View Full Version : Tupac was a hardcore communist
tpols
06-26-2020, 10:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL-ZoNhUFmc
He was without a doubt a radical leftist and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a communist. His parents were Black Panthers after all.  Such a brilliant mind lost too soon.
warriorfan
06-26-2020, 10:30 AM
2pac was pretty damn sharp. Even more when you consider his age. He had some great points though.
“Everybody needs a little help in order to be self dependent” 
This is true. If you don’t have a strong family teaching you values of life and hard work...chances are you won’t be successfully independent person. People like that are grown and taught, not born. And this isn’t even really diving into the monetary side of things. 
He says “it doesn’t mean you are good and bad” when talking about the differences between successful and unsuccessful people. Which is true and goes back to the first part. I believe there are very few “bad seeds”. A huge portion of a persons fate is in direct correlation with their upbringing and support systems. A lot of these people society deems as bad people, never really had a shot in the first place. 
“You earn it, but you still owe.”
When he started going off about rich giving to the poor the interviewer asked if the rich earned it. They earned it but they still owe. They do. Their success was fostered here and there should be a responsibility to upkeep what was able to give you a successful life. It’s also in their best interest even if they don’t know it. If all the successful ignore everyone else for long enough, it will come back to haunt them. But focusing on sustainability hasn’t really been a big priority for us....ever? I know taxes are supposed to be doing this job but with the circumventions and mismanagement of money from the government. It’s not really enough.
Also :roll: at the clickbait title. He uses Trump as an example of a greedy rich person, and that’s if. He doesn’t actually discuss him.
Shogon
06-26-2020, 10:40 AM
He's right that everyone needs help.  You don't typically come out of the womb destined for greatness or ruin.  However, that is on the family to do.  Not the government.  And that's what brain dead left wing morons will literally never understand.  The government always fails.  C'est la vie.
In an ideal world, some of the things if not almost everything he's saying are/is correct... but he is speaking from a lack of common sense and a lack of real world experience.  He is speaking as a child would.  That is it.  That's the crux.
And people absolutely SHOULD be taking care of one another.  Billionaires and millionaires should be helping their communities out through their OWN VOLITION.  NOT THROUGH GOVERNMENT!! GOVERNMENT IS DEATH!!
Norcaliblunt
06-26-2020, 10:43 AM
I got words for my comrades, listen and learn
Ain't nothing free, give back what you earn
https://youtu.be/n6on3lSEb7U
Norcaliblunt
06-26-2020, 10:47 AM
He's right that everyone needs help.  You don't typically come out of the womb destined for greatness or ruin.  However, that is on the family to do.  Not the government.  And that's what brain dead left wing morons will literally never understand.  The government always fails.  C'est la vie.
In an ideal world, some of the things if not almost everything he's saying are/is correct... but he is speaking from a lack of common sense and a lack of real world experience.  He is speaking as a child would.  That is it.  That's the crux.
And people absolutely SHOULD be taking care of one another.  Billionaires and millionaires should be helping their communities out through their OWN VOLITION.  NOT THROUGH GOVERNMENT!! GOVERNMENT IS DEATH!!
Are you an anarcho capitalist?
kabar
06-26-2020, 10:48 AM
He's right that everyone needs help.  You don't typically come out of the womb destined for greatness or ruin.  However, that is on the family to do.  Not the government.  And that's what brain dead left wing morons will literally never understand.  The government always fails.  C'est la vie.
In an ideal world, some of the things if not almost everything he's saying are/is correct... but he is speaking from a lack of common sense and a lack of real world experience.  He is speaking as a child would.  That is it.  That's the crux.
And people absolutely SHOULD be taking care of one another.  Billionaires and millionaires should be helping their communities out through their OWN VOLITION.  NOT THROUGH GOVERNMENT!! GOVERNMENT IS DEATH!!
This is true. Government welfare programs made single parent houses more viable financially, and overly punitive drug laws/private prison industry have created financial incentives to jail low level drug offenders for decades. Government steals and then uses your money to **** everything up.
tpols
06-26-2020, 10:49 AM
actually it is the government that can do it. the USA is far more greedy than other western nations and first world countries. we have way more poor and way more rich than them. way less in the middle. Euro governments actually help their people and have way better labor laws that protect the common man and afford him or her the ability to make a secured living. They also have way better medical systems that are government ran, while our capitalist system is in shambles.
n00bie
06-26-2020, 10:49 AM
We're brainwashed to think Communism is evil.. but the basic principle of Communism is to eliminate poverty. 
Downside is, there will always be corruption in Government, which is why Communism will never work.
Norcaliblunt
06-26-2020, 10:50 AM
This is true. Government welfare programs made single parent houses more viable financially, and overly punitive drug laws and the private prison industry have created financial incentives to jail low level drug offenders for decades. Government steals and then uses your money to **** everything up.
Anarchism is the only way.
warriorfan
06-26-2020, 10:54 AM
He's right that everyone needs help.  You don't typically come out of the womb destined for greatness or ruin.  However, that is on the family to do.  Not the government.  And that's what brain dead left wing morons will literally never understand.  The government always fails.  C'est la vie.
In an ideal world, some of the things if not almost everything he's saying are/is correct... but he is speaking from a lack of common sense and a lack of real world experience.  He is speaking as a child would.  That is it.  That's the crux.
And people absolutely SHOULD be taking care of one another.  Billionaires and millionaires should be helping their communities out through their OWN VOLITION.  NOT THROUGH GOVERNMENT!! GOVERNMENT IS DEATH!!
That is what he was getting at. That the private super wealthy people make a more honest effort in giving back. Especially after the government has failed so many times. It seems like the bigger the government gets, the accountability, efficiency, and overall effectiveness decreases. 
We might need to make a huge effort to switch to a more idealistic world. As of now we are programmed for me first, everyone else be damned. And most of the population does feel and act that way heavily. Don’t ask me how but if it was possible to switch that from a me to an us mindset, things would start getting better. 
It’s either that or rounding up all the poor, old, and fat people and killing them.
tpols
06-26-2020, 10:57 AM
We're brainwashed to think Communism is evil.. but the basic principle of Communism is to eliminate poverty. 
Downside is, there will always be corruption in Government, which is why Communism will never work.
thats the downside?
LOL... the USA government is one of the most corrupt regimes in the world and were running on a heavy capitalist system.
business elite pull all the strings in congress with their "donations". (bribes)
Norcaliblunt
06-26-2020, 10:58 AM
Who thinks a universal go fund me page would be better than welfare?
Shogon
06-26-2020, 10:59 AM
That is what he was getting at. That the private super wealthy people make a more honest effort in giving back. Especially after the government has failed so many times. It seems like the bigger the government gets, the accountability, efficiency, and overall effectiveness decreases. 
We might need to make a huge effort to switch to a more idealistic world. As of now we are programmed for me first, everyone else be damned. And most of the population does feel and act that way heavily. Don’t ask me how but if it was possible to switch that from a me to an us mindset, things would start getting better. 
It’s either that or rounding up all the poor, old, and fat people and killing them.
He's just running his mouth about ideals as all lefties do.  Look at him... gold chains around his neck and gold rings on his fingers, counting other people's pockets talking about how they should be sheltering and feeding the homeless and hungry... newsflash, you don't need those chains or rings... sell them and feed the homeless.
lul.
Lefties always trying to count other people's pockets.  Always.
It's just childish.  That's all it is.  Ugh.
Norcaliblunt
06-26-2020, 11:00 AM
thats the downside?
LOL... the USA government is one of the most corrupt regimes in the world and were running on a heavy capitalist system.
business elite pull all the strings in congress with their "donations". (bribes)
 
That’s the problem. Giving them a system they can bribe in the first place.
n00bie
06-26-2020, 11:03 AM
thats the downside?
LOL... the USA government is one of the most corrupt regimes in the world and were running on a heavy capitalist system.
business elite pull all the strings in congress with their "donations". (bribes)
Yes. If a country has 1 billion in revenue coming in.. and its suppose to be distributed to the civilians.. what happens when 500 million of that revenue magically disappears? So only 500 million to feed everyone. 
When you give people the power to control the wealth of a country.. what do you think will happen?
tpols
06-26-2020, 11:09 AM
Yes. If a country has 1 billion in revenue coming in.. and its suppose to be distributed to the civilians.. what happens when 500 million of that revenue magically disappears? So only 500 million to feed everyone. 
When you give people the power to control the wealth of a country.. what do you think will happen?
that already happens with our government and elite business class. our capitalist system is 25 trillion dollars in the hole. 
you're complaining about communism making money dissappear... that happens for capitalism too. lol... people are people it doesnt matter what theyre label is, greed is infinite.
honestly its only the homogenous countries like ireland, japan, scandanavia and germany where people truly have a "collective" mindset towards making society work and not just "give me mine".
 Our system is set up to fail soooo bad right now and people are complaining the other side is wrong while we ourselves fail. too funny...
warriorfan
06-26-2020, 11:16 AM
He's just running his mouth about ideals as all lefties do.  Look at him... gold chains around his neck and gold rings on his fingers, counting other people's pockets talking about how they should be sheltering and feeding the homeless and hungry... newsflash, you don't need those chains or rings... sell them and feed the homeless.
lul.
Lefties always trying to count other people's pockets.  Always.
It's just childish.  That's all it is.  Ugh.
His agenda is questionable. Chances are a lot of it what he is saying are things that people want to hear as Akrazotile so commonly expounds upon. However it doesn’t chance the fact that a lot of what he said was true. 
We have deep rooted problems in our country and people keep trying to apply superficial fixes. A bigger issue is that we are by majority a spiritual empty population with no real set of morals. Most people don’t do the right thing to do the right thing, it’s out of self preservation so they won’t go to jail. We are fundamentally extremely selfish and shortsighted. Tbh we will most probably end up fading out of existence well before any of these problems get resolved.
He's just running his mouth about ideals as all lefties do.  Look at him... gold chains around his neck and gold rings on his fingers, counting other people's pockets talking about how they should be sheltering and feeding the homeless and hungry... newsflash, you don't need those chains or rings... sell them and feed the homeless.
lul.
Lefties always trying to count other people's pockets.  Always.
It's just childish.  That's all it is.  Ugh.
 https://i.imgflip.com/46f4t6.jpg
2Pac’s agenda isn’t questionable lmao. He was raised by a radical leftist mother and his lyrics are pretty consistently in that political realm.
Shogon
06-26-2020, 11:21 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/46f4t6.jpg
The left can't meme.
Seriously that may be one of the least funny pictures I've ever seen when thinking you're making some grand point that's funny.  Well done, dipshit.  Well done.  Stick to the things you're good at.
Norcaliblunt
06-26-2020, 11:24 AM
The easiest thing to do would be to buy your food from a local small farm and stop supporting corporate entertainment. Scale back your life and don’t support the system through your time, energy, and money. But that isn’t going to happen. Lol.
rawimpact
06-26-2020, 11:34 AM
Communism is popular in the hood
warriorfan
06-26-2020, 11:34 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/46f4t6.jpg
It does completely fly in the face with what he was preaching. He was asking how people with multiple homes sleep at night knowing that others are homeless and starving. 
Although with the same line of reasoning you could slam a pro bono lawyer for wearing an expensive suit.  He needs it for his job which allows him to do a good cause. 
The real test would be to see what Tupac would be doing if he was still alive today.
DoctorP
06-26-2020, 02:12 PM
https://youtu.be/YvFFIoPO1mU
DoctorP
06-26-2020, 02:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oK7rHxh.jpg
Doomsday Dallas
06-26-2020, 07:21 PM
Wasn't 2pac suppose to come out with Death Row East? I'm still waiting for that.
Im Still Ballin
06-26-2020, 07:36 PM
One of the greatest minds of our time.
diamenz
06-26-2020, 08:23 PM
Wasn't 2pac suppose to come out with Death Row East? I'm still waiting for that.
:lol
it's true though, pac had some major collabs with a handful of ec & southern artists like dj premiere, scarface & outkast on the table before he got merked.  he had an entire album called 'one nation' already recorded with the boot camp click that never saw a release.
MrFonzworth
06-26-2020, 08:54 PM
Tupac IS a hardcore communist.
2Pac is actually the current leader of Cuba. Raul Castro is just a figurehead.
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