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Cleverness
06-27-2020, 02:22 AM
Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June, but will that actually happen?

https://www.aier.org/article/imperial-college-model-applied-to-sweden-yields-preposterous-results/

June 26th - they're currently at 5,280 deaths with COVID-19. (Population of Sweden: 10.1 million)

It seems the virus is about 5% as deadly as projected, perhaps even less since it's only killing people who are already dying of other illnesses. Here's the data on Sweden:

http://inproportion2.talkigy.com/se_mortality24jun.html

74% of deaths were in care homes / home-help services (they could have done better in this area)

Median age of Sweden is 40.9 years old.

0.4% of deaths in <40 years old

99.6% of deaths 40+ years old
96% of deaths in 60+ years old
90% of deaths in 70+ years old


There are approximately 90,000 deaths each year in Sweden. 88,822 people died in 2019 – the lowest number of deaths in a single year since 1977, and 3.3% less than the average over 2016–2018. The Covid-19 outbreak in 2020 may have claimed a larger number of very frail and elderly people than it would have in a different year, due to the previous influenza season being less severe. Indeed, 2018-19 was reported to have been less intense than the five previous flu seasons in Sweden.

All cause mortality in Sweden for Jan 1 - June 14 is roughly the same as 2015. By the end of the year it will probably be lower. Remember how deadly 2015 was? Yeah, no, you don't.


Did not lockdown
Did not panic everyday
Did not print trillions of dollars for big banks/corporations
Did not mandate masks
Did not shutdown schools
Did not overwhelm hospitals

Stanley Kobrick
06-27-2020, 02:27 AM
don't vaccinate your kids it's a corporate scam. also check out ops blog on flat earth, climate change and moon landings

ZenMaster
06-27-2020, 05:06 AM
Sweden lashed out at the World Health Organization for listing it among countries deemed at-risk. The country made headlines for its high death toll after opting not to introduce a strict lockdown.

"We have an increase in cases because we have begun testing much more in Sweden the past week," said Swedish state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell.


https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/top-us-virus-expert-warns-of-serious-problem-as-cases-surge.801351

tpols
06-27-2020, 09:25 AM
i remember watching the interview with sweden's leader or whatever... guy was basically shrugging it off and saying they arent following the hysteria.

that's evolution right there out the north.

MrFonzworth
06-27-2020, 10:13 AM
don't vaccinate your kids it's a corporate scam. also check out ops blog on flat earth, climate change and moon landings

:roll:

He would be the guy on here who has a blog.

Rooster
06-27-2020, 12:39 PM
i remember watching the interview with sweden's leader or whatever... guy was basically shrugging it off and saying they arent following the hysteria.

that's evolution right there out the north.

Their neighbors at their land border Norway and Finland has 249 and 328 deaths in doing conventional lockdown measures. Still giving Sweden props for thinking outside the box and beating that predictions. Over 5k deaths and most of them are dead men walking (over 70). Still far from their end game, so called herd immunity which at least 50% cases. So they need over 5 millions cases and going by their death rate so far , at least 400 k lives of the sick and the trails or in their case, the old. I’m pulling for that experiment and hopefully it works.

FKAri
06-27-2020, 12:45 PM
Their neighbors at their land border Norway and Finland has 249 and 328 deaths in doing conventional lockdown measures. Still giving Sweden props for thinking outside the box and beating that predictions. Over 5k deaths and most of them are dead men walking (over 70). Still far from their end game, so called herd immunity which at least 50% cases. So they need over 5 millions cases and going by their death rate so far , at least 400 k lives of the sick and the trails or in their case, the old. I’m pulling for that experiment and hopefully it works.

Not doing much isn't outside the box thinking. What Korea did is good outside the box thinking.

Rooster
06-27-2020, 01:14 PM
Not doing much isn't outside the box thinking. What Korea did is good outside the box thinking.

Hmmm not really. What South Korea did was conventional . Mass testing, tracing and mandatory isolation have been a established guideline for preventing epidemic outbreaks . Though they both did not imposed a lockdown, Sweden went on zero fcuks given and roll the dice with herb immunity.

FKAri
06-27-2020, 01:51 PM
Hmmm not really. What South Korea did was conventional . Mass testing, tracing and mandatory isolation have been a established guideline for preventing epidemic outbreaks . Though they both did not imposed a lockdown, Sweden went on zero fcuks given and roll the dice with herb immunity.

Korea was not conventional at all. What mass testing? They have a quarter of the US's tests per capita. South Korea threw big data analysis into movement tracked by cell phones to estimate potential carriers. They then used that to initiate contact tracing. That way you don't need an army of professional to get the job done. They then extrapolated where their hot zones are and established rapid testing stations in just those zones. No other country did this. Meanwhile in the West, we were busy debating how not to hurt people's liberties, freedoms, consumer confidence and their fragile mentality until we decided to just take those things away anyways. Oh and their jobs and business as well while we're at it. But not the big businesses because they're "important".

tpols
06-27-2020, 02:24 PM
Their neighbors at their land border Norway and Finland has 249 and 328 deaths in doing conventional lockdown measures. Still giving Sweden props for thinking outside the box and beating that predictions. Over 5k deaths and most of them are dead men walking (over 70). Still far from their end game, so called herd immunity which at least 50% cases. So they need over 5 millions cases and going by their death rate so far , at least 400 k lives of the sick and the trails or in their case, the old. I’m pulling for that experiment and hopefully it works.

you need to come out of your safe space.

life is fragile and reoccurring.

tomtucker
06-27-2020, 02:25 PM
Sweden was projected to have 100,000 COVID deaths by end of June,

no they were not not

Rooster
06-27-2020, 02:30 PM
Korea was not conventional at all. What mass testing? They have a quarter of the US's tests per capita. South Korea threw big data analysis into movement tracked by cell phones to estimate potential carriers. They then used that to initiate contact tracing. That way you don't need an army of professional to get the job done. They then extrapolated where their hot zones are and established rapid testing stations in just those zones. No other country did this. Meanwhile in the West, we were busy debating how not to hurt people's liberties, freedoms, consumer confidence and their fragile mentality until we decided to just take those things away anyways. Oh and their jobs and business as well while we're at it. But not the big businesses because they're "important".

They did a mass testing on particular church group when they have an initial outbreak. About 4 k out of 240 k was positive. They were already producing 100 k test kits a day after they have a positive case January 20.

Cleverness
06-27-2020, 02:56 PM
https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/top-us-virus-expert-warns-of-serious-problem-as-cases-surge.801351

Mhm.

74% of deaths were in care homes / home-help services (they admitted they could have done better to protect the old folks homes, but overall a huge success).

100,000 projected dead turned out to be roughly no difference in all cause mortality from 2015. No overwhelmed hospitals. The long-term benefits of not having a lockdown and mass destruction of daily lives (including children) was a huge success. We should have followed Sweden the entire time. Too bad we went the opposite direction and quarantined our young/healthy, stole liberty from everyone, shoved COVID-19 patients into nursing homes (Cuomo, Whitmer...), 40 million unemployed, small businesses made illegal, etc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbiNnXxX0AEpKlz?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbcrR3lX0AAGSFs?format=jpg&name=medium

(Translation: cases / ICU / deaths)

Cleverness
06-27-2020, 02:59 PM
Hmmm not really. What South Korea did was conventional . Mass testing, tracing and mandatory isolation have been a established guideline for preventing epidemic outbreaks . Though they both did not imposed a lockdown, Sweden went on zero fcuks given and roll the dice with herb immunity.

Hmmm not really.

Sweden didn't roll the dice. The weighed pros and cons and chose the correct path.

warriorfan
06-27-2020, 05:16 PM
It’s almost like it’s just the flu.

Cleverness
07-31-2020, 10:52 PM
Sweden Update

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeRNbXMX0AglTIz?format=png&name=large

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Population 10.1 million

Zero deaths w/ COVID in past 3 days
Six deaths w/ COVID in past 10 days

No lockdowns
No masks
No hysteria
No multi-trillion dollar gifts to special interests
No bullshit

Hittin_Shots
07-31-2020, 11:21 PM
Does that say Sweden themselves predicted 100k deaths by June? Looks like they set themselves up to look like a win and you're living proof it's worked for them OP.

Hittin_Shots
07-31-2020, 11:24 PM
Korea was not conventional at all. What mass testing? They have a quarter of the US's tests per capita. South Korea threw big data analysis into movement tracked by cell phones to estimate potential carriers. They then used that to initiate contact tracing. That way you don't need an army of professional to get the job done. They then extrapolated where their hot zones are and established rapid testing stations in just those zones. No other country did this. Meanwhile in the West, we were busy debating how not to hurt people's liberties, freedoms, consumer confidence and their fragile mentality until we decided to just take those things away anyways. Oh and their jobs and business as well while we're at it. But not the big businesses because they're "important".

Australia implemented an app to keep track of Covid outbreaks. But it wasn't exactly forced. They're locking down any suburb with that becomes a hotspot. Victorians aren't allowed out of their state but the fkwits keep trying to leave.

Cleverness
07-31-2020, 11:44 PM
Does that say Sweden themselves predicted 100k deaths by June? Looks like they set themselves up to look like a win and you're living proof it's worked for them OP.

Nah, based on IHME models. See the second sentence (link) of my original post...

No lockdowns
No masks
No hysteria
No multi-trillion dollar gifts to special interests
No bullshit

The US, OTOH, has destroyed itself by putting quack scientists in charge of the country.

Hittin_Shots
08-01-2020, 01:51 AM
Nah, based on IHME models. See the second sentence (link) of my original post...

No lockdowns
No masks
No hysteria
No multi-trillion dollar gifts to special interests
No bullshit

The US, OTOH, has destroyed itself by putting quack scientists in charge of the country.

So the same thing that predicted 2.2m deaths in US that is always shit on is the go to here?

FourthTenor
08-01-2020, 02:07 AM
So the same thing that predicted 2.2m deaths in US that is always shit on is the go to here?



Youre not very intelligent, are you....

coin24
08-01-2020, 02:19 AM
Australia implemented an app to keep track of Covid outbreaks. But it wasn't exactly forced. They're locking down any suburb with that becomes a hotspot. Victorians aren't allowed out of their state but the fkwits keep trying to leave.

The covid safe app which has been admitted to not work and hasn't traced a single case?
It was something stupid like the app can't trace you unless it's open:oldlol:

When people go into bars or pubs etc they use a sign in sheet or scan their phone so they can be contacted in the event of a covid case.

Agreed with the Victorian's though, they had a mini outbreak then the assholes travelled interstate and now all the domestic borders are shutting again:facepalm

jstern
08-01-2020, 03:25 AM
Wow, so Manny98 was right? Mind blown.

Overdrive
08-01-2020, 07:12 AM
Sweden Update

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeRNbXMX0AglTIz?format=png&name=large

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Population 10.1 million

Zero deaths w/ COVID in past 3 days
Six deaths w/ COVID in past 10 days

No lockdowns
No masks
No hysteria
No multi-trillion dollar gifts to special interests
No bullshit

They still have the measures we use rn. No big indoor crowds for example. It's not like they went their normal ways.

Axe
08-01-2020, 07:33 AM
Sweden Update

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeRNbXMX0AglTIz?format=png&name=large

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Population 10.1 million

Zero deaths w/ COVID in past 3 days
Six deaths w/ COVID in past 10 days

No lockdowns
No masks
No hysteria
No multi-trillion dollar gifts to special interests
No bullshit
Sweden atm while this pandemic is still being highly politicized in a certain shitty third world country with money hungry third rate politicians somewhere in sea. :facepalm

JEFFERSON MONEY
08-01-2020, 11:29 AM
Sweden has been charitable and accommodating to needy immigrants.

tpols
08-01-2020, 03:00 PM
Sweden Update

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeRNbXMX0AglTIz?format=png&name=large

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Population 10.1 million

Zero deaths w/ COVID in past 3 days
Six deaths w/ COVID in past 10 days

No lockdowns
No masks
No hysteria
No multi-trillion dollar gifts to special interests
No bullshit

Those scandinavian countries are super boss. (high IQ)

Just gave the whole world the middle finger on their globalist agenda and did their own thing.

:rockon:

Hittin_Shots
08-02-2020, 12:27 AM
Youre not very intelligent, are you....

What did I say that was incorrect fktard?