Who is the best small forward in NBA: Leonard or KD?

[Walk on Water]

Paul George isn’t in the conversation because he’s a shooting guard now. Funny how KD said George was better than Leonard. George has gotten better and yet Leonard is so much better now.

So who is better between KD and Kawhi? I think that Leonard has a better all around game but KD is more dominating.

So who is better for winning? I think it depends on the situations. KD could never go all the way with Westbrook. They would make it far but could never get over the hump. Leonard on the other hand won with the Raptors. That’s pretty impressive to just join a team and win. But then again, KD has beaten the Spurs and he beat Leonard when the Spurs won 67 games.

I don’t have an answer. I would say KD is better when he’s hot, but Leonard is more consistent and better all around because of his defense. When I say all around I don’t mean overall, I just mean his game is more balanced.

In order for Leonard to score as much as KD, I would think it would hurt his team because he would have to work harder for his shots and that would throw them out of rhythm. But KD has averaged 32 points when he had to be the man, without Russell. I don’t think Leonard could do that. But I also feel Leonard has better defense. So comparing them is close.

[Duncan21formvp]

Kawhi last year and KD the 2 years prior. Lebron in 2016.

[AussieSteve]

This thread obviously implies that you consider lebron a point guard now.

Given that context, I think KD.

Having said that, who knows what he will be post achilles.

[Axe]

You..didn't ask this with your jstern account?

Oops. 🤐

[999Guy]

Leonard is better but most of last year did nothing to prove it. The years leading up did.

There’s not really a situation I’d favor Durant in. Both have had insane supporting casts for their entire careers, but Kawhi carries loads better and his defensive potential helps a talented offensive teams ceiling more.

Durants mental and physical game is worse for playoff basketball.

Kawhi gets better in the playoffs and has a way higher defensive motor and ceiling.

[DJmicah]

Leonard if you want multiple rings, defense, clutch plays etc. Kinda like a kobe. Durant if you want a big scorer with better stats like tmac that MIGHT get you team success.

[Elosha]

This thread obviously implies that you consider lebron a point guard now.

Given that context, I think KD.

Having said that, who knows what he will be post achilles.

Not sure how you can say that when KD outplayed LeBron and won Finals MVP against him in 2017-18. KD was the best in those years, and Kawhi was clearly better and more impactful that LBJ last year. This year's up in the air both Leonard and LBJ played well, now that LeBron's got Davis to make the Lakers a contender again.

[SATAN]

Not sure how you can say that when KD outplayed LeBron and won Finals MVP against him in 2017-18. KD was the best in those years, and Kawhi was clearly better and more impactful that LBJ last year. This year's up in the air both Leonard and LBJ played well, now that LeBron's got Davis to make the Lakers a contender again.

You're an idiot.

[Duncan21formvp]

Not sure how you can say that when KD outplayed LeBron and won Finals MVP against him in 2017-18. KD was the best in those years, and Kawhi was clearly better and more impactful that LBJ last year. This year's up in the air both Leonard and LBJ played well, now that LeBron's got Davis to make the Lakers a contender again.

Exactly!!

[ELITEpower23]

Not sure how you can say that when KD outplayed LeBron and won Finals MVP against him in 2017-18. KD was the best in those years, and Kawhi was clearly better and more impactful that LBJ last year. This year's up in the air both Leonard and LBJ played well, now that LeBron's got Davis to make the Lakers a contender again.

2018 disagrees

https://i.ibb.co/2n8VdMZ/finals-best-5.png

Swap teams for KD and LBJ in 2017 and 2018. What happens?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi from 2016-present when healthy is the GOAT SF. Great shooting, scoring, defense, can lead your team in rebounds on a title run, can carry your team in scoring for playoff series, 4th quarter closer. No weaknesses, nobody can score on him or guard him and the highest all around impact.

[dbugz]

I'll go with KD and then Kawhi


and the other SF is like above average only.

[Lebron23]

You're an idiot.

That old man is just a terrible poster along side the two jabronis above me.

[ArbitraryWater]

Not sure how you can say that when KD outplayed LeBron and won Finals MVP against him in 2017-18. KD was the best in those years, and Kawhi was clearly better and more impactful that LBJ last year. This year's up in the air both Leonard and LBJ played well, now that LeBron's got Davis to make the Lakers a contender again.

LeBron was by far the best player in 2018, even more so than 2017 which already was sizeable.

Like, its not even close.

You'd be telling us your retarded saying KD was better than LeBron in 2018.

What LeBron did was unheard of and several leagues outside of KD is capable of.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

LeBron was by far the best player in 2018, even more so than 2017 which already was sizeable.

Like, its not even close.

You'd be telling us your retarded saying KD was better than LeBron in 2018.

What LeBron did was unheard of and several leagues outside of KD is capable of.

Getting swept in the finals is unheard of? LeBron did that in 2007 as well, its been done before.

[sdot_thadon]

Not your best work Op, considering Kd hasn't played in a year and no one knows how good he'll be post injury, and the fact Lebron has been categorically better than Kawhi this very season......

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Not your best work Op, considering Kd hasn't played in a year and no one knows how good he'll be post injury, and the fact Lebron has been categorically better than Kawhi this very season......

Kawhi beats LeBron in PPG, TS, BPM, WS/48 this season, clippers have a higher rated offense then Lakers despite Kawhi playing with Paul George a lot less then LeBron played with Anthony Davis.

[ELITEpower23]

Kawhi beats LeBron in PPG, TS, BPM, WS/48 this season, clippers have a higher rated offense then Lakers despite Kawhi playing with Paul George a lot less then LeBron played with Anthony Davis.

You know it's bad when you have to list WS/48 as one of the only three categories you're ahead in, AND you have been resting ALL season so yes of course your WS/48 should be better..

Kawhi Season 7: 27-7-5 (47/37/89)
LeBron Season 17: 26-11-7 (50/35/70)
Advantage: LeBron. He is only scoring 1 less point per game while leading the entire league in assists, and grabbing 2 more rebounds per game.

Kawhi: 116 ORtg, 104 DRtg , VORP: 4.6, BPM 9.0, PER 26.7, WS 7.6, TS 58%
LeBron: 117 ORtg, 105 DRtg, VORP: 5.7, BPM 8.7, PER 26.0, WS 9.5, TS 58%
Advantage: LeBron. He hasn't taken rest like Kawhi. Kawhi has missed 13 games. LeBron has missed 3. Season 17. 3 games missed. Season 7, 13 games missed. NO contest.

This is actually sad when you break it down. A 7th season, resting load managing Kawhi is still doing slightly less than a Season 17 no load management LeBron. Maybe next year tiger. This is what MJ would be like in the modern era. Slightly less than Season 17 LeBron.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You know it's bad when you have to list WS/48 as one of the only three categories you're ahead in, AND you have been resting ALL season so yes of course your WS/48 should be better..

Kawhi Season 7: 27-7-5 (47/37/89)
LeBron Season 17: 26-11-7 (50/35/70)
Advantage: LeBron. He is only scoring 1 less point per game while leading the entire league in assists, and grabbing 2 more rebounds per game.

Kawhi: 116 ORtg, 104 DRtg , VORP: 4.6, BPM 9.0, PER 26.7, WS 7.6, TS 58%
LeBron: 117 ORtg, 105 DRtg, VORP: 5.7, BPM 8.7, PER 26.0, WS 9.5, TS 58%
Advantage: LeBron. He hasn't taken rest like Kawhi. Kawhi has missed 13 games. LeBron has missed 3. Season 17. 3 games missed. Season 7, 13 games missed. NO contest.

This is actually sad when you break it down. A 7th season, resting load managing Kawhi is still doing slightly less than a Season 17 no load management LeBron. Maybe next year tiger. This is what MJ would be like in the modern era. Slightly less than Season 17 LeBron.

Basically LeBron is better at assists, while Kawhi is superior in every thing else. I don't see your point. Kawhi is leading a better offense with less help from his 2nd star in George to AD, which shows Kawhi is the more impactful offensive player despite getting less assists.

[ELITEpower23]

Basically LeBron is better at assists, while Kawhi is superior in every thing else. I don't see your point. Kawhi is leading a better offense with less help from his 2nd star in George to AD, which shows Kawhi is the more impactful offensive player despite getting less assists.

Basically Kawhi scores 1 more point and does everything else inferior while resting up and playing on a more stacked team.

Imagine comparing a peak prime player versus a year 17 player and still being slightly less than. Be better. I need you to.

[AussieSteve]

Basically LeBron is better at assists, while Kawhi is superior in every thing else. I don't see your point. Kawhi is leading a better offense with less help from his 2nd star in George to AD, which shows Kawhi is the more impactful offensive player despite getting less assists.

How is LeBron's offensive help better than Kawhi's? That's bonkers.

If someone is a better passer / facilitator / playmaker, then the stat sheet might give the illusion of them getting more offensive help when really they are creating their own help.

Kawhi doesn't create offense for others anywhere near as well as LeBron. LeBron gets his team mates buckets, and the haters claim it as some kind of knock on him because he has high scoring team mates. For example, LeBron bird feeds AD multiple buckets per games

[light]

LeBron is the best small forward in the NBA and he's also the best point guard in the NBA.

[ELITEpower23]

LeBron is the best small forward in the NBA and he's also the best point guard in the NBA.

Season 17 (LBJ) vs Season 7 (Kawhi) and still a few ticks better. Talk about a legend.

[Lion's pride]

Tatum … next question!

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Getting swept in the finals is unheard of? LeBron did that in 2007 as well, its been done before.


How is LeBron's offensive help better than Kawhi's? That's bonkers.

If someone is a better passer / facilitator / playmaker, then the stat sheet might give the illusion of them getting more offensive help when really they are creating their own help.

Kawhi doesn't create offense for others anywhere near as well as LeBron. LeBron gets his team mates buckets, and the haters claim it as some kind of knock on him because he has high scoring team mates. For example, LeBron bird feeds AD multiple buckets per games

But besides passing, he's not at better at 1 aspect of basketball. So overall Kawhi wins.

[Turbo Slayer]

Not your best work Op, considering Kd hasn't played in a year and no one knows how good he'll be post injury, and the fact Lebron has been categorically better than Kawhi this very season......
LeBron is a PG this season so he does not count.

[AussieSteve]

But besides passing, he's not at better at 1 aspect of basketball. So overall Kawhi wins.

Literally the only thing that Kawhi has shown that he can do is turn a conference finals calibre team into a title contender.

The raptors won 59 games with demar instead of kawhi. Thet are on 59 win pace again this season. They were already still are a great team without him.

Same deal this season with the Clippers. Add Paul George to a ~50 win team and you have a conference finals calibre team. Even without Kawhi. Kawhi has it easy.

[Axe]

Literally the only thing that Kawhi has shown that he can do is turn a conference finals calibre team into a title contender.

The raptors won 59 games with demar instead of kawhi. Thet are on 59 win pace again this season. They were already still are a great team without him.

Same deal this season with the Clippers. Add Paul George to a ~50 win team and you have a conference finals calibre team. Even without Kawhi. Kawhi has it easy.
But kawhi makes winning a chip a possible task, isn't it?

[Walk on Water]

LeBron is the best small forward in the NBA and he's also the best point guard in the NBA.


Lebron is still better than half the league so I give him credit at his age.

[999Guy]

Literally the only thing that Kawhi has shown that he can do is turn a conference finals calibre team into a title contender.

The raptors won 59 games with demar instead of kawhi. Thet are on 59 win pace again this season. They were already still are a great team without him.

Same deal this season with the Clippers. Add Paul George to a ~50 win team and you have a conference finals calibre team. Even without Kawhi. Kawhi has it easy.

Kawhis rings mean absolutely nothing.

What he did in the 2017 playoffs says way more about what he is capable of and than 2019.

[999Guy]

By the way HBK, Kawhi is very likely to lose this coming season.

You’ve been talking shit and being delusional about Leonard and you think it’s cute right now but LeBron with the type of supporting cast and coaching he has now is essentially unbeatable unless you really load the deck like the KD Warriors.

Kawhi has got cancers and exploitable players much like CP3 had in LAC with Lou Williams being the Crawford and Harrell being the Griffin.

Not to mention just useless cones like Morris and slow footed Zubac who is decent in the right matchups I will say.

Paul George is a hot/cold pure shooter who loses his legs at the end of series.

It’s a perfect CP3/Peyton Manning talented but flawed roster that will flame out despite Kawhi covering up weaknesses.

Not to mention Milwaukee is better too.

Perfect playoff run to make him look just a little worse than people think, and a lot worse than you say.

[Drygon]

Literally the only thing that Kawhi has shown that he can do is turn a conference finals calibre team into a title contender.

The raptors won 59 games with demar instead of kawhi. Thet are on 59 win pace again this season. They were already still are a great team without him.

Same deal this season with the Clippers. Add Paul George to a ~50 win team and you have a conference finals calibre team. Even without Kawhi. Kawhi has it easy.

The 2017-18 Raptors had a better season record than the 2018-19 Raptors.

However, which one of those teams did better in the playoffs again?

Regular season success does not always translate to playoff success.

Raptors were a massive underachievers in playoffs until Kawhi arrived.



LeBron was by far the best player in 2018, even more so than 2017 which already was sizeable.

Like, its not even close.

You'd be telling us your retarded saying KD was better than LeBron in 2018.

What LeBron did was unheard of and several leagues outside of KD is capable of.


Eh, Playoff Kawhi was clearly better than LeBorn & KD in 2017.



2017 playoffs


Box Scores:

- Kawhi Leonard: 27.7/7.8/4.6 on shooting splits 52/45/93 with 16.8 FGA
- LeBron James: 32.8/9.1/7.8 on shooting splits 56.5/41.1/69.8 with 21.3 FGA
- Steph Curry: 28.1/6.2/6.7 on shooting splits 48.4/41.9/90.4 with 18.4 FGA
- Kevin Durant: 28.5/7.9/4.3 on shooting splits 55.6/44.2/89.3 with 17.9 FGA

Advanced Stats:

- Kawhi Leonard: 67.2% TS, 0.314 WS/48, 10.5 OBPM, 3.7 DBPM, 14.2 BPM
- LeBron James: 64.9% TS, 0.275 WS/48, 7.7 OBPM, 2.1 DBPM, 9.8 BPM
- Steph Curry: 65.9% TS, 0.272 WS/48, 8.3 OBPM, 1.4 DBPM, 9.7 BPM
- Kevin Durant: 68.3% TS, 0.280 WS/48, 8.2 OBPM, 1.7 DBPM, 9.9 BPM

[ArbitraryWater]

Do you notice LeBron scoring 5 more points on even (far) higher percentages than Kawhi?

Yeah, thats where the comparison was over.

[Drygon]

Do you notice LeBron scoring 5 more points on even (far) higher percentages than Kawhi?

Yeah, thats where the comparison was over.

LeBron also took way more FGA than Kawhi, quite expected that he scores few more points...

Kawhi can shoot from everywhere & is a superior all-around shooter unlike LeBron.

[tpols]

LeBron also took way more FGA than Kawhi, quite expected that he scores few more points...

Kawhi can shoot from everywhere & is a superior all-around shooter unlike LeBron.

time of possesion too.

Lebron's is double that of kawhi, which doesnt allow ball handling non shooters like siakam to thrive. (or guys that like to touch the ball ~ marc gasol van vleet)

so the raptors couldve never reached their cieling with Lebron as they did with Kawhi. First year instant champs.

Lebron has never won on the first year of a team hop.

[Turbo Slayer]

time of possesion too.

Lebron's is double that of kawhi, which doesnt allow ball handling non shooters like siakam to thrive. (or guys that like to touch the ball ~ marc gasol van vleet)

so the raptors couldve never reached their cieling with Lebron as they did with Kawhi. First year instant champs.

Lebron has never won on the first year of a team hop. No.

[HylianNightmare]

Kawhi right now

[Turbo Slayer]

LeBron is a PG so he is not in the conversation for best SF. Kawhi would be my pick right now.

[RogueBorg]

Getting swept in the finals is unheard of? LeBron did that in 2007 as well, its been done before.

LeBron couldn't steal one game in two different Finals? Hell, even Iverson stole one against the Dynasty Lakers.

[Lebron23]

LeBron couldn't steal one game in two different Finals? Hell, even Iverson stole one against the Dynasty Lakers.

Hard to win a finals game if Kevin Love was your 2nd scoring option.

[deathawaitu]

Kawhi for now, but if KD can get back to his usual form than it would be him.

Can't go wrong with either 1-2. Lebron sits comfortable as the best 3rd SF

[Bronbron23]

Paul George isn’t in the conversation because he’s a shooting guard now. Funny how KD said George was better than Leonard. George has gotten better and yet Leonard is so much better now.

So who is better between KD and Kawhi? I think that Leonard has a better all around game but KD is more dominating.

So who is better for winning? I think it depends on the situations. KD could never go all the way with Westbrook. They would make it far but could never get over the hump. Leonard on the other hand won with the Raptors. That’s pretty impressive to just join a team and win. But then again, KD has beaten the Spurs and he beat Leonard when the Spurs won 67 games.

I don’t have an answer. I would say KD is better when he’s hot, but Leonard is more consistent and better all around because of his defense. When I say all around I don’t mean overall, I just mean his game is more balanced.

In order for Leonard to score as much as KD, I would think it would hurt his team because he would have to work harder for his shots and that would throw them out of rhythm. But KD has averaged 32 points when he had to be the man, without Russell. I don’t think Leonard could do that. But I also feel Leonard has better defense. So comparing them is close.

assuming bron is a point gaurd and not in this convo its definitely kawhi. Kd is gonna b 32 coming of a Achilles injury

[HBK_Kliq_2]

By the way HBK, Kawhi is very likely to lose this coming season.

You’ve been talking shit and being delusional about Leonard and you think it’s cute right now but LeBron with the type of supporting cast and coaching he has now is essentially unbeatable unless you really load the deck like the KD Warriors.

Kawhi has got cancers and exploitable players much like CP3 had in LAC with Lou Williams being the Crawford and Harrell being the Griffin.

Not to mention just useless cones like Morris and slow footed Zubac who is decent in the right matchups I will say.

Paul George is a hot/cold pure shooter who loses his legs at the end of series.

It’s a perfect CP3/Peyton Manning talented but flawed roster that will flame out despite Kawhi covering up weaknesses.

Not to mention Milwaukee is better too.

Perfect playoff run to make him look just a little worse than people think, and a lot worse than you say.

Double team Anthony Davis in the paint, play LeBron 1 on 1 with Kawhi/George. Nobody else on Lakers can create for themselves in a playoff series.

Kawhi goes off for 35PPG, George 23PPG, Harrell 18PPG.

I still see clippers taking the series. LeBron doesn't seem like the scorer he once was and he has the 2 best defenders you can possibly have on him.

It will be Kawhi's biggest challenge but if he can beat Embiid/Butler with 7 teammates shooting worse then 45% FG. I'm sure he can beat LeBron/Davis with a little bit of help. Lakers LeBron seems like he has lost a step in his athletic ability too.

[Axe]

Kd is best at his rehab

[Drygon]

LeBron is a PG so he is not in the conversation for best SF. Kawhi would be my pick right now.

LeBron is a point forward, which he has been in his entire career.

Scottie Pippen played in that role and noone says he's a point guard...

[Turbo Slayer]

LeBron is a point forward, which he has been in his entire career.

Scottie Pippen played in that role and noone says he's a point guard... OP, I'm confused. Are you comparing their careers or right now?

[Axe]

LeBron is a point forward, which he has been in his entire career.
Yet kd is bigger...

[FKAri]

Yet kd is bigger...

Let's just say there's a reason KD's considered a "small" forward while Lebron, isn't. I'll leave it at that.

[Axe]

Let's just say there's a reason KD's considered a "small" forward while Lebron, isn't. I'll leave it at that.
Didn't ask for your crappy opinion rt but okay...

[light]

LeBron is a PG so he is not in the conversation for best SF. Kawhi would be my pick right now.

Yet, even as a PG he's still a better SF than both. The fact that he's leading the league in assists as a PG is an indication of what makes him better than both. He's just a better player regardless of what position he's playing.

[BigShotBob]

Yet, even as a PG he's still a better SF than both. The fact that he's leading the league in assists as a PG is an indication of what makes him better than both. He's just a better player regardless of what position he's playing.

Nah Kawhi and KD and Giannis are all better than Lebron sorry.

[light]

Nah Kawhi and KD and Giannis are all better than Lebron sorry.

They're not because they all have major holes in their game while LeBron is complete. And they're all dumber than he is from an IQ perspective. They're still playing checkers.

[BigShotBob]

They're not because they all have major holes in their game while LeBron is complete. And they're all dumber than he is from an IQ perspective. They're still playing checkers.

Not even close.

Kawhi is a better defender than Lebron has ever been and a better shooter.

KD is a better scorer in every way except finishing at the rim. But in every other facet he's better and even defensively he's surpassed him already and he might be a better rebounder.

Giannis is a better finisher and defender at the rim. He was on pace to win MVP and DPOY this very season.

[light]

Not even close.

Kawhi is a better defender than Lebron has ever been and a better shooter.

KD is a better scorer in every way except finishing at the rim. But in every other facet he's better and even defensively he's surpassed him already and he might be a better rebounder.

Giannis is a better finisher and defender at the rim. He was on pace to win MVP and DPOY this very season.

Nope. LeBron is good at everything. They are not good at everything.

All of them are rudimentary passers that have have lower IQs. In addition, Giannis can't shoot, KD can't defend and Kawhi can't lead.

LeBron is a better defender than Kawhi this year and at their peak LeBron was a better defender overall.

Giannis was only on pace for MVP because of wins. If the Lakers had the same record LeBron would be MVP (he may still be MVP anyway). Defensively, LeBron on Giannis > Giannis on LeBron.

And Durant is not a better scorer than LeBron, he just has more scoring titles.

Look, all three have been trying to be LeBron for years and they all come up short. There is only one LeBron.

[ImKobe]

Nope. LeBron is good at everything. They are not good at everything.

All of them are rudimentary passers that have have lower IQs. In addition, Giannis can't shoot, KD can't defend and Kawhi can't lead.

LeBron is a better defender than Kawhi this year and at their peak LeBron was a better defender overall.

Giannis was only on pace for MVP because of wins. If the Lakers had the same record LeBron would be MVP (he may still be MVP anyway). Defensively, LeBron on Giannis > Giannis on LeBron.

And Durant is not a better scorer than LeBron, he just has more scoring titles.

Look, all three have been trying to be LeBron for years and they all come up short. There is only one LeBron.

False. Giannis put up insane numbers (30/14/6 in under 31 mpg) and led his team to the best record without a superstar teammate and went 9 - 0 without his 2nd option in the process. Giannis is arguably both MVP and DPOY. Lebron has a teammate that's leading his team in almost every stat. Giannis simply has a much better case.

[It'sTheVibe]

first of all a very good question.

to be honest it's a toss up between these two world class bastketball players.

i think the answer lies in who has the better IQ ( offensive and defensive)

[Axe]

Nope. LeBron is good at everything. They are not good at everything.

All of them are rudimentary passers that have have lower IQs. In addition, Giannis can't shoot, KD can't defend and Kawhi can't lead.

LeBron is a better defender than Kawhi this year and at their peak LeBron was a better defender overall.

Giannis was only on pace for MVP because of wins. If the Lakers had the same record LeBron would be MVP (he may still be MVP anyway). Defensively, LeBron on Giannis > Giannis on LeBron.

And Durant is not a better scorer than LeBron, he just has more scoring titles.

Look, all three have been trying to be LeBron for years and they all come up short. There is only one LeBron.
Seemingly as a big dickrider of him you are, lebron is also good at losing games right?

[Drygon]

Yet, even as a PG he's still a better SF than both. The fact that he's leading the league in assists as a PG is an indication of what makes him better than both. He's just a better player regardless of what position he's playing.


Neither Kawhi or KD is the main ball-handler on their teams.

Of course LeBron is produce way more assists than them.

Both KD & Kawhi are superior shooters & can play off-the-ball.

And Kawhi case, he's much better defender than LeBron.

I doubt LeBron could guard Giannis well in playoffs like Kawhi did.

[ELITEpower23]

https://i.postimg.cc/SRhWgGSB/j4byroq2z5231-1.jpg

Silence

[Boarman1]

Since we know Bron is the King, I'll go with Kawhi

He has better defense and is more consistent, I also know Kawhi can carry a team to the finals

KD is more dominant and the better scorer, but after the move to the Warriors, I don't trust his mentality

Kawhi has that killer insintct in him

[pauk]

Today? I am leaning more towards Kawhi, considering KD hasnt been his prime self, injured.

PS: Lebron isnt a SF, dunno wtf he is imo... this season he was at PG.... he does & dominates whatever the *** he wants / team needs, PG-SG-SF-PF... he has some minutes at Center aswell lol.... players like Magic & Lebron i think is disrespectful to call by one position, i mean they were MUCH more than ONE position.... they did MORE than what that one position would traditionally require from a player.... they would often even rotate to another role/position mid-game depending on offensive or defensive matchups...

[BigShotBob]

Today? I am leaning more towards Kawhi, considering KD hasnt been his prime self, injured.

PS: Lebron isnt a SF, dunno wtf he is imo... this season he was at PG.... he does & dominates whatever the *** he wants / team needs, PG-SG-SF-PF... he has some minutes at Center aswell lol.... players like Magic & Lebron i think is disrespectful to call by one position, i mean they were MUCH more than ONE position.... they did MORE than what that one position would traditionally require from a player.... they would often even rotate to another role/position mid-game depending on offensive or defensive matchups...

Lebron can never play SG or C at an elite level.

[Axe]

Since we know Bron is the King, I'll go with Kawhi

He has better defense and is more consistent, I also know Kawhi can carry a team to the finals

KD is more dominant and the better scorer, but after the move to the Warriors, I don't trust his mentality

Kawhi has that killer insintct in him
That's why kd may never become a champion once again

[999Guy]

By the way HBK, Kawhi is very likely to lose this coming season.

You’ve been talking shit and being delusional about Leonard and you think it’s cute right now but LeBron with the type of supporting cast and coaching he has now is essentially unbeatable unless you really load the deck like the KD Warriors.

Kawhi has got cancers and exploitable players much like CP3 had in LAC with Lou Williams being the Crawford and Harrell being the Griffin.

Not to mention just useless cones like Morris and slow footed Zubac who is decent in the right matchups I will say.

Paul George is a hot/cold pure shooter who loses his legs at the end of series.

It’s a perfect CP3/Peyton Manning talented but flawed roster that will flame out despite Kawhi covering up weaknesses.

Not to mention Milwaukee is better too.

Perfect playoff run to make him look just a little worse than people think, and a lot worse than you say.

Oh hey look what happened :eek:


But I’d still take Kawhi over KD in any series

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

KD by far

he was lighting him up on one leg last year and was the best player on the floor before he got injured

[dreamwarrior]

KD is unguardable like Shaq was. The only person who can beat him is himself

[light]

LeBron is the best small forward, the best power forward and the best point guard in the league.

[Axe]

LeBron is the best small forward, the best power forward and the best point guard in the league.
Like, can he play all three positions at once? :rolleyes:

[AlternativeAcc.]

So many foolish morons bought the Kawhit hype

Yikes

[Kiddlovesnets]

A healthy KD at 100% is better than Kawhi, but if he can be no more than 80% after recovering from a career-threatening surgery, then Kawhi will be better than him. Durant destroyed Kawhi in 2016 and could've done the same in 2019 if he wasnt injured, Durant was effectively in God mode before he injured himself due to fatigue. The top 5 SF when healthy and 100% are:

1. Kevin Durant
2. Kawhi Leonard
3. Lebron James
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Jayson Tatum

[Shooter]

A healthy KD at 100% is better than Kawhi, but if he can be no more than 80% after recovering from a career-threatening surgery, then Kawhi will be better than him. Durant destroyed Kawhi in 2016 and could've done the same in 2019 if he wasnt injured, Durant was effectively in God mode before he injured himself due to fatigue. The top 5 SF when healthy and 100% are:

1. Kevin Durant
2. Kawhi Leonard
3. Lebron James
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Jayson Tatum

No Yanny?

[Shooter]

LeBron is the league's best:

PG
SF
PF

Dont try to name better

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[Kiddlovesnets]

No Yanny?

Hes a PF.

[GimmeThat]

Lebron can never play SG or C at an elite level.

had he played for the Suns an the Magics, he could have

[Walk on Water]

LeBron is the league's best:

PG
SF
PF

Dont try to name better

Next

But I think Durant has proven he’s the best player in the league when healthy.