Kyrie Irving leading charge of players not to return due to "racial tension"

[Clippersfan86]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1271503320100646915

What the **** is this trash? Do they know the NBA has a clause in the CBA to forfeit their salary during a pandemic basically??? These guys were mostly trying to get back to playing too because they want to get paid. It's not just the big bad, money hungry NBA. I do notice a pattern that all of these vocal guys who are challenging coming back seem to be from lower playoff seeds or non playoff teams. I haven't heard one player from a contender come out with this stuff. :biggums:. Also racial tension or unrest isn't a good reason to call out of work.

[bluechox2]

Mental midget to return with out kd...hes been begging kd to come back

[Clippersfan86]

Mental midget to return with out kd...hes been begging kd to come back

Yep! I guarantee if KD announced he was back, Kyrie would disappear with this shit.

[dbugz]

when you see the word kyrie and leading in the same sentence, you know it aint happening.

it's just noise. don't mind it.

[999Guy]

I’m glad I’ve been hating Kyrie since 2015. Dumbass overrated fool.

[Clippersfan86]

Good info from Nate Jones:

"Hearing how players are feeling about going back under the restrictions that are being laid out. Players need to feel safe and comfortable as possible. That’s top priority. But they also need to fully understand and consider financial implications of ending the season. Whatever choice they make, that needs to be fully understood. If the season is canceled, the NBA will 100% rip up the current CBA.

Negotiating a new CBA in the middle of a pandemic will be an opportunity for ownership to try to take a bigger share of BRI and give less guarantees. There’s a domino effect that I just hope is being fully explained and understood. Season cancelled, local tv force majeure, NBA CBA force majeure, CBA ripped up, etc. Basically the most important NBA business agreements have to be renegotiated in middle of pandemic.

I don’t know what all the local deals look like, but imagine if the Lakers massive TV deal has an out if the season canceled? They are gonna be trying to get a new deal done at a massive discount from what they are currently obligated to play. That impacts total BRI, which the players split with the ownership groups. Not only could I see those structures decreasing, but I could see the the players share of the total pot being pushed to less than 50% as well as less guarantees on contracts. Players with big contracts aren’t protected.

If they rip up the CBA and have less of a split going forward + less total league revenue, that means those star players will have to return $ to league. Again, I’m not saying guys should do something they don’t want to do. But whatever choice they make, they need to FULLY understand the potential financial implications."

[Clippersfan86]

@VinceGoodwill of Yahoo Sports: Yahoo Sources: "Several high profile players are communicating with their counterparts and educating them on potential negative financial impact not playing would have on the players, not just for this season but moving forward. The high profile players are also relaying that the NBPA won’t have any leverage negotiating a new CBA with owners in the middle of a pandemic"

[Manny98]

when you see the word kyrie and leading in the same sentence, you know it aint happening.

it's just noise. don't mind it.

lol Boston fan still salty at Kyrie leaving that garbage franchise :lol

[dbugz]

lol Boston fan still salty at Kyrie leaving that garbage franchise :lol

we winning the title this season. no worries :pimp:

[Wally450]

lol Boston fan still salty at Kyrie leaving that garbage franchise :lol

There's literally posts from you saying you were done with Kyrie, so....

[STATUTORY]

Le-WHOA-ke (k is silent) taught him well

[FultzNationRISE]

It’s a fair point.

As a viewer, I have no particular interest in watching ignorant players whove been stoking racial tension with empty platitudes, and who bring zero substance to issues they attempt to wedge themselves into. I wasnt planning on watching any of the playoffs. Just celebrating for lulz on ISH when LeHuge wins.


So if players have their own reasons for not wanting to play right now themselves... that’s fair enough too. :confusedshrug:

[Turbo Slayer]

It’s a fair point.

As a viewer, I have no particular interest in watching ignorant players whove been stoking racial tension with empty platitudes, and who bring zero substance to issues they attempt to wedge themselves into. I wasnt planning on watching any of the playoffs. Just celebrating for lulz on ISH when LeHuge wins.


So if players have their own reasons for not wanting to play right now themselves... that’s fair enough too. :confusedshrug: And if LeBron and the Lakers loses in the POs?

Don't overthink it.

[Whoah10115]

Rather appalling if he's using racial tensions as any kind of reason.

[FultzNationRISE]

And if LeBron and the Lakers loses in the POs?

Don't overthink it.


So what...?

Referees and teammates have cost LePotent titles before. It certainly wouldnt be the first time. Either way he’s still the GOAT, anything on top of his current resume is just gravy. So the LeBron Fam literally aint got no worries.

And itll still be epic when he wins and LeHater meltdowns hit unthinkable proportions.

[TheImmortal]

Unlike Bronny come lately social psuedo conscious frauds.. Props to Kyrie for standing up for whats right.


Shut it down.. all of it.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm not going to condemn him or anything without hearing his perspective but if this is about racial tensions the NBA would most likely let him do whatever protest he wants to before and after the game, in the current climate almost anything goes so long as it's politically correct. And any protest made in the NBA playoffs would gather a lot of attention. I'm not sure what he thinks not playing would accomplish better than playing with whatever symbolic gestures of protest he wanted to do. Or what he expects the NBA to do about this. The league exists to make money. If they let you kneel during the anthem or whatever so long as ou play, what more do you want/expect?

[LoneyROY7]

Ummm, Kyrie isn't going to be playing anyways...what I am missing?

Just stay at home like you were going to already.

[Manny98]

There's literally posts from you saying you were done with Kyrie, so....
bro worry about your shit team not getting busted in the first round of the playoffs :oldlol:

[Meticode]

lol Boston fan still salty at Kyrie leaving that garbage franchise :lol

It doesn't make it any less true.

[Meticode]

Feelsl ike you have a rift between players.

The high profile players want to play because they have smart advisors letting them know the millions they will lose.

You have other players that don't want to play because of current events going on.

Then you probably have other players that that don't know what to do and are not educated leaning towards not playing because of current events, but they have no clue how much money they will lose.

[Clippersfan86]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1271618225189634048
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1271619327079448578

Kyrie is a grade A idiot.

[Im Still Ballin]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1271618225189634048
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1271619327079448578

Kyrie is a grade A idiot.

He must have done some serious drugs a few years back

[Clippersfan86]

He must have done some serious drugs a few years back

What's worse is the media people DEFENDING his idiocy and hypocrisy. Like it's an honorable thing he's doing and heroic. You best believe if him and KD were healthy and had a shot at a title he wouldn't be pulling this dumb shit.

[FultzNationRISE]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1271618225189634048
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1271619327079448578

Kyrie is a grade A idiot.

"I don’t support going into Orlando. I’m not with the systematic racism and the bullshit. Something smells a little fishy."


:roll:


Kyrie dropping the kind of profundity he’s famous for.

[Clippersfan86]

"I don’t support going into Orlando. I’m not with the systematic racism and the bullshit. Something smells a little fishy."


:roll:


Kyrie dropping the kind of profundity he’s famous for.

:lol. Like from this context it sounds like he's accusing the league of systemic racism?? The NBA is easily the most pro black sports league in the world. NFL players ENVY NBA players.

[SATAN]

Kyrie is completely unlikable at this point.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The biggest problem with Irving isn't whether he's right or wrong it's that you can't make him happy no matter what you do. If he just refuses to be satisfied there's nothing you can do. Let him and whoever agrees with him sit out and finish the season with guys that want to play basketball for millions of dollars. I bet there are a few guys like that out there

[dreamshake]

Kyrie is setting a great example for the African American community everywhere by putting his money where his mouth is.

Meanwhile LeBron just tweets and pretends it but doesn't actually shell out any money for the cause.

LeMao Jang getting sonned by Kyrie Irving :bowdown:

[Smoke117]

Kyrie is setting a great example for the African American community everywhere by putting his money where his mouth is.

Meanwhile LeBron just tweets and pretends it but doesn't actually shell out any money for the cause.

LeMao Jang getting sonned by Kyrie Irving :bowdown:

...Kyrie also thinks the world is flat. He's the definition of a blow hard...he loves to talk while actually saying nothing. The only thing worse than a stupid person is a stupid person with some power who thinks he's intelligent. That's Kyrie Irving.

[loadingthelife]

Kyrie is oppressed and scared that his execution might be televised, don't blame him.

[Whoah10115]

He must have done some serious drugs a few years back

He smokes a lot.

[PP34Deuce]

Pretty simple to see young players not in playoffs wanna just end the season and work out and be even better for the next season.

Veteran nba players like melo kyrie have enough money and no title aspirations this year so theyd rather hold.

Teams like philly bos Lakers clippers bucks rockets want to play because they busted their asses to compete for a title.

Ultimately there's too much forward movement for the season not to resume. They might need to just have the top 16 or 17 teams play regular season and then playoffs start.

[Lebron23]

"He's not going to play anyway due to injury".

[dreamshake]

Pretty simple to see young players not in playoffs wanna just end the season and work out and be even better for the next season.

Veteran nba players like melo kyrie have enough money and no title aspirations this year so theyd rather hold.

Teams like philly bos Lakers clippers bucks rockets want to play because they busted their asses to compete for a title.

Ultimately there's too much forward movement for the season not to resume. They might need to just have the top 16 or 17 teams play regular season and then playoffs start.

Quit talking out of your ass. The Nets are the 7th seed and they're in position to be in the playoffs.

The only forward movement that matters to a largely African American sport is that of systematic racism. That's more important than basketball and I'm glad Kyrie Irving and others are starting to see the bigger picture.

[FKAri]

The biggest problem with Irving isn't whether he's right or wrong it's that you can't make him happy no matter what you do. If he just refuses to be satisfied there's nothing you can do. Let him and whoever agrees with him sit out and finish the season with guys that want to play basketball for millions of dollars. I bet there are a few guys like that out there

A possible scenario is that his ideas will spread like cancer and before you know it the games will be played with incomplete rosters rendering the competition meaningless.

[dreamshake]

https://i.postimg.cc/HLbygGNN/IdPefHc.jpg

Kyrie Luther King

[imdaman99]

:lol. Like from this context it sounds like he's accusing the league of systemic racism?? The NBA is easily the most pro black sports league in the world. NFL players ENVY NBA players.
NFL is changing. Now that goat-candidate Mahomes sides with the brotherhood, they bringing change there too :bowdown:

[dreamshake]

NFL is changing. Now that goat-candidate Mahomes sides with the brotherhood, they bringing change there too :bowdown:

Chain chain change

[dreamshake]

Unlike Bronny come lately social psuedo conscious frauds.. Props to Kyrie for standing up for whats right.


Shut it down.. all of it.

Shut er down boys. America’s got bigger issues to focus on at the moment.

[RRR3]

...Kyrie also thinks the world is flat. He's the definition of a blow hard...he loves to talk while actually saying nothing. The only thing worse than a stupid person is a stupid person with some power who thinks he's intelligent. That's Kyrie Irving.
He's the Starface of the NBA :lol

[light]

Shut er down boys. America’s got bigger issues to focus on at the moment.

Why are you here then if we have bigger issues to focus on?

In any case, I only see everything re-opening. I don't see anything else shutting down. It's not necessary. And besides the players can make their biggest statements during broadcasts.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/John_Carlos%2C_Tommie_Smith%2C_Peter_Norman_1968cr .jpg

[Goldrush25]

Quit talking out of your ass. The Nets are the 7th seed and they're in position to be in the playoffs.

The only forward movement that matters to a largely African American sport is that of systematic racism. That's more important than basketball and I'm glad Kyrie Irving and others are starting to see the bigger picture.

He's not seeing any picture. He's not going to play anyway and he's not vested right now. When the next season begins and there's still systemic racism in the US, his sorry ass will be all too eager to play.

If he puts his money where his mouth is and retires until systemic racism is eliminated then people can respect him. Most everyone else can see through his bullshite.

[Real Men Wear Green]

A possible scenario is that his ideas will spread like cancer and before you know it the games will be played with incomplete rosters rendering the competition meaningless.
No he's not that influential, guys may think he's cool to hang out with but in the end no one is sacrificing millions just because Kyrie's woke. The real issue being raised by Tatum, Mitchell and other young stars is that they are wanting (extra?) insurance because they're on the verge of signing major extensions and don't tant to lose that payday without coverage. Which is valid and makes clear sense with an avenue to resolution (call up Lloyds of London).

[dreamshake]

No he's not that influential, guys may think he's cool to hang out with but in the end no one is sacrificing millions just because Kyrie's woke. The real issue being raised by Tatum, Mitchell and other young stars is that they are wanting (extra?) insurance because they're on the verge of signing major extensions and don't tant to lose that payday without coverage. Which is valid and makes clear sense with an avenue to resolution (call up Lloyds of London).

Kyrie is so influential, he was able to convince Kevin Durant to leave the Golden State Warriors dynasty to team up with him in Brooklyn. Sounds like you're salty he left Boston on his own terms.

[highwhey]

This idiot is trying to thwart Brons inevitable championship. I bet if he had a healthy KD, he wouldn't try to pull this off.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Kyrie is so influential, he was able to convince Kevin Durant to leave the Golden State Warriors dynasty to team up with him in Brooklyn. Sounds like you're salty he left Boston on his own terms.

I suppose you think Irving somehow got him to feud with Draymond Green as well, right? You've fast become one of our most pointless trolls.

[ArbitraryWater]

This idiot is trying to thwart Brons inevitable championship. I bet if he had a healthy KD, he wouldn't try to pull this off.

Anything he says his brain comes up with cause of a motive behind it

Says purposely divided system?

Okay pls spread all your wealth to other players

Ready to stop it all for social reform?

Well then go on, stop your NBA career right now.

He's a pseudo-intellectual who sounds extremely dumb in reality.

He says whatever suits him the best.

He is selfish AND misguided.

[dreamshake]

I suppose you think Irving somehow got him to feud with Draymond Green as well, right? You've fast become one of our most pointless trolls.

Nope I do have a point here. You just choose to ignore that fact. Durant could've gone anywhere. Why'd he choose to go to Brooklyn with Kyrie? They're friends. Kyrie influences him and vice versa. Not hard to grasp.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nope I do have a point here. You just choose to ignore that fact. Durant could've gone anywhere. Why'd he choose to go to Brooklyn with Kyrie? They're friends. Kyrie influences him and vice versa. Not hard to grasp.
He chose Brooklyn because they had enough max cap space for himself and Irving. Playing with Irving definitely appealed to him but the important parts were him deciding to leave the Warriors and wanting to play for a team he thought could contend. What you are talking about is Irving speaking woke to players to convince them to turn their backs on millions of dollars. In an environment where the best players n the best teams (James, Leonard, Giannis, Harden, etc.) are not talking about doing this. Irving himself was asking in the 80-person call about what it will be lik to just attend games in the bubble because guess what? He's injured and isn't going to be playing anyway. But you can continue with your fantasy about the NBA not resuming for whatever silly reasons are bouncing around in your head.

[FireDavidKahn]

The irony is that the NBA coming back would give the NBA and the players a bigger voice then ever before.

[CelticBaller]

a small part of me wants this to be successful so the nba gets canceled next season as well and all the players blame kyrie for screwing them for a year and half without pay

[red1]

First time Kyrie has led a group of players into june
https://twitter.com/iam_johnw/status/1271618395088269317

:roll::roll::roll:

[dreamshake]

Anything he says his brain comes up with cause of a motive behind it

Says purposely divided system?

Okay pls spread all your wealth to other players

Ready to stop it all for social reform?

Well then go on, stop your NBA career right now.

He's a pseudo-intellectual who sounds extremely dumb in reality.

He says whatever suits him the best.

He is selfish AND misguided.

Sounds like you just described LeBron James. Like father, like son.

[dreamshake]

Kyrie da real MVP

[light]

Kyrie da real MVP

Support for his position has already fallen apart.

I guess people have remembered that he's crazy.

[antuagandon22]

What ever... they will resume the season and players will continue playing.

[dylankelly]

Kyrie is the WOAT. Dumbest person on 'flat' earth. I wrote an article about this.
https://sidelinesports.report/2020/06/15/speak-out-and-dont-dribble/

[light]

Kyrie is a dumb@ss and a hypocrite. No offense to either groups.

[r0drig0lac]

Kyrie is the WOAT. Dumbest person on 'flat' earth. I wrote an article about this.
https://sidelinesports.report/2020/06/15/speak-out-and-dont-dribble/http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/applause.gif

[Marchesk]

By the time the league restarts on July 31st, the current protests will no longer be news worthy. Covid has already retaken the top news story, now that half the country is out going to bars and beaches. By July there will be something else the news media is obsessed with. And Trump will have made 2800 offensive and ridiculous tweets between now and then.

Meanwhile, Kyrie can stay at home with Durant and watch the playoffs along with the rest of us. I want to see a conclusion to the season.

[nashwade]

to me this is a seriously flawed logic: re-starting the NBA season will take ATTENTION away from BLM? Tell me this, if there was no COVID and we are playing the NBA Finals now, will we suspend the Finals cos it's taking attention away from BLM? The answer is NO.

I get that players don't want to play cos of health reasons and I respect that but this "taking attention away shit" is too much of a stretch

[Norcaliblunt]

What could the players even do with this so called huge platform and voice they would have if they return? Really what? Kneel? Lol. What the hell is that gonna do? Nothing. The only thing they can do is strike forcing people to have to keep watching the news for entertainment reminding everyone that the reason there’s no basketball to enjoy is because of racist cops. All this symbolic bullshit nonsense they would do during games would not matter one bit if people are getting what they want which is entertainment. You strike and let people know the reason they don’t have entertainment is because of racism.

[Norcaliblunt]

What’s the bigger story? Athletes kneeling for the millionth time? Or players sitting out until progress is made?

[coin24]

Kyrie can go hang at Chaz with the other flat earth BLM dumb fks.. that piece of shit always has an excuse not to play

[insidehoops]

The latest on this, from today: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=23117

[nashwade]

What’s the bigger story? Athletes kneeling for the millionth time? Or players sitting out until progress is made?

so how long will this "sit-out" take?

Like I said, if the Playoffs were already in progress and there is no COVID, none of this would have happen. Which makes Kyrie's comments or desire or whatever nonsensical.

and progress is, a process. Just because there is no sports from July to October doesn't suddenly make racist people change their minds.

[Axe]

so how long will this "sit-out" take?

Like I said, if the Playoffs were already in progress and there is no COVID, none of this would have happen. Which makes Kyrie's comments or desire or whatever nonsensical.

and progress is, a process. Just because there is no sports from July to October doesn't suddenly make racist people change their minds.
Not only covid but we have to blame this year for having too many sorry tragic events and were not even 3/4 past it yet

[oldtimer28]

I say the nba watches the movie the replacements. Keanu can fill in.

[Wally450]

Kyrie failing to lead again.

[dreamshake]

to me this is a seriously flawed logic: re-starting the NBA season will take ATTENTION away from BLM? Tell me this, if there was no COVID and we are playing the NBA Finals now, will we suspend the Finals cos it's taking attention away from BLM? The answer is NO.

I get that players don't want to play cos of health reasons and I respect that but this "taking attention away shit" is too much of a stretch

Yes. Fans will watch the games instead of protesting, thus taking attention away from racial injustice. Not hard to understand.

[AirBonner]

Yes. Fans will watch the games instead of protesting, thus taking attention away from racial injustice. Not hard to understand.

It’s not a race issue it’s an abuse of power issue

[Whoah10115]

Yes. Fans will watch the games instead of protesting, thus taking attention away from racial injustice. Not hard to understand.

Yeah all those important voices will become impotent because they have to watch the basketball.

[dbugz]

to me this is a seriously flawed logic: re-starting the NBA season will take ATTENTION away from BLM? Tell me this, if there was no COVID and we are playing the NBA Finals now, will we suspend the Finals cos it's taking attention away from BLM? The answer is NO.

I get that players don't want to play cos of health reasons and I respect that but this "taking attention away shit" is too much of a stretch

Yup! If it's health issue sure it's their call but if it because of the black movement is just a total BS.

[dbugz]

And who are these coalition of players they're talking about?

I'm only seeing 3 names Cryrie, Dwight Gayward, Avery

They want to fight for this black movement but they don't want to be named? What the F is that BS?

[dreamshake]

Lou Williams
Morris bros
Jerami Grant

[Marchesk]

Since we're caring so much about what one star who's out of the playoffs for injuries, what do Durant and Klay Thompson have to say on this?

[iamgine]

How likable do you think Kyrie is among his peers? Seeing from the outside, he doesn't seem like a very likable dude.

[GreatHILL]

the nba going to blackball this flatearther soon as possible :lol

[PP34Deuce]

Avery seems to have the strongest idea of wat he wants to see. Hes been very specific.

[dreamshake]

Kyrie da real MVP

[dbugz]

what funny is, give it two weeks and this BLM movement news is going to die down in the news naturally. :oldlol:

Just need one to two big news and we won't hear any news regarding this anymore :oldlol:

[dreamshake]

Since we're caring so much about what one star who's out of the playoffs for injuries, what do Durant and Klay Thompson have to say on this?

Durant supports Kyrie 100%, even called Perkins a sellout for talking shit about Kyrie.

[dreamshake]

Add Bertans and Avery Bradley to the list. Kyrie leading the charge :bowdown:

[dreamshake]

Charge!!

[totti950]

Since we're caring so much about what one star who's out of the playoffs for injuries, what do Durant and Klay Thompson have to say on this?

KD supports Kyrie but haven’t heard from Klay.

[Axe]

Kyrie is a sissy

[Uncle Drew]

There's been like 5 players who have opted to not return to the league this season. :roll: Classic Kyrie leadership.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So far no one is sitting out over racial tensions. Even Avery Bradley cited his family as the actual reason. Dwight Howard talked about it but he's going to play. Irving is injured and wasn't going to play anyway.

Even if it had been a guy like Lebron it would have been unlikely that a large number of players sit to protest. They would be losing a lot of money and there are other ways to make the point and probably in a more effective way.

But I will say that a resurgence of covid is a serious threat to the league especially in Florida where the numbers are going up and the government is not doing anything about it.

[Duderonomy]

what funny is, give it two weeks and this BLM movement news is going to die down in the news naturally. :oldlol:

Just need one to two big news and we won't hear any news regarding this anymore :oldlol:

It already has, the mainstream media is back on the covid 19 hype train again.

I love how we have corporate sponsored protests now. Its the whole point of activism to cover topics and ideas that go against the current status quo?

[dreamshake]

Lebron playing checkers, Kyrie playing chess :bowdown:

[34-24 Footwork]

Lebron playing checkers, Kyrie playing chess :bowdown:

These are some good BUMPS. Lebron looking BAD right now. ESPN and Fox have a way of reshaping their image because they're media. Not sure if Lebron can take this particular 'jacket' off.

[dreamshake]

Don't forget who started this idea. Kyrie Luther Irving.

[Stephonit]

Kyrie showing he is the real leader in the NBA.

[dreamshake]

Kyrie showing he is the real leader in the NBA.

Kyrie da real MVP :bowdown:

[dreamshake]

Somewhere Kyrie sitting and feeling vindicated.

[Marchesk]

Kyrie is the closer.

[nayte]

U gotta admit Kyrie called it

[Whoah10115]

Why are people bumping older threads to bump tension?

We have enough open.

[dreamshake]

Kyrie is the closer.

The Closer.

[Lebron23]

Kyrie took another L.

[bluechox2]

Where is kyrie?? Dude faked an injury, preached for blm behind his 4 walls... never spotted

[Real Men Wear Green]

Where is kyrie?? Dude faked an injury, preached for blm behind his 4 walls... never spotted
I would hesitate to say he isn't doing anything and definitely won't say he faked his injury. But I will say by not entering the bubble he lost relevance. He's more than an athlete, they all are, but it's a simple fact that if he didn't play basketball none of us would know who he was. So he might even have attended a rally (and being famous there could be a picture out there I don't know don't feel like searching) but he's not going to do anything that would draw nearly as much attention to issues than all what has happened inside of the bubble.