View Full Version : Angela Davis talking about how racism is used by the elite to divide the workers
https://youtu.be/rPjjptGYDoQ
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 12:34 PM
Nice, posting a speech by a communist...
ADA and ADEA prohibit difference of income based on race
Nice, posting a speech by a communist...
ADA and ADEA prohibit difference of income based on race
Why don’t you actually listen to what she has to say instead of screeching about communism like you’re Joseph McCarthy?
Phong
06-22-2020, 12:44 PM
A Marxist trying to unite people of complete different cultures and values against the evil capitalists :oldlol:
$28 millions difference in earnings for all people of color during the 70s. With a population of 40 million people of color in those years, that's 70 cents per person or $1.40 if we assume 50% are of working age.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 12:47 PM
I did you moron, her point that african americans are paid less for the same job is ILLEGAL... why else would I have said the ADEA ADA law without watching?
Missing her main point still. You are all letting the establishment divide you. Communist black woman bad.
Phong
06-22-2020, 12:51 PM
Communist woman bad. She doesn't provide any details regarding the statistics she presented. Her claim could be as bogus as the one feminists have been repeating about the "78 cents women receive for every dollar a man makes for doing the same job."
If the amount she claims is indeed accurate, it is completely insignificant. For a second I thought she said billions, but i went back she keeps sayings millions.
Also by the ADA do you mean the Americans with Disability Act of 1990? Because this interview is from like 1969. If you stopped flying into a rage over her political beliefs you’d realize some of what she said is within the context of the time in which she said it. Her main point is still relevant though.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 12:52 PM
Missing her main point still. You are all letting the establishment divide you. Communist black woman bad.
Elaborate, how is the establishment dividing me?
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 12:54 PM
Also by the ADA do you mean the Americans with Disability Act of 1990? Because this interview is from like 1969. If you stopped flying into a rage over her political beliefs you’d realize some of what she said is within the context of the time in which she said it. Her main point is still relevant though.
no shit the ada is relatively recent, i'm merely pointing at the fact that the speech itself makes a point that has been addressed by law. But how would I have known what the speech said since i didnt listen/watch it right?
Long Duck Dong
06-22-2020, 12:54 PM
I have no idea if that was true or not that working class people back then paid 70% of taxes but I imagine she's happy now that the top 10% in the US pay over 70% of the income taxes. Right?
She doesn't provide any details regarding the statistics she presented. Her claim could be as bogus as the one feminists have been repeating about the "78 cents women receive for every dollar a man makes for doing the same job."
If the amount she claims is indeed accurate, it is completely insignificant. For a second I thought she said billions, but i went back she keeps sayings millions.
Any difference in pay for people doing the same job based on race is significant :rolleyes: Again she is saying this in like 1969. If you want to pretend things were remotely fair for Black people in 1969, just :roll:
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 12:55 PM
Why do people have to use valid arguments to ruin my points.
Dunno
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 12:57 PM
Any difference in pay for people doing the same job based on race is relevant :rolleyes: Again she is saying this in like 1969. If you want to pretend things were remotely fair for Black people in 1969, just :roll:
If it was only 1.40 back then it' probably means black people are getting more for the same job nowadays.
I have no idea if that was true or not that working class people back then paid 70% of taxes but I imagine she's happy now that the top 10% in the US pay over 70% of the income taxes. Right?
They don’t pay their fair share proportionately.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 12:57 PM
Any difference in pay for people doing the same job based on race is significant :rolleyes: Again she is saying this in like 1969. If you want to pretend things were remotely fair for Black people in 1969, just :roll:
What exactly is your point? I don't think anyone here is arguing that a difference in pay based solely on race is wrong. She brought it up in the 60s, clearly the law caught up and is illegal now.
What is your point? How is the establishment dividing me?
If it was only 1.40 back then it' probably means black people are getting more for the same job nowadays.
:facepalm
What exactly is your point? I don't think anyone here is arguing that a difference in pay based solely on race is wrong. She brought it up in the 60s, clearly the law caught up and is illegal now.
What is your point?
My point is what she said about the ruling class using racism to divide people. Jesus Christ it’s even in the thread title.
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 01:00 PM
:facepalm
Wasn't your point that this is back then and it was definitely worse back then? I just followed your logic.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 01:00 PM
My point is what she said about the ruling class using racism to divide people. Jesus Christ it’s even in the thread title.
your title is written in current tense... how is this present today? We've already gone over LAWS that make it illegal to pay different based on race.
What exactly of what she said applies today?
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 01:01 PM
My point is what she said about the ruling class using racism to divide people. Jesus Christ it’s even in the thread title.
We're all aware of the division democrats are using BLM to enforce buddy.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 01:02 PM
Beta Male Incel boy trying to do damage control over my thread exposing how Communists want to take over this country.
Phong
06-22-2020, 01:02 PM
Any difference in pay for people doing the same job based on race is relevant :rolleyes: Again she is saying this in like 1969. If you want to pretend things were remotely fair for Black people in 1969, just :roll: First, she presented no evidence that her claim is true. You don't either. But let's assume it's true.
Second, she claims that those millions would have paid for this and that when a couple of bucks in everybody's hands isn't going to do any of that.
Third, salaries are based on more than just "exact same work" whatever that means. Level of education, certifications, experience, seniority, overtime, salary negotiation can easily account for those couple bucks a year. I know it's hard to imagine for someone who's only worked for hourly wages.
your title is written in current tense... how is this present today? We've already gone over LAWS that make it illegal to pay different based on race.
Um...politicians on both sides use race to divide poor people of color and poor white people. Because if they ever realized that class is the real issue they’d join together and vote in someone like Bernie Sanders (or someone even farther left) and the American system of predatory capitalism would be screwed.
Beta Male Incel boy trying to do damage control over my thread exposing how Communists want to take over this country.
You weigh 375 pounds. Lose some weight you are obese.
First, she presented no evidence that her claim is true. You don't either. But let's assume it's true.
Second, she claims that those millions would have paid for this and that when a couple of bucks in everybody's hands isn't going to do any of that.
Third, salaries are based on more than just "exact same work" whatever that means. Level of education, certifications, experience, seniority, overtime, salary negotiation can easily account for those couple bucks a year. I know it's hard to imagine for someone who's only worked for hourly wages.
You are attempting to distract from the main point of this thread because you can’t argue with it. Sad!
We're all aware of the division democrats are using BLM to enforce buddy.
Yes only Democrats are divisive :rolleyes:
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 01:06 PM
You weigh 375 pounds. Lose some weight you are obese.
What shirt size are you? A Small? :oldlol: With your nips showing and those pencil-like arms holding that Communist Manifesto.
Just transition over to a woman already will ya.
What shirt size are you? A Small? :oldlol: With your nips showing and those pencil-like arms holding that Communist Manifesto.
Just transition over to a woman already will ya.
Stop fantasizing about my nipples, it’s disturbing and I already told you I’m not interested.
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 01:15 PM
Yes only Democrats are divisive :rolleyes:
Do you think BLM brings people together or divides them?
Do you think BLM brings people together or divides them?
You are falling for the same trap Davis talked about in the video. Bernie tried to tell people about this as well.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 01:17 PM
Notice how Angela brought forth other races including Puerto Ricans, Asians, Native americans etc. to address that this issue is theirs as well. However you want to look at her, that's a quality a leader MUST have. Current BLM is as divisive as it gets - and it starts at its NAME. They've done absolutely NOTHING to bring together hispanics, asians, native americans etc.
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 01:20 PM
You are falling for the same trap Davis talked about in the video. Bernie tried to tell people about this as well.
And your answer to the question a asked?
Notice how Angela brought forth other races including Puerto Ricans, Asians, Native americans etc. to address that this issue is theirs as well. However you want to look at her, that's a quality a leader MUST have. Current BLM is as divisive as it gets - and it starts at its NAME. They've done absolutely NOTHING to bring together hispanics, asians, native americans etc.
The point of BLM is to draw attention to the racism Black people face and inspire change. They are not saying “Only Black Lives Matter”, though. Davis is without a doubt to the left of BLM though and is more concerned with class in many cases I imagine. Her point was that racism is a tool that has been used to grease the wheels of predatory capitalism. Even the American system of slavery was highly capitalistic.
And your answer to the question a asked?
I don’t find the general message behind Black Lives Matter to be divisive at all. I think things like cancel culture, the obsession with being politically correct and demonizing anyone you don’t like as racist are divisive though. Which many people who support BLM are guilty of. I don’t demonize an organization because it has idiots following it though.
Hittin_Shots
06-22-2020, 01:33 PM
I don’t find the general message behind Black Lives Matter to be divisive at all. I think things like cancel culture, the obsession with being politically correct and demonizing anyone you don’t like as racist are divisive though. Which many people who support BLM are guilty of. I don’t demonize an organization because it has idiots following it though.
If BLM is a movement doesnt that mean the people are the organization? When saying all lives matter in an agreeing manner to include everyone becomes reason to ruin a person's life, then the people who make up this movement are dividing people.
Or are u just talking about the organization that won't tell anyone what they're doing with the millions in donations?
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 01:34 PM
Okay fine, lets just pretend they really mean all lives matter... are we going to ignore the backlash television personalities received when they stated they believe 'all lives matter'?
Or lets explore the BLM movement by seeing what their site has:
Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.
The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.
Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.
We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.
We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.
We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.
We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.
We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.
We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.
We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.
We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.
We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.
We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 01:35 PM
I had to delete some of what I quoted because Jeff refuses to allow responses larger than 5k characters but here's the source: https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
I see absolutely NO reference to ANY other race
Nowhere in there did it say people who aren’t black don’t matter. I didn’t fire those people who said All Lives Matter. What the hell do you want me to do about it? :lol. I don’t agree with it if that’s what you’re wondering. It’s a dumb comment that misses the point of BLM, but people should be allowed to make dumb statements. You are grasping at straws and trying to distract from what Davis said.
Rocket
06-22-2020, 01:39 PM
Communist woman bad.
I think you summed this one up perfectly!!! :applause: I do not think that was your intention but you do happen to be 100% correct.
I think you summed this one up perfectly!!! :applause: I do not think that was your intention but you do happen to be 100% correct.
Why is she bad? Because she doesn’t agree with you? :lol
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 01:44 PM
Nowhere in there did it say people who aren’t black don’t matter. I didn’t fire those people who said All Lives Matter. What the hell do you want me to do about it? :lol. I don’t agree with it if that’s what you’re wondering. It’s a dumb comment that misses the point of BLM, but people should be allowed to make dumb statements. You are grasping at straws and trying to distract from what Davis said.
You are ignoring my point. Angela made the fight about ALL races, BLM is making it about them only.
When one goes to create a "what we believe" page and fails to even mention ANY other race besides black... it's a red flag sorry. This movement is not about others besides blacks.
You are ignoring my point. Angela made the fight about ALL races, BLM is making it about them only.
When one goes to create a "what we believe" page and fails to even mention ANY other race besides black... it's a red flag sorry. This movement is not about others besides blacks.
Who is denying the BLM movement is about Black people though? Are Black people not allowed to have a movement? There’s legitimate criticisms to be had about Shaun King, to be sure, but I’m not seeing what’s wrong with the actual movement? It’s certainly more intelligent to say what Davis did if you’re trying to unite the working classes, but I don’t think BLM main goal is for the working class to overthrow the ruling class, and that was Davis’ ultimate goal. BLM is not a Communist organization. Davis was literally a Communist until 1991.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 02:26 PM
The point of BLM is to draw attention to the racism Black people face and inspire change. They are not saying “Only Black Lives Matter”, though. Davis is without a doubt to the left of BLM though and is more concerned with class in many cases I imagine. Her point was that racism is a tool that has been used to grease the wheels of predatory capitalism. Even the American system of slavery was highly capitalistic.
Then why are the founders of BLM admitted Marxists??
You're fighting hard for this Communist thing.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 02:50 PM
Communist woman bad.
Uh yeah. And stupid.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 02:51 PM
They don’t pay their fair share proportionately.
Define "fair share." Give a number and be specific. The US tax system is progressive and the rich pay a bigger share than most other countries.
Rocket
06-22-2020, 03:00 PM
Why is she bad? Because she doesn’t agree with you? :lol
If you do not understand why Marxism is bad then I cannot help you. You are a lost cause. I suggest you try moving to Venezuela for a while. After a day there you might have a better idea what Marxism does to a country.
Rocket
06-22-2020, 03:03 PM
Define "fair share." Give a number and be specific. The US tax system is progressive and the rich pay a bigger share than most other countries.
The people who are pro-Marxist like the loser you are responding to are usually the primary reason why Marxism ALWAYS fails.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 03:25 PM
The people who are pro-Marxist like the loser you are responding to are usually the primary reason why Marxism ALWAYS fails.
RRR3 lives with his parents, of course he's for a government that treats everyone equally and provides the same opportunity.
Rocket
06-22-2020, 04:44 PM
RRR3 lives with his parents, of course he's for a government that treats everyone equally and provides the same opportunity.
That would explain a whole lot.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 05:07 PM
Is that why he loves Communism so much? The fear of living on your own and actually being forced to work to pay bills, eat food, afford nice things?
Meticode
06-22-2020, 05:10 PM
Nice, posting a speech by a communist...
ADA and ADEA prohibit difference of income based on race
Doesn't mean it's any less true.
As usual, the ISH conservative fam resorts to insults when they can’t refute the main point of a thread. “RRR3 lives with his parents” “RRR3 is a communist moron” “Davis is bad and dumb” (the same Angela Davis who went to Brandeis, is a famous political activist and scholar, and has accomplished more in her life/impacted the world far more than anyone on ISH is somehow “dumb”). I expect my favorite one, “RRR3 is a tranny” to follow soon enough.
It’s hilarious how the conservatives on here screech about the liberals demonizing anyone with different political views, but when faced with the words of Angela Davis, they immediately attack her for her political beliefs as if that invalidates what she is saying. Davis is apparently a bad person for being a Marxist (she left the Communist Party in 1991 btw), but you all fly into a rage when anyone insinuates being a republican makes you a bad person. The lack of self awareness is mind boggling. None of you are able to actually disagree with what Davis is saying, because you all have made the same arguments yourselves (that the elites use race to divide us). Instead you attack Davis for being a Communist, because you are much too tribal to admit what she’s saying is true, even if you don’t agree with her politics. #tissuesoft
Also, I’m not a Communist. I don’t believe in the complete abolition of privately owned property. Nice try though.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 05:39 PM
As usual, the ISH conservative fam resorts to insults when they can’t refute the main point of a thread. “RRR3 lives with his parents” “RRR3 is a communist moron” “Davis is bad and dumb” (the same Angela Davis who went to Brandeis, is a famous political activist and scholar, and has accomplished more in her life/impacted the world far more than anyone on ISH is somehow “dumb”). I expect my favorite one, “RRR3 is a tranny” to follow soon enough.
It’s hilarious how the conservatives on here screech about the liberals demonizing anyone with different political views, but when faced with the words of Angela Davis, they immediately attack her for her political beliefs as if that invalidates what she is saying. Davis is apparently a bad person for being a Marxist (she left the Communist Party in 1991 btw), but you all fly into a rage when anyone insinuates being a republican makes you a bad person. The lack of self awareness is mind boggling. None of you are able to actually disagree with what Davis is saying, because you all have made the same arguments yourselves (that the elites use race to divide us). Instead you attack Davis for being a Communist, because you are much too tribal to admit what she’s saying is true, even if you don’t agree with her politics. #tissuesoft
This is the first time I've heard of her but maybe I should respect her. After all, she was awarded the Lenin Peace Prize by the Soviet Union.
Communist countries caused mass destruction and deaths and she supported it while it was going on. That's not very intelligent. Going to university, being a political activist and a "scholar" are not to be highly regarded.
If anyone was supporting the nazis, you'd go after them as well. This is no different. Just look at the death tolls caused by communism - it's unfortunate that communism isn't focused on as much as Hitler.
That statement is not wrong however she's calling for more state intervention and using the movement for her agenda. She's no different than the elites.
This is the first time I've heard of her but maybe I should respect her. After all, she was awarded the Lenin Peace Prize by the Soviet Union.
Communist countries caused mass destruction and deaths and she supported it while it was going on. That's not very intelligent. Going to university, being a political activist and a "scholar" are not to be highly regarded.
If anyone was supporting the nazis, you'd go after them as well. This is no different. Just look at the death tolls caused by communism - it's unfortunate that communism isn't focused on as much as Hitler.
That statement is not wrong however she's calling for more state intervention and using the movement for her agenda. She's no different than the elites.
America has caused mass destruction and deaths and you support it. Not very intelligent.
Did you really just continue to screech about her political party, admit she was right, and then screech some more about her political beliefs when I JUST got done making the point that political beliefs don’t invalidate true statements? Next time Trump says something that’s true, I’ll remember to screech about how he’s automatically dumb and shouldn’t be listened to because he’s a Republican.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 05:50 PM
America has caused mass destruction and deaths and you support it. Not very intelligent.
Did you really just continue to screech about her political party, admit she was right, and then screech some more about her political beliefs when I JUST got done making the point that political beliefs don’t invalidate true statements? Next time Trump says something that’s true, I’ll remember to screech about how he’s automatically dumb and shouldn’t be listened to because he’s a Republican.
So the US is no better than Hitler's regime? Are you really going down that road of relativism?
tpols
06-22-2020, 05:50 PM
"Communism."
https://therealnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/sanderson0523wages-1024x580.jpg
you guys still dont get it...
Also, I’m not a Communist. I don’t believe in the complete abolition of privately owned property. Nice try though.
thats the strawman they construct instead of meeting in the middle ground. Just leap to end of the scale and start screeching.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 05:51 PM
"Communism."
https://therealnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/sanderson0523wages-1024x580.jpg
you guys still dont get it...
Mexico is better off than the US. Got it. Give me what the exact ratio should be and why.
So the US is no better than Hitler's regime? Are you really going down that road of relativism?
All Communist regimes=Nazi Germany? Are you really going down that road of relativism?
tpols
06-22-2020, 05:53 PM
Mexico just doesnt have as many rich execs.
In all other first world countries their ratios are much healthier, including the country you team hopped away from the USA to.
"Communism."
https://therealnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/sanderson0523wages-1024x580.jpg
you guys still dont get it...
thats the strawman they construct instead of meeting in the middle ground. Just leap to end of the scale and start screeching.
Didn't expect to be on the same side as you here, but I'll take it :lol And I know, it's frustrating. Davis is right and they know it, but she's a spooky scary Communist (or at least she was when she said what she said in the OP) so apparently that means if she says the sky is blue, it is actually green.
tpols
06-22-2020, 06:04 PM
i love how instead of comparing us to other first world countries they jump to venezuela...
:facepalm
it's a brazen display of ignorance.
i love how instead of comparing us to other first world countries they jump to venezuela...
:facepalm
it's a brazen display of ignorance.
Let's not forget the USA is actively undermining Venezuela's Democratically elected leader.
NBAGOAT
06-22-2020, 06:07 PM
Define "fair share." Give a number and be specific. The US tax system is progressive and the rich pay a bigger share than most other countries.
see this is easily my biggest problem with conservatives. often passing off a general statement as fact that can be clearly refuted with a google search. citations arent common at all.
https://taxfoundation.org/taxing-high-income-2019/. This article goes through it pretty clearly. The US has a marginal tax rate of 47% which is below the average of 56%(taken from 41 countries). The Us ranks 32nd out of 41 fyi. It even has a slight conservative bias so dont give me that liberal media argument(just lol at citing the laffer curve like it has tons of practical value).
Hawker
06-22-2020, 06:09 PM
All Communist regimes=Nazi Germany? Are you really going down that road of relativism?
Yes - I am making that comparison.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 06:11 PM
see this is easily my biggest problem with conservatives. often passing off a general statement as fact that can be clearly refuted with a google search. citations arent common at all.
https://taxfoundation.org/taxing-high-income-2019/. This article goes through it pretty clearly. The US has a marginal tax rate of 47% which is below the average of 56%(taken from 41 countries). The Us ranks 32nd out of 41 fyi. It even has a slight conservative bias so dont give me that liberal media argument(just lol at citing the laffer curve like it has tons of practical value).
https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2018-update/#:~:text=The%20top%201%20percent%20paid,50%20perce nt%20(3.7%20percent).
From the same website:
The data demonstrates that the U.S. individual income tax continues to be very progressive, borne primarily by the highest income earners.[2]
In 2016, 140.9 million taxpayers reported earning $10.2 trillion in adjusted gross income and paid $1.4 trillion in individual income taxes.
The share of reported income earned by the top 1 percent of taxpayers fell slightly to 19.7 percent in 2016. Their share of federal individual income taxes fell slightly, to 37.3 percent.
In 2016, the top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97 percent of all individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 3 percent.
The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent).
The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid a 26.9 percent individual income tax rate, which is more than seven times higher than taxpayers in the bottom 50 percent (3.7 percent)
Test me.
Yes - I am making that comparison.
Please tell me how Thomas Sankara=Hitler.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 06:13 PM
Mexico just doesnt have as many rich execs.
In all other first world countries their ratios are much healthier, including the country you team hopped away from the USA to.
Define healthier. Give me the exact ratio it should be. Stop speaking in vague generalities.
"living wage"
"fair share"
"healthier"
Nothing to back it up.
tpols
06-22-2020, 06:27 PM
lmao somewhere in line with their peers. We gave you the numbers.
We have an exec wall st culture here that's caused a class balance disparity so bad were 25 trillion in debt, and literally on the verge of collapse.
Hawker be like
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/08/05/us/05onfire1_xp/05onfire1_xp-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600-v2.jpg
NBAGOAT
06-22-2020, 06:37 PM
https://taxfoundation.org/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2018-update/#:~:text=The%20top%201%20percent%20paid,50%20perce nt%20(3.7%20percent).
From the same website:
Test me.
none of those are an actual ranking for one so your point is still up in the air. the other problem is ofc the actual rate matters too. forgive me for using a hypothetical but seeing as how i seen them on all the times on these threads, I can get away with one. a "progressive" tax rate for example wont do shit about income inequality if say it's a 1% income tax rate on the bottom 80% and 10% on the top 1% which would be more "progressive" technically than what the US has now since the rich pay a higher ratio of taxes. The raw revenue matters significantly(even more than the ratio and you're glossing over that). Our tax rate is below the majority of first world countries
NBAGOAT
06-22-2020, 07:04 PM
Please tell me how Thomas Sankara=Hitler.
forgive the people in this thread. all they read is ayn rand and murray rothbard. You can just see the ignorance when they throw out communism, socialism, and marxism like they mean the exact same thing. And sankara is a decent example but I dont think we've ever seen true communism or even socialism.
coin24
06-22-2020, 07:10 PM
Pretty sure the class divide is a bigger issue in America, seeing as the 1% have everything and the rest of you are scrambling in debt. But yeah, racism is the problem :oldlol:
Transjew pretending to be black crying about unfair racism, what a time!
Pretty sure the class divide is a bigger issue in America, seeing as the 1% have everything and the rest of you are scrambling in debt. But yeah, racism is the problem :oldlol:
Transjew pretending to be black crying about unfair racism, what a time!
That was literally the point of this thread. You are retarded. I literally posted pics of my black mother and you all scurried away and pretend you never saw it, but sure.
As usual, the ISH conservative fam resorts to insults when they can’t refute the main point of a thread. “RRR3 lives with his parents” “RRR3 is a communist moron” “Davis is bad and dumb” (the same Angela Davis who went to Brandeis, is a famous political activist and scholar, and has accomplished more in her life/impacted the world far more than anyone on ISH is somehow “dumb”). I expect my favorite one, “RRR3 is a tranny” to follow soon enough.
It’s hilarious how the conservatives on here screech about the liberals demonizing anyone with different political views, but when faced with the words of Angela Davis, they immediately attack her for her political beliefs as if that invalidates what she is saying. Davis is apparently a bad person for being a Marxist (she left the Communist Party in 1991 btw), but you all fly into a rage when anyone insinuates being a republican makes you a bad person. The lack of self awareness is mind boggling. None of you are able to actually disagree with what Davis is saying, because you all have made the same arguments yourselves (that the elites use race to divide us). Instead you attack Davis for being a Communist, because you are much too tribal to admit what she’s saying is true, even if you don’t agree with her politics. #tissuesoft
Called it :roll:
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 07:59 PM
Jewfrican, do you have a job? Honest question.
https://i.postimg.cc/KjRrYJbJ/8599-AAF3-1-BC6-4437-AE6-F-27-A23611-FC07.jpg
FKAri
06-22-2020, 08:19 PM
So what you're trying to say is that the workers of the World should unite?
Interesting. Very interesting.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 08:29 PM
I don’t think Jewfrican has a job! :lol
No wonder he’s a Commie scum.
Hawker
06-22-2020, 08:32 PM
none of those are an actual ranking for one so your point is still up in the air. the other problem is ofc the actual rate matters too. forgive me for using a hypothetical but seeing as how i seen them on all the times on these threads, I can get away with one. a "progressive" tax rate for example wont do shit about income inequality if say it's a 1% income tax rate on the bottom 80% and 10% on the top 1% which would be more "progressive" technically than what the US has now since the rich pay a higher ratio of taxes. The raw revenue matters significantly(even more than the ratio and you're glossing over that). Our tax rate is below the majority of first world countries
Choose one.
The rich pay a massive share in the US and is a progressive system. That is a fact.
https://opportunitywa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/WaPo-tax-300x214.png
This is from WaPo who got it from OECD.
You can easily google this dude.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 08:44 PM
Jewfrican? You there? Usted tiene trabajo?
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Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 09:09 PM
So you’ve just been exposed. Lecturing us on the benefits of Socialism and defending the Communist agenda while you sit unemployed in your parents basement, leeching off of them as we speak.
Go out and get a job. :oldlol:
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Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 09:18 PM
How embarrassing to still live at home, and burn up through Mommy and Daddy’s savings. They must be proud of the Millennial douchebag they’ve created.
Is the 400 pound, friendless 40 year old really trying to talk shit? Really? I hate to break it to you but there’s a shockingly high number of people out of work right now. Because of covid.
I’m gonna look into learning how to code. Meanwhile Chewy collects disability for being 400 pounds and thinks he can talk shit about people not working because of a global pandemic? Bitch please. All that fat is going to your brain.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 09:35 PM
Is the 400 pound, friendless 40 year old really trying to talk shit? Really? I hate to break it to you but there’s a shockingly high number of people out of work right now. Because of covid.
:oldlol:
Don’t blame your lack of employment on COVID, Tranny boy. Odds are you’ve been getting an allowance from your parents for quite some time now.
Get a job you bum and maybe if you earned money like a normal human being, you wouldn’t spend your entire life on ISH and maybe you’ll have a better appreciation for Capitalism. I’m sure there’s a Starbucks near you that’s hiring :lol
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 09:36 PM
I’m gonna look into learning how to code. Meanwhile Chewy collects disability for being 400 pounds and thinks he can talk shit about people not working because of a global pandemic? Bitch please. All that fat is going to your brain.
Meltdown. No job. No girl. Still lives at home. :roll:
Meltdown. No job. No girl. Still lives at home. :roll:
400 pounds. No friends. No human interaction. Ice cream for dinner. At least I’ve had a job before bitch. You just scam the system instead of working :lol
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 09:51 PM
400 pounds:oldlol:. No friends. No human interaction. Ice cream for dinner. At least I’ve had a job before bitch. You just scam the system instead of working :lol
I have my own house. I have a woman. I have my own business. What you got, bro?? What you got? Your own TV in your room?? :oldlol:
I have my own house. I have a woman. I have my own business. What you got, bro?? What you got? Your own TV in your room?? :oldlol:
You are 400 pounds living in an assisted living home. Your nurse is not your “woman”, sorry. Yikes.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 10:15 PM
You are 400 pounds living in an assisted living home. Your nurse is not your “woman”, sorry. Yikes.
Unemployed by choice. Still lives at home. Shares a bathroom with his parents. Only friends are his friends on ISH :lol
The obese old man who stalks twentysomething males online and lives in a nursing home making up stuff about me to feel better about himself :lol
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 10:30 PM
Make what up? You’ve admitted that you are unemployed, live with your parents, and haven’t been with a woman.
I don’t have to make anything up with a chump like you. :lol
The obese old man is making stuff up again.
rawimpact
06-22-2020, 10:34 PM
You guys are both taking a L here. No matter who’s life is better or worse you’re spending it on inside hoops right now doing the same thing. just think about that.
thanks for the laugh before bed, see y’all in the morning.
and when I said rrr lives at home with his parents it wasn’t meant to tease him but to point out that he’s yet to deal with the hardship of life without a financial support system - hence his political view
That’s a good point. I’ll let Mr. 400 pounds think he’s won this one. He probably needs at least one night spent not sobbing into a giant tub of triple chocolate fudge ice cream.
Patrick Chewing
06-22-2020, 10:38 PM
Is there a term for people who still live at home and leech off their parents? Only thing that comes to mind is...
https://media2.giphy.com/media/cr9vIO7NsP5cY/giphy.gif
coin24
06-23-2020, 02:35 AM
Yikes transjew no job, no girl and still lives at home? WHAT A LOSER!!:roll:
Then it comes on here crying about all the injustices in the world!
FultzNationRISE
06-23-2020, 02:53 AM
90% of the time, OP is less intelligent and informed than the people he attempts to lecture politically.
There's an enormous disconnect between what he wishes he was, and what he's actually capable of being.
It's sad for him, and unfortunate for any message board community he insists on annoying.
Charlie Sheen
06-23-2020, 10:49 AM
I’m gonna look into learning how to code.
More than anything else, good for you. It aint easy getting established in this world. Lose the "look into". Speak like you're going to follow through, not just dip your toe in the water. You might think it's no big deal, but it is. Believe in yourself. Don't half step. :cheers:
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