You've been convinced we can't afford a better country. They're lying to you.

[RRR3]

Look at how much money the ****ing government has spent during the pandemic. And mostly to bail out big business. Look at how much money we spend on the military. Look at how much money we spend on a clearly corrupt and evil criminal justice system. Instead of spending money to harm American citizens and people overseas, we could actually be using this money to be addressing the issues of people not having access to healthcare (imagine denying someone the right to live because they don't have enough money :roll:), income inequality, the influence of money in politics, criminal justice reform and the environment. And the government and media have convinced so many of you this is super duper scaaaaaaaarrrrrry Communism that will turn us into the Stalin-era Soviet Union. Look at how the media treated the one candidate actually trying to address these issues (Bernie Sanders). We had idiots like Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd screeching about how horrible he was and inferring he was a Nazi (a Jewish Nazi :roll:). As usual, they manufactured consent, as Chomsky says, and outright rigged things in order to hand the Democratic nomination to a corporate, corrupt, lying, senile, warmongering racist rapist, just so he can run against Trump, who they have been telling us is literally Hitler because he is a....corporate, corrupt, lying, senile, warmongering (less than Biden so far though) racist rapist :roll: And now you're all left arguing about which one of your two candidates is less shit, as usual. The oligarchy doesn't really care if Biden or Trump wins (they prefer Biden, but they will accept Trump) as long as they can prevent a candidate who wants to actually change the system of predatory capitalism we live under.

[Shogon]

Reminder: We're broke and we can't actually afford any of this. We can't afford what this retard wants and we can't afford our military either. We can afford none of it.

We are broke.

The global central banking scheme is coming to an end.

Society is about to fall apart and people are going to be eating each other.

As for specific timeframes? Of course I don't know that, nobody knows precisely... but the bubble of everything is over.

The United States is in the second stage of collapse and the first stage was 2008.


Our debt has now topped 26 trillion. We've added TRILLIONS in the past few months alone. It is only a matter of time before a complete lack of faith collapses the entire system. It's coming.

[Axe]

You'll just end lighting up a cigarette and puffing for thinking all these crazy shit. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

I saw this online somewhere and it’s really true: if Bernie supporters had all voted Green last election, they never would have cheated him again this time. The Democratic Party would be finished if they did. I was too much of a dumbass liberal to know that in 2016 but I am proudly voting Green this year. When you keep accepting “well at least they’re not [Republican nominee]”, the Democrats see no reason to not keep moving farther right. Because they’ll get your vote anyways.

[Im Still Ballin]

Oh, you've done did it now, partner.

itsmillertime, rrr3, bladefd, theman, maxfly...


He's coming...

[Kblaze8855]

I guess it depends on how you look at it. We can’t “afford” anything considering our debt but we can keep buying shit by being irresponsible.

[Shogon]

I saw this online somewhere and it’s really true: if Bernie supporters had all voted Green last election, they never would have cheated him again this time. The Democratic Party would be finished if they did. I was too much of a dumbass liberal to know that in 2016 but I am proudly voting Green this year. When you keep accepting “well at least they’re not [Republican nominee]”, the Democrats see no reason to not keep moving farther right. Because they’ll get your vote anyways.

A green vote is a wasted vote. While your ideal about not accepting eating shit out of the dems it is correct, unfortunately reality does not play out that way. The only way to enact change is to get the congress to change our voting system. Good luck. In other words, that's not going to happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

Don't worry, though. Fear not. If you live through the collapse, Bitcoin will save us all. No more spending beyond our means. Bitcoin is here and it is coming for everyone and everything.

[FultzNationRISE]

Oh, you've done did it now, partner.

itsmillertime, rrr3, bladefd, theman, maxfly...


He's coming...


:yaohappy:


Cant see his posts, but having the least politically competent person in the room lecturing everyone else is usually a pretty silly scenario.

It’s a shame intelligence isnt as physically observable and indisputable as, say, height. You got everyone in the country walking around like they’re intellectually 7’2, when a ton of people like OP are actually 4’6. And even tho it’s obvious and everyone else knows it, theres no real way to convince HIM.

So he’ll keep on pretending.

[RRR3]

I guess it depends on how you look at it. We can’t “afford” anything considering our debt but we can keep buying shit by being irresponsible.
We can start paying off the debt by doing some of the changes I mentioned. Defund the police. Defund the military. No I’m not saying abolish them before anyone attacks me for that. And of course stop wasting money bailing out corporations and the banks.

[RRR3]

Starface puts me on ignore because he can’t argue with actual leftist talking points. He can only argue with liberals because they actually give him talking points. Typical coward only arguing with those he feels he can win against. He read every word I said but simply can’t muster up even a feeble comeback because everything I said is true and he knows it. Amazing projection in his post too. The dude wants us all to think he’s a genius and knows THE REAL TRUTH about politics but he stans Mr. Corporate Donald Trump. Yikes.

[Shogon]

Starface puts me on ignore because he can’t argue with actual leftist talking points. He can only argue with liberals because they actually give him talking points. Typical coward only arguing with those he feels he can win against. He read every word I said but simply can’t muster up even a feeble comeback because everything I said is true and he knows it. Amazing projection in his post too. The dude wants us all to think he’s a genius and knows THE REAL TRUTH about politics but he stans Mr. Corporate Donald Trump. Yikes.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/10/bs2.gif

[RRR3]

I’m literally saying a lot of the same stuff you guys say but I said Trump is a corporate stooge so you disregard everything else I said. Imagine being that slavishly devoted to a corporate stooge.

[Shogon]

You're voting third party. You're literally wasting your vote. You can't bring about change that way. It's mathematically impossible.

Let's just say, theoretically, that you were able to bring about change and end the democratic party and replace them with the greens... it would still end up a two party system with the same old bullshit.

I tried. C'est la vie.

[RRR3]

You're voting third party. You're literally wasting your vote. You can't bring about change that way. It's mathematically impossible.

Let's just say, theoretically, that you were able to bring about change and end the democratic party and replace them with the greens... it would still end up a two party system with the same old bullshit.

I tried. C'est la vie.
I never said my vote is worth anything, I just said I’m not voting for either of the two shitty choices we’re being given. This country isn’t going to change at all until one or both of the two major parties starts tackling the economic issues we’re faced with.

[FultzNationRISE]

You're voting third party. You're literally wasting your vote. You can't bring about change that way. It's mathematically impossible.

Let's just say, theoretically, that you were able to bring about change and end the democratic party and replace them with the greens... it would still end up a two party system with the same old bullshit.

I tried. C'est la vie.


What he doesnt get is that the root of inequality is not any government system.

It’s inequality itself.

Notice the correlation on this very board between being the least competent/capable/masculine and being the most extremely socialist.

He doesnt understand that people who have ability dont want to waste it carrying his ass. They want to use it, and invest the gains from it into things that interest them; whether that’s business, art, education, etc. They want control over the success their own talent has wrought. Theyre not interested in using the fruits of their labor to put a bunch of unproductive dweebs on the same footing as themselves for no reason. People want to have an edge over the masses, bc thats how you stay safe and get ladiez.

Thats the whole point of a free market. Everyone can put THEMSELF on an even footing if they have the ability and theyre motivated to do so. Nobody holds them back.

Rr3 is a naturally inferior male, so he doesnt have this perspective. He doesnt understand why he cant guilt people into carrying him. He really thinks a man is evolved to work for the benefit of a bunch of other men. He thinks that’s “teh science.”

He doesnt have genuine perspective on talent and success because he has none and never will. He cannot see the issue from a more alpha point of view. He’s like a blind guy walking around telling people their clothes are ugly.

[RRR3]

Also if enough people vote Green maybe we get a progressive in 2024. But it looks like Biden might win in which case we’ll just get a smarter version of Trump in 2024 running against Biden’s neoliberal VP. And the Democrats will be shocked they lose, having learned nothing from 2016.

[Im Still Ballin]

It's incredibly naive to think that there aren't structures that enable inequality.

We can talk about redlining, we can talk about gerrymandering, we can talk about felony disenfranchisement, "black laws"

The list goes on and on...

[Shogon]

What he doesnt get is that the root of inequality is not any government system.

It’s inequality itself.

Truth. You can't regulate people to be equal. Life isn't fair. This is the core issue that a large portion of the left will never accept or understand. People deserve equal rights but that's about it. Everyone's abilities and circumstances will never be 100% fair and 100% equal. That. is. life.

But... government systems can in fact and typically do create inequality... regardless of the government type, the leaders and the citizenry always have a gap wedged between them. Government officials are power seeking psychopaths. Governments are... bad.

[RRR3]

Between Starface’s obsession with masculinity and his constant fixation on other posters, I’m really starting to suspect the poor fella is deep in the closet and ashamed to come out.

[warriorfan]

Oh, you've done did it now, partner.

itsmillertime, rrr3, bladefd, theman, maxfly...


He's coming...

:roll:



:banana:

[Im Still Ballin]

What about cash bonds? How is it fair to those of lower socioeconomic backgrounds?


What about tax loopholes only accessible to the rich and powerful?

[RRR3]

Truth. You can't regulate people to be equal. Life isn't fair. This is the core issue that a large portion of the left will never accept or understand. People deserve equal rights but that's about it. Everyone's abilities and circumstances will never be 100% fair and 100% equal. That. is. life.
There are absolutely no serious candidates who argue for things like that. Nor will there be. You guys can continue screeching about me being a limp wristed communist tranny or you can actually realize that implementing more equality doesn’t mean a system in which everyone is forced to be equal and eventually one person gains all the power a la Stalin. The thought of poor people having access to medical care has you apoplectic. Why? No one said life is fair, but it doesn’t have to be as unfair as America makes it. Are you aware that there are other countries that implement some of the stuff Bernie talks about and have a far higher average standard of living than we do?

[FultzNationRISE]

It's incredibly naive to think that there aren't structures that enable inequality.

We can talk about redlining, we can talk about gerrymandering, we can talk about felony disenfranchisement, "black laws"

The list goes on and on...


The more power you give to the government in the first place, the more harshly these kinds of things can be exploited.

Nothing is perfect, and sometimes things like “cash bonds” are simply imperfect but necessary solutions, the lesser of two evils, because you cant let someone charged with a serious crime go free without some kind of collateral, or theyll never show back up in court, and we’ll spend even more money and “risk more lives” having police go execute search warrants on them.

However, any kind of gerrymandering etc that is done solely for exploitation, Im all for reforming. Bc Im sensible enough to analyze when things are unfortunate realities vs obvious corruptions. You dont have that capability. You simply chalk EVERYTHING up to injustice because you lack whatever fold in the cortex is responsible for nuance.

[Shogon]

There are absolutely no serious candidates who argue for things like that. Nor will there be. You guys can continue screeching about me being a limp wristed communist tranny or you can actually realize that implementing more equality doesn’t mean a system in which everyone is forced to be equal and eventually one person gains all the power a la Stalin. The thought of poor people having access to medical care has you apoplectic. Why? No one said life is fair, but it doesn’t have to be as unfair as America makes it. Are you aware that there are other countries that implement some of the stuff Bernie talks about and have a far higher average standard of living than we do?

https://youtu.be/StNCmOBDIag?t=165

[Im Still Ballin]

There are absolutely no serious candidates who argue for things like that. Nor will there be. You guys can continue screeching about me being a limp wristed communist tranny or you can actually realize that implementing more equality doesn’t mean a system in which everyone is forced to be equal and eventually one person gains all the power a la Stalin. The thought of poor people having access to medical care has you apoplectic. Why? No one said life is fair, but it doesn’t have to be as unfair as America makes it. Are you aware that there are other countries that implement some of the stuff Bernie talks about and have a far higher average standard of living than we do?

Dude, it's like these guys completely disregard the impact of generational wealth, socioeconomic status...

Complete disregard for social, political and historical influences


As if it primarily comes down to some ham-handed "human nature" concept

[Shogon]

"Don't abandon the idea that it isn't finite." That about sums it up.

[RRR3]

https://youtu.be/StNCmOBDIag?t=165
Am I supposed to care what Morgan Freeman thinks? If you're saying it's TECHNICALLY possible for any individual with all their mental faculties to become rich in America, sure, that's true in a vacuum. Do you actually think it's likely, or even the least bit probably for many impoverished people though? Or is everyone as capable of being as gifted of a thespian as Morgan Freeman?

[warriorfan]

Dude, it's like these guys completely disregard the impact of generational wealth, socioeconomic status...

Complete disregard for social, political and historical influences


As if it primarily comes down to some ham-handed "human nature" concept

The truth is at some point they are going to have to start cutting some people off if people want to maintain a certain quality of life. It already happens to an extent but with overpopulation being a problem that is getting worse before it gets better, it’s going to start accelerating. There’s going to be some hard decisions to be made. But you can’t make an omelet without cracking a few eggs.

In addition there probably would be enough if there was ever proper oversight to weed out the inefficiencies and corruption...but the first scenario has a far far higher chance of happening before anything like that gets gets implemented.

[Shogon]

Am I supposed to care what Morgan Freeman thinks? If you're saying it's TECHNICALLY possible for any individual with all their mental faculties to become rich in America, sure, that's true in a vacuum. Do you actually think it's likely, or even the least bit probably for many impoverished people though? Or is everyone as capable of being as gifted of a thespian as Morgan Freeman?

No, I don't think it's likely, because I think most people buy into the same dog shit mindset that you have of limiting themselves. And at the risk of contradicting myself... yes, some people are born into completely ****ed up situations and they certainly don't choose their genetics. Free will is just an illusion and we don't actually make any choices despite it seeming like we do, but I digress.

That aside, there will always be a lower class. You can't regulate financial equality without destroying the drive to produce. What else is there to know about this?

It's scientifically proven that people are unhappy psychologically about the idea of a wealth gap regardless if their own living conditions are drastically improved. It's a classic "keeping up with the Jones" mentality that spreads throughout all of humanity. It is life. You can't regulate that psychological aspect out of existence. It will always be there unless you regulate away rich people. Good luck with that.

[Shogon]

The truth is at some point we are going to have to start cutting some people off if we want to maintain a certain quality of life. It already happens to an extent but with over population being a problem that is gettin worse before it gets better, it’s going to start accelerating sooner or later. There’s going to be some hard decisions to be made. But you can’t make an omelet without cracking a few eggs unfortunately.

The fats go first.

The fats go first for oh so many different reasons.

[RRR3]

No, I don't think it's likely, because I think most people buy into the same dog shit mindset that you have of limiting themselves. And at the risk of contradicting myself... yes, some people are born into completely ****ed up situations and they certainly don't choose their genetics. Free will is just an illusion and we don't actually make any choices despite it seeming like we do, but I digress.

That aside, there will always be a lower class. You can't regulate financial equality without destroying the drive to produce. What else is there to know about this?

It's scientifically proven that people are unhappy psychologically about the idea of a wealth gap regardless if their own living conditions are drastically improved. It's a classic "keeping up with the Jones" mentality that spreads throughout all of humanity. It is life. You can't regulate that psychological aspect out of existence. It will always be there unless you regulate away rich people. Good luck with that.
So your argument is that because we can’t make it perfect and people will always be unhappy we shouldn’t even make it better? :biggums:

[Shogon]

So your argument is that because we can’t make it perfect and people will always be unhappy we shouldn’t even make it better? :biggums:

People will always be unhappy. This is a truth. Given that truth, what are you fighting against exactly? Do you even know?

[RRR3]

People will always be unhappy. This is a truth. Given that truth, what are you fighting against exactly? Do you even know?
I’m fighting against your idea that we should just accept the current system because even if we make it better people will still be unhappy.

[Im Still Ballin]

So your argument is that because we can’t make it perfect and people will always be unhappy we shouldn’t even make it better? :biggums:

Jesus christ.

He can't be serious... Can he?

[warriorfan]

There might be enough to go around if there wasn’t rampant corruption and bureaucracy...but it’s much more likely there will be a massive depopulation of some sort before that gets fixed.

[Shogon]

I’m fighting against your idea that we should just accept the current system because even if we make it better people will still be unhappy.

At what point exactly will the crusade of equality end?

[LoneyROY7]

Jesus christ.

He can't be serious... Can he?

He doesn't have time to explain it further to you. Sorry.

[Shogon]

He doesn't have time to explain it further to you. Sorry.

:applause:

[Shogon]

There might be enough to go around if there wasn’t rampant corruption and bureaucracy...but it’s much more likely there will be a massive depopulation of some sort before that gets fixed.

The depopulation is coming. It won't be pretty.

[FultzNationRISE]

No, I don't think it's likely, because I think most people buy into the same dog shit mindset that you have of limiting themselves. And at the risk of contradicting myself... yes, some people are born into completely ****ed up situations and they certainly don't choose their genetics. Free will is just an illusion and we don't actually make any choices despite it seeming like we do, but I digress.

That aside, there will always be a lower class. You can't regulate financial equality without destroying the drive to produce. What else is there to know about this?

It's scientifically proven that people are unhappy psychologically about the idea of a wealth gap regardless if their own living conditions are drastically improved. It's a classic "keeping up with the Jones" mentality that spreads throughout all of humanity. It is life. You can't regulate that psychological aspect out of existence. It will always be there unless you regulate away rich people. Good luck with that.


The funny thing about people like OP too is they are bullied by media morality to accept labor disruption in the form of immigration. Thats the workaround that wealthy Special Interests have relied on to corner the free market.

Denmark doesnt have a minimum wage, for instance. Germany didnt until 2015, when they started bringing in tons of fugees. When you have a limited population, they have more wage leverage. Theres no need for artificial government regulation.

Countries only adopt minimum wages to keep foreign immigrants from being exploited too obviously, because some of them will work for a dollar a day if theyre desperate enough. If they dont have family here they can stay with, or they dont know the language well enough to find other jobs. Theyll work for anything just to survive. Itll be bad optics for the corporate controlled “workers party.”

Big business would rather just give them a minimum wage of 10/hr than have Americans develop enough leverage to command 25/hr.

And OP doesnt have the guts to say it. There will inevitably be some cringey granola hippies who will claim immigration reform is racist, so the media spotlights them on purpose, and the rest of the natural followers like OP will see other those publicly spotlighted “counter culturalists” being pro sanctuary city, and he’ll think hes supposed to feel the same.

If OP wants cooperative wealth equality, he should START with issues he knows the other side can get on board with. Some sensible common ground.

But hes not a leader, so he wont. None of his liberal idols are leading the way, and he wont go first. He’ll stick to the divisive narrative the media has pushed him toward.

Hes destined to always be a subservient turd.

[Shogon]

The minimum wage hurts the lowest earners. It also pushes people too incompetent to deserve the mark that current minimum wage is set at... out of the job market entirely... and their bill has to be picked up by the rest of us.

The minimum wage is a scam.

[Im Still Ballin]

Ah yes, the magical "free market"

It just magically solves literally every problem

"basic economics bro"

[FultzNationRISE]

The minimum wage hurts the lowest earners. It also pushes people too incompetent to deserve the mark that current minimum wage is set at... out of the job market entirely... and their bill has to be picked up by the rest of us.

The minimum wage is a scam.


It’s a GREAT political tool for getting votes tho.



Simple fools like Soycuck3 and LooneyROY will always be food for the ambitious.

Always.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Reminder: We're broke and we can't actually afford any of this. We can't afford what this retard wants and we can't afford our military either. We can afford none of it.

We are broke.

The global central banking scheme is coming to an end.

Society is about to fall apart and people are going to be eating each other.

As for specific timeframes? Of course I don't know that, nobody knows precisely... but the bubble of everything is over.

The United States is in the second stage of collapse and the first stage was 2008.


Our debt has now topped 26 trillion. We've added TRILLIONS in the past few months alone. It is only a matter of time before a complete lack of faith collapses the entire system. It's coming.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZgVNxhU04

[LoneyROY7]

It’s a GREAT political tool for getting votes tho.



Simple fools like Soycuck3 and LooneyROY will always be food for the ambitious.

Always.

Well, I know you not eating me then.

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Shogon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZgVNxhU04

Sounds about right. LUL.

[FultzNationRISE]

Well, I know you not eating me then.

:oldlol: :oldlol:


Im not financially ambitious, I’m artistically ambitious.

So we’re both correct.

Im not eatin off you.

But youre still food.

[LoneyROY7]

Im not financially ambitious, I’m artistically ambitious.

So we’re both correct.

Im not eatin off you.

But youre still food.

Damn, your artistic ambition is inspirational.

That next ISH essay is gonna be the breakthrough!!

:yaohappy:

[RRR3]

Why is starface still retarded enough to think I’m a liberal? I’m not for open borders.

[Shogon]

Why is starface still retarded enough to think I’m a liberal? I’m not for open borders.

At what exact point does the march for equality end? That's all I want to know.

[FultzNationRISE]

Damn, your artistic ambition is inspirational.

That next ISH essay is gonna be the breakthrough!!

:yaohappy:


Well, it’s at least somethin of my own I can take pride in.

Imagine me having to rely exclusively on James Harden scoring basketballs to provide some source of pride or self esteem in my real life :lol



Oh.


Sorry. :(

[LoneyROY7]

Well, it’s at least somethin of my own I can take pride in.

Imagine me having to rely exclusively on James Harden scoring basketballs to provide some source of pride or self esteem in my real life :lol



Oh.


Sorry. :(

Except I don't. At all. :oldlol:

But that's all you can manage as an attempted insult, so carry on bud.

[warriorfan]

Hey

Change Tommy’s password back

[TommyGriffin]

Hey

Change Tommy’s password back

Hey.

No.

[falc39]

Just to show a little how bad it's gotten, the Fed recently announced it would be buying low grade individual corporate bonds: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/the-fed-says-it-is-going-to-start-buying-individual-corporate-bonds.html. This is happening as we are hitting deficits on the scale of a trillion a month.

The plundering of the taxpayers continues to reach higher levels as winners are constantly being chosen over and over again by our political institutions. It's a shit show, a complete shit show that should have every American in tears if we weren't so stupid and ignorant to realize what is going on.

[FultzNationRISE]

Except I don't. At all. :oldlol:

But that's all you can manage as an attempted insult, so carry on.


That’s quite alright. Ive wasted too much time on here for the day as it is.

Made some nice progress over the last week reducing my posting time, but did a bit of a backslide the past couple days. Gotta check myself!

Im callin it a night.


Edit: I see falc just posted.

I wanna stick to my word and not make another new post tonight.

So Ill just ask him in this one.

What are you doing about it? What should we do about it?

Ill check back for an answer tomorrow.

[Im Still Ballin]

Hey.

No.

:kobe:

:roll:

[warriorfan]

Hey.

No.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2018/yH38C0.gif

[TommyGriffin]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2018/yH38C0.gif

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xT1XGESDlxj0GwoDRe/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[warriorfan]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xT1XGESDlxj0GwoDRe/giphy-downsized-large.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/jGeuf0mcBdh3q/giphy.gif

[TommyGriffin]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jGeuf0mcBdh3q/giphy.gif

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0da76455716459056fa658cfe819f94f/tenor.gif

[warriorfan]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0da76455716459056fa658cfe819f94f/tenor.gif

https://media1.tenor.com/images/86795077dacb11e422c70ada9bf3dea6/tenor.gif?itemid=13032814

[Proctor]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/86795077dacb11e422c70ada9bf3dea6/tenor.gif?itemid=13032814

Use this on him instead:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/55/be/7e55bec8287e6623d78021032b1d40d6.gif

[warriorfan]

Use this on him instead:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7e/55/be/7e55bec8287e6623d78021032b1d40d6.gif

Nah. He’s pretty cool for a James Harden fan. If he keeps getting stingy with the alts we will see though.

[Shogon]

Nah. He’s pretty cool for a James Harden fan. If he keeps getting stingy with the alts we will see though.

Stingy with the alts? What the ****? You make it sound like there's some ISH waiting room of posters and alts.

[warriorfan]

Stingy with the alts? What the ****? You make it sound like there's some ISH waiting room of posters and alts.

There was when you could pm people. But I didn’t even have any alts it was all Jameer and those guys. Loney hooked me up with TG at one time and weird ass Jameer had the password too for some reason. He never posted on it though. Jameer is the weirdest guy. Super creepy.

[warriorfan]

Well warriorfan alone has like 4-8 alts.

I don’t I only had TG when Loney and Jameer shared the password with me along time ago. I have tried a few times but it’s impossible. They never email you back.

[LoneyROY7]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/6uGhT1O4sxpi8/giphy.gif

[Proctor]

Stingy with the alts? What the ****? You make it sound like there's some ISH waiting room of posters and alts.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[RRR3]

At what exact point does the march for equality end? That's all I want to know.
Do you want my personal answer or an answer that will enable you not have a complete tantrum?

[diamenz]

bernie was right about one thing. the only way to enact change is when millions of people stand up together and demand it. blm forced a conversation, and now government is acting. even if it's just scraps, or a bone that's being thrown out there by our incompetent politicians.

[Hawker]

Also if enough people vote Green maybe we get a progressive in 2024. But it looks like Biden might win in which case we’ll just get a smarter version of Trump in 2024 running against Biden’s neoliberal VP. And the Democrats will be shocked they lose, having learned nothing from 2016.

You'd be better off campaigning for some kind of ranked choice voting other than first pass the post.

[Hawker]

Just to show a little how bad it's gotten, the Fed recently announced it would be buying low grade individual corporate bonds: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/the-fed-says-it-is-going-to-start-buying-individual-corporate-bonds.html. This is happening as we are hitting deficits on the scale of a trillion a month.

The plundering of the taxpayers continues to reach higher levels as winners are constantly being chosen over and over again by our political institutions. It's a shit show, a complete shit show that should have every American in tears if we weren't so stupid and ignorant to realize what is going on.

JohnConner (shogon alt?) was preaching the same thing on here and got told he was crazy. While it wasn't happening at the time he is now correct.

He should bump up that thread.

Speaking of the fed. Just got my $1200 stimulus check. Yeah boi.

[Charlie Sheen]

the government and media have convinced so many of you this is super duper scaaaaaaaarrrrrry Communism that will turn us into the Stalin-era Soviet Union.

It's healthcare this time. What happens when the cost of rent grows beyond the individual's budget? Does the government step in there and regulate property? The government you want to task with running a universal healthcare system is the same government that watched the healthcare industry lobby their way to where we are at now. Hell, the United States government cant even get states to follow conditions of the ACA that raise the income cutoff for medi-cal assistance.

Wages remain stagnant at low interest rates. Anyone who has been on government assistance knows that anything the government gives you, the government can take away. It's got nothing to do with the Soviet Union. I agree there's a serious problem with healthcare in the United States. If I was even 10 years younger, I'm not so sure I would've made it out from my parents house. Universal healthcare isn't going to solve that. Putting more money in the workers' pockets could make a difference though.

[falc39]

JohnConner (shogon alt?) was preaching the same thing on here and got told he was crazy. While it wasn't happening at the time he is now correct.

He should bump up that thread.

Speaking of the fed. Just got my $1200 stimulus check. Yeah boi.

At this point, people like him (and us) should just focus on saving themselves. It's the reality that most people don't really care and would rather argue about things that affect them at a more emotional level in the present. In the end, they will be the one's who will lose the most. Happens all the time throughout history. Nothing new under the sun.

Ah, funny you mentioned the stimulus checks. Did my taxes months ago and I'm still waiting for my tax refund. Apparently the government has enough resources and willpower to send free money checks to everyone while at the same time continuing to neglect basic taxpayer service. Such is the state of our government right now lol

[coin24]

Freedom!! Lol stupid fkn Americans :oldlol:

For starters the banks control the housing market, not the government. when they won't lend prices go down, when they drop the rates and give loans to everyone the prices rise. Your healthcare system is a joke, no public transport, roads and most other services are shit.

The countries with Medicare are funded by a 2% levy at tax time to fund it, you could easily set that up but I'm sure it wouldn't take long for it to be corrupted there. For some reason the pharmaceutical companies own you guys. No one else in the world lets those scum advertise the rubbish products like they do there..

Maybe if you didn't have 500 levels of government it would help. Most other counties have the leader and opposition party, who will campaign fo a few months before the election. You idiots have years of campaigning and bs before even selecting a candidate, then 6 more months of crap before the actual election:lol

[Axe]

I don’t I only had TG when Loney and Jameer shared the password with me along time ago. I have tried a few times but it’s impossible. They never email you back.
Your monta ellis mvp dup, i haven't seen it for weeks or a month now.

[Rooster]

Reminder: We're broke and we can't actually afford any of this. We can't afford what this retard wants and we can't afford our military either. We can afford none of it.

We are broke.

The global central banking scheme is coming to an end.

Society is about to fall apart and people are going to be eating each other.

As for specific timeframes? Of course I don't know that, nobody knows precisely... but the bubble of everything is over.

The United States is in the second stage of collapse and the first stage was 2008.


Our debt has now topped 26 trillion. We've added TRILLIONS in the past few months alone. It is only a matter of time before a complete lack of faith collapses the entire system. It's coming.

LMAO. Non sense but entertaining .

[Hawker]

At this point, people like him (and us) should just focus on saving themselves. It's the reality that most people don't really care and would rather argue about things that affect them at a more emotional level in the present. In the end, they will be the one's who will lose the most. Happens all the time throughout history. Nothing new under the sun.

Ah, funny you mentioned the stimulus checks. Did my taxes months ago and I'm still waiting for my tax refund. Apparently the government has enough resources and willpower to send free money checks to everyone while at the same time continuing to neglect basic taxpayer service. Such is the state of our government right now lol

That's some BS man.

Get this - one of the main cities in the country where I live is cutting their budget and selling off assets because they money isn't there due to covid. Imagine that...actual responsibility.