Can we please just split the country in two?

[Shogon]

Look, not everyone is perfectly R or perfectly D but I'd be willing to bet that most people would have a side that they'd prefer given a split.

So... anyways... let's just split. The dems can do their thing, and the repubs can do their thing. Our political system is a shit show and I'm just over it.

I know which side will thrive financially and socially regardless of where resources lie. It's just a cold hard fact. Deep in their hearts, everyone else knows too. Reality is a ruthless, heartless bitch. I will happily take the retards on the right with me, of which there are many, if it means I can be rid of the retards on the left. HAPPILY.

[highwhey]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Berlinermauer.jpg/267px-Berlinermauer.jpg

[Norcaliblunt]

Lol. You’re a stupid fcking idiot.

[Gabe Ball]

Yes, a great wall. It's gonna be huge. It's gonna big.

[Axe]

Count and try

There you have it

[DoctorP]

Got this Chinese chick, had to leave her quick
'Cause she kept bootlegging my shit, man (https://genius.com/Jay-z-girls-girls-girls-lyrics#note-8873070)
I got this African chick with Eddie Murphy on her skull
She like, "Jigga Man, why you treat me like animal?"
I'm like, "Excuse me, Ms. Fufu, but when I met your ass
You was dead broke and naked, and now you want half" (https://genius.com/Jay-z-girls-girls-girls-lyrics#note-14614)

-JAY-Z

[tpols]

this guy always postures himself as some wise man, but he's a ****ing manic idiot lol.

[Patrick Chewing]

We are so far split that separating the country in two is not a bad idea. The Democrats clearly have a problem with this Constitution. Let them write a new one that serves their interests then.

I give it less than five years before they come crawling back.

[Rooster]

We are so far split that separating the country in two is not a bad idea. The Democrats clearly have a problem with this Constitution. Let them write a new one that serves their interests then.

I give it less than five years before they come crawling back.

The rate of intelligence of our people had gone down to shit for that to happen .

[Vino24]

Op belongs in California like all the other dups

[kabar]

We have that. It's called cities and states. Move, unless you're too poor you have to complain on a message board.

[~primetime~]

We're already split

Urban and rural

If we tried to create two countries, one would be pure farm land and the other would be one huge city

[Shogon]

We have that. It's called cities and states. Move, unless you're too poor you have to complain on a message board.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/57e5b1257bbfe74f1c6c7c49a067eb51/tenor.gif

[ItsMillerTime]

this guy always postures himself as some wise man, but he's a ****ing manic idiot lol.

The OP? 100%

Almost as bad as Starface..... almost.

[MrFonzworth]

this guy always postures himself as some wise man, but he's a ****ing manic idiot lol.

This. I fell victim. He fked up my life back in the day giving me Bitcoin advice. I have since dedicated everything I do to destroying him and everything he stands for.

[RRR3]

I’d be cool with this as long as people like Biden, Obama, Hillary and Pelosi go on the “right” side where they belong. Nothing left about any of them.

[Stanley Kobrick]

This. I fell victim. He fked up my life back in the day giving me Bitcoin advice. I have since dedicated everything I do to destroying him and everything he stands for.
:(

[Shooter]

This. I fell victim. He fked up my life back in the day giving me Bitcoin advice. I have since dedicated everything I do to destroying him and everything he stands for.

Damn. All $17 dollars down the drain eh? #FonzWillRebuild

[bladefd]

Look, not everyone is perfectly R or perfectly D but I'd be willing to bet that most people would have a side that they'd prefer given a split.

So... anyways... let's just split. The dems can do their thing, and the repubs can do their thing. Our political system is a shit show and I'm just over it.

I know which side will thrive financially and socially regardless of where resources lie. It's just a cold hard fact. Deep in their hearts, everyone else knows too. Reality is a ruthless, heartless bitch. I will happily take the retards on the right with me, of which there are many, if it means I can be rid of the retards on the left. HAPPILY.

Liberals would thrive financially and socially, right? Liberal side has majority of the scientists, professors, doctors, engineers, STEM people. Majority of corporations, including Tesla/Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/SpaceX/IBM/Boeing/Lockheed/etc, would all follow them because they are nothing without the STEM people, who are the brains behind the operation. Liberals on average tend to also be more educated so I bet more universities/professors would follow towards the liberal side. Even organizations like NASA/NIH/etc would have no choice but to follow the scientists/doctors/etc

Thoughts?

[Shooter]

Liberals would thrive financially and socially, right? Liberal side has majority of the scientists, professors, doctors, engineers, STEM people. Majority of corporations, including Tesla/Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/SpaceX/IBM/Boeing/Lockheed/etc, would all follow them because they are nothing without the STEM people, who are the brains behind the operation. Liberals on average tend to also be more educated so I bet more universities/professors would follow towards the liberal side. Even organizations like NASA/NIH/etc would have no choice but to follow the scientists/doctors/etc

Thoughts?

Far left liberals dont have any money tho, so who will buy their stuff? $80 etsy home made beanies get expensive when you work at Starbucks with an art degree.

[bladefd]

Far left liberals dont have any money tho, so who will buy their stuff? $80 etsy home made beanies get expensive when you work at Starbucks with an art degree.

So we splitting the country into 3 pieces now?? Far left, less left, right?

Talk about moving the goalposts :oldlol:

[Vino24]

I feel if you don’t know what average is then you shouldn’t decide if a country can be split

[FultzNationRISE]

Liberals would thrive financially and socially, right? Liberal side has majority of the scientists, professors, doctors, engineers, STEM people. Majority of corporations, including Tesla/Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/SpaceX/IBM/Boeing/Lockheed/etc, would all follow them because they are nothing without the STEM people, who are the brains behind the operation. Liberals on average tend to also be more educated so I bet more universities/professors would follow towards the liberal side. Even organizations like NASA/NIH/etc would have no choice but to follow the scientists/doctors/etc

Thoughts?


If liberals all pay thru the nose to squeeze into white, upscale neighborhoods as it is... theyre def not gonna want anything to do with living in a country where low income minorities make up an even higher population per square mile.

After all, who will protect them? All the police and gun toters will be on the right. Left Side America will become Liberia with white slaves.

If the country legit split, all the leftists who TALK a big diversity and tolerance game would be the first ones huddling up on the right side behind bubba and cletis for shelter. The right is less politically correct, but also less physically afraid. The left talks a big tolerance game to compensate for the fact that theyre actually terrified when they see jamaal walking down the street.

[Patrick Chewing]

Liberals would thrive financially and socially, right? Liberal side has majority of the scientists, professors, doctors, engineers, STEM people. Majority of corporations, including Tesla/Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/SpaceX/IBM/Boeing/Lockheed/etc, would all follow them because they are nothing without the STEM people, who are the brains behind the operation. Liberals on average tend to also be more educated so I bet more universities/professors would follow towards the liberal side. Even organizations like NASA/NIH/etc would have no choice but to follow the scientists/doctors/etc

Thoughts?

A majority? Where did you get this from?

[FultzNationRISE]

A majority? Where did you get this from?


The media :lol

[Hawker]

:cheers:

Sounds good.

The left will get a price of oil twice the price as the right will. I will make sure to negotiate it.

Hike up the price of agricultural goods too.

[FultzNationRISE]

:cheers:

Sounds good.

The left will get a price of oil twice the price as the right will. I will make sure to negotiate it.

Hike up the price of agricultural goods too.



:hammertime:





Of course, theyre gonna charge us a fortune for pithy insights into gender intersectionalism :( :rant

[Vino24]

:cheers:

Sounds good.

The left will get a price of oil twice the price as the right will. I will make sure to negotiate it.

Hike up the price of agricultural goods too.

Bingo. And if you think Elon is a leftest think again. He will leave your ass for mars. We win again

[Hawker]

Bingo. And if you think Elon is a leftest think again. He will leave your ass for mars. We win again

People on the right can be pro free market and pro cheapest energy as well. Would gladly have Elon over.

At least he gets "if nobody makes stuff, there is no stuff."

[Nanners]

:cheers:

Sounds good.

The left will get a price of oil twice the price as the right will. I will make sure to negotiate it.

Hike up the price of agricultural goods too.

oh yeah? well the left will charge the right $50 per ticket to see their new reboot of the godfather trilogy starring a cast consisting entirely of black trans women.

[TheMan]

We are so far split that separating the country in two is not a bad idea. The Democrats clearly have a problem with this Constitution. Let them write a new one that serves their interests then.

I give it less than five years before they come crawling back.

You can start by leaving NYC :confusedshrug:

[BigKobeFan]

We have that. It's called cities and states. Move, unless you're too poor you have to complain on a message board.

This idiot disappeared from the bolton thread quick

[Nanners]

The Democrats clearly have a problem with this Constitution. Let them write a new one that serves their interests then.

I would bet the farm that they actually try to do this in the near future.

If they are going to demolish the founding fathers statues because they were supposedly evil racist white men, then demolishing their work is the logical next step.

[TheMan]

Also, OP and fellow Trumptards can see the writing on the wall so now they start with their silly splitting the country in two talk, next thing y'all be talking about moving to some other country :lol Grow a pair, ladies :facepalm

[FultzNationRISE]

This idiot disappeared from the bolton thread quick



She has all the menstrual-markers of another jtotheizzo alt.



That’s right.



ANOTHER ONE.

[bladefd]

Bingo. And if you think Elon is a leftest think again. He will leave your ass for mars. We win again

Elon is nothing without his teams of scientists and engineers. Sure he can get labor workers, but the brains behind that are the scientists and engineers. Do you have any idea how much they recruit established engineers and scientists? Especially in the early years of Tesla/SpaceX, Elon himself was involved in interviews. They badly needed the established scientists/engineers to form their foundation. They have that foundation, but cannot afford to lose them. There is a reason why they are headquartered in a heavily Liberal state (California). The heavy tech sector is located in liberal states like California, Washington, etc.

Also keep in mind that the a majority of his customers are liberals. Conservatives prefer the massive gas guzzling SUVs while liberals spend on the electric cars. They tend to be resistant to anything green for whatever reason. Elon has Tesla with electric cars, solarcity with solar panels (Tesla owns Solarcity now) and SpaceX for rockets (Conservatives more so than liberals use the argument "why are we spending money out there when we have problems down here?")

[Hawker]

She has all the menstrual-markers of another jtotheizzo alt.



That’s right.



ANOTHER ONE.

Jtotheizzo was actually a good poster. I liked his international and foreign travel experience.

Another one that got a little too #triggeredbyTrump I guess.

[Hawker]

Elon is nothing without his teams of scientists and engineers. Sure he can get labor workers, but the brains behind that are the scientists and engineers. Do you have any idea how much they recruit established engineers and scientists? Especially in the early years of Tesla/SpaceX, Elon himself was involved in interviews. They badly needed the established scientists/engineers to form their foundation. They have that foundation, but cannot afford to lose them. There is a reason why they are headquartered in a heavily Liberal state (California). The heavy tech sector is located in liberal states like California, Washington, etc.

Also keep in mind that the a majority of his customers are liberals. Conservatives prefer the massive gas guzzling SUVs while liberals spend on the electric cars. They tend to be resistant to anything green for whatever reason. Elon has Tesla with electric cars, solarcity with solar panels (Tesla owns Solarcity now) and SpaceX for rockets (Conservatives more so than liberals use the argument "why are we spending money out there when we have problems down here?")

lol no they don't.

We're against green energy for the sake of green energy and massive government subsidies for them.

Electricity...powered by natural gas!

[FultzNationRISE]

Jtotheizzo was actually a good poster. I liked his international and foreign travel experience.

Another one that got a little too #triggeredbyTrump I guess.


He‘s a pretty weird dude tho and has a lot of alts, I could definitely see him as a greasy old creep who uses his business travels as an excuse to get dirty with pre teens in southeast asia.

He was crying about Trump on the jizzo name all the way up til the election, at which point he disappeared and began posting as Facepalm. Also uses Raymone and East River Livin.


Remember the time he screamed at me about how Senators are not Congressmen?? :lol

[bladefd]

lol no they don't.

We're against green energy for the sake of green energy and massive government subsidies for them.

Electricity...powered by natural gas!

That alone would push Elon out. He wants to power the Earth with renewable energy only. Solar power is his idea to power the world. He is opposed to fossil fuels, including natural gas

[FultzNationRISE]

That alone would push Elon out. He wants to power the Earth with renewable energy only. Solar power is his idea to power the world. He is opposed to fossil fuels, including natural gas

But TODAY most of his employees still use gasoline to get to work.

So without access to reliable energy right now, it’s gonna be pretty hard to run a Save The Planet business.

[Hawker]

That alone would push Elon out. He wants to power the Earth with renewable energy only. Solar power is his idea to power the world. He is opposed to fossil fuels, including natural gas

He's not "opposed" to natural gas.

He's using it right now and he has a lot of respect for the combustion engine and automobile because he's a reasonable guy.

He's not going to get his projects started without it.

[Nanners]

Yeah Elon is definitely known for how much he respects fossil fuels and the combustion engine :oldlol:


"Gas cars are so last-century! Passing fad. Like steam engines. They look cool in a museum."


"We're really playing a crazy game here with the atmosphere and the oceans," Musk said. "We're taking vast amounts of carbon from deep underground and putting this in the atmosphere — this is crazy. We should not do this. It's very dangerous."


"The bizarre thing is that obviously we're going to run out of oil in the long-term. There's only so much oil we can mine and burn," Musk said. "It's tautological. We must have a sustainable energy transport and infrastructure in the long term, so why run this crazy experiment where we take trillions of tons of carbon from underground and put it in the atmosphere and the oceans? This is an insane experiment. It's the dumbest experiment in human history."


“The fundamental issue with fossil fuels is that every use comes with a subsidy,” Musk said. “Every gasoline car on the road has a subsidy, and the right way to address that is with a carbon tax.”


“It is quite worrying, the future of the world,” he added. “We need to appeal to the people and educate them to sort of revolt against this and to fight the propaganda of the fossil fuel industry which is unrelenting and enormous.”


The fear, uncertainty & doubt propaganda campaign being pushed by those betting against Tesla has reached new heights. Tesla is affecting powerful vested interests. Big auto and oil companies aren’t known for their gentle behavior.


"It is not hard to imagine that many cities could become electric-only in the near future as they begin to witness the impact that ICE vehicles have on air quality"

[FultzNationRISE]

Yeah Elon is definitely known for how much he respects fossil fuels and the combustion engine :oldlol:



His sentiments are all fair, I would imagine what Hawker means by “respect for it” is that... he uses it. Because if Musk didnt respect the value or efficacy of it currently, I cant imagine he would.

Frankly I have no clue how he gets around, presumably he doesnt have an electric plane, or how he keeps his office buildings heated and cooled etc. But I think it’s a safe bet he hasnt achieved fossil fuel independence in his own life and career.

If he has, then by all means, have him send that tech my way. Ill be happy to go fully green as soon as it’s practical. But I have a feeling he’s not quite ready and able yet to supply either segment of this hypothetically divided America with enough energy to meet its demands.

It would actually be interesting to hear his thoughts on this particular topic, not that he actually would ever discuss it publicly.

[Nanners]

TBH I wouldnt be surprised at all if Elon secretly had "respect" (whatever that means) for fossil fuels and the combustion engine... but if he does hold these views they are very much secret. I dont think the fact that he uses gas powered planes can be taken as evidence for his "respect" of fossil fuels... its not exactly like there are any currently any other options for quickly traveling over a long distance. I use comcast as an internet service provider because they are the only option available to me, that doesnt mean I "respect" them... comcast can go **** themselves imo.

Ultimately, Elon is a businessman who has a huge financial interest in disrupting the fossil fuel industry... its no surprise that his statements on the topic would reflect that.

[Hawker]

TBH I wouldnt be surprised at all if Elon secretly had "respect" (whatever that means) for fossil fuels and the combustion engine... but if he does hold these views they are very much secret. I dont think the fact that he uses gas powered planes can be taken as evidence for his "respect" of fossil fuels... its not exactly like there are any currently any other options for quickly traveling over a long distance. I use comcast as an internet service provider because they are the only option available to me, that doesnt mean I "respect" them... comcast can go **** themselves imo.

Ultimately, Elon is a businessman who has a huge financial interest in disrupting the fossil fuel industry... its no surprise that his statements on the topic would reflect that.

I hear ya.

I like Elon and I meant respect for the engineering behind the cars at least. He does have an interest in disrupting the fossil fuel system but he pushed back on the COVID nonsense and the plebes (of which ISH have many) can't put the "you hate science" trope on him.

[SATAN]

He treats his workers like shit apparently. Not sure what's respectable about that.

[SATAN]

lol no they don't.

We're against green energy for the sake of green energy and massive government subsidies for them.



Irony much?

[Jasper]

Look, not everyone is perfectly R or perfectly D but I'd be willing to bet that most people would have a side that they'd prefer given a split.

So... anyways... let's just split. The dems can do their thing, and the repubs can do their thing. Our political system is a shit show and I'm just over it.

I know which side will thrive financially and socially regardless of where resources lie. It's just a cold hard fact. Deep in their hearts, everyone else knows too. Reality is a ruthless, heartless bitch. I will happily take the retards on the right with me, of which there are many, if it means I can be rid of the retards on the left. HAPPILY.
I understand both sides , and I laugh at where we are.... I have seen far more presidents than any of you.
Trump had an agenda , and that was to not unit our country like Ronald Reagan , but to divide it.
Cvd19 helped , in ways he never imagined , but the MN death was cream on the cake for him. Remember he is backed by KKK and white supremacists.
I am going to rid all aliens from our country , so he purposely divides families that have crossed the border.
The failure was his wall is only a 1/3 of the actual border .... (don't you think people that have walked 1500 miles , could not walk around the wall)
He is the biggest shyster probably this country has ever seen.
I loved it when he was backed by his coal tycoons for the 2016 election , and there sitting in the front seats , when he declares loosing emissions will
occur , because we don't have global warming and pollution.

Yep Make America Great AGAIN:banghead:

Our country has broken laws , and our government is using it to their advantage.
People backing Trump think they are rebellion to our society , they are fueling the crap that Trump has created.
Opening the country for the economy has failed...
Here is my take , if Trump would of closed the borders of our country , for 3-5 months and states would closed their borders
we might of been way ahead of the CVD19 crap....
Instead we have the highest spike in the world as we speak....
The government is supposed to protect and guide the people of this country...
Right now it looks like a free for all wrestling match on WWE.. :facepalm

I have always wished a third party would be as strong as the Republicans and Democrats....
Republicans support the rich
Democrats supposedly support the middle and poor.

Fact is they only support them selves and their soft money.
Sorry for the rant.

[SATAN]

Why be sorry? It's good to hear the perspective of older posters.

[Norcaliblunt]

Damn look at all you idiots playing right into the “right/left” paradigm. Very very sad.

[Norcaliblunt]

the plebes (of which ISH have many)

The plebes are all of you who play into the false “right/left” paradigm.

[Rocket]

I have no problem with splitting the country although the normal people would have to build a wall rather quickly to keep the batshit crazy leftist in their half. Given most of the workforce would be in the right leaning section the other side would implode rather quickly making a wall a VERY high priority.

[Derka]

LOL. You're acting like the political scene being a shit-show is new for America. Its as much a shit-show now as it was when Hamilton and Jefferson were lobbing virtual nukes at each other in competing partisan newspapers/pamphlets. Now there's just ads for boner pills and pickup trucks included with your political bullshit.

You guys fighting this left/right liberal/conservative war are just...lol

[JohnnySic]

Nice idea in theory but it wouldn't work. The liberal country would be broke and lawless, with a few heavily protected areas where the rich liberals live like overlords.

They would be clamoring to get into the conservative country. Think of how people leave California to move to Texas, Colorado, Arizona, etc, and multiply that x100.

[rufuspaul]

We're already split

Urban and rural

If we tried to create two countries, one would be pure farm land and the other would be one huge city


The Democrats have for years relied on white urban liberals and urban minorities and completely overlooked rural America. Fact is there are a lot of rural folk who lean right simply because the right have been the only ones who pay any attention to them. Hillary wrote them off as stupid rednecks and look where that got her. Had she taken the time to listen to them and address their concerns she would have seen that a lot of these people are amenable to many democratic policies. There are a lot more minorities living in rural areas than ever before too. If Hillary had jus...no actually she still would've lost because she's a biitch, but Biden might make headway.

[Jasper]

LOL. You're acting like the political scene being a shit-show is new for America. Its as much a shit-show now as it was when Hamilton and Jefferson were lobbing virtual nukes at each other in competing partisan newspapers/pamphlets. Now there's just ads for boner pills and pickup trucks included with your political bullshit.

You guys fighting this left/right liberal/conservative war are just...lol
Glad to see others looking at history of our country.

What gets me is that those red neck people some refer to think the republican party thinks of them...
They are dirt shit in the government world ... red necks have no money and will continue to never have money , but repub's
like them to vote for them LOL
Trump opened up a can of worms and know we the people have a can of beans poured over our heads looking like the clowns we are.

[highwhey]

the intolerant right

[Patrick Chewing]

the intolerant right

You can gladly live with these people for all I care:

https://i.ibb.co/zQzj1Zb/Ebv17-Ye-UYAAIQBk.jpg


Only kind of women you'll see in the Liberal Utopian Federation.

[highwhey]

You can gladly live with these people for all I care:

https://i.ibb.co/zQzj1Zb/Ebv17-Ye-UYAAIQBk.jpg


Only kind of women you'll see in the Liberal Utopian Federation.

She seems like your size of woman.

[Patrick Chewing]

She seems like your size of woman.

Judging by your appetite and hers, you'll have to fight her for the last taco.

[highwhey]

Judging by your appetite and hers, you'll have to fight her for the last taco.

Sounds like you speak from experience.

[bladefd]

He's not "opposed" to natural gas.

He's using it right now and he has a lot of respect for the combustion engine and automobile because he's a reasonable guy.

He's not going to get his projects started without it.

What nonsense in the world are you mumbling about with your keyboard?

[bladefd]

I hear ya.

I like Elon and I meant respect for the engineering behind the cars at least. He does have an interest in disrupting the fossil fuel system but he pushed back on the COVID nonsense and the plebes (of which ISH have many) can't put the "you hate science" trope on him.

What does COVID have to do with his vision on the future of energy, which does NOT include natural gas?

[bladefd]

LOL. You're acting like the political scene being a shit-show is new for America. Its as much a shit-show now as it was when Hamilton and Jefferson were lobbing virtual nukes at each other in competing partisan newspapers/pamphlets. Now there's just ads for boner pills and pickup trucks included with your political bullshit.

You guys fighting this left/right liberal/conservative war are just...lol

100% true. I am with you on this one. The whole right/left paradigm is nonsense, but if OP wants to entertain a split, I say go right ahead. I will throw down the gloves and wager on the so called "liberal" side easily

[Shogon]

I will throw down the gloves and wager on the so called "liberal" side easily

That's because you are a literal child.

[bladefd]

That's because you are a literal child.

You know when I know the other person has lost an argument?

When other party lacks a counterargument and resorts to name-calling.

You are done. Return to the shadows and be gone.

[highwhey]

You know when I know the other person has lost an argument?

When other party lacks a counterargument and resorts to name-calling.

You are done. Return to the shadows and be gone.

dang shogiun, he said "be gone thot!"

[Patrick Chewing]

Sounds like you speak from experience.

Yes, I've experienced seeing the two of you personally and I can tell you it's going to be a bloodbath for that last taco.

[highwhey]

Yes, I've experienced seeing the two of you personally and I can tell you it's going to be a bloodbath for that last taco.
I dont date big women.

That sounds something up your alley, XXL.

[Phong]

Liberals would thrive financially and socially, right? Liberal side has majority of the scientists, professors, doctors, engineers, STEM people. Majority of corporations, including Tesla/Google/Microsoft/Apple/Facebook/SpaceX/IBM/Boeing/Lockheed/etc, would all follow them because they are nothing without the STEM people, who are the brains behind the operation. Liberals on average tend to also be more educated so I bet more universities/professors would follow towards the liberal side. Even organizations like NASA/NIH/etc would have no choice but to follow the scientists/doctors/etc

Thoughts?- Engineers lean conservative.

The politics of engineers (https://www.machinedesign.com/news/article/21819513/the-politics-of-engineers)
"Engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%)."



- STEM workers lean conservative

Political Identification of STEM Workers in the US (https://scholarworks.unr.edu/handle/11714/2246)
"STEM workers are, indeed, more conservative than others—a pattern that may be rooted in the structure of their work."



- Doctors are split alongside their medical specialty.

Your Surgeon Is Probably a Republican, Your Psychiatrist Probably a Democrat (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/upshot/your-surgeon-is-probably-a-republican-your-psychiatrist-probably-a-democrat.html)

https://i.ibb.co/NrPwL7M/07up-clusterchart-1475690599155-super-Jumbo.png


On top of that, the right dominates in construction, agriculture, military and law enforcement. Shelter, food and security.. the basis of survival.

As for the corporations, they might virtue signal to the left but if they have to pick a side, they'll pick the one that will protect their money.

[DoctorP]

People looking for segregation again.

[Hawker]

What nonsense in the world are you mumbling about with your keyboard?

Whenever you get a real job, maybe you'll understand.

[TheMan]

- Engineers lean conservative.

The politics of engineers (https://www.machinedesign.com/news/article/21819513/the-politics-of-engineers)
"Engineers say they are more likely to be Republican (42.1%) or Independent (33.7%) voters, as opposed to Democrats (14.5%)."



- STEM workers lean conservative

Political Identification of STEM Workers in the US (https://scholarworks.unr.edu/handle/11714/2246)
"STEM workers are, indeed, more conservative than others—a pattern that may be rooted in the structure of their work."



- Doctors are split alongside their medical specialty.

Your Surgeon Is Probably a Republican, Your Psychiatrist Probably a Democrat (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/07/upshot/your-surgeon-is-probably-a-republican-your-psychiatrist-probably-a-democrat.html)

https://i.ibb.co/NrPwL7M/07up-clusterchart-1475690599155-super-Jumbo.png


On top of that, the right dominates in construction, agriculture, military and law enforcement. Shelter, food and security.. the basis of survival.

As for the corporations, they might virtue signal to the left but if they have to pick a side, they'll pick the one that will protect their money.

Lol, another idiot falling for the Right/Left paradigm...keep being a divisive useful idiot for the elite :cheers:

[Patrick Chewing]

People looking for segregation again.


Yes. Segregation from Liberals. They're insane.

[DoctorP]

Yes. Segregation from Liberals. They're insane.

What's a liberal to you, Chew?

[TheMan]

Yes. Segregation from Liberals. They're insane.

Every fukking 4 years the losing side starts bitching and whining about stupidly splitting the country into left/right political views sides...the OP is a known Trump supporter, really telling he's whining so early about splitting the country...he could clearly see Trump's defeat this far off and you can't blame him, Trump has proven to be an incompetant jackass.

To think that despite all the shit I talk about Trump, I considered voting for him based on the fact he is anti-abortion and he hasn't gotten us into another stupid war but holy shit, his managing (or lack of) the pandemic and his lack of leadership and refusal to at least pretend to try to unite the country these last few weeks have made me (and millions more) actively oppose his re-election.

Biden sucks but Trump is worse...way worse.

[ROCSteady]

To think that despite all the shit I talk about Trump, I considered voting for him based on the fact he is anti-abortion and he hasn't gotten us into another stupid war but holy shit, his managing (or lack of) the pandemic and his lack of leadership and refusal to at least pretend to try to unite the country these last few weeks have made me (and millions more) actively oppose his re-election.

Biden sucks but Trump is worse...way worse.

This is exactly where I'm at. It was a great night when Trump one (due to the alternative) and I was willing to give him a chance but even in 2015 I told my family that a Trump administration would scar this country psychologically with more hate and division but I had no idea how much worse it would be than I imagined.

It sucks beacuse this time, the alternative is some liver-spotted geriatric who doesn't know what day it is. All the money in this country - the resources, the education, the available platforms to be heard... and this is the best we got. I never even considered one day moving out of America but it has crossed my mind in the past month.

Trump is a disaster and although I recognize some of the good things his administration has gotten done, the net result is pretty awful considering the damage it has imposed on the general public, either intended or a result of the dumbass media.

I will say I do not want another 4 years of Trump. This whole year has shown me that the Trumps administration has been a big factor in setting us back. Whether a political tactic or just being a pure dumbass, the tweets, exaggerations, and tone deaf statements have me ready to boot this loudmouth out of office.

Trump nor Biden will be getting my presidential vote. What a farce. Americans are dumb and fall for the red-blue gang shit like a bunch of ignoramuses. Hook, Line and Sinker

[Shogon]

Trump is a disaster and although I recognize some of the good things his administration has gotten done, the net result is pretty awful considering the damage it has imposed on the general public, either intended or a result of the dumbass media.

So whether it's Trump's fault or whether it's the media's fault... it's Trump's fault? Got it. That statement is so incredibly dumb that it physically pains me.

[DoctorP]

So whether it's Trump's fault or whether it's the media's fault... it's Trump's fault? Got it. That statement is so incredibly dumb that it physically pains me.

Curtains going down on your hero, Chew. Maybe Trump will start a stand-up comedy tour after he loses.

[Shogon]

Curtains going down on your hero, Chew. Maybe Trump will start a stand-up comedy tour after he loses.

What the actual **** are you talking about?

[Patrick Chewing]

What the actual **** are you talking about?

He's bipolar.

[DoctorP]

What the actual **** are you talking about?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html

[DoctorP]

What the actual **** are you talking about?

love Burn AFter Reading. Such a good movie!

[warriorfan]

:roll:

[DoctorP]

He's bipolar.

you're an old fart

[FultzNationRISE]

This is exactly where I'm at. It was a great night when Trump one (due to the alternative) and I was willing to give him a chance but even in 2015 I told my family that a Trump administration would scar this country psychologically with more hate and division but I had no idea how much worse it would be than I imagined.

It sucks beacuse this time, the alternative is some liver-spotted geriatric who doesn't know what day it is. All the money in this country - the resources, the education, the available platforms to be heard... and this is the best we got. I never even considered one day moving out of America but it has crossed my mind in the past month.

Trump is a disaster and although I recognize some of the good things his administration has gotten done, the net result is pretty awful considering the damage it has imposed on the general public, either intended or a result of the dumbass media.

I will say I do not want another 4 years of Trump. This whole year has shown me that the Trumps administration has been a big factor in setting us back. Whether a political tactic or just being a pure dumbass, the tweets, exaggerations, and tone deaf statements have me ready to boot this loudmouth out of office.

Trump nor Biden will be getting my presidential vote. What a farce. Americans are dumb and fall for the red-blue gang shit like a bunch of ignoramuses. Hook, Line and Sinker


Heres the thing.

Are “tweets and demeanor” the only thing most people really understand?

Yes.

So, will that influence their perceptions and proclivities far more than concrete policy ideas and philosophy, particularly complicated policy concepts where theres no clear cut right or wrong, good or bad?

Absolutely.

People know which words are okay for mr president to use and which words are bad words that teacher told us not to say. People dont know whether the federal reserve chairman nominated by the President has a compatible philosophy for current market conditions. They dont know if an executive order is balanced appropriately with the 10th amendment. How many amendments can the typical person name? Two?

If you have no context for judging a president on important things, of course it comes down to “I dont like the tone of voice he used when he said that speech.” Thats the level the masses are on and theyve always been on.

If you can speak in detail about the policy reasons you believe someone is a bad fit for president, and why someone else would be preferable.. thats fine.

If youre resorting to “Hes a meanie and I dont like his words, his twitterings arent presidential, hes too divisive!!!!”

It probably just means you dont understand any of the more important stuff.

And the fact that millions of people are in the same boat, is a far bigger problem to the country than any one man in the White House could present.


But thats the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

[FKAri]

So on one side you have America and the other you have....OP and Chapo Trap House?

[Proctor]

Curtains going down on your hero, Chew. Maybe Trump will start a stand-up comedy tour after he loses.

:roll::roll::roll:

[DoctorP]

So on one side you have America and the other you have....OP and Chapo Trap House?

:lol

[Gabe Ball]

Heres the thing.

Are “tweets and demeanor” the only thing most people really understand?

Yes.

So, will that influence their perceptions and proclivities far more than concrete policy ideas and philosophy, particularly complicated policy concepts where theres no clear cut right or wrong, good or bad?

Absolutely.

People know which words are okay for mr president to use and which words are bad words that teacher told us not to say. People dont know whether the federal reserve chairman nominated by the President has a compatible philosophy for current market conditions. They dont know if an executive order is balanced appropriately with the 10th amendment. How many amendments can the typical person name? Two?

If you have no context for judging a president on important things, of course it comes down to “I dont like the tone of voice he used when he said that speech.” Thats the level the masses are on and theyve always been on.

If you can speak in detail about the policy reasons you believe someone is a bad fit for president, and why someone else would be preferable.. thats fine.

If youre resorting to “Hes a meanie and I dont like his words, his twitterings arent presidential, hes too divisive!!!!”

It probably just means you dont understand any of the more important stuff.

And the fact that millions of people are in the same boat, is a far bigger problem to the country than any one man in the White House could present.


But thats the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.


I want to believe that's the case but I'm not sure since I don't really know much about what Trump has done besides the tax cut for business

[Hawker]

I want to believe that's the case but I'm not sure since I don't really know much about what Trump has done besides the tax cut for business

Rolled back heaps of regulations. Assigned great judges.

And just in general doesn't fold like the standard milquetoast republican.

Would have never got a tax cut with Jeb Bush or John Kasich. Would have never gotten Gorsuch or Kavanaugh in with those guys. They would've folded. And that's what the democrats in the end want. A republican that folds. A republican that doesn't fold, as you can tell in this thread, causes "division" and "hate" and "tears this country apart." :sleeping

[Hawker]

Heres the thing.

Are “tweets and demeanor” the only thing most people really understand?

Yes.

So, will that influence their perceptions and proclivities far more than concrete policy ideas and philosophy, particularly complicated policy concepts where theres no clear cut right or wrong, good or bad?

Absolutely.

People know which words are okay for mr president to use and which words are bad words that teacher told us not to say. People dont know whether the federal reserve chairman nominated by the President has a compatible philosophy for current market conditions. They dont know if an executive order is balanced appropriately with the 10th amendment. How many amendments can the typical person name? Two?

If you have no context for judging a president on important things, of course it comes down to “I dont like the tone of voice he used when he said that speech.” Thats the level the masses are on and theyve always been on.

If you can speak in detail about the policy reasons you believe someone is a bad fit for president, and why someone else would be preferable.. thats fine.

If youre resorting to “Hes a meanie and I dont like his words, his twitterings arent presidential, hes too divisive!!!!”

It probably just means you dont understand any of the more important stuff.

And the fact that millions of people are in the same boat, is a far bigger problem to the country than any one man in the White House could present.


But thats the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

Libs are out rioting and calling to defund the police yet somehow Trump is the source of drama. It's insane how brainwashed people get by the MSM. They've done a good job of somehow pinning the failures of democrat led cities on Trump.

[ROCSteady]

So whether it's Trump's fault or whether it's the media's fault... it's Trump's fault? Got it. That statement is so incredibly dumb that it physically pains me.

Well, that statement is less an indictment of me and what I said than it is the general public.

What I was saying is that although Trump gives enough bait to the obsessive "haters" where I can say believe the guy is a shit stain on the country but that is also compounded with the constant, incessant half-truths and strategic brainwashing ala MSNBC, CNN, progressive Twitter etc etc the list goes on and on.

My point was that even if I have support Trump on some issues and he may get a lot of nonsense hurled his direction, right or wrong if he ends up being taken out of office, whether it be for reasons of his own undoing or lies, mistruths and a funded witch hunt, it will be worth it just so we can try to turn a new page as a nation.

[Axe]

So whether it's Trump's fault or whether it's the media's fault... it's Trump's fault? Got it. That statement is so incredibly dumb that it physically pains me.
You think only trump suffers the same scenario? :lol

[coin24]

Trump should build the wall down the centre of America, left on one side, right the other.
Let's see who flourishes. :lol