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HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 02:23 PM
https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/07/02/nba-coaches-anonymously-selected-all-defensive-first-team-anthony-davis-is-not-there/

Coaches voted for 1st team all defense 2020: Ben Simmons, Marcus Smart, Kawhi Leonard, Giannis, Gobert

They got it right, they need to make coaches select the all nba lists every year.

SouBeachTalents
07-10-2020, 02:25 PM
AD should've made it over Kawhi

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 02:38 PM
AD should've made it over Kawhi

AD has dwight, Lebron covering his ass.

Kawhi has the shithead Shamet logging top 5 minutes and Lou Williams logging top 5 minutes. Paul George is good but he got injured two different times this year.

I would say Kawhi is doing more with less.

Horatio33
07-10-2020, 02:40 PM
AD has dwight, Lebron covering his ass.

Kawhi has the shithead Shamet logging top 5 minutes and Lou Williams logging top 5 minutes. Paul George is good but he got injured two different times this year.

I would say Kawhi is doing more with less.

We get it, you are a Kawhi Stan.

Phoenix
07-10-2020, 03:03 PM
The media spent a good portion of the year saying AD could be the DPOY. Now he's not even first team defense? Ok.

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 03:06 PM
We get it, you are a Kawhi Stan.

These are votes by coaches, not me.

Oh and just a FYI: two of these players (Simmons and Giannis) were on teams that Kawhi beat in the 2019 playoffs, ya know when he scored 732 points on 62% TS?

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 03:08 PM
The media spent a good portion of the year saying AD could be the DPOY. Now he's not even first team defense? Ok.

Shows how full of crap the media is. These are results that are voted by strictly just coaches.

KD7
07-10-2020, 03:12 PM
No LeBron despite him anchoring the 2nd best defense in the league whilst molding guys like Caruso and McGee into elite defenders and single handedly reviving Dwight Howards career?

SMFH :facepalm

Btw Kawhi is the most overrated defender in the NBA, he hasn't been top tier on that end since 2016

lol @ people saying AD, don't be fooled by those block numbers, he's overrated as well

Pelicans where dogshit defensively literally every single year when has he ever anchored an elite defense prior to playing next to the GOAT?

Whoah10115
07-10-2020, 03:15 PM
Above post is stupid.

And Kawhi has missed way too many games too many games. Coaches can be dumb too.

Other than that, lovely list. A real list.

MrFonzworth
07-10-2020, 03:29 PM
Beverley, Bledsoe, Tucker, Bam and AD were the 2nd team.

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 03:49 PM
No LeBron despite him anchoring the 2nd best defense in the league whilst molding guys like Caruso and McGee into elite defenders and single handedly reviving Dwight Howards career?

SMFH :facepalm

Btw Kawhi is the most overrated defender in the NBA, he hasn't been top tier on that end since 2016

lol @ people saying AD, don't be fooled by those block numbers, he's overrated as well

Pelicans where dogshit defensively literally every single year when has he ever anchored an elite defense prior to playing next to the GOAT?

Clippers were 21st ranked defense in 2019
Clippers are now 5th ranked defense in 2020

So much for Kawhi not playing defense anymore. Every coach is still scared shitless of Kawhi's defense and that's why they voted him 1st team all defense.

Smoke117
07-10-2020, 05:58 PM
Clippers were 21st ranked defense in 2019
Clippers are now 5th ranked defense in 2020

So much for Kawhi not playing defense anymore. Every coach is still scared shitless of Kawhi's defense and that's why they voted him 1st team all defense.

Kawhi wasn't even close to what he used to be on the Spurs defensively this season. Again, stop acting like he carried the defense when they had plenty of impact players on that end this season. Besides Williams and Shamet everyone who gets significant minutes is at the very LEAST solid.

72-10
07-10-2020, 06:04 PM
Wait, I thought the season's in play?

Jasper
07-10-2020, 06:36 PM
AD should've made it over Kawhi

I believe you are correct , rest of list is a.o.k.

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 06:44 PM
Kawhi wasn't even close to what he used to be on the Spurs defensively this season. Again, stop acting like he carried the defense when they had plenty of impact players on that end this season. Besides Williams and Shamet everyone who gets significant minutes is at the very LEAST solid.

Yes but Kawhi is the clear cut best defensive player on the team, which makes him the anchor of a top 5 defense.

Lou, shamet are in top 5 for minutes played, so you can't just overlook them.

Paul George is good but gets injured every 10 games

Harrell was good at times but lazy at times, inconsistent

Beverly is good but a midget at the end of the day

Whoah10115
07-10-2020, 08:23 PM
Gets injured every 10 games, sits every 10 games...

kawhileonard2
07-10-2020, 08:25 PM
https://fadeawayworld.net/2020/07/02/nba-coaches-anonymously-selected-all-defensive-first-team-anthony-davis-is-not-there/

Coaches voted for 1st team all defense 2020: Ben Simmons, Marcus Smart, Kawhi Leonard, Giannis, Gobert

They got it right, they need to make coaches select the all nba lists every year.

Good list! Surprised AD didn't get it over Gobert.

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 08:48 PM
Gets injured every 10 games, sits every 10 games...

If you get injured though, that takes you out of your flow and you lose your defense legs. Kawhi paces himself and remains elite every time he plays.

Axe
07-10-2020, 08:55 PM
If you get injured though, that takes you out of your flow and you lose your defense legs. Kawhi paces himself and remains elite every time he plays.
The rest only helps him to achieve that. Otherwise...

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 09:20 PM
The rest only helps him to achieve that. Otherwise...

2002 Shaq took time off as well. Kawhi is still going to play about 58 games out of 73 that's not bad. Also most teams he sat out against are trash teams.

oldtimer28
07-10-2020, 09:35 PM
The media spent a good portion of the year saying AD could be the DPOY. Now he's not even first team defense? Ok.

This

Shooter
07-10-2020, 10:38 PM
If you get injured though, that takes you out of your flow and you lose your defense legs. Kawhi paces himself and remains elite every time he plays.

Kawhi's deteriorating playoff DBPM
2016 = 4.4
2017 = 3.7
2019 = 2.4

LeBron's DBPM
2018 = 2.4

:lol

Damn

SATAN
07-10-2020, 11:08 PM
A year when LeBron barely even tried on defense at all he was as good as elite defender Kawhi Leonard? Interesting.

JohnMax
07-10-2020, 11:08 PM
No LeBron despite him anchoring the 2nd best defense in the league whilst molding guys like Caruso and McGee into elite defenders and single handedly reviving Dwight Howards career?

SMFH :facepalm

Btw Kawhi is the most overrated defender in the NBA, he hasn't been top tier on that end since 2016

lol @ people saying AD, don't be fooled by those block numbers, he's overrated as well

Pelicans where dogshit defensively literally every single year when has he ever anchored an elite defense prior to playing next to the GOAT?

He makes a good point. Lebron is the common denominator on all the teams he's been on having good defenses.

HBK_Kliq_2
07-10-2020, 11:18 PM
Kawhi's deteriorating playoff DBPM
2016 = 4.4
2017 = 3.7
2019 = 2.4

LeBron's DBPM
2018 = 2.4

:lol

Damn


https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/dbpm_career_p.html

Kawhi still has a higher career playoff DBPM

2.74 for Kawhi
2.51 for LeBron

Clippers Kawhi has also been a nightmare on defense so far.

light
07-10-2020, 11:42 PM
This doesnt matter.

It's unofficial. The media results will be completely different.

Whoah10115
07-11-2020, 09:51 AM
He makes a good point. Lebron is the common denominator on all the teams he's been on having good defenses.

lol

tpols
07-11-2020, 10:35 AM
He makes a good point. Lebron is the common denominator on all the teams he's been on having good defenses.

2nd cleveland team was bad on defense.

miami was a top 5 defense before the big 3 came together.

kawhileonard2
07-11-2020, 10:25 PM
A year when LeBron barely even tried on defense at all he was as good as elite defender Kawhi Leonard? Interesting.

Yeah he was never as good as Kawhi on that end of the floor.

Axe
07-12-2020, 12:00 AM
2002 Shaq took time off as well. Kawhi is still going to play about 58 games out of 73 that's not bad. Also most teams he sat out against are trash teams.
Imagine getting paid to sit out for 20% of the regular season games...

HBK_Kliq_2
07-12-2020, 01:23 AM
Imagine getting paid to sit out for 20% of the regular season games...

Imaging winning a playoff series averaging 34PPG on 53% FG with seven teammates shooting worse then 45% FG. All while playing against 3 all-stars and a 21PPG player on 76ers. Guys like that are allowed to take off 14 games a year like Kawhi will be doing with clippers 59/73 games played.