Spurs huge comeback against the Mavs (2003)

[StrongLurk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO4caOwS6jI

Peep ROOKIE Manu pulling a Shammgod move at 45 seconds.

It's crazy how the spread offense/three point shot didn't catch on earlier in the NBA. So many times when I see big comebacks from the late 90s or early 2000's, it's one team just catching fire from three. Also, legit 3 and D players were SO critical in the 90s and early 2000s.

I mean, when a team hits 6 or 7 threes in a quarter when scorers are routinely below 100, the amount of value those shots added is insane.

I can't even imagine the destruction that a team like the 2017 Warriors would cause in those eras lol.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.

[SouBeachTalents]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.
I could've sworn someone else missed the Finals last year too

[StrongLurk]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.

Couldn't help but derail the thread and insert Kawhi could you? You and 3Ball have the same "syndrome". I'm sure there is a name for it. Maybe "obsession" will work?

[RRR3]

Smack slurp Kawhi smack slurp
:facepalm

[Horatio33]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.

You do know Duncan had a 40 point game and a 34/24/6 with 6 blocks game in that series?

[Doranku]

Dallas blew a 29 point lead against the Lakers that season too. Can't believe they let it happen again in the playoffs.

[Horatio33]

Tim Duncan 34 points, 24 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 blocks

https://youtu.be/e9WkNo3J3Ic

[Doranku]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.

I'm a Kawhi fan, but he will never reach the level that Duncan was playing at in 2003.

[fsvr54]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.

Klay is not a top 100 player ever

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I could've sworn someone else missed the Finals last year too

Durant missed it but he's irrevalant because LeBron never beat Durant Warriors either. Kawhi played the same team in 2019 as LeBron beat in 2016.

Duncan played Raef Lafrenz hahahah.

A top 15 GOAT Dirk missed half the series.

Nash/Finley/Axel < Curry/Dray/Iggy

Klay missing 1 and a half games
Dirk missing 3 games

Kawhi clearly had it tougher.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

You do know Duncan had a 40 point game and a 34/24/6 with 6 blocks game in that series?

Raef/Finley/Nash/Axel is the worst defensive core in NBA history. Dirk was a pretty good defender when he was young, once he went down the mavs were a laughable defense. Have you seen Nash or Finley play defense?

Kawhi beat the self proclaimed greatest defensive player of all time in Draymond Green and the defensive anchor of a 73 win team

[SouBeachTalents]

Kawhi clearly had it tougher.
Overall competition wise I'd agree, although Duncan did take out the Shaq/Kobe Lakers

But Kawhi's supporting cast > '03 Duncan's

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I'm a Kawhi fan, but he will never reach the level that Duncan was playing at in 2003.

He already did in 2019 playoffs. Duncan beat a 1 man team in nets, Dirk for half the series. Besides Lakers it was an easy path. Kawhi had to beat 4 MVPS in Curry/Giannis and the super team of Simmons/Butler/Harris/Embiid


Klay is not a top 100 player ever

where would you rank him? I was being nice to the guy, he's probably more top 150 range.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Overall competition wise I'd agree, although Duncan did take out the Shaq/Kobe Lakers

But Kawhi's supporting cast > '03 Duncan's

Which series was Duncan's biggest carry job? Was it comparable to 34 PPG 53% FG with 7 teammates at worse then 45% FG like Kawhi in the 76ers series?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Tim Duncan 34 points, 24 rebounds, 6 assists, 6 blocks

https://youtu.be/e9WkNo3J3Ic

Can you really say it was that big of a carry job if you can't even average 25PPG for the entire playoff run? I know it was a slow pace and defense era and all but Shaq was in that same era and he averaged about 29PPG for 3 straight titles. Duncan was never the 'carry' type. He never even averaged 20PPG one time in his career past 30 years old.

[SouBeachTalents]

Which series was Duncan's biggest carry job? Was it comparable to 34 PPG 53% FG with 7 teammates at worse then 45% FG like Kawhi in the 76ers series?
The whole playoff run was, Duncan led the Spurs in points, rebounds and assists every series, and never had a teammate average more than 16 ppg in a series that entire playoff run

[HBK_Kliq_2]

The whole playoff run was, Duncan led the Spurs in points, rebounds and assists every series, and never had a teammate average more than 16 ppg in a series that entire playoff run

Duncan played more minutes then Kawhi and still scored 139 less total points. So it was definitely more of a carry job by Kawhi from a scoring standpoint. Watch the OP's video at 3:00 mins in Duncan scores "Tim Duncan's first field goal in 27 minutes" hahaha imagine if Kawhi went 27 minutes without scoring in game 7 vs 76ers

Kawhi also led the playoffs in total offensive rebounds and total steals. Duncan is probably the slight better defender with his size and all but Kawhi locked up Butler, Giannis and holds his own on that end as well. Overall Kawhi is the better player because offensive gap is superior to the defensive gap.

[Carbine]

hahaha

[StrongLurk]

It would be nice if everyone just stopped responding to spammers like 3ball and HBK. Nothing would shut them up quicker than nobody responding to their posts.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

hahaha

Is it really laughable to say Kawhi is a better player then Duncan? Duncan has never showed he's capable 36 game stretches of 30PPG on 50/40/90 splits. Should of stuck to swimming, you actually think Duncan is even on Kawhi's tier as an offensive player you are out of your mind. One great scoring year in 2003 and never scored like that again, even then he didn't average 25PPG.

[Carbine]

I guess you're right man!

[HBK_Kliq_2]

I guess you're right man!

11.6 GmSc gap for Duncan in 2nd round Lakers series

14.6 GmSc gap for Duncan in west finals mavs series

12.2 GmSc gap for Duncan in finals nets series

That's Duncan's GmSc gap to the next best on his team each series. Kawhi's GmSc gap in the 76ers series was 12.8 which was a bigger carry job then Duncan's 2nd round or finals. The only time Duncan's stats became exaggerated was vs Mavs, I wonder why? Playing against the Nash/Axel/Finley/Raef magical defensive core lol.

2003 Lakers were not the same team either, Phil Jackson even wrote a book about how embarrassing their team chemistry is. Nets were a 1 man team. Mavs without Dirk were no longer a title contender and a defensive embarrassment. So Duncan had weak help but he also had weak competition.

Kawhi had to beat 4 MVPS in Curry/Giannis and the Simmons/Butler/Harris/Embiid superteam core.

[ShawkFactory]

People give Kawhi shit for a top 100 player ever in Klay missing a game and a quarter in 2019 finals.

How about a top 15 player ever in Dirk missing three entire games which was 50% of the series. Dirk owned Duncan with prime Tony/Manu in 2006. Would Dirk have owned Duncan with pre prime Tony/Manu? High possibility yes.
When you say he owned Duncan, are you referring to that series that went 7 games? And Duncan went 41/15 in the 7th? That series?