libTARDS VS RepubTARDS

[DoctorP]

It's painfully obvious that the good ol' USA is as retarded as ever so the time has come to pick between the TARDS:

RepubTARDS:
Protesting over pandemic lockdowns
Bringing guns to their protests
Got nothing done during protests except insult essential workers
Their glorified president sees the disinfectants
Have the nazis and kkk on their side...

have beef with: Iran, China

libTARDS:
Martyring a dude that robbed someone at gunpoint
defunding the Police and at the same time calling 911 on riots
Painfully ignorant to hood statistics
got people to **** up their months of quarantine for a chance to scream at cops
will ban anything mildly offensive
they have that crying lady on their side...

have beef with: America, whoever hires them for soldier deployment

WHO WINS THE RETARD WARS?

[BigKobeFan]

It's painfully obvious that the good ol' USA is as retarded as ever so the time has come to pick between the TARDS:

RepubTARDS:
Protesting over pandemic lockdowns
Bringing guns to their protests
Got nothing done during protests except insult essential workers
Have the nazis and kkk on their side...

have beef with: Iran, China

libTARDS:
Martyring a dude that robbed someone at gunpoint
defunding the Police and at the same time calling 911 on riots
Painfully ignorant to hood statistics
will ban anything mildly offensive
they have that crying lady on their side...

have beef with: America, whoever hires them for soldier deployment

WHO WINS THE RETARD WARS?

When the libtards support communism, they lose

[hateraid]

WHO WINS THE RETARD WARS?

George Soros and antifa

[diamenz]

in politics, everybody loses. except for the people on top watching us fight.

[Shogon]

Everyone is retarded. It's true. I know. lol.

[DoctorP]

oops wrong thread

[Manny98]

Both are dumb

But I find people on the far left way more irritating and irrational

[Phong]

https://youtu.be/K3IPxjltnY0

[DoctorP]

https://youtu.be/K3IPxjltnY0


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[RRR3]

Phong would be a fan of the proud boys :lol

[TheMan]

in politics, everybody loses. except for the people on top watching us fight.
/thread

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[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Everyone is retarded. It's true. I know. lol.

It's really not funny. Like at all.

Ignorance is a disease that needs to be cured.

And I admonish myself first.

[Shogon]

It's really not funny. Like at all.

Ignorance is a disease that needs to be cured.

And I admonish myself first.

It's both infuriating in one moment and hilarious in another.

What is anyone to do?

The media isn't going to change. So the divisiveness will continue and amplify, if anything. Freedom of the press is too important. And the media doesn't really exist much if at all as not for profit. They're there to make money. That's what our media has become. Clickbait, push the story first facts be damned, ratings driven money vultures.

But there needs to be some sort of reform. But what do we do? Putting limits on freedom of the press is a slippery slope.

Personally I think it should be required that there is a big red banner on every single news station at the bottom that says "THIS IS OPINION REPORTING, THIS IS NOT FACT BASED JOURNALISM"... unless of course they are just factually reporting the news... but that doesn't exist nowadays. Not really. Even the local news people push narratives. The media can objectively report fact based news and still just report what they want to report, thus painting narratives in whatever manner they see fit.

So even my solution is far from perfect.

I don't think there is a solution except for people to turn off their TVs and phones and newspapers, to be honest.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Turning off the TV and the News is definitely an excellent start. Don't know the ins and outs of the "subconscious" as you Westerners say it, but even with our conscious filters, television programming influences the mind in a negative way--subliminal messages and all---distorting our reality. Even worse is the flowery language these people use when they try to package trash as something gold.

This extends to all domains----people consuming too many luxury goods for their own detriment, children being infatuated by toys causing grief to their parents, people perceiving others as the enemy, women and men pining for an attractive mate--excessive distraction, the prioritization of small petty agendas over loftier things---.

Couple that with a garbage education and you've got rotted minds. Ouch.

Seriously think that an old fashioned education where people are in a one schoolroom house with reading, writing, and arithmetic and then people going onto apprenticeships may be better than the filth they spew in the schools these days. They teach Kindergarteners stupid songs, they put these lame superhero type things ugh.

And with this whole stupid left vs. right thing it makes it even worse.

You had mentioned a previous thread about the brain generating reality. Though I disagree with the brain being able to do that, as I understand that a) everything is created by God and b) the mind--that is consciousness to be an immaterial aspect like the soul---whereas the brain is a mere organ akin to a highly advanced computer---but our beliefs (which are within our consciousness) most definitely have a great impact on our perception of reality. And shutting of the TV would most definitely be a means to begin to eradicate false beliefs or whatever the mainstream media would impart unto others. Imagine concentrated mental energy on a project with laser like focus!

You had mentioned the college crisis as well earlier, and frankly college itself is an enormous waste of time and where are the sincere, honest professors who don't shove their political viewpoints onto others? I can see the abstention from the media freeing human beings with ample time to use the imagination and rely on those faculties to entertain himself rather than lazily allowing whatever's on the tube to do it for him. I have heard stories of men in the past without technology being able to memorize millions of sayings of wisdom.

This is obvious to you, but it needs to be reiterated.
To curtail the issue of the left and the right, man must find something deeper which binds and unites him to his fellow man...

Given the authority as an educational administrator, Shogon, what do you think would constitute a thorough curriculum to curtail ignorance? What would you remove from the system? What immediate things can be done in your neighborhood to improve mankind's knowledge?

Reading
Writing
Speaking
Listening
Controlling Impulses/Being free from addictions
Providing an environment that would facilitate curiosity
Historical Knowledge
Scientific Knowledge (but more importantly the scientific process)
The art of foresight (imagining and foreseeing circumstances)
The art of instilling curiosity and asking questions
The art of manners
The art of logic (if p --> q, then not p ---> then not q)
The art of inductive and deductive reasoning
Human nature (motivation, drives)
Business/Economics/Accounting
Computers
Cars

[Vragrant]

Never understood the "tard" name calling in political "discussions" here and elsewhere. I can't believe a grown adult would use this verbage, its so juvenile.

[DoctorP]

Never understood the "tard" name calling in political "discussions" here and elsewhere. I can't believe a grown adult would use this verbage, its so juvenile.


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[BurningHammer]

in politics, everybody loses. except for the people on top watching us fight.

The correct answer.

[DoctorP]

https://youtu.be/3tR6mKcBbT4

[Jasper]

That is why we need a third part to divide pubs and Demos and create a better government

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wVagQ_LVd4

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wVagQ_LVd4



https://youtu.be/gX_OO-w2VZg

[Doomsday Dallas]

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[Nanners]

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Meanwhile in Chicago: black people are 30% of its population but 60% of its Covid-19 deaths (source (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/chicago-black-coronavirus-fatalities-us))

[DoctorP]

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[RidonKs]

Seriously think that an old fashioned education where people are in a one schoolroom house with reading, writing, and arithmetic and then people going onto apprenticeships may be better than the filth they spew in the schools these days. They teach Kindergarteners stupid songs, they put these lame superhero type things ugh.
You might be an exception to a very general rule that most people don't learn new things when confined to a small space with abstract symbols as the curriculum. Education doesn't need to be confined, it needs to be let loose. A better generation will only arrive when they are allowed to participate in the big, scary world as much as possible. And already that's happening.

It's an easy answer to turn Luddite and decry as the enemy a selection of false idols: "social media", "media establishment", "fake news"... this is not very different from claiming that video games or pornography or music videos poison the mind.

One argument is that kids have turned inward, screen-facing, and internet-obsessed, because the unregulated online world gives them access to content that their parents and teachers and superiors all over the place deny them. It's just unfortunate that, since most respectable authority figures maintain most of their presence in the real world and lack the online connection, those same curious kids get scooped up by cults and conspiracies and movements. The authoritarian response so far has been to combat the online pushers with stupid censorship/access laws which have the obvious effect of enamouring the forbidden fruit. The only solution is to engage them in person with the subjects that their curiosity demands to be resolved. But that's hard. Most people don't want to have anything to do with kids to begin with, so once you task them with the additional mandate of being open, engaging, honest... it seems pretty much impossible.

But to respond to the Luddite position with a better argument: technology is mental health, suicide prevention, community building. I've certainly used it in that way during difficult times. Perhaps now is one of them since here I am once again punching keys on insidehoops.

This phenomenon has been playing out for over a decade now, and it's glorious, and it's a damn shame if you've missed it, and choose instead to lament the perils of modern chaos. It's just systems opening up, democratizing, dispersing people into new groups and categories. And online subcultures are an incredibly positive thing in so many ways. They give people the sense of community and "not being alone" that so many kids lack. They tend to dissolve large scale celebrity status seeking. They are ruled by consensus by default since everyone is there by choice stemming from character, not geography or economic value. Basketball messageboards tend to attract the same type of person, and here we all are, not too fussy about much, and surely behaving differently than some other forum. If this sounds obvious, I don't think you're accounting for the magnitude of the effect. It's huge. And people depend on it from the core of their souls.

ctd

[RidonKs]

People come in every shape and size, yet their bubbles are often very small. For the thick of the bell curve, that's fine and relating to others is easy. But for the polar ends on any given factor, the extremes, the weirdos, you've got people who see their normie friends and come to a full stop, because there is some part of them that remains unfulfilled, unconnected, underobserved. At some level you want your weirdest most secretive part to be recognized, and for the weirdest and most secretive amongst us, that's very unlikely to happen "in a neighbourhood", and all

You can add a genetic component to this if you like: the world is globalized. People move all over the place. Multi-cultural and multi-ethnic integration is just a face of the world. So since " the races are mixing", we have literally "new breeds" of "human stock" coming into being all over the place. Is it any wonder that we also have fresh faced human instincts which are failing to attach to any particular tradition-set which used to guide more homogenous nations in the past?


I suppose I see this very differently. You guys look at schools and see rotting minds being fed bad and boring and easy and lazy curriculum. You look at the media and see liars and propagandists. You see relaxing social norms and pressures and acceptance as a barrier to excellence.

All I see is an adjustment phase. And there are plenty of horrors about it, any one of which you'd be well within your common sense to commit your entire life to attempting to redress, and god bless you for trying - even if it comes at the cost of a hidden cynicism. Plenty is wrong. But this apocalyptic stuff about the dying western empire and cultural degeneracy and all of that doesn't make any sense to me. There are better explanations and they aren't difficult to find, you just have to convince yourself to give them the credit they deserve.

Maybe it's just a matter of emphasis. There's creation and destruction: institutions go through the same process. Every institution serves some human end (which human is another story, but you can abstract and simplify until you're able to universalize). The institutions come and go but the ends are here for good. If an institution like the education system is withering away, you can bet something else somewhere else is being erected as a replacement. Some watch stuff go up, some watch stuff go down. And I guess there are merits and lessons to both viewpoints.