MJ can't assist on his own shots, that's why he assisted MORE OFTEN than Pippen

[trada7029]

MJ assisted 33% more often than Pippen in the playoffs (28 to 21 assist %) and 10% more often in the regular season (25 to 23)

So once and for all - MJ was the passing leader on the Bulls and assisted on the most Bulls' field goals and the most often - by far - while also getting more dpoy votes every year and carrying the goat scoring load

[ELITEpower23]

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[MrFonzworth]

OP is 3ball but wearing #45 instead of #23.

[ELITEpower23]

OP is 3ball but wearing #45 instead of #23.

One million percent :lol

[aceman]

OP is 3ball but wearing #45 instead of #23.

Ha - Washington jordan

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MJ assisted 33% more often than Pippen in the playoffs (28 to 21 assist %) and 10% more often in the regular season (25 to 23)

So once and for all - MJ was the passing leader on the Bulls and assisted on the most Bulls' field goals and the most often - by far - while also getting more dpoy votes every year and carrying the goat scoring load

"MJ was the passing leader on the Bulls"

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"while also getting more dpoy votes every year"

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Those 15 first place votes Pippen received are the most by any Bulls player from 1991 to 1998. Second most are also from Pippen in 1994.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It took you this long to discover alts? How stupid are you?

[Bronbron23]

This isnt as far fetched as it sounds. If you actually watched the games mj was definitely a more natural or fluid passer than pip. It just that mj main role as a shooting gaurd was to obviously shoot the ball. Pips role was to score also but he was more of a facilitator. Put mj and pip at the point gaurd position and i guarantee mj gets more assists.

[Whoah10115]

I'm not getting into who is the better passer, but will add this.

This kid at the park was talking while we were just shooting around. Kidd was in his second season in New Jersey, and he said Marbury was better than Kidd. He got almost as any assists any scored 22-23, so therefore almost as good a passer and better.

[Bronbron23]

I'm not getting into who is the better passer, but will add this.

This kid at the park was talking while we were just shooting around. Kidd was in his second season in New Jersey, and he said Marbury was better than Kidd. He got almost as any assists any scored 22-23, so therefore almost as good a passer and better.

Good point. People on here just look at stats and think that naturally means better. The eye test and common sense say otherwise sometimes though. For anyone who dosnt think mj is a good passer and at least as good as pip go back and watch games from the the end of the 88 season where mj played point gaurd. In that 20 game stretch he nearly averaged a tripple double. It also raised his assists totals for the year to 8 which is higher than any year pip ever played.

[Roundball_Rock]

OP is 3ball but wearing #45 instead of #23.

:lol


For anyone who dosnt think mj is a good passer and at least as good as pip go back and watch games from the the end of the 88 season where mj played point gaurd

The issue with MJ as a passer was not capability but mentality. There is a reason the experiment lasted only 20 games while Pippen stayed in that role the rest of his career (even played PG full-time for a while in Portland).

Jordan was on the record saying he was stat padding for triple doubles during that time frame. These things are always left out 30+ years later as if it was a smashing success. (MJ admits to having coaches, scorers, teammates help him with his goal of stat padding triple doubles here https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1989-04-09-8901190048-story.html)


It also raised his assists totals for the year to 8 which is higher than any year pip ever playe

That was outside the triangle. The triangle deflates official assist totals since it produces more ball movement and more hockey assists.

Here is a scouting report on Pippen as a passer:


While he was a phenomenal finisher and transition player, Pippen’s best offensive attribute was his passing. By my estimates, he dolled out “good” or “great” passes on about 3 plays per 100, which, for comparison, was slightly behind John Stockton’s rate. Scottie’s estimated creation rates seem inline with his hand-tracked ones, around 6-7 per 100 during his prime years. His shot selection was sound, launching only his pull-up 3-pointer too hastily.

https://backpicks.com/2018/01/29/backpicks-goat-23-scottie-pippen/

[Bronbron23]

:lol



The issue with MJ as a passer was not capability but mentality. There is a reason the experiment lasted only 20 games while Pippen stayed in that role the rest of his career (even played PG full-time for a while in Portland).

Jordan was on the record saying he was stat padding for triple doubles during that time frame. These things are always left out 30+ years later as if it was a smashing success. (MJ admits to having coaches, scorers, teammates help him with his goal of stat padding triple doubles here https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1989-04-09-8901190048-story.html)



That was outside the triangle. The triangle deflates official assist totals since it produces more ball movement and more hockey assists.

Here is a scouting report on Pippen as a passer:



https://backpicks.com/2018/01/29/backpicks-goat-23-scottie-pippen/

you dont think lebron stat pads? Sure mj stat paded. And of course it didn't work. One guy dominating the ball rarely does. This is why bron only has one that way and why guys like luka and harden will never win one. I only brought it up to highlight mj's passing ability not that he could win that way.

And yes the triangle does deflate individual stats ill give u that. We really dont know what pip could do in a truly ball dominant system but i dought he would be able to put up 30 and almost 10 like mj did. He coukd definitely get the 9 to 10 assists part but hes not getting anywhere close to 30 points.

[trada7029]

This isnt as far fetched as it sounds.

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Far fetched?

It's a fact.. MJ assisted 33% .ore often in the playoffs

You guys are just too db to understand what I'm talking about

[Roundball_Rock]

It deflates assists because it creates more "hockey assists" that don't show up on the stat sheet. It is no coincidence Pippen's career best assist % came in 02' in Portland--and that was an older Pippen who didn't have the same ability to beat his man/slash to create assists that prime Pippen did. People put up good numbers in other areas in the triangle (scoring, rebounds, etc.) but I believe Pippen's 7.0 in assists in 92' remains the highest anyone has ever had in the triangle.

LeBron is in a system that is conducive to him racking up stats. Does he actively check the stats at the scorer's table, get regular updates from coaches on his stats, and ask teammates to get him an extra assist, etc. like MJ did? I assume not--since if he did we would have heard it about by now.

[Bronbron23]

Far fetched?

It's a fact.. MJ assisted 33% .ore often in the playoffs

You guys are just too db to understand what I'm talking about

Chill bruh take your meds or have a drink or something i said it isnt as far fetched when you actually look at it. To some on the surface it may seem far fetched is all i was saying

[trada7029]

It deflates assists because it creates more "hockey assists" that don't show up on the stat sheet. It is no coincidence Pippen's career best assist % came in 02' in Portland--and that was an older Pippen who didn't have the same ability to beat his man/slash to create assists that prime Pippen did. People put up good numbers in other areas in the triangle (scoring, rebounds, etc.) but I believe Pippen's 7.0 in assists in 92' remains the highest anyone has ever had in the triangle.

LeBron is in a system that is conducive to him racking up stats. Does he actively check the stats at the scorer's table, get regular updates from coaches on his stats, and ask teammates to get him an extra assist, etc. like MJ did? I assume not--since if he did we would have heard it about by now.

Don't ever say that Pippen passed more than MJ or "handled the passing duties"

It's ridiculously FALSE

MJ assisted 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% more often than Pippen

Can you understand that?

MJ was scoring twice as much and assisting 33% more often - complete domination of the game and the most possessions ever - MYTHS BUSTED - PIPPEN WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE PASSING LEADER!

[RRR3]

Don't ever say that Pippen passed more than MJ or "handled the passing duties"

It's ridiculously FALSE

MJ assisted 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% more often than Pippen

Can you understand that?

MJ was scoring twice as much and assisting 33% more often - complete domination of the game and the most possessions ever - MYTHS BUSTED - PIPPEN WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE PASSING LEADER!
What happened to retiring, 3ball?

[Roundball_Rock]

What happened to retiring, 3ball?

:lol

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[Manny98]

Don't ever say that Pippen passed more than MJ or "handled the passing duties"

It's ridiculously FALSE

MJ assisted 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% more often than Pippen

Can you understand that?

MJ was scoring twice as much and assisting 33% more often - complete domination of the game and the most possessions ever - MYTHS BUSTED - PIPPEN WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE PASSING LEADER!
what a meltdown :roll:

[MrFonzworth]

:lol

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[Rico2016]

Don't ever say that Pippen passed more than MJ or "handled the passing duties"

It's ridiculously FALSE

MJ assisted 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% 33% more often than Pippen

Can you understand that?

MJ was scoring twice as much and assisting 33% more often - complete domination of the game and the most possessions ever - MYTHS BUSTED - PIPPEN WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO THE PASSING LEADER!

No.


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