For the first time, the majority of people under 16 in America are nonwhite

[DoctorP]

Deal with it.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90521390/for-the-first-time-the-majority-of-people-under-16-in-america-are-nonwhite-and-hispanic (https://www.fastcompany.com/90521390/for-the-first-time-the-majority-of-people-under-16-in-america-are-nonwhite-and-hispanic)

The face of America is changing fast: In 2019, for the first time ever, nonwhites and Hispanics were the majority for people under the age of 16, signaling a demographic shift that experts expect will continue over the coming decades.

[DoctorP]

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[Kblaze8855]

I read that texas gained 9 new Hispanics for every new white for a period of like 2 years recently. They will be the majority by 2022 or so. I wonder what American politics look like once Texas goes blue just one time coupled with the modern lock on other massive states. It wont in 2020. But the day will come. Texas will be a legit swing state off demographics alone one day and I wonder what the GOP platform will have to be when they cant win New York or California and Texas is even close to a tossup. This old super liberal marine I know tells me im being pessimistic to say texas cant be won yet but.....I dont see it. Maybe 2028 or so. Its coming thats for sure.

Eventually the lock on white males just wont be enough to keep republicans winning elections. Im sure they thank god daily the senate allows 2 people to rep places like Wyoming with 400 thousand people while 2 people rep 40 million and an economy the size of India in Cali.

The near empty middle of the country staying red with relatively few voters will give them an outsized influence for generations even as they have not won a nationwide vote by actual number of voters more than once in the last 30 years(2004).

[The Iron Fist]

I remember when white people would laugh and make jokes about so many Mexicans being smart and sharing one house together while saving money. They aren’t laughing anymore.

[Nanners]

I read that texas gained 9 new Hispanics for every new white for a period of like 2 years recently. They will be the majority by 2022 or so. I wonder what American politics look like once Texas goes blue just one time coupled with the modern lock on other massive states. It wont in 2020. But the day will come. Texas will be a legit swing state off demographics alone one day and I wonder what the GOP platform will have to be when they cant win New York or California and Texas is even close to a tossup. This old super liberal marine I know tells me im being pessimistic to say texas cant be won yet but.....I dont see it. Maybe 2028 or so. Its coming thats for sure.

Eventually the lock on white males just wont be enough to keep republicans winning elections. Im sure they thank god daily the senate allows 2 people to rep places like Wyoming with 400 thousand people while 2 people rep 40 million and an economy the size of India in Cali.

The near empty middle of the country staying red with relatively few voters will give them an outsized influence for generations even as they have not won a nationwide vote by actual number of voters more than once in the last 30 years(2004).

:oldlol:

If you think that republicans are going to go extinct because of changes in demographics, you are in for a huge disappointment.

This isnt the first time that the US has faced changes in demographics, and yet for virtually all of US history (with a couple exceptions like FDR), we have had two relatively evenly matched parties. This is because the whole point of our two party republic is that our elites own both parties and use them to divide and conquer the working class, and thus the parties will always design their policies and messaging to keep a relatively even split.

If or when the GOP starts getting smoked, they will adjust their policies and messaging to steal voters from the dems... that said, as long as the dems keep picking laughably terrible candidates like Hillary and Biden, the GOP probably wont need to make any changes.

[JohnnySic]

The fastest growing groups are Asians and Hispanics, and many/most generally become Republicans after they establish themselves to a certain point. Sorry, the demographic fear mongering doesn't take. :no:

[DoctorP]

I agree with Nanners. Industry is the backbone of the country and influence both parties so ultimately the ones at the top (elites) get first crack at psychologically influencing the masses through sheer financial power.

[Kblaze8855]

No they won’t go away. But I suspect they will be roughly what people consider moderate Democrats now. Kinda like a “liberal” from 60 years ago would still be more socially conservative than some modern republicans.


There isn’t that much difference now but the line is gonna totally blur when they can’t rely on white males making the difference.

[Kblaze8855]

The fastest growing groups are Asians and Hispanics, and many/most generally become Republicans after they establish themselves to a certain point. Sorry, the demographic fear mongering doesn't take. :no:

America grows more liberal over time no matter what. Socially in 50 years people will probably be ashamed of a lot of the things conservatives want now. The people stuck on traditional values at whatever time are generally looked back on like bigots and idiots. I was telling people that on here 18 years ago about gay marriage. Didn’t take long. Now you either accept it or you’re considered backwards. The fiscal issues are different but not by that much.

Give it time. The right of 2050 will be the left of 2020.

[Nanners]

America grows more liberal over time no matter what. Socially in 50 years people will probably be ashamed of a lot of the things conservatives want now.

In 50 years from now, people are going to be tearing down statues of Obama... after all, his career lowlights include things like building those cages where we hold immigrant children, facilitating a genocide in Yemen, reducing Libya from having the highest standard of living in all of Africa to being a war torn hellhole with public slave markets, and personally curating his own "kill list" of drone targets for our barbaric and indescriminate bombing across the middle east.

Funny that you bring up gay marriage as an example of the democrats being ahead of the curve... in 2008 both Obama and Hillary opposed gay marriage in their presidential platforms, Obama didnt come out in support of gay marriage until 2012, and Hillary didnt support gay marriage until 2013. Also, Bill Clinton was the one who passed DOMA in 1996 (which defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman)... which stood until the supreme court found it unconstitutional in 2015, and Bill was also the one who passed dont ask dont tell in 1994.

[Shogon]

I read that texas gained 9 new Hispanics for every new white for a period of like 2 years recently. They will be the majority by 2022 or so. I wonder what American politics look like once Texas goes blue just one time coupled with the modern lock on other massive states. It wont in 2020. But the day will come. Texas will be a legit swing state off demographics alone one day and I wonder what the GOP platform will have to be when they cant win New York or California and Texas is even close to a tossup. This old super liberal marine I know tells me im being pessimistic to say texas cant be won yet but.....I dont see it. Maybe 2028 or so. Its coming thats for sure.

Eventually the lock on white males just wont be enough to keep republicans winning elections. Im sure they thank god daily the senate allows 2 people to rep places like Wyoming with 400 thousand people while 2 people rep 40 million and an economy the size of India in Cali.

The near empty middle of the country staying red with relatively few voters will give them an outsized influence for generations even as they have not won a nationwide vote by actual number of voters more than once in the last 30 years(2004).

It's not really about white males vs minorities... it's about people with real world common sense AND people with money versus people with no real world common sense AND people with no money. That's basically what R v D boils down to. Sure, there are outliers all over the place, but that's the general four blocks of people voting R or D.

You are right, eventually it'll go blue, along with the rest. And as the United States becomes a progressively further and further failed state, whitey won't be able to be blamed any longer.

Widespread blue governance is going to kill the spirit of the American dream. Period. R governance spending tons of money on the military is morally bankrupt as hell, but it's also one of the reasons we've been able to have such a disproportionate say in world politics for as long as we have. In other words, you and I have benefited.

Then again, none of this really matters, the U.S. is going to collapse before it does... the currency is going into the shitter and nobody's paying attention. C'est la vie.

[Norcaliblunt]

that said, as long as the dems keep picking laughably terrible candidates like Hillary and Biden, the GOP probably wont need to make any changes.

The Dem’s have had terrible candidates but after Trump who are the Republicans going to pick? They’ll be just as laughably bad.

[Norcaliblunt]

Widespread blue governance is going to kill the spirit of the American dream. Period. R governance spending tons of money on the military is morally bankrupt as hell, but it's also one of the reasons we've been able to have such a disproportionate say in world politics for as long as we have. In other words, you and I have benefited.


1. The American Dream was the idea that immigrates could come to America and prosper. Lol.

2. The average American did not benefit from the war in Vietnam. It only cost them 60,000 lives and a generation of men who are fcked up.

[Shogon]

1. The American Dream was the idea that immigrates could come to America and prosper. Lol.

2. The average American did not benefit from the war in Vietnam. It only cost them 60,000 lives and a generation of men who are fcked up.

What? Are you fully literate? I'm not sure.

[Norcaliblunt]

I agree with Nanners. Industry is the backbone of the country and influence both parties so ultimately the ones at the top (elites) get first crack at psychologically influencing the masses through sheer financial power.

Yeah and the only way the average person has any leverage is to vote with their money. Don’t support the elite’s and their industries simple as that. Voting is futile when the the real power is made through business transactions.

[Nanners]

The Dem’s have had terrible candidates but after Trump who are the Republicans going to pick? They’ll be just as laughably bad.

Who cares?

Unlike the dems, the republicans have repeatedly shown that they are able to win with a terrible candidate...

[Norcaliblunt]

What? Are you fully literate? I'm not sure.

If you can’t understand my post I should be asking you that question.

[Norcaliblunt]

Who cares?

Unlike the dems, the republicans have repeatedly shown that they are able to win with a terrible candidate...

Who cares? You think a Ted Cruz beats Hilary? Jeb Bush? Lol.

[Nanners]

Who cares? You think a Ted Cruz beats Hilary? Jeb Bush? Lol.

I would not be surprised at all if Cruz or Jeb beat Hillary...

That said, those GOP establishment dinosaurs are probably done. If I had to guess, I would go with a younger candidate who is more of a populist, like Matt Gaetz or something... or maybe another billionaire celebrity like Elon Musk

[Norcaliblunt]

Nah those dinosaurs are done. If I had to guess I would probably go with a younger candidate who is more of a populist, like Matt Gaetz or something... or maybe another billionaire celebrity like Elon Musk

Obama and Trump both showed you have to be new and fresh with no record that’s for sure.

Elon Musk isn’t running for president.

[Shogon]

I would not be surprised at all if Cruz or Jeb beat Hillary...

That said, those GOP establishment dinosaurs are probably done. If I had to guess, I would go with a younger candidate who is more of a populist, like Matt Gaetz or something... or maybe another billionaire celebrity like Elon Musk

Not that I care about any of this, but Elon Musk is not a native citizen. He can't be elected president.


Obama and Trump both showed you have to be new and fresh with no record that’s for sure.

Elon Musk isn’t running for president.

Elon Musk can't run for president even if he wants to.

[Nanners]

Obama and Trump both showed you have to be new and fresh with no record that’s for sure.

Elon Musk isn’t running for president.

All I said was that the GOP wont need to make any major policy changes while the dems are picking terrible candidates... I never claimed to know who is going to be the 2024 republican nominee

[Patrick Chewing]

I think Tim Scott is gaining ground for 2024. He's articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.

[Norcaliblunt]

All I said was that the GOP wont need to make any major policy changes while the dems are picking terrible candidates... I never claimed to know who is going to be the 2024 republican nominee

This tone of the thread was about whether the Republican Party could survive, not policy changes. Of course they’ll survive but after Trump it’s going to be the same old terrible candidates with the same old policy on their side too. Idk maybe we’ll have some third party play for once.

[Kblaze8855]

In 50 years from now, people are going to be tearing down statues of Obama... after all, his career lowlights include things like building those cages where we hold immigrant children, facilitating a genocide in Yemen, reducing Libya from having the highest standard of living in all of Africa to being a war torn hellhole with public slave markets, and personally curating his own "kill list" of drone targets for our barbaric and indescriminate bombing across the middle east.

Funny that you bring up gay marriage as an example of the democrats being ahead of the curve... in 2008 both Obama and Hillary opposed gay marriage in their presidential platforms, Obama didnt come out in support of gay marriage until 2012, and Hillary didnt support gay marriage until 2013. Also, Bill Clinton was the one who passed DOMA in 1996 (which defined marriage as the union of one man and one woman)... which stood until the supreme court found it unconstitutional in 2015, and Bill was also the one who passed dont ask dont tell in 1994.


Correct. And thats kinda my point. The times change and drag the parties with them....with progressive or liberals or whatever you call the left of the time in question generally going with it first. You cant rely on a politician to tell you what he thinks. Generally they say what they must at the moment. But the left has a better history of getting there first. The side making the "This isnt right....it has to change" argument genuine or not is usually just enough time from winning. What I referenced was old ass arguments from the Bush days that went on here on gay marriage and later ones on trans rights where whatever I thought...I told people its a waste of time to suit up to fight it.

You dont win those fights long term. You end up as someone who gets clips played that make your grandkids ashamed of you.

The right can win individual battles in the short term. Big picture wise? Society moves left. Will there be a tipping point where it stops? I assume. But all my life its the right fighting to prevent ____ touting conservative values and then losing to what they will call a radical court...as society tells them to eat a dick.

In time....I think we get to a version of universal healthcare, some version of the various green new deals, a different tax structure that at least appears to the public like it takes more from the rich, and so on.

Bernie is gonna win in spirit he just wont be here to see it.

Lot of resources being used to put off the inevitable by at best a generation. Some of it is interesting to argue in small bursts but big picture?

The left wins. And the battlefield itself is redrawn a little more to the left....and new battles are made up....and the left wins again.

[Nanners]

Correct. And thats kinda my point. The times change and drag the parties with them....with progressive or liberals or whatever you call the left of the time in question generally going with it first. You cant rely on a politician to tell you what he thinks. Generally they say what they must at the moment. But the left has a better history of getting there first. The side making the "This isnt right....it has to change" argument genuine or not is usually just enough time from winning. What I referenced was old ass arguments from the Bush days that went on here on gay marriage and later ones on trans rights where whatever I thought...I told people its a waste of time to suit up to fight it.

You dont win those fights long term. You end up as someone who gets clips played that make your grandkids ashamed of you.

The right can win individual battles in the short term. Big picture wise? Society moves left. Will there be a tipping point where it stops? I assume. But all my life its the right fighting to prevent ____ touting conservative values and then losing to what they will call a radical court...as society tells them to eat a dick.

In time....I think we get to a version of universal healthcare, some version of the various green new deals, a different tax structure that at least appears to the public like it takes more from the rich, and so on.

Bernie is gonna win in spirit he just wont be here to see it.

Lot of resources being used to put off the inevitable by at best a generation. Some of it is interesting to argue in small bursts but big picture?

The left wins. And the battlefield itself is redrawn a little more to the left....and new battles are made up....and the left wins again.

I hope you are right

[Kblaze8855]

It's not really about white males vs minorities... it's about people with real world common sense AND people with money versus people with no real world common sense AND people with no money. That's basically what R v D boils down to. Sure, there are outliers all over the place, but that's the general four blocks of people voting R or D.



Nah. You are in the south. There are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many know nothing hillbillies voting red no matter what to say its people with real world common sense and people with money.

Poor white people in dead end jobs and no potential have been voting for whatever republican you put in front of them for some time. Especially the men.

The rate of poor white trailer park men voting red must be astronomical.

[Norcaliblunt]

What happens is elites fight against progress until they can find a way to manipulate and own it then use it against you.

[Kblaze8855]

I hope you are right


For better or worse Bernie is gonna end up considered the father of modern politics in time like James harden and scorers in the NBA(give it 10 years). He will be long gone but he created too many believers. I was rooting for him. I voted for him vs Hillary but the world wasnt quite ready. Not enough young people yet to counter the old. When those young people are 35 and the old are dead.....Bernies positions will be fairly normal I suspect.

[Nanners]

For better or worse Bernie is gonna end up considered the father of modern politics in time like James harden and scorers in the NBA(give it 10 years). He will be long gone but he created too many believers. I was rooting for him. I voted for him vs Hillary but the world wasnt quite ready. Not enough young people yet to counter the old. When those young people are 35 and the old are dead.....Bernies positions will be fairly normal I suspect.

Again I hope you are right... but I think its far more likely that Bernie is going to end up like George Wallace - a massively popular progressive who got cheated by the DNC and then was mostly forgotten.

[Shogon]

Bernie Sanders may end up being right about healthcare but his ideas about income distribution/redistribution aren't really genuine. They've just helped him skate through life talking on the sidelines. He's a massively hypocritical gigantic piece of steaming shit of a human being.

[Kblaze8855]

Wallace is such an odd character. You read a transcript from 1955 it could be Donald Trump yesterday if you take out segregation references. Complaints of a left wing media, talking about getting tough on protesters, and how the left wants to make America socialist. He’d have to pull a Trump in 2020 and be a Democrat running as a Republican to even get heard from.

[Norcaliblunt]

Bernie Sanders never wanted to be president. Dudes campaign was a joke in 2016. He could’ve went at Hilary the way Trump not only attacked her but how Trump destroyed the whole GOP. He chose not to, so the writing was on the wall back then. His idiot supporters should have figured out another candidate to run in 2020.

[FKAri]

It's not really about white males vs minorities... it's about people with real world common sense AND people with money versus people with no real world common sense AND people with no money. That's basically what R v D boils down to. Sure, there are outliers all over the place, but that's the general four blocks of people voting R or D.

You are right, eventually it'll go blue, along with the rest. And as the United States becomes a progressively further and further failed state, whitey won't be able to be blamed any longer.

Widespread blue governance is going to kill the spirit of the American dream. Period. R governance spending tons of money on the military is morally bankrupt as hell, but it's also one of the reasons we've been able to have such a disproportionate say in world politics for as long as we have. In other words, you and I have benefited.

Then again, none of this really matters, the U.S. is going to collapse before it does... the currency is going into the shitter and nobody's paying attention. C'est la vie.

The Republicans represent deception and cognitive dissonance. Not real world common sense. They don't even stand for their own purported values. What they actually stand for contradicts their own platform. It's why Donald Trump was able to so easily walk in and commandeer the party. He called out things like the party's deceptive rhetoric and lingering neocon infestation.

[Kblaze8855]

Attacking judges:


But judges, he said, "don't hang their pants on the wall and jump into them every day, they step in one leg at a time like I do," bringing laughter and applause from the audience.



Countries should pay for us to give them troops:


"We're proud to have rehabilitated Western Europe and we have our NATO troops there to provide a shield or umbrella against the Communists. What we are trying to say is that Western Europe is rich and should pay for keeping troops."



He said the liberal news media downplayed his crowd sizes. At one event(with like 3500 people) he said "Welcome to all 300 of you"



Suggested running over and killing protesters:


“I tell you when November comes, the first time they lie down in front of my limousine, it’ll be the last one they ever lay down in front of; their day is over!”


“We don’t have riots in Alabama. They start a riot down there, first one of ‘em to pick up a brick gets a bullet in the brain, that’s all. And then you walk over to the next one and say, ‘All right, pick up a brick. We just want to see you pick up one of them bricks, now!’ ”



“You can’t talk about law and order unless they want to call you a racist. I tell you that’s not true and I resent it and they gonna have to pay attention!”





A serious hate of his national party to:



"I am an Alabama Democrat, not a national Democrat. IÂ’m not kin to those folks. The difference between a national Democrat and an Alabama Democrat is like the difference between a Communist and a non-Communist."




Communist-controlled beatnik mobs in the streets influence national affairs in Washington, D.C.



"And it is a sad day in our country that you cannot walk even in your neighborhoods at night or even in the daytime because both national parties, in the last number of years, have kowtowed to every group of anarchists that have roamed the streets of San Francisco and Los Angeles and throughout the country. And now they have created themselves a Frankenstein monster, and the chickens are coming home to roost all over this country." "Yes, theyÂ’ve looked down their nose at you and me a long time. TheyÂ’ve called us rednecks -- the Republicans and the Democrats. Well, weÂ’re going to show, there sure are a lot of rednecks in this country."



"We havenÂ’t been against people. WeÂ’ve been against big government trying to take over and write a guideline for you and tell you how to cross the street, what to do with your union and your business when you know how to do it yourself."

[Kblaze8855]

Just an interesting guy. Hated liberals, the left, socialism, rich people, talked about America first, killing protesters, and the biased left wing media making him seem racist. I just wish I could peer into a world where 1950s Wallace could run in 2016. Hated democrats...and republicans...but considered himself conservative in every way...while being called progressive.

[highwhey]

I read that texas gained 9 new Hispanics for every new white for a period of like 2 years recently. They will be the majority by 2022 or so.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xUOwG5CbR21NphaVQA/source.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/xUOwG5CbR21NphaVQA/source.gif

https://www.clattoverata.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sign21.jpg

[Nanners]

Just an interesting guy. Hated liberals, the left, socialism, rich people, talked about America first, killing protesters, and the biased left wing media making him seem racist. I just wish I could peer into a world where 1950s Wallace could run in 2016. Hated democrats...and republicans...but considered himself conservative in every way...while being called progressive.

No doubt... Wallace was a complex man, a mishapen peg who didnt fit into the round hole or the square hole... truly a man of the people (imo).

Have you ever watched the Oliver Stone documentary "untold history of the US"? He spends a lot of time covering Wallace

[Hittin_Shots]

Wonder how they'll claim victim next while being the majority.

[highwhey]

Wonder how they'll claim victim next while being the majority.

i mean, white people claim victim as the current majority, or is that not a convenient truth for you?

"them mexicans took our jerbs"

[Mask the Embiid]

They are boiling on the inside.But they cant express it because they dont want another group of people to hate their guts (the future majority). So they have to suffer in silence.

https://i.gifer.com/AOYM.gif


#youhadagoodrun #alllivesmatterlol

[FultzNationRISE]

They are boiling on the inside.But they cant express it because they dont want another group of people to hate their guts (the future majority). So they have to suffer in silence.

https://i.gifer.com/AOYM.gif


#youhadagoodrun #alllivesmatterlol


This is correct.

Nobody wants to be demographically replaced.

And we did have a good run.

But all good things must come to an end.

The question is, whom will the future be good for in America?

If people think the answer is “the average black and hispanic person,” I think they may be in for some disappointing plot twists.

[Vino24]

Can we stop calling them a minority group yet?

[Phong]

Wonder how they'll claim victim next while being the majority.Low income families are the ones breeding like rabbits. They may have more bodies, but they're still at the bottom of the totem pole.

[diamenz]

it's not like anything will change in the city. white neighborhoods will basically stay the same and black & brown communities will become more dense than they already are and accentuate the problems that they already have. the only thing that will change are the statistics. you won't see it. it's not like well to do colored people are popping out babies at a rising, staggering rate.

[tpols]

Just an interesting guy. Hated liberals, the left, socialism, rich people, talked about America first, killing protesters, and the biased left wing media making him seem racist. I just wish I could peer into a world where 1950s Wallace could run in 2016. Hated democrats...and republicans...but considered himself conservative in every way...while being called progressive.

he sounds like a GOAT presidential candidate just like the Don.

[Kblaze8855]

No doubt... Wallace was a complex man, a mishapen peg who didnt fit into the round hole or the square hole... truly a man of the people (imo).

Have you ever watched the Oliver Stone documentary "untold history of the US"? He spends a lot of time covering Wallace

I don’t think so but I remember someone here telling me I’d stolen a bunch of thoughts from it in some topic years ago so I remember wanting to watch it. I might as wel this weekend since I can’t go out. I’ll report back.


And yea he may have been a man of the people...but in 50s Alabama that makes it hard to not be a scumbag in ways doesn’t it? He got shot then spent the rest of his life apologizing for his words at the time.

You know how shooter was nearly tied to the democrats by a Nixon frame attempt looking to steal his voters instead of having them go back to democrats?

Those were the good days of scandal. Fixers dispatched directly from the Oval Office to do vile shit. These days it’s too hard to prove anything.

[Whoah10115]

What? Are you fully literate? I'm not sure.

Sounds like your go-to