons we are innovative...our grade-high school may be trash here but our colleges aren't trash, they just cost too damn much

You are really some special kind of idiot applying what it was like for you entering the work force 20 years ago to today's labor market.

[Hawker]

Goodness gracious the girl at the end of that video is a ****ing dime. Holy shit.

Gotta get a degree if you want to become a bartender.

[Hawker]

I agree there is tons of grey but for the sake of not getting into a long drawn out debate about college in a thread that is about something completely different it's okay to throw out generalization...in general having a degree > not having. I don't think we should dissuade kids from college (generally speaking) either.

The US has the best colleges in the world...like 9 of the top-10 last time I looked at sites that rank...it's one of the main reasons we are innovative...our grade-high school may be trash here but our colleges aren't trash, they just cost too damn much

Disagree completely. Kids needs to be told they are going to be in debt if they are going to college and to think hard about their career choice if they go in to it. No sugarcoating.

They also need to be shown examples of people that didn't go to college and what they did to become successful.

I was never presented another option and I'm not unhappy with my degree choice I just wish I would've been presented that option. That's why you go so many clowns with useless degrees working shitty jobs. Gen X and Baby boomers ****ed it all up.

It's not something completely different since I don't want black kids getting degrees and getting into debt. That doesn't advance them at all.

[fsvr54]

Goodness gracious the girl at the end of that video is a ****ing dime. Holy shit.

Agreed.

As well as with Hawker's points.

[~primetime~]

It's not something completely different since I don't want black kids getting degrees and getting into debt. That doesn't advance them at all.
yeah I'm not with you here...in the long run I think that higher education is the correct path to pulling them out of the hole, part of the path anyway

I am with you on the debt being too high...no arguments on that side

[Hawker]

yeah I'm not with you here...in the long run I think that higher education is the correct path to pulling them out of the hole

I am with you on the debt being to high...no arguments on that side

Of course - you're a sheep that believes everyone must get a college degree like we're living in the 1900s still. It's a different economy now.

You don't want to tell them the possible drawbacks or badsides. Just fill them with sunshine and feel good slogans. And then they'll end up on bourbon street pouring beer. What a great use of their degree.

[Patrick Chewing]

9 versus 19

Never forget those numbers the next time a BLM'er gets in your face asking you to get on your knees.

[~primetime~]

Of course - you're a sheep that believes everyone must get a college degree like we're living in the 1900s still. It's a different economy now.

NO...I've only said 'generally speaking' like 800 times now...come on dude, you really have to stop doing that

[Shogon]

College degrees used to mean something... they meant a lot actually. They meant that you willfully pursued higher education. Maybe daddy paid for it or maybe you did it yourself... either way, you did something that was considered above and beyond and while not a perfect indicator, it was a pretty good gauge of where you were at as an individual.

However, with big government stepping in and deciding that everyone should be able to go to college and deciding that they were going to guarantee student loans for everyone, higher education basically means little to nothing nowadays. All it means now is that you were likely ignorant enough to go into a heaping amount of debt and you decided to party your way through another 4 years of life after high school.

It's what? Less than 10 percent of people who go to college end up working in their field of study? So what's the point of everyone going to college? To get brainwashed by some libtard professors and have no appreciation for the real world? I used to work a particular job for many years in management... there would be college grads that would get a job alongside me... some of them absolutely first job in the world... because they had a degree... and almost all of them fell flat on their face and could not lead and did not have any real life experience. Their entire life up to that point was sitting in a class room and they just didn't know how to do anything else.



All that aside... it is logistically impossible for every job in society to obtain a job that even comes close to requiring a college degree. That's not reality. It's just simply not real.

If every single person in the entire country... all 100% of them... went to college... which is what a large sect of this country really pushes for and thinks is ideal... well guess what, there would still need to be people to bake the bread, cut the grass and clean the toilets... what I'm saying is that reality simply can't play out in such a way that everyone needs a college degree. It's a bullshit lie that has been being pedaled for years and I'm not even quite sure where it started. My parents wanted me to go and put myself into heaping amounts of debt. Luckily for me I'm smarter than both of them and between my smarts and the fact that I was emotionally troubled in my teens, I did not go. Since then... I'm now in my 30s, have no debt and I'm sitting on what some people would consider a small fortune. Everyone is retarded. Oh well. C'est la vie.

[Hawker]

NO...I've only said 'generally speaking' like 800 times now...come on dude, you really have to stop doing that

Fine. I just think it's important to outline the debt and that there are other opportunities. Show the whole picture and stop with the BS feel good slogans. I will never be in favor of any kind of debt cancellation as long as this culture exist and as long as useless degrees exist.

It also makes it look like people that don't have degrees are stupid which just isn't true.

[bladefd]

There are 6x as many whites as blacks in the country. So you can multiply the 9x6 to get an equivalent rate of deaths per population -> 54 > 19. 54/19 = 2.85

Therefore blacks were 2.85 x more likely to be killed unarmed than whites according to your stats which you didn't even post a link for.

Damn, you just killed the thread :cheers:

[Shogon]

Damn, you just killed the thread :cheers:

He didn't kill anything. Blacks are far more likely than 2.85x to commit crimes AND violent crimes than whites, per capita. It's not even close.

If anything, based off of the above REALITY, NOT PERCEPTION... ACTUAL OBJECTIVE REALITY... the police response is disproportionately in favor of blacks. Only idiots who ignore numbers don't see it.

I've said it before and I'll say it a million times.

Once the media sinks their teeth into something and decides to lock onto a story and a narrative, they can convince you of anything.

If they wanted to, they could report every single time anyone gets hit by lightning, and guess what? They'd be reporting it every day if they so chose because people get hit by lightning every single day. Far more often than a cop unjustly kills someone, in fact. And then what? You'd be afraid to leave your ****ing house, because you're a borderline brain dead moron that doesn't take 5 seconds to think for himself.

Want proof? Look at the COVID actual impact vs COVID response by the nation. The media thinks for people. It's pathetic. You're pathetic. You're literally wasting my oxygen. Stop doing that.

[Patrick Chewing]

Damn, you just killed the thread :cheers:

Let me ask you a question, blade. Do you think I, or any one of us, make these threads to cause controversy? Do you think we make these threads to deny that there are injustices in the world?

I made this thread to point out that this hysteria of Black people dying at the hands of cops is unfounded. Why? Because the numbers prove it. I'm not denying that these deaths exist. I'm denying the need to destroy our country over it.

And you guys will come back with, "You just don't understand...blah blah blah". Well, you know what? There isn't anything to understand. Because what you're saying exists, doesn't exist. Your alternate reality of systemic racism is thoroughly destroyed when you compare 9 versus 19. But still, you find a way to believe the lie.

[~primetime~]

Fine. I just think it's important to outline the debt and that there are other opportunities. Show the whole picture and stop with the BS feel good slogans. I will never be in favor of any kind of debt cancellation as long as this culture exist and as long as useless degrees exist.

It also makes it look like people that don't have degrees are stupid which just isn't true.
there is a lot to it, the overall picture is big no question, and the debt is too much agree 100%...not sure what you mean with 'feel good slogan' but this entire college debate was a side point...I shouldn't have to paint a big picture that breaks down all majors unless this thread itself is about college degrees

[Norcaliblunt]

This shows white mofos need to stick up for their people. If they made a big deal about police brutality then maybe we could get somewhere with this issue.

[Cleverness]

He didn't kill anything. Blacks are far more likely than 2.85x to commit crimes AND violent crimes than whites, per capita. It's not even close.

If anything, based off of the above REALITY, NOT PERCEPTION... ACTUAL OBJECTIVE REALITY... the police response is disproportionately in favor of blacks. Only idiots who ignore numbers don't see it.

I've said it before and I'll say it a million times.

Once the media sinks their teeth into something and decides to lock onto a story and a narrative, they can convince you of anything.

If they wanted to, they could report every single time anyone gets hit by lightning, and guess what? They'd be reporting it every day if they so chose because people get hit by lightning every single day. Far more often than a cop unjustly kills someone, in fact. And then what? You'd be afraid to leave your ****ing house, because you're a borderline brain dead moron that doesn't take 5 seconds to think for himself.

Want proof? Look at the COVID actual impact vs COVID response by the nation. The media thinks for people. It's pathetic. You're pathetic. You're literally wasting my oxygen. Stop doing that.

rofl so true

bladefd, thecoolkid, primetime, etc would be in here with media headlines about a "spike in lightning" in certain areas and how "studies" have shown we need to take drastic measures :lol

[warriorfan]

rofl so true

bladefd, thecoolkid, primetime, etc would be in here with media headlines about a "spike in lightning" in certain areas and how "studies" have shown we need to take drastic measures :lol

Rainy weather forecast today. Time to shut everything down until the sun comes back out!

[ThatCoolKid]

rofl so true

bladefd, thecoolkid, primetime, etc would be in here with media headlines about a "spike in lightning" in certain areas and how "studies" have shown we need to take drastic measures :lol

I went out today just to chill - while the conservative snowflakes cower in their mothers basements furiously ranting about protestors. If they ever went outside and met a cute female protestor they would instantly convert from incel to simp and be BLM supporters :lol

[warriorfan]

He didn't kill anything. Blacks are far more likely than 2.85x to commit crimes AND violent crimes than whites, per capita. It's not even close.

If anything, based off of the above REALITY, NOT PERCEPTION... ACTUAL OBJECTIVE REALITY... the police response is disproportionately in favor of blacks. Only idiots who ignore numbers don't see it.

I've said it before and I'll say it a million times.

Once the media sinks their teeth into something and decides to lock onto a story and a narrative, they can convince you of anything.

If they wanted to, they could report every single time anyone gets hit by lightning, and guess what? They'd be reporting it every day if they so chose because people get hit by lightning every single day. Far more often than a cop unjustly kills someone, in fact. And then what? You'd be afraid to leave your ****ing house, because you're a borderline brain dead moron that doesn't take 5 seconds to think for himself.

Want proof? Look at the COVID actual impact vs COVID response by the nation. The media thinks for people. It's pathetic. You're pathetic. You're literally wasting my oxygen. Stop doing that.

Very true. The repetitive media coverage and hyping creates an alternate world to low iqs who can’t see past their basic emotions, they get bamboozled into believing that extremely rare occurrences are actually an epidemic, driving them to seek “solutions” that are worse than the blown out of proportion problem.

We have a huge population that legitimately can’t think. Or they won’t think, refuse to actually. Some people enjoy being riled up in some strange way. They don’t want to think or reason or negotiate, they want to get super pissed and belligerent and argue about nothing productive. It gives them some sort of high, “rageaholic” being actually a very accurate term. You see this is very prevalent among the Orange man bad and the “libtard” haters. Both sides do have real points at times but on the large part they fall right into the category I was describing before.

Orange man bad vs the Libtards. It’s turned into a parallel to professional sports/WWE. Right down to the bumper stickers and baseball caps. Everyone wants to be on a team and talk shit without any attempt at listening. Lots of straw man arguments and poorly thought out statements. Base level iq stuff. It’s gotten pretty bad.

[Cleverness]

Hawker and Shogon spot on again with college stuff. primetime still stuck on dumbed-down stats about college. :/


There are definitely programs and changes to current laws that would help black communities. Something like 75% of black kids grow up without a father figure, either because their father is incarcerated or because their parents are both underpaid and the mother cant collect any benefits if the father is living under the same roof... IMO figuring out a way to give young black men positive male role models would go light years toward fixing their problems later in life. The links between adult criminality and fatherless upbringings are crazy strong.

reminds me of the famous Obama quote in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszQelEQ2KY



This shows white mofos need to stick up for their people. If they made a big deal about police brutality then maybe we could get somewhere with this issue.

maybe white mofos don't consider other people w/ white skin as "their people" as much as other skin color groups :confusedshrug:

though we'll get there if we keep demonizing people for their skin color and keep dividing people by skin color



I went out today just to chill - while the conservative snowflakes cower in their mothers basements furiously ranting about protestors. If they ever went outside and met a cute female protestor they would instantly convert from incel to simp and be BLM supporters :lol

you went out "just to chill" - good for you. i went out to work all day. not sure about mother's basements comment; that's more for communist group Antifa


Still waiting for your response here

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480451-Nothing-can-justify-this-destruction-of-people%92s-lives/page2

[ThatCoolKid]

Hawker and Shogon spot on again with college stuff. primetime still stuck on dumbed-down stats about college. :/



reminds me of the famous Obama quote in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FszQelEQ2KY




maybe white mofos don't consider other people w/ white skin as "their people" as much as other skin color groups :confusedshrug:

though we'll get there if we keep demonizing people for their skin color and keep dividing people by skin color




you went out "just to chill" - good for you. i went out to work all day. not sure about mother's basements comment; that's more for communist group Antifa


Still waiting for your response here

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?480451-Nothing-can-justify-this-destruction-of-people%92s-lives/page2

Went out for a walk after working hours :lol . Bro I'm not going back to a thread from a week ago - go take it up with the Columbia University researchers. I'm sure they'll be very interested in your expertise :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

I went out today just to chill - while the conservative snowflakes cower in their mothers basements furiously ranting about protestors. If they ever went outside and met a cute female protestor they would instantly convert from incel to simp and be BLM supporters :lol

You went out to join your friends cause you're all unemployed. Probably unemployed prior to Covid and by choice. Us Conservatives are working, building strong families, and you guys? Kneeling in front of Black people and apologizing for your "Whiteness" :oldlol:

[Cleverness]

Went out for a walk after working hours :lol . Bro I'm not going back to a thread from a week ago - go take it up with the Columbia University researchers. I'm sure they'll be very interested in your expertise :oldlol:

the researchers made a model with their own assumptions baked in. they already know it's a wild estimation; they don't need me to tell them that.

you, on the other hand, eat up the mainstream media bullshit narratives that irresponsibly run stories about these models... and when you get called out on it you have nothing to say.

[bladefd]

Let me ask you a question, blade. Do you think I, or any one of us, make these threads to cause controversy? Do you think we make these threads to deny that there are injustices in the world?

I made this thread to point out that this hysteria of Black people dying at the hands of cops is unfounded. Why? Because the numbers prove it. I'm not denying that these deaths exist. I'm denying the need to destroy our country over it.

And you guys will come back with, "You just don't understand...blah blah blah". Well, you know what? There isn't anything to understand. Because what you're saying exists, doesn't exist. Your alternate reality of systemic racism is thoroughly destroyed when you compare 9 versus 19. But still, you find a way to believe the lie.

Your whole point essentially was "Cops take advantage of blacks but so what? Whites are also taken advantage of so it doesn't matter". Almost as if that somehow justifies the cop behavior we have been seeing.

It's not even just about deaths by cops but the out of control cop behavior we have been seeing. Some of it can be justified by saying "blacks tend to be more violent up front", which is true due to the condition of their upbringing & poverty, but then the next step is to invest more resources in minority communities and education systems across the country. This must improve on a societal level.

Cops also tend to be rougher than they need to be often. Especially when it comes to the policing the minority communities. You could also make some policing changes. That Floyd death should have never happened, period. All 4 cops need to be behind bars and made an example of, which hopefully they will be. Accountability matters and your actions matter. Perhaps that will result from this as deterrence when the next cop decides to do something like this.

[bladefd]

Seems it might be much worse.. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed?fbclid=IwAR2fQhxMLbHFwYnfAormAdElEqMEZ-DjdlTRervDxHuUwhbu756WjOyxmtI

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org

[Cleverness]

Seems it might be much worse.. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed?fbclid=IwAR2fQhxMLbHFwYnfAormAdElEqMEZ-DjdlTRervDxHuUwhbu756WjOyxmtI

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org

That's from 2015; of course it was much worse under Obama. :ohwell:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883 Read and learn the facts.

Tucker detailed the 10 unarmed blacks who were shot dead by police in 2019. You should watch his show.

[Patrick Chewing]

Very true. The repetitive media coverage and hyping creates an alternate world to low iqs who can’t see past their basic emotions, they get bamboozled into believing that extremely rare occurrences are actually an epidemic, driving them to seek “solutions” that are worse than the blown out of proportion problem.

We have a huge population that legitimately can’t think. Or they won’t think, refuse to actually. Some people enjoy being riled up in some strange way. They don’t want to think or reason or negotiate, they want to get super pissed and belligerent and argue about nothing productive. It gives them some sort of high, “rageaholic” being actually a very accurate term. You see this is very prevalent among the Orange man bad and the “libtard” haters. Both sides do have real points at times but on the large part they fall right into the category I was describing before.

Orange man bad vs the Libtards. It’s turned into a parallel to professional sports/WWE. Right down to the bumper stickers and baseball caps. Everyone wants to be on a team and talk shit without any attempt at listening. Lots of straw man arguments and poorly thought out statements. Base level iq stuff. It’s gotten pretty bad.

Oh preach brother, preach!!

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NastyDirectChihuahua-size_restricted.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Your whole point essentially was "Cops take advantage of blacks but so what? Whites are also taken advantage of so it doesn't matter". Almost as if that somehow justifies the cop behavior we have been seeing.

It's not even just about deaths by cops but the out of control cop behavior we have been seeing. Some of it can be justified by saying "blacks tend to be more violent up front", which is true due to the condition of their upbringing & poverty, but then the next step is to invest more resources in minority communities and education systems across the country. This must improve on a societal level.

Cops also tend to be rougher than they need to be often. Especially when it comes to the policing the minority communities. You could also make some policing changes. That Floyd death should have never happened, period. All 4 cops need to be behind bars and made an example of, which hopefully they will be. Accountability matters and your actions matter. Perhaps that will result from this as deterrence when the next cop decides to do something like this.

You clearly didn’t read what I wrote cause your response has nothing to do with what I said.

[ThatCoolKid]

the researchers made a model with their own assumptions baked in. they already know it's a wild estimation; they don't need me to tell them that.

you, on the other hand, eat up the mainstream media bullshit narratives that irresponsibly run stories about these models... and when you get called out on it you have nothing to say.

Any model has assumptions baked into it - any moron knows that. This is the best data we have. Do you just close your eyes and ignore research because it may not be 100% accurate?

[bladefd]

That's from 2015; of course it was much worse under Obama. :ohwell:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemic-police-racism-11591119883 Read and learn the facts.

Tucker detailed the 10 unarmed blacks who were shot dead by police in 2019. You should watch his show.

It might actually be a police issue. Check out the main link to the website that looks at 2013 to 2019.

Police are rarely held accountable for the people they kill. Sometimes it might be part of a shootout, but often not. And it does look like black people are more likely to die at hands of police or in police custody than white once we account in population numbers. It could be police culture, training, racism, fear of black people, black people more likely to break the law so more opportunities, societal issue, multiple things combined, etc

[Hittin_Shots]

It might actually be a police issue. Check out the main link to the website that looks at 2013 to 2019.

Police are rarely held accountable for the people they kill. Sometimes it might be part of a shootout, but often not. And it does look like black people are more likely to die at hands of police or in police custody than white once we account in population numbers. It could be police culture, training, racism, fear of black people, black people more likely to break the law so more opportunities, societal issue, multiple things combined, etc


All the statistics when not factoring in population but using something that makes sense like the actual criminal number lean toward it being very similar number for each race but slightly skewed against these studies.