Ed Davis: It's easy for Kyrie and Dwight to say that from their mansions

[Clippersfan86]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/1272533102166933509

https://*********.com/2020/06/15/utahs-ed-davis-was-on-fridays-players-call-this-is-why-hes-against-sitting-out/

He was one of the players on that call. Paraphrased obviously. For Kyrie he said would he give it all back, and hit Dwight for his 20 million dollar mansion. Ed is one of those respected vets who doesn't say much, but when he talks you should listen.

[Shogon]

Kyrie is full of shit. So is Dwight.

Just give it all back and step out of the limelight. Nobody is going to care. But Kyrie won't do that... lol. We all know, it's fine. I don't judge him for that. I judge him for his fake political messages that are on hallow ground just like LeBron and the rest of these woke PC leftists that haven't a clue about life.

And this isn't racial when I say this... shut up and dribble. I do not care about the political opinions of Kyrie Irving, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Larry Bird, Tom Hanks, Tom Hardy, Leonardo Dicaprio, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Oprah Winfrey, etc... I DON'T CARE.

YOU ARE GETTING PAID MILLIONS TO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE... NOT TO BE POLITICAL.

SHUT UP.

We all have enough problems in our personal lives, that's called the human condition... and when we enter our favorite realm of entertainment, we want entertainment... we want an escape, a distraction... whatever you want to call it... not more political lectures. **** off with this shit. If I wanted political lectures I would seek that out... this shit keeps getting thrust in my face from all angles. It's exhausting.

Shut up and dribble asshole.

[Clippersfan86]

Ed Davis: I’m looking at it like: With where we’re at as a Black culture and how we’re so far behind when it comes to black people and the wealth we have, the money we have, us missing the rest of this season (and possibly next year), we’re talking about billions and billions of dollars for the black community because a lot of guys in the NBA are black men from the inner cities and things like that.

So, the way I look at it, we have to play for that simple fact. I saw Stephen Jackson say that we can’t play because it’s going to be a distraction. Yeah, it’s going to be a distraction, but we can take that money – those billions and billions of dollars – that we’re going to make and pour it back in the community. You can look at it like that – that us losing out on that money would hurt generations of people.

For me, I make $5 million a year and I’m taking a 25-percent pay cut [due to COVID-19], so I’m losing around $30,000 every two weeks. That’s hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that’s what is creating generational wealth and that’s what is really going to help the black community. I don’t know if guys are looking at it like that. But that’s just my perspective and the reason why I think we need to play.

I get it, we need to take a stand; we got to do this, we got to do that. But you got to have money to do some of these things and make some of these things happen. [Change] isn’t just gonna happen because of us boycotting and not playing and shutting it down. And then, we’re really gonna be set back."


Ed Davis flexing that IQ on mental midgets like Kyrie and Dwight.

[RRR3]

Ed Davis: I’m looking at it like: With where we’re at as a Black culture and how we’re so far behind when it comes to black people and the wealth we have, the money we have, us missing the rest of this season (and possibly next year), we’re talking about billions and billions of dollars for the black community because a lot of guys in the NBA are black men from the inner cities and things like that.

So, the way I look at it, we have to play for that simple fact. I saw Stephen Jackson say that we can’t play because it’s going to be a distraction. Yeah, it’s going to be a distraction, but we can take that money – those billions and billions of dollars – that we’re going to make and pour it back in the community. You can look at it like that – that us losing out on that money would hurt generations of people.

For me, I make $5 million a year and I’m taking a 25-percent pay cut [due to COVID-19], so I’m losing around $30,000 every two weeks. That’s hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that’s what is creating generational wealth and that’s what is really going to help the black community. I don’t know if guys are looking at it like that. But that’s just my perspective and the reason why I think we need to play.

I get it, we need to take a stand; we got to do this, we got to do that. But you got to have money to do some of these things and make some of these things happen. [Change] isn’t just gonna happen because of us boycotting and not playing and shutting it down. And then, we’re really gonna be set back."


Ed Davis flexing that IQ on mental midgets like Kyrie and Dwight.
Great points by Davis for sure.

[Im Still Ballin]

we must seize the means of production.

[rawimpact]

It's funny how twitter attacks Ed Davis saying that he himself has earned over 40M himself... as if he can't speak up for the youngins.

It's called empathy. There are guys who have finally made it and are needing the money.

I remember being in undergrad and could stretch 100 bucks a long ways. Now? 100 bucks is gone on a dinner date with the wife. Point being just because you make more money doesn't mean money is plentiful. Everyone wants to enjoy and maintain the quality of life they've earned.

[Shogon]

Point being just because you make more money doesn't mean money is plentiful. Everyone wants to enjoy and maintain the quality of life they've earned.

Ok, Patrick Ewing. Whatever you say.

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-we-might-make-a-lot-of-money-but-we-also-spend-a-lot-of-money-patrick-ewing-56-15-66.jpg

[rawimpact]

Ok, Patrick Ewing. Whatever you say.

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-we-might-make-a-lot-of-money-but-we-also-spend-a-lot-of-money-patrick-ewing-56-15-66.jpg

Best you got?

Lets name a random player from the 2nd round of the NBA draft

Marial Shayok... finally made the NBA and has made 80k total. Are you telling me he's not financially struggling or that he agrees with dwight and Irving from a financial standpoint? His situation is much different than theirs.

[Shogon]

Best you got?

Lets name a random player from the 2nd round of the NBA draft

Marial Shayok... finally made the NBA and has made 80k total. Are you telling me he's not financially struggling or that he agrees with dwight and Irving from a financial standpoint? His situation is much different than theirs.

What are you even talking about? I'm not arguing about anything player related. I'm laughing at your face because your quote about your personal life sounds like the stupid shit Patrick Ewing once said.

Nobody is forcing you to spend the money. Shut up.

[rawimpact]

What are you even talking about? I'm not arguing about anything player related. I'm laughing at your face because your quote about your personal life sounds like the stupid shit Patrick Ewing once said.

Nobody is forcing you to spend the money. Shut up.

So who is going to pay for the mortgage or the other life expenses you idiot?
The NBA is so world renowned for educating its employees with good financial decisions right?

[Kblaze8855]

Kyrie is full of shit. So is Dwight.

Just give it all back and step out of the limelight. Nobody is going to care. But Kyrie won't do that... lol. We all know, it's fine. I don't judge him for that. I judge him for his fake political messages that are on hallow ground just like LeBron and the rest of these woke PC leftists that haven't a clue about life.

And this isn't racial when I say this... shut up and dribble. I do not care about the political opinions of Kyrie Irving, LeBron James, Dwight Howard, Larry Bird, Tom Hanks, Tom Hardy, Leonardo Dicaprio, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Oprah Winfrey, etc... I DON'T CARE.

YOU ARE GETTING PAID MILLIONS TO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE... NOT TO BE POLITICAL.

SHUT UP.

We all have enough problems in our personal lives, that's called the human condition... and when we enter our favorite realm of entertainment, we want entertainment... we want an escape, a distraction... whatever you want to call it... not more political lectures. **** off with this shit. If I wanted political lectures I would seek that out... this shit keeps getting thrust in my face from all angles. It's exhausting.

Shut up and dribble asshole.



One thing I don’t get about this line of thinking is how often I hear it from people who always make their political feelings known. I never hear it from people not prone to talk politics.


It makes me wonder....at what point of success do you feel other people shouldn’t also have opinions?


The world caring more about their opinions than yours doesn’t mean they lose the right to it or need to keep it quiet.

People will literally find them to ask their opinion. A reporter will hear they are eating some place and drive over to catch them coming out and ask for a take.

We blaming them for having the attention of the masses or the masses for giving it to them? Obviously someone wants their opinions. Not me...but someone. People do go ask for it.

[Shogon]

One thing I don’t get about this line of thinking is how often I hear it from people who always make their political feelings known. I never hear it from people not prone to talk politics.


It makes me wonder....at what point of success do you feel other people shouldn’t also have opinions?


The world caring more about their opinions than yours doesn’t mean they lose the right to it or need to keep it quiet.

People will literally find them to ask their opinion. A reporter will hear they are eating some place and drive over to catch them coming out and ask for a take.

We blaming them for having the attention of the masses or the masses for giving it to them? Obviously someone wants their opinions. Not me...but someone. People do go ask for it.

What? I am not a representation of everyone. My feelings are my own. Just because some people want to hear their takes doesn't mean that I personally want to hear their takes. I don't.

As for them? They're entitled to their opinions... whether they agree with me or not, I don't care... I don't want to hear the shit. They aren't in any way contributing to my bottom line. I am contributing to theirs. They're public figures, I'm not. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but that's a fact. I pay them. They don't pay me. Let's not get into splitting hairs about how I could stop watching and they wouldn't feel it, ok? I'm aware, technically speaking... but ultimately I do contribute to their bottom line. They are providing a service to help me escape my life if only for a moment and they're polluting it with this garbage. I don't provide an escape for them. This is pretty simplistic stuff. If it doesn't stop, I will eventually vote with my attention... and they won't feel it from me personally, I know. But, it is what it is. C'est la vie.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Assuming he's being genuine I would lkie to know if Irving thinks he'd do more to help black people by attending one march or donating a gam check to a school that's being underfunded or loaning it to a business in a black neighborhood? Having thought about it a little more I strongly disagree with the idea that players boycotting their jobs to join the sea of celebrity protest is the best way to help black people in America. Andtheir protests will also get more attention if they're doing it in an NBA playoff broadcast than if they're on some street with a megaphone. The news media is going to be focused on politicians and bigger stars. Sports media will be focused on the returning sports. The only guy that might get major nationwide attention is James and he's getting that attention no matter what he does.Irving himself isn't that kind of star. There's far more discussion about him missing the restart than whatver issues he himself is talking about. How many of us know how he wants to see the police reformed or what he wants the government or NBA to do for black people? Talking specific ideas here, not just "fight systemic racism." Earl Lloyd, Chuck Cooper and Nat Clifton's debutswere a major symbolic victory for the civil rights movement and the NBA has created generational wealth for a lot of black people. Being an NBA player is about as privileged as it gets for non-bllionaires and has created/is creating a few new black billionaires. The kind of money they would let go is power in this country. Nothing they will say or do in these rallies, which right or wrong are always echo-chambers, is going to be the equal of what they could do with the money they won't earn.

[Boarman1]

I appreciate where Kyrie and Dwight's hears are, but if they play they will get more money. When someone has more money they have more power and influence, they can donate more money to charities

Also, it's not like people are going to completely stop protesting. People can time manage, protest for a couple of hours, work if you have to, and then watch hoops at night

[Norcaliblunt]

The best way to protest is for the players to circumvent the NBA completely, stream the games themselves on YouTube, and the money they make doing that goes straight to charity. Imagine if they did something like the all star game where you have superstar team leaders pick super teams and they all go at it in a tournament. The George Floyd/Covid 19 classic. They could manage everything on their own terms. Without fans in the stands it’s a stupid business move to play for the NBA. In this era of do it yourself media why do you need the NBA when you aren’t even using the infrastructure of stadiums and fans in the crowd?

[Norcaliblunt]

I appreciate where Kyrie and Dwight's hears are, but if they play they will get more money. When someone has more money they have more power and influence, they can donate more money to charities

Also, it's not like people are going to completely stop protesting. People can time manage, protest for a couple of hours, work if you have to, and then watch hoops at night

The money you make gets taxed and goes right to the police.

[FultzNationRISE]

The best way to protest is for the players to circumvent the NBA completely, stream the games themselves on YouTube, and the money they make doing that goes straight to charity. Imagine if they did something like the all star game where you have superstar team leaders pick super teams and they all go at it in a tournament. The George Floyd/Covid 19 classic. They could manage everything on their own terms. Without fans in the stands it’s a stupid business move to play for the NBA. In this era of do it yourself media why do you need the NBA when you aren’t even using the infrastructure of stadiums and fans in the crowd?


The probable answer is they have clauses in their contracts that prohibit such things, and in doing so would essentially be forfeiting their guaranteed NBA revenue.

[Norcaliblunt]

The probable answer is they have clauses in their contracts that prohibit such things, and in doing so would essentially be forfeiting their guaranteed NBA revenue.

It would be a major revolution in sports. Of course there would be some money lost at first, but in the end these African American players will own all their own basketball content which will be way more valuable in the long run. It also sets an example on how to be great leaders in getting things done themselves.

[light]

According to Dwight's agent, Dwight didn't mean he wasn't going to play, he just meant that there are more important things than basketball. Some BS like that. Obvious damage control.

In any case, 100% Dwight is going to play.

[Smoke117]

According to Dwight's agent, Dwight didn't mean he wasn't going to play, he just meant that there are more important things than basketball. Some BS like that. Obvious damage control.

In any case, 100% Dwight is going to play.

lol Of Course Dwight is going to play...he's got a of baby mama's to pay.

[dbugz]

If they don't want to go because of the effin virus, sure it's their call, can't argue with it. It's them and their families lives are at stake.

But if it's because returning will be a deterrent to the momentum that black people are fighting for is a total BS!

Imagine how many Americans and people around the world are going to watch the nba once it return again? That is a hell of a big stage to show to everybody what "black live matters" is all about. Is he even thinking about it? :facepalm

This is much worse than his earth is flat drama. From one of my favorite player to border line another one that I hate the most :facepalm :facepalm

[FultzNationRISE]

It would be a major revolution in sports. Of course there would be some money lost at first, but in the end these African American players will own all their own basketball content which will be way more valuable in the long run. It also sets an example on how to be great leaders in getting things done themselves.


Youre right, but most of these guys play basketball for the same reason most people program software or fix plumbing or drive city busses for large employers.

Most humans are trained to be specialists and dont have a ton of gift for abstraction and taking initiative, which is what being entrepreneurial is all about.

The guys who own NBA teams are the kind of people who come up with a business plan and create a model and start a league etc. Not the guys who throw the ball around.

It might appeal to the small number of players who could lead on such an issue, but for the rest it is too much risk. I can personally relate to what youre suggesting, but most cannot. The majority will prefer to play it safe than take a risk on something new and uncertain.

[Im Still Ballin]

What? I am not a representation of everyone. My feelings are my own. Just because some people want to hear their takes doesn't mean that I personally want to hear their takes. I don't.

As for them? They're entitled to their opinions... whether they agree with me or not, I don't care... I don't want to hear the shit. They aren't in any way contributing to my bottom line. I am contributing to theirs. They're public figures, I'm not. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but that's a fact. I pay them. They don't pay me. Let's not get into splitting hairs about how I could stop watching and they wouldn't feel it, ok? I'm aware, technically speaking... but ultimately I do contribute to their bottom line. They are providing a service to help me escape my life if only for a moment and they're polluting it with this garbage. I don't provide an escape for them. This is pretty simplistic stuff. If it doesn't stop, I will eventually vote with my attention... and they won't feel it from me personally, I know. But, it is what it is. C'est la vie.


Assuming he's being genuine I would lkie to know if Irving thinks he'd do more to help black people by attending one march or donating a gam check to a school that's being underfunded or loaning it to a business in a black neighborhood? Having thought about it a little more I strongly disagree with the idea that players boycotting their jobs to join the sea of celebrity protest is the best way to help black people in America. Andtheir protests will also get more attention if they're doing it in an NBA playoff broadcast than if they're on some street with a megaphone. The news media is going to be focused on politicians and bigger stars. Sports media will be focused on the returning sports. The only guy that might get major nationwide attention is James and he's getting that attention no matter what he does.Irving himself isn't that kind of star. There's far more discussion about him missing the restart than whatver issues he himself is talking about. How many of us know how he wants to see the police reformed or what he wants the government or NBA to do for black people? Talking specific ideas here, not just "fight systemic racism." Earl Lloyd, Chuck Cooper and Nat Clifton's debutswere a major symbolic victory for the civil rights movement and the NBA has created generational wealth for a lot of black people. Being an NBA player is about as privileged as it gets for non-bllionaires and has created/is creating a few new black billionaires. The kind of money they would let go is power in this country. Nothing they will say or do in these rallies, which right or wrong are always echo-chambers, is going to be the equal of what they could do with the money they won't earn.

What the hell is wrong with you guys? Break those paragraphs up.

[nashwade]

can people not play sports AND protest at the same time? is it really that hard? wear some protest jerseys while you're out on the floor, cool?

not being selfish as a fan but I see more positives from playing than not playing if they want to make a point

[Marchesk]

can people not play sports AND protest at the same time? is it really that hard? wear some protest jerseys while you're out on the floor, cool?

They can also spend the next six weeks protesting before the NBA season starts. Damn, you'd think the NBA was starting day one of the George Floyd protests! It's been several weeks of protests already, the NBA restarting at the end of July isn't going to distract from anything other than the second wave of Covid.

[FultzNationRISE]

can people not play sports AND protest at the same time? is it really that hard? wear some protest jerseys while you're out on the floor, cool?

not being selfish as a fan but I see more positives from playing than not playing if they want to make a point


Also, LOL at the idea of "protesting" being the big important thing.

The typical liberal sjw checkers player can never figure out what the next step is beyond 'protesting.' So that's all they end up doing.

And that's why they always stay losing.

Because they're the inept and incapable. All they can do is whine, they dont have any ideas or solutions that don't involve begging others to clean up everything for them, which is never gonna happen. They can never do anything for themselves except march, kneel, put a fist up, and other brainless symbolic demonstrations designed to signal to others how woke they want to be perceived.

Dudes like Kyrie are lucky as fvck he's able to dribble a ball in fancy ways. Otherwise he'd be another pathetic loser shitting on the sidewalk in the Seattle CHAZ

[Whoah10115]

What? I am not a representation of everyone. My feelings are my own. Just because some people want to hear their takes doesn't mean that I personally want to hear their takes. I don't.

As for them? They're entitled to their opinions... whether they agree with me or not, I don't care... I don't want to hear the shit. They aren't in any way contributing to my bottom line. I am contributing to theirs. They're public figures, I'm not. I'm sorry if you don't agree, but that's a fact. I pay them. They don't pay me. Let's not get into splitting hairs about how I could stop watching and they wouldn't feel it, ok? I'm aware, technically speaking... but ultimately I do contribute to their bottom line. They are providing a service to help me escape my life if only for a moment and they're polluting it with this garbage. I don't provide an escape for them. This is pretty simplistic stuff. If it doesn't stop, I will eventually vote with my attention... and they won't feel it from me personally, I know. But, it is what it is. C'est la vie.

I don't think you actually get what he's saying. I agree with Kyrie being hollow, but think about what you said.

Shut up and dribble...I'm not taking it as a racial thing. But you're claiming that you're not a representation of everyone else, while saying shut up and dribble.

You are deciding to speak for everyone else. And btw, 5 years ago, you could have added Donald Trump to that list...and now?

He's what he is, fine, but point stands. If you want to make it clear you see things as you do, then fine, but don't use a tool like Irving as an excuse to make note of your contribution to their bottom line.

That sounds stupid. Now someone is gonna mistake me for someone in support of what Irving's bullshit ass represents.

Escapism is bullshit btw. Stop whining.

[Marchesk]

Also, LOL at the idea of "protesting" being the big important thing.

The typical liberal sjw checkers player can never figure out what the next step is beyond 'protesting.' So that's all they end up doing.

And that's why they always stay losing.

They could just attend the upcoming indoor Trump rally in Tulsa where masks are not required instead. That will show America and Covid-19 who's dominant!

Biden/King James 2020!

[Norcaliblunt]

The strike is to remind people that the reason there’s no ballgames is because of racist cops. If everyone gets what they want no one cares about racist cops. It’s pretty simple. When there’s no games you are forced to have to keep watching the news for entertainment.

[FultzNationRISE]

They could just attend the upcoming indoor Trump rally in Tulsa where masks are not required instead. That will show America and Covid-19 who's dominant!

Biden/King James 2020!


Hey.

You ok?

[Norcaliblunt]

Youre right, but most of these guys play basketball for the same reason most people program software or fix plumbing or drive city busses for large employers.

Most humans are trained to be specialists and dont have a ton of gift for abstraction and taking initiative, which is what being entrepreneurial is all about.

The guys who own NBA teams are the kind of people who come up with a business plan and create a model and start a league etc. Not the guys who throw the ball around.

It might appeal to the small number of players who could lead on such an issue, but for the rest it is too much risk. I can personally relate to what youre suggesting, but most cannot. The majority will prefer to play it safe than take a risk on something new and uncertain.

I hear you but they could run it like a cooperative and that really makes it worth it for the average players. In fact the average players are the ones who should do it. They’ll get a bigger piece of the pie. Superstars can’t play all by themselves.

[Marchesk]

The strike is to remind people that the reason there’s no ballgames is because of racist cops. If everyone gets what they want no one cares about racist cops. It’s pretty simple. When there’s no games you are forced to have to keep watching the news for entertainment.

Uhhh, the reason there's no sports is because of the pandemic. I'm not aware of any strike.

[Norcaliblunt]

Uhhh, the reason there's no sports is because of the pandemic. I'm not aware of any strike.

The potential strike/not playing Kyrie is talking about. Duh.

[Norcaliblunt]

What’s a bigger story? Athletes kneeling for the millionth time? Or the players not playing sitting out until progress is made?

[Marchesk]

The potential strike/not playing Kyrie is talking about. Duh.

Sure, he can be joined by Dwight and Carmelo. That will have us all watching Trump and Covid news updates instead.

[Axe]

Poor superman if he won't play.

I've heard the lakers were 21-1 whenever he scores at least 10 points

[light]

What’s a bigger story? Athletes kneeling for the millionth time? Or the players not playing sitting out until progress is made?

The rich Republican kid (Kyrie) sitting out is only a story because of how cringeworthy he is.

[Marchesk]

The rich Republican kid (Kyrie) sitting out is only a story because of how cringeworthy he is.

He should protest the structural racism of the Democratic Party selecting Joe "You ain't black if you vote Trump" Biden.