Will Damian Lillard ever win a championship with the Blazers?

[Turbo Slayer]

If you say no, explain your reasoning.

[Bronbron23]

If you say no, explain your reasoning.

no. In general players his size dont win chips as the man. In the last 30 plus years only 2 guys have.

[Turbo Slayer]

It's a shame because Dame signed a 5 year contract with the Blazers in June 2019 with no player option. So by the end of his contract he would be 34 years old and become a UFA.

He's wasting his prime and his peak with the Blazers.

If he is still awesome at 34 years old he should go to a contending team (think big market teams) to win a title immediately like Garnett and Allen did in 2008 and sacrifice his money.

Garnett was 30 before he went to BOS and Allen was 31 before he went to BOS so it's not so far-fetched that Dame could do that type of move too.

If he doesn't, well Dame will likely retire ringless with his shooting ability and slashing wasted.

[Whoah10115]

Depends on the team. Carmelo has done well, which shouldn't be a surprise. But imagine if they did get Kevin Love, with Nurkic back healthy? They could have Carmelo off the bench, with that backcourt and great great defender at the 3. With Kevin Love there they wouldn't even need that great defender to be capable of shooting.

[Uncle Drew]

This question is wrong. The correct question would be whether the Blazers would ever win with Lillard. The answer is no, you won’t win behind one of the most overrated playoff performers in a life time. Dame Time, what a joke.

[Turbo Slayer]

To be fair though Dame was on bad teams the majority of his time in Portland.

[Whoah10115]

This question is wrong. The correct question would be whether the Blazers would ever win with Lillard. The answer is no, you won’t win behind one of the most overrated playoff performers in a life time. Dame Time, what a joke.

:roll:

Imagine if he were underrated. Haha

[Wally450]

I say no because PG's as your lead man are hard to win championships with. I also consider Dame to be very overrated.

[fsvr54]

This question is wrong. The correct question would be whether the Blazers would ever win with Lillard. The answer is no, you won’t win behind one of the most overrated playoff performers in a life time. Dame Time, what a joke.

This. Jrue Holiday made the Portland backcourt his bitch.

[tpols]

Dame is somewhat overrated as a playoff performer... his efficiency is just above average a little, and defense is poor. He has a negative career differential.

For comparison's sake, Curry is probably the star closest to his playstyle and he has a huge positive differential, way better offense and defense.

[BigShotBob]

He was lucky that CJ McCollum bailed him out against the Nuggets but as long as Steph is in the same conference as him he'll never get past him and the Warriors. Period.

[Whoah10115]

All he does is play with skills and balls and to win, rather than get numbers.

Underrated player. If I had to win a playoff series, apart from Curry and maybe still Paul, no other PG in the discussion...or guard.

[Uncle Drew]

This. Jrue Holiday made the Portland backcourt his bitch.

Yep. His playoff resume isn't bad. It's godawful. Iverson levels in terms of (in)efficiency as well, barely manages to shoot more than 40%. He got carried big time in a Game 7 on the road, and otherwise he gets shat on by Curry every year. But hey, he beat the buzzer twice so he's a legendary postseason player. Ha.

[tpols]

All he does is play with skills and balls and to win, rather than get numbers.

Underrated player. If I had to win a playoff series, apart from Curry and maybe still Paul, no other PG in the discussion...or guard.

kyrie would outplay him too in the playoffs.

Not only is he a better shooter, he's a much, much better finisher and midrange player.

and i like dame def top 5 PG for me.

[imdaman99]

Not on the Blazers. They don't have the talent to win a ring. He is definitely a good player with a couple of amazing clutch moments in the 1st round but he's usually a non-factor after that.

[Axe]

He wouldn't unless his teammates play more competitively.

And I'm not sure if there are players in that team who are prominent enough outside of lillard.

[Whoah10115]

kyrie would outplay him too in the playoffs.

Not only is he a better shooter, he's a much, much better finisher and midrange player.

and i like dame def top 5 PG for me.

You mean if Durant is 100% and therefore Brooklyn 's best player?

Because if not, then Lillard will do to Kyrie what he did to Westbrook.

And for those unaware, Portland beat OKC, first and foremost, because Lillard beat Westbrook.

And they got to the WCF after besting the #1 seed. Without Nurkic.

McCollum is all-star caliber, but on the fringes. They don't have a top 20 player besides Lillard, and while they had a strong bench they have areas they need to upgrade in order to have a chance.

And yet still...maybe if Aldridge comes back, maybe if they get Love and he wants to be an all-star again (free agent).

Lillard is no lower than top 7, player in the NBA.

[Turbo Slayer]

He was lucky that CJ McCollum bailed him out against the Nuggets but as long as Steph is in the same conference as him he'll never get past him and the Warriors. Period.

How about the first 6 games?

Lillard- 27.2 PPG
CJ- 24.7 PPG

CJ had some bad games specifically Game 1 (16 points) and Game 5 (12 points) yet CJ bailed him out? Hell no. Do some deep analysis before you say something like this.

[BigShotBob]

How about the first 6 games?

Lillard- 27.2 PPG
CJ- 24.7 PPG

CJ had some bad games specifically Game 1 (16 points) and Game 5 (12 points) yet CJ bailed him out? Hell no. Do some deep analysis before you say something like this.

We all know what game I'm referring to, which was why you cited the other games.

[jayfan]

To be fair though Dame was on bad teams the majority of his time in Portland.

No. If you think that, then you don't know what bad is. He's been on competitive teams the majority of the time he's been in Portland.

[Turbo Slayer]

We all know what game I'm referring to, which was why you cited the other games. Yes I know but you can't just choose ignore and focus on one game when you see fit. You have to take it all in.

Game 1 - Dame has a fanstastic opener with 39 points. CJ nowhere to be found.

Game 5 - Dame puts up 22 points. CJ nowhere to be found.

Admittedly Dame had a bad game in Game 7 where he shot 3-17 from the field and put up 13 points. CJ balled out that game.

"Bailed out" is a strong word when Dame was doing great the first 5 or 6 games...

[Smoke117]

Depends on the team. Carmelo has done well, which shouldn't be a surprise. But imagine if they did get Kevin Love, with Nurkic back healthy? They could have Carmelo off the bench, with that backcourt and great great defender at the 3. With Kevin Love there they wouldn't even need that great defender to be capable of shooting.

lol Carmelo hasn't done anything. He has had no impact whatsoever. Getting Kevin Love would change absolutely nothing. Lillard isn't winning a championship on the Blazers as the Blazers will never be good enough to contend. It's as simple as that. You aren't winning anything when you are paying someone like CJ McCollum the max.

[Whoah10115]

lol Carmelo hasn't done anything. He has had no impact whatsoever. Getting Kevin Love would change absolutely nothing. Lillard isn't winning a championship on the Blazers as the Blazers will never be good enough to contend. It's as simple as that. You aren't winning anything when you are paying someone like CJ McCollum the max.

Within a role Carmelo is fine. Love always has the potential, as he showed Minnesota. Having a player who can dominate on the boards helps.

That said, you could argue for someone else, and I don't disagree with the point of McCollum being paid the max, unless they get some kind of draft steal or sign a guy with some untapped potential.

[Smoke117]

Within a role Carmelo is fine. Love always has the potential, as he showed Minnesota. Having a player who can dominate on the boards helps.

That said, you could argue for someone else, and I don't disagree with the point of McCollum being paid the max, unless they get some kind of draft steal or sign a guy with some untapped potential.

Who gives a shit what he did in Minnesota? You are talking about 6 seasons ago. He's now old, slow (slower I should say...he's always been slow), and ALWAYS hurt. A slow front court like Nurkic and Love would get picked apart. Guards would just switch on to them constantly. What he would bring offensively wouldn't matter as Blazers would be in the bottom 10 defensively. You can't contend when you're that bad defensively no matter what you do offensively.

[Whoah10115]

Who gives a shit what he did in Minnesota? You are talking about 6 seasons ago. He's now old, slow, and ALWAYS hurt. A slow front court like Nurkic and Love would get picked apart. Guards would just switch on to them constantly.

That's a fair point, but nonetheless they need another player. I have no issue with McCollum himself, but he may very well have them strapped. That doesn't mean he can't have value somewhere else and be used as a trade.

[Whoah10115]

never.

and he wont make the hall of fame:cheers:

He's a lock.

[Axe]

Melo seems washed-up already.

[light]

If you say no, explain your reasoning.

No. Not enough help.

Obvious answer is obvious.

[totti950]

Yes, the Blazers are like a couple pieces away from being a title contender.