Barry Bonds 73 home runs in the 2001 MLB Season.

[Lebron23]

It's still one of the best performance in mlb history. He used performance enchancement drugs just like majority of the baseball superstars in his era. But none of them had 73 home runs.

[hiphopanonymous]

Objectively speaking I'm curious what you and other people find more impressive, Bonds 73 home runs which was certainly accomplished with drugs or Babe Ruth's 60 which was certainly accomplished without?

[Lebron23]

Objectively speaking I'm curious what you and other people find more impressive, Bonds 73 home runs which was certainly accomplished with drugs or Babe Ruth's 60 which was certainly accomplished without?

60 home runs was still amazing. Some of the pitchers during barry bonds era were probably using steroids.

[hiphopanonymous]

60 home runs was still amazing. Some of the pitchers during barry bonds era were probably using steroids.

Are they better or worse, or comparable would you say? Yes I agree a number of the pitchers were probably also roiding

[Lebron23]

Are they better or worse, or comparable would you say? Yes I agree a number of the pitchers were probably also roiding

Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time. I think he and Roger Maris could hit 70 or more home runs in the 1990's. By the way Bonds, Sosa, and Mcgwire made baseball more exciting in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

[Stanley Kobrick]

i personally enjoyed the McGuire vs Sosa battle more than the Bonds run

[Hittin_Shots]

Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time. I think he and Roger Maris could hit 70 or more home runs in the 1990's. By the way Bonds, Sosa, and Mcgwire made baseball more exciting in the late 1990's and early 2000's.

Baseball... exciting??

[Lebron23]

Baseball... exciting??

It's an acquired taste.

[1987_Lakers]

I actually bumped into Barry Bonds in SF like 3 years ago. He was nice to me, but others who had encounters with him say he is a real douche.

[Rico2016]

*3ball enters the chat

HOW MANY GAMES DOE?!

[AlternativeAcc.]

Most feared hitter in history by far

Barry "big stick" Bonds was a true legend. The NBA comparison is peak Shaq. Both were so feared they were walked on purpose or fouled on purpose more than anyone else

I doubt we'll ever see another power hitter as good as Bonds ever again.

[Pointguard]

Barry Bonds used to hit those little dribblers by the short stop. He used to hit for average then in one year his head got really fat and he was hitting homeruns.

[SouBeachTalents]

I wish they'd bring steroids back to baseball, from 1998-2004 I liked baseball as much as I did football & basketball. After the steroid era ended, I gradually lost interest with each passing year, and it's reached a point now where I barely even watch 2-3 games a year on TV. Going to games is still mad fun, though god knows when the fck that'll be again.

2001 was an amazing baseball season. Bonds breaks the HR record, Mariners win 116 games, the Yankees have that incredible comeback against the A's, then what's been by far the greatest World Series I've ever seen

[SouBeachTalents]

Some of my favorite Bonds moments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQeJ8YQuqh8

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol2_UkJS6kw

[SouBeachTalents]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi7IPZAcP78

[tpols]

Bonds was like Shaq. except walks were > 50% FTs.

they had to hack-a-barry to have a chance lol.

He was a marvel, i dont care about roids everybody did it.

[warriorfan]

Bonds was like Shaq. except walks were > 50% FTs.

they had to hack-a-barry to have a chance lol.

He was a marvel, i dont care about roids everybody did it.

Barry was a savant level student of the game. He had a mind for baseball and loved the psychological aspect of it. One of the main reasons he was the most successful hitters to ever play was his ability to read and predict pitchers.

[tpols]

How GOAT was Bonds hitting balls into that McCovey cove in san fran.

:roll:

i remember being young and seeing all the guys in boats fight over the ball.

[tpols]

Barry was a savant level student of the game. He had a mind for baseball and loved the psychological aspect of it. One of the main reasons he was the most successful hitters to ever play was his ability to read and predict pitchers.


Dr. Bill Harrison, an eye specialist who works with athletes, claims that in 50 years of testing athlete's eyes Barry Bonds had far and away the best visual acuity he had ever seen. He had a rare mix of being able to see pitches deep in the zone and more importantly out of the pitcher's hand that has no one else can duplicate. He scored the absolute highest in depth perception, contrast acuity, visual acuity, eye alignment, and eye muscle vergence skills, and this combination of skills enabled him to draw walks and swing only at pitches in his zone.

...people act like any meathead could do what he did.

[warriorfan]

How GOAT was Bonds hitting balls into that McCovey cove in san fran.

:roll:

i remember being young and seeing all the guys in boats fight over the ball.

A+ sports theatrics right there.

Since the ballparks conception 20 years ago. there has been 81 balls hit into the bay. Barry did it 35 times.


...people act like any meathead could do what he did.

Barry Bonds always brings out guys with the most ignorant takes.

[Meticode]

The 1994 Strike took my interest out of baseball. It was insane to me that they could suspend a season when almost 3/4 of the season was done over a work stoppage. The World Series was cancelled that year (first time since 1904).

What finally killed baseball for me is when it came out that players like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, etc were all using PEDs. People can throw out there that everyone was using PEDs, but we all know that's not true. Was it a large percentage? Yep, but it took the authenticity away from me because even if other players were using them, it doesn't give anyone the right to do it themselves and tarnish the accomplishments of players in the past like Bonds did with the homerun recording beating Hammerin' Hank.

Ryan Braun's situation was disgusting.

[warriorfan]

The 1994 Strike took my interest out of baseball. It was insane to me that they could suspend a season when almost 3/4 of the season was done over a work stoppage. The World Series was cancelled that year (first time since 1904).

What finally killed baseball for me is when it came out that players like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, etc were all using PEDs. People can throw out there that everyone was using PEDs, but we all know that's not true. Was it a large percentage? Yep, but it took the authenticity away from me because even if other players were using them, it doesn't give anyone the right to do it themselves and tarnish the accomplishments of players in the past like Bonds did with the homerun recording beating Hammerin' Hank.

Ryan Braun's situation was disgusting.

How do you feel about Hank Aaron using amphetamines?

[tpols]

The craziest thing about barry bonds to me is he stole 514 bases.

Mark McGwire only had 12 in 5000+ at bats!

:biggums:

barry was clearly a next level genius and athlete at the game in a way other roiders were not.

[warriorfan]

The craziest thing about barry bonds to me is he stole 514 bases.

Mark McGwire only had 12 in 5000+ at bats!

:biggums:

barry was clearly a next level genius and athlete at the game in a way other roiders were not.

People don’t realize that pre steroid Barry was already the GOAT...Sosa, McGuire, and lesser players started roiding and coming out of nowhere and Barry got even...After that he became the Super GOAT.

In the book Game of Shadows it talks about it in detail. Bonds being competitive and taking pride in the best got pissed off when he started seeing Sosa, a way lesser player in his eyes, going off. He then got in contact with his old buddy Greg Anderson and the rest is history. The book is a great read about Barry Bonds, Balco, Olympic doping and doping in professional sports.

[Rico2016]

I am a Dodger's fan and even I say Barry Bonds is the greatest to ever play.

[Im Still Ballin]

Bonds is easily the baseball GOAT.

Can't wait until the old reporters and media heads die so he can get inducted...

[Lebron23]

They are talking about him right now on sportscenter.

[Lebron23]

The thing about Barry Bonds he was winning league mvp at 37, 38 39 40

[LoneyROY7]

The thing about Barry Bonds he was winning league mvp at 37, 38 39 40

Steroids are a hell of a drug.

[Lebron23]

Steroids are a hell of a drug.

Indeed

[highwhey]

Indeed

:cheers:

[bladefd]

The 1994 Strike took my interest out of baseball. It was insane to me that they could suspend a season when almost 3/4 of the season was done over a work stoppage. The World Series was cancelled that year (first time since 1904).

What finally killed baseball for me is when it came out that players like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, etc were all using PEDs. People can throw out there that everyone was using PEDs, but we all know that's not true. Was it a large percentage? Yep, but it took the authenticity away from me because even if other players were using them, it doesn't give anyone the right to do it themselves and tarnish the accomplishments of players in the past like Bonds did with the homerun recording beating Hammerin' Hank.

Ryan Braun's situation was disgusting.

Players like Derek Jeter were amazing without roiding it up so I respect those sort of players who did things the right way and still played damn good

[Spurs m8]

Posting in LeBrons career thread

[ShawkFactory]

He is on the short list of greatest players ever. His overall HR title annoys the shit out of the me though.

People can make a somewhat reasonable argument and say that everyone at the time was using them, but without them there is no way he is hitting 45+ HRs every eyar into his 40s, and there's no way he's the all time HR king.

It's still Hank.

[72-10]

I actually bumped into Barry Bonds in SF like 3 years ago. He was nice to me, but others who had encounters with him say he is a real douche.

understand Bonds went around a lot on a bike to lose weight

[72-10]

Sosa's season was more impressive and Sosa should have won MVP

personally rank Bonds about 6th best batter after Ruth, Williams, DiMaggio, Gehrig and Pujols and maybe Cabrera

he's a Cobb

[ShawkFactory]

Sosa's season was more impressive and Sosa should have won MVP

personally rank Bonds about 6th best batter after Ruth, Williams, DiMaggio, Gehrig and Pujols and maybe Cabrera

he's a Cobb

How...

[72-10]

How...

First of all, right-handed batting is more difficult than left-handed batting, and despite this Sosa batted for a higher average than Bonds, drove in far more runs than Bonds with a comparably poor batting order in front of him, scored more runs than Bonds with a comparably poor batting order behind him, played all 162 games, and despite typically being a poorer fielder than Bonds, this was clearly Sosa's best year in the field, so he was actually as good in the field this season if not better, and left field is the easiest position to play on the ball field, and right field at Wrigley is difficult to play, Sosa, known for his arm, also cut down runners at the plate at a personal best rate outplaying Bonds in this regard. Sosa set all-time Major League Baseball records for Runs Batted In from Second Base in a Season and 2-Out Runs Batted In in a Season. Always being able to bat in runners in scoring position makes a player so valuable as a batter that hardly anything is comparable. Bonds also played at Coors Field (9 games to Sosa's 3) much more than most players in the league (anyone outside the NL West) did. All Bonds did was hit 9 more home runs. Sosa cheated less, too. He saw better pitching on the season than Bonds. Bonds was often given a ball and pitches to hit on occasion. Additionally, the NL Central was the toughest division in baseball that season with perhaps the best overall pitching even if you exclude the Cubs. Also, Bonds tended to pull the ball while Sosa went opposite field - pulling the ball is easier than going other field and going other field requires more strength in addition to being more in tune with timing and coordination. The MVP was gift-wrapped to Bonds. Should have been Sosa's.

OPS: Sosa 1.174, Bonds 1.379
HR: Sosa 64, Bonds 73
RBI: Sosa 160, Bonds 137
Runs: Sosa 146, Bonds 129
Batting Average: Sosa .328, Bonds .328

[And1AllDay]

The craziest thing about barry bonds to me is he stole 514 bases.

Mark McGwire only had 12 in 5000+ at bats!

:biggums:

barry was clearly a next level genius and athlete at the game in a way other roiders were not.

also craziest shit was bonds has most walks for top 3 highest single seasons. 3 highest walks for a season are all barry b. pitchers were shook :oldlol:

and he has most all time career walks, single best hr season of 73 jacks ,and most all time hr

he has it alll

insert 'but how many games doe?!!11!!??' :oldlol:

[72-10]

The craziest thing about barry bonds to me is he stole 514 bases.

Mark McGwire only had 12 in 5000+ at bats!

:biggums:

barry was clearly a next level genius and athlete at the game in a way other roiders were not.

Sosa did that in 1993 and 1995, one of the very few players in either league to reach 30 stolen bases and 30 home runs in the same.

[ShawkFactory]

First of all, right-handed batting is more difficult than left-handed batting, and despite this Sosa batted for a higher average than Bonds, drove in far more runs than Bonds with a comparably poor batting order in front of him, scored more runs than Bonds with a comparably poor batting order behind him, played all 162 games, and despite typically being a poorer fielder than Bonds, this was clearly Sosa's best year in the field, so he was actually as good in the field this season if not better, and left field is the easiest position to play on the ball field, and right field at Wrigley is difficult to play, Sosa, known for his arm, also cut down runners at the plate at a personal best rate outplaying Bonds in this regard. Sosa set all-time Major League Baseball records for Runs Batted In from Second Base in a Season and 2-Out Runs Batted In in a Season. Always being able to bat in runners in scoring position makes a player so valuable as a batter that hardly anything is comparable. Bonds also played at Coors Field (9 games to Sosa's 3) much more than most players in the league (anyone outside the NL West) did. All Bonds did was hit 9 more home runs. Sosa cheated less, too. He saw better pitching on the season than Bonds. Bonds was often given a ball and pitches to hit on occasion. Additionally, the NL Central was the toughest division in baseball that season with perhaps the best overall pitching even if you exclude the Cubs. Also, Bonds tended to pull the ball while Sosa went opposite field - pulling the ball is easier than going other field and going other field requires more strength in addition to being more in tune with timing and coordination. The MVP was gift-wrapped to Bonds. Should have been Sosa's.

OPS: Sosa 1.174, Bonds 1.379
HR: Sosa 64, Bonds 73
RBI: Sosa 160, Bonds 137
Runs: Sosa 146, Bonds 129
Batting Average: Sosa .328, Bonds .328

Never mention RBIs in a baseball discussion. They are purely circumstantial and aren't even mentioned when talking about a guys numbers anymore.

Look at what a hitter can control. Sosa had a 1.202 OPS with runners in scoring position that year, which is obviously amazing. But Bonds had a 1.594 OPS in such situations. Absolutely outrageous.

In 163 plate appearances with runners in scoring position (Sosa had 217 plate appearances with RISP) Bonds was walked 71 times. It's hard to accumulate runs driven in when you're walked almost half of the time you have an opportunity to.

Bonds walked 83 more times than he struck out that year. Sosa struck out 37 more times than he walked. That shit adds up.

Further, Bonds had a .204 OPS advantage. 204! For example: a .900 OPS guy right now is an all star...a .696 OPS guy is a replacement level player. That was the difference between them.

Your categorical outlining means nothing. It's equivalent to this when comparing NBA players:

Rebounds: Player A- 8.2, Player B- 7.7
Assists: Player A- 6.7, Player B- 6.1
TS%: Player A- .598, Player B- 596
Steals- Player A- 1.9, Player B- 1.2
Points- Player A- 35.2, Player B- 46.5

Yea...Player A has the slight advantage in 4 of the 5. The glaring difference is there though.