orange man bad voters leading the way for 2020?

[diamenz]

Biden v Trump voters: "Are you mostly voting FOR your candidate or AGAINST the other candidate?

BIDEN VOTERS
I'm voting FOR Biden 35%
I'm voting AGAINST Trump 62%

TRUMP VOTERS
I'm voting FOR Trump 81%
I'm voting AGAINST Biden 18%

YouGov/Economist June 14-16

https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1274702828544708609

[rawimpact]

There was already a poll that showed the LEFT doesnt care who the president is as long as it's not Trump. That poll also went on to say they don't care if candidate policy aligns with theirs as long as their name isn't Trump.

That is by definition TDS, when they've put aside their own values when voting.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Which of my values am I abandoning to vote against Trump out of spite? I disagree with the caging of immigrant children, believe the handling of the 2 trillion bailout for small businesses to be shady as hell, generally dislike his handling of the LGBTQ and have no appreciation for the racism. Also am pretty sure he's bad for the environment.

[Real Men Wear Green]

And as an added bonus he appears to be breaking down under the strain of the office and his age, both physically as well as mentally.

But to be fair I do suspect Biden is senile.

[scuzzy]

Crazy


And too think if just had stayed off twitter things could have been different


Tough times for his supporters :(

[Shogon]

And as an added bonus he appears to be breaking down under the strain of the office and his age, both physically as well as mentally.

But to be fair I do suspect Biden is senile.

Neither is fit for office. What the **** are we supposed to do because nothing will change short of storming the capitol.

It could be argued that a vote for either guy is a vote for their VP PARTICULARLY in Biden’s case.

[Facepalm]

There was already a poll that showed the LEFT doesnt care who the president is as long as it's not Trump. That poll also went on to say they don't care if candidate policy aligns with theirs as long as their name isn't Trump.

That is by definition TDS, when they've put aside their own values when voting.


Kinda like his Evangelist base right?

[Norcaliblunt]

Once Trump is out of office be it this year or four years from now people will start to think of him more fondly. It’ll be like remember when crazy Trump was president saying crazy shit damn that was funny.

[Patrick Chewing]

Which of my values am I abandoning to vote against Trump out of spite? I disagree with the caging of immigrant children, believe the handling of the 2 trillion bailout for small businesses to be shady as hell, generally dislike his handling of the LGBTQ and have no appreciation for the racism. Also am pretty sure he's bad for the environment.

What caging of children?
What handling of LGBTQ?
What racism?

[RRR3]

Which of my values am I abandoning to vote against Trump out of spite? I disagree with the caging of immigrant children, believe the handling of the 2 trillion bailout for small businesses to be shady as hell, generally dislike his handling of the LGBTQ and have no appreciation for the racism. Also am pretty sure he's bad for the environment.
Biden doesn’t exactly have a good record on treating immigrants well or LGBTQ or racism OR the environment. And he’s corporate as shit.

[rawimpact]

Biden doesn’t exactly have a good record on treating immigrants well or LGBTQ or racism OR the environment. And he’s corporate as shit.

You see how he automatically started jumping on Trump rather than explaining why he's voting for whoever. They don't care who they vote for as long as it's not trump. We can agree that Biden is as cookie cutter dem as it gets which is fine if that's they're looking for.

Me? Well I want to vote for whoever serves in my best interest. Is it selfish? Sure, but at least i'm transparent about it.

[RRR3]

You see how he automatically started jumping on Trump rather than explaining why he's voting for whoever. They don't care who they vote for as long as it's not trump. We can agree that Biden is as cookie cutter dem as it gets.
Yep. Every time someone gets mad when they learn I’m voting Green and tries to convince me to vote Biden they just screech about how bad Trump is and how I have to stop him. It’s never about what makes Biden a good choice.

[tpols]

And as an added bonus he appears to be breaking down under the strain of the office and his age, both physically as well as mentally.

But to be fair I do suspect Biden is senile.

He's handled an all out assault pretty well.

the Don is like Ali when he went the distance with Foreman.

you've been roped, dope.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Biden doesn’t exactly have a good record on treating immigrants well or LGBTQ or racism OR the environment. And he’s corporate as shit.

Did they try and remove all trans from the military in the Obama administration? Were we seeing random bans on all immigration from Muslim countries? Biden is not my ideal politician but its simply not true to say there aren't big differences between him and Trump

[Real Men Wear Green]

He's handled an all out assault pretty well.

the Don is like Ali when he went the distance with Foreman.

you've been roped, dope.

I don't think either of us knows what you're talking about. I suspect you're trying to be funny again. We talked about this.

[rawimpact]

He's handled an all out assault pretty well.

the Don is like Ali when he went the distance with Foreman.

you've been roped, dope.

wait wait wait....

So RMWG admits that Biden is senile... but he wants to vote him in?
and Trump, who has been medically cleared is the one breaking down?

I get that presidents tend to age significantly quicker from the pressures, I mean look at Obama, went from looking like someone in his 40s to George W. Bush. Trump, as bad as he looked out of shape, loss of hair or what have you when he ran for president four years ago at age 70 is exactly how he looks today and that's after one of the most unprecedented years in recent American history.

[RRR3]

Did they try and remove all trans from the military in the Obama administration? Were we seeing random bands on all immigration from Muslim countries? Biden is not my ideal politician but it
It's simply not true to say there aren't big differences between him and Trump
https://i.redd.it/7cwhx4xbzmw21.jpg

[Shogon]

https://i.redd.it/7cwhx4xbzmw21.jpg

This is the kind of shit that makes me want to support Trump. It's just complete and utter bullshit and idiots like you re-post this hot trash like it's clever/fact based, lol. Unreal.

[rawimpact]

This is the kind of shit that makes me want to support Trump. It's just complete and utter bullshit and idiots like you re-post this hot trash like it's clever/fact based, lol. Unreal.

I mean if you are against Trump's policies that's fine... I get that. But to vote for someone who pretends to be different but his track record shows to be more the same? C'mon man...

And that's what a lot of the LEFT are doing, or atleast on the polls. Voting for whoever can take down Trump even though they're no different.

[RRR3]

This is the kind of shit that makes me want to support Trump. It's just complete and utter bullshit and idiots like you re-post this hot trash like it's clever/fact based, lol. Unreal.
Me posting about why both candidates are bad makes you want to support Trump? What? I’m gonna assume you meant to reply to RMWG.

[Real Men Wear Green]

wait wait wait....

So RMWG admits that Biden is senile... but he wants to vote him in?
and Trump, who has been medically cleared is the one breaking down?

I get that presidents tend to age significantly quicker from the pressures, I mean look at Obama, went from looking like someone in his 40s to George W. Bush. Trump, as bad as he looked out of shape, loss of hair or what have you when he ran for president four years ago at age 70 is exactly how he looks today and that's after one of the most unprecedented years in recent American history.
We all saw trump struggling to drink a water and stumbledown a ramp and we hear the crap that comes ot of his mouth every day. From talking about consuming disinfectant to asking them to reduce testing the only thing his strategy for dealing with covid has done is prove that he's losing his mental faculties.


You really don't want to compare Trump's current state to Obama at all.

[tpols]

I don't think either of us knows what you're talking about. I suspect you're trying to be funny again. We talked about this.

:roll:

[bladefd]

He's handled an all out assault pretty well.

the Don is like Ali when he went the distance with Foreman.

you've been roped, dope.

Except on Saturday when a bunch of teens on TikTok roped Ali and played 5d chess on his 4d chess :pimp:

[bladefd]

Me posting about why both candidates are bad makes you want to support Trump? What? I’m gonna assume you meant to reply to RMWG.

Shogon has TDS

[Real Men Wear Green]

https://i.redd.it/7cwhx4xbzmw21.jpg

So you think that there is no difference between Obama's vp and Trump when it comes to healthcare? That Biden would do a Muslim ban? Or just randomly ban all trans from the military? You like Sanders right? I bet Sanders sees a difference and he's the guy that the DNC cheated against too nominate Clinton.

[Kblaze8855]

If Ron Artest were president and you were voting to get someone in who were more likely to be rational....yes...you could call it voting against him. It would still be the right thing to do. Trump is just a celebrity jackass who lied about his beliefs to fool a simple minded base and excited a segment of people who just hate all government.

Id put most of ISH in the White House first including the conservatives. Most people are more likely to admit what they don’t know and listen to people who do.

Whatever I think of the ish trump fans I can’t imagine most of them believing they know the military better than the generals.

Whoever is reading this now....you probably get my vote before trump does.

[Shogon]

There are only two real at the end of the day core reasons to vote for a president unless there's some true immediate panic inducing behavior, which despite people's ideas of what that is, Trump has not exhibited. I digress... so we have... fiscal policy, and foreign policy.

As for fiscal policy, let's face it... Trump is a joke... and so is every other president who has even a **** hair's chance of getting elected. So that ultimately doesn't matter. None of them are going to create a surplus because that would not get them elected. The right likes out of control military spending and the left likes out of control social program spending despite us not having the money for either one.

So realistically, what's left? Foreign policy. Specifically within that, war... where are the new large scale wars that Trump has taken us into? Anyone? Anyone believe that Hilary Clinton wouldn't have taken us into a war with someone by now? Please eh? That's the only reason Trump got my vote the first time... I was absolutely convinced that evil bitch would have taken us somewhere new.

Anyone think Joe Biden will serve out a 4 to 8 year term without the U.S. engaging in a new major military operation?

But I guess, since they're foreigners that are in their own country and not ours... their senseless deaths don't really matter and so this is a factor that really shouldn't be considered, amIright? **** those brown skinned people!!! YEAH!! *no, this isn't the same as preventing illegals from crossing the border, don't go there.

Bring on President Biden! Orange Man SO BAD!

I'm going to be fighting you brain dead morons until the day I die.

[Norcaliblunt]

The only way things will change is if everyone quits their corporate jobs, quits paying their taxes, takes their money out of the stock market, stops purchasing items from big business, stops watching corporate entertainment, stops using big oil as an energy source and spends all their time, money, energy towards smaller scale, less divisive, less detrimental, more productive entities. Doesn’t matter who the president is. It’s always wash, rinse, repeat.

[diamenz]

There are only two real at the end of the day core reasons to vote for a president unless there's some true immediate panic inducing behavior, which despite people's ideas of what that is, Trump has not exhibited. I digress... so we have... fiscal policy, and foreign policy.

As for fiscal policy, let's face it... Trump is a joke... and so is every other president who has even a **** hair's chance of getting elected. So that ultimately doesn't matter. None of them are going to create a surplus because that would not get them elected. The right likes out of control military spending and the left likes out of control social program spending despite us not having the money for either one.

So realistically, what's left? Foreign policy. Specifically within that, war... where are the new large scale wars that Trump has taken us into? Anyone? Anyone believe that Hilary Clinton wouldn't have taken us into a war with someone by now? Please eh? That's the only reason Trump got my vote the first time... I was absolutely convinced that evil bitch would have taken us somewhere new.

Anyone think Joe Biden will serve out a 4 to 8 year term without the U.S. engaging in a new major military operation?

But I guess, since they're foreigners that are in their own country and not ours... their senseless deaths don't really matter and so this is a factor that really shouldn't be considered, amIright? **** those brown skinned people!!! YEAH!! *no, this isn't the same as preventing illegals from crossing the border, don't go there.

Bring on President Biden! Orange Man SO BAD!

I'm going to be fighting you brain dead morons until the day I die.

or u can choose not to and live a more carefree life. the choice is yours, really.

[bladefd]

There are only two real at the end of the day core reasons to vote for a president unless there's some true immediate panic inducing behavior, which despite people's ideas of what that is, Trump has not exhibited. I digress... so we have... fiscal policy, and foreign policy.

As for fiscal policy, let's face it... Trump is a joke... and so is every other president who has even a **** hair's chance of getting elected. So that ultimately doesn't matter. None of them are going to create a surplus because that would not get them elected. The right likes out of control military spending and the left likes out of control social program spending despite us not having the money for either one.

So realistically, what's left? Foreign policy. Specifically within that, war... where are the new large scale wars that Trump has taken us into? Anyone? Anyone believe that Hilary Clinton wouldn't have taken us into a war with someone by now? Please eh? That's the only reason Trump got my vote the first time... I was absolutely convinced that evil bitch would have taken us somewhere new.

Anyone think Joe Biden will serve out a 4 to 8 year term without the U.S. engaging in a new major military operation?

But I guess, since they're foreigners that are in their own country and not ours... their senseless deaths don't really matter and so this is a factor that really shouldn't be considered, amIright? **** those brown skinned people!!! YEAH!! *no, this isn't the same as preventing illegals from crossing the border, don't go there.

Bring on President Biden! Orange Man SO BAD!

I'm going to be fighting you brain dead morons until the day I die.

How many wars did Obama take us into?? I expect the same with Biden with similar advisers and cabinet

[FultzNationRISE]

If Ron Artest were president and you were voting to get someone in who were more likely to be rational....yes...you could call it voting against him. It would still be the right thing to do. Trump is just a celebrity jackass who lied about his beliefs to fool a simple minded base and excited a segment of people who just hate all government.

Id put most of ISH in the White House first including the conservatives. Most people are more likely to admit what they don’t know and listen to people who do.

Whatever I think of the ish trump fans I can’t imagine most of them believing they know the military better than the generals.

Whoever is reading this now....you probably get my vote before trump does.


Can you imagine civilians being less motivated by personal ambition and glory with regard to military decisions than career generals?

I can.

None of us knows the law as well as Michael Avenatti, either. Yet he’s been exposed and indicted for pursuing baseless lawsuits motivated by greed and fame, as well as felony blackmailing, while also swindling his OWN clients.

Is he nonetheless a “good attorney” because he knows the law well?

Do you trust him?

Should we assume “the generals” always have America’s interests prioritized above their own with regard to military policy?

I dont.

[Shogon]

How many wars did Obama take us into?? I expect the same with Biden with similar advisers and cabinet

The Syrian war... absolute child.

[rawimpact]

The Syrian war... absolute child.

People only remember what they want to remember. Like when Obama ran and promised to get us out of the middle east in 08. How long did that take?

[nightlight]

Can you imagine civilians being less motivated by personal ambition and glory with regard to military decisions than career generals?

I can.

None of us knows the law as well as Michael Avenatti, either. Yet he’s been exposed and indicted for pursuing baseless lawsuits motivated by greed and fame, as well as felony blackmailing, while also swindling his OWN clients.

Is he nonetheless a “good attorney” because he knows the law well?

Do you trust him?

Should we assume “the generals” always have America’s interests prioritized above their own with regard to military policy?

I dont.

How's this principle working out for you? You didn't need mentoring, schooling or training to start your own business and it has been a smashing success. Same thing for your acting career. Just because you don't have the dedication to put in hard work to cultivate your own field of expertise doesn't mean you can just wipe away everyone else's because you've found a few exceptions through violations of ethics.

[bladefd]

The Syrian war... absolute child.

Syrian war? We launched some airstrikes against Syria but that was hardly a war. A war would be what we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan with boots on the ground. We had some military advisors we put down to arm the Syrian rebels and some did fought embedded into the rebel units. Several special forces teams were sent from Iraq to launch some operations vs ISIL. Hardly a war.

[FultzNationRISE]

How's this principle working out for you? You didn't need mentoring, schooling or training to start your own business and it has been a smashing success. Same thing for your acting career. Just because you don't have the dedication to put in hard work to cultivate your own field of expertise doesn't mean you can just wipe away everyone else's because you've found a few exceptions through violations of ethics.


Speaking of dedication, I admire yours in sticking steadfastly to your pre-troll and post-troll meal plan:

https://bang-energy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/zero-impact-buckwild-blueberry.jpg



:yaohappy:

[Rooster]

People only remember what they want to remember. Like when Obama ran and promised to get us out of the middle east in 08. How long did that take?


Theres no president that will take us out in the Middle East. Presidents comes and go, hundreds of Senator and Congressman too but we will not (voluntarily) give that away. That’s the highest priority of our foreign policy.

[bladefd]

One criticism you can hold against Obama and I still do is the huge increase in drone strikes. That arguably led to more terrorism because more people died & terrorists used that as fodder to recruit. That point is completely valid. It made ISIL stronger and we had to send special forces from Iraq to fight ISIL. We have a tendency to escalate things and I don't like that.

[FultzNationRISE]

One criticism you can hold against Obama and I still do is the huge increase in drone strikes. That arguably led to more terrorism because more people died & terrorists used that as fodder to recruit. That's completely valid. It made ISIL stronger and we had to send special forces from Iraq to fight ISIL. We have a tendency to escalate things and I don't like that.

Do you think this is an honest miscalculation, or part of an OBVIOUS agenda to breed foreign terror as a way to justify all sorts of military industrial machinations.

It’s amazing to me how many dupes there are that genuinely think it’s the former.

[TheMan]

There was already a poll that showed the LEFT doesnt care who the president is as long as it's not Trump. That poll also went on to say they don't care if candidate policy aligns with theirs as long as their name isn't Trump.

That is by definition TDS, when they've put aside their own values when voting.
You can also argue that Trump has been such an absolute failure at uniting the country that he has that many people wanting to vote his ass out. I doubt any other president in US history has had that many people wanting to see him gone.

You've called Obama the most divisive POTUS ever but his detractors weren't as numerous as Trump's, not even in the same ballpark.

If only Trump would've tried to at least reach out to the other side instead of always demonizing them, so many people wouldn't be so hell bent on getting rid of him. That's on your boy, no one else to blame really...

[Hawker]

You can also argue that Trump has been such an absolute failure at uniting the country that he has that many people wanting to vote his ass out. I doubt any other president in US history has had that many people wanting to see him gone.

You've called Obama the most divisive POTUS ever but his detractors weren't as numerous as Trump's, not even in the same ballpark.

If only Trump would've tried to at least reach out to the other side instead of always demonizing them, so many people wouldn't be so hell bent on getting rid of him. That's on your boy, no one else to blame really...

It's hilarious how you think it's Trump doing the demonizing.

White city liberals have an absolute disdain for anybody that doesn't think like them. Democrats have zero interest at all with collaborating with republicans. They don't like that Trump stands up to their BS and doesn't fold like milquetoast republicans like Bush, McCain and Romney.

[fsvr54]

Kblaze, talk about someone we all used to think was intelligent.