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RRR3
07-14-2020, 04:18 PM
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/totalwar-ar/images/e/e2/Salvador_Allende.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170924202306


Reading about this guy, and he sounds like a Chilean version of Bernie Sanders :applause: Unfortunately, Nixon and the CIA were so petrified of him helping poor people that they backed a fascist coup against him.


Some of Allende's notable achievements:

*As a senator, he helped set up the first Universal Healthcare system in the Americas. Healthcare is a human right, and Allende recognized this.
*Provided 55,000 volunteers to teach reading and writing in southern Chile
*Gave 3,000 scholarships to indigenous Mapuche children
*Unveiled a plan to launch 120,000 residential buildings
*Gave all part time workers social security
*Amnestied political prisoners from past regimes
*Free school meals
*Increased social security payments
*Free food was distributed to the needy by the state
*Raised the minimum taxable income level, which meant 35% of the previous years taxpayers no longer had to pay taxes. This was a huge boon to the working class.
*Significantly increased the minimum wage for blue collar workers, and white collar workers as well.
*An average of 52,000 houses were built each year during his presidency.
*Fought to combat illiteracy with social programs. His programs helped raise enrollment at all levels of education.
*Massively increased educational, housing and food assistance.
*Encouraged doctors to serve in poorer districts, and built various hospitals and health clinics that were open longer and more accessible to the working class.
*Lowered the voting age to 18 and also eliminated the literacy requirement for voting.
*Extended maternity leave from 6 to 12 weeks, and established the Women's Secretariat to combat issues that affected Chilean women.
*Made Universities tuition free, which was a massive success. Educating the country was one of his greatest accomplishments, as University enrollment increased an astounding 89% during his presidency. In fact, enrollment reached record levels under Allende, and he had already decreased the nation's illiteracy rate from 12.0% to 10.8% by 1972. Before Allende, only 91% of children between the ages of 6 and 14 were in school. During his presidency, this percentage rose to 99%.
*Redistributed the wealth which led to wage and salary earners going from 51.6% of the national income to 65%.
*The National Supplementary Food Program was expanded to serve all primary school students and pregnant women.


Honestly, there are a lot more I could list, but I think you guys get the point, and I'm getting tired of writing this tbh. This man was a bonafide hero, and he was killed by the U.S. in order to install the evil fascist Pinochet. One of the countless black marks on America's sordid history.

Patrick Chewing
07-14-2020, 04:23 PM
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/totalwar-ar/images/e/e2/Salvador_Allende.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20170924202306


Reading about this guy, and he sounds like a Chilean version of Bernie Sanders :applause: Unfortunately, Nixon and the CIA were so petrified of him helping poor people that they backed a fascist coup against him.


Some of Allende's notable achievements:

*As a senator, he helped set up the first Universal Healthcare system in the Americas. Healthcare is a human right, and Allende recognized this.
*Provided 55,000 volunteers to teach reading and writing in southern Chile
*Gave 3,000 scholarships to indigenous Mapuche children
*Unveiled a plan to launch 120,000 residential buildings
*Gave all part time workers social security
*Amnestied political prisoners from past regimes
*Free school meals
*Increased social security payments
*Free food was distributed to the needy by the state
*Raised the minimum taxable income level, which meant 35% of the previous years taxpayers no longer had to pay taxes. This was a huge boon to the working class.
*Significantly increased the minimum wage for blue collar workers, and white collar workers as well.
*An average of 52,000 houses were built each year during his presidency.
*Fought to combat illiteracy with social programs. His programs helped raise enrollment at all levels of education.
*Massively increased educational, housing and food assistance.
*Encouraged doctors to serve in poorer districts, and built various hospitals and health clinics that were open longer and more accessible to the working class.
*Lowered the voting age to 18 and also eliminated the literacy requirement for voting.
*Extended maternity leave from 6 to 12 weeks, and established the Women's Secretariat to combat issues that affected Chilean women.
*Made Universities tuition free, which was a massive success. Educating the country was one of his greatest accomplishments, as University enrollment increased an astounding 89% during his presidency. In fact, enrollment reached record levels under Allende, and he had already decreased the nation's illiteracy rate from 12.0% to 10.8% by 1972. Before Allende, only 91% of children between the ages of 6 and 14 were in school. During his presidency, this percentage rose to 99%.
*Redistributed the wealth which led to wage and salary earners going from 51.6% of the national income to 65%.
*The National Supplementary Food Program was expanded to serve all primary school students and pregnant women.


Honestly, there are a lot more I could list, but I think you guys get the point, and I'm getting tired of writing this tbh. This man was a bonafide hero, and he was killed by the U.S. in order to install the evil fascist Pinochet. One of the countless black marks on America's sordid history.



Then stop. Nobody wants to be a Commie.

RRR3
07-14-2020, 04:30 PM
Then stop. Nobody wants to be a Commie.
You do realize he wasn’t a communist right? Read the OP. Everything I listed that he did was heroic. There are maybe 12 politicians in Washington who are anywhere near as heroic as Allende.

RRR3
07-14-2020, 04:45 PM
The fascism fam avoiding this thread like the plague.

Rooster
07-14-2020, 04:50 PM
The economic markers were atrocious in his short term. If the other brother from Africa manage to double his country debt ( contradicting his mantra - Debt is neo-colonialism, in which colonisers transformed themselves into “technical assistance”. We should say “technical assassins”. , this amigo got cockblocked by us (World Bank) on any loans that virtually collapsed Chile economy ,

TheMan
07-14-2020, 04:52 PM
The fascism fam avoiding this thread like the plague.

First learned of the man from the 90s film House of Spirits adapted from a book written by his daughter, Isabel Allende, with the same name. Film starred Jeremy Irons, Winnona Ryder and Antonio Banderas...heard great things about Allende, unfortunately the US backed Chile's extreme reactionary elements to overthrow him and install that murderous POS Pinochet.

KD7
07-14-2020, 05:15 PM
He was cool ....... for a Marxist

RRR3
07-14-2020, 05:37 PM
First learned of the man from the 90s film House of Spirits adapted from a book written by his daughter, Isabel Allende, with the same name. Film starred Jeremy Irons, Winnona Ryder and Antonio Banderas...heard great things about Allende, unfortunately the US backed Chile's extreme reactionary elements to overthrow him and install that murderous POS Pinochet.
I might check that film out. Thanks.

Long Duck Dong
07-14-2020, 05:42 PM
Took a look at Chile's GDP numbers during his brief reign. The economy started tanking almost as soon as he entered power and the government started taking over a lot of industries. And when he left the economy began to soar. Funny you mention Bernie...

Lakers Legend#32
07-14-2020, 05:44 PM
Viva Allende. Yankee Go Home. F#ck Trump.

RRR3
07-14-2020, 05:45 PM
Took a look at Chile's GDP numbers during his brief reign. The economy started tanking almost as soon as he entered power and the government started taking over a lot of industries. And when he left the economy began to soar. Funny you mention Bernie...
Imagine stanning Pinochet. You’re an actual fascist.

Long Duck Dong
07-14-2020, 05:59 PM
Viva Allende. Yankee Go Home. F#ck Trump.

Hold up. I thought you were a "Go woke or Go Broke" kinda guy. Viva a racist, antisemite, and eugenicist? That's not very woke my friend. This guy actually thought homosexuality could be "cured" by sewing pieces of a straight male's testicles inside the inner wall of gay men's stomachs. :lol Obviously they didn't know what we know now back then, but "Go woke or go Broke" amirite?

tpols
07-14-2020, 06:03 PM
Took a look at Chile's GDP numbers during his brief reign. The economy started tanking almost as soon as he entered power and the government started taking over a lot of industries. And when he left the economy began to soar. Funny you mention Bernie...

you'd have to be naive to not realize the GDP only soared because after the CIA knocked him out, the USA allowed them to internationally trade again.

the funniest thing is that they epstein'ed him.

"suicide".

RRR3
07-14-2020, 06:04 PM
Hold up. I thought you were a "Go woke or Go Broke" kinda guy. Viva a racist, antisemite, and eugenicist? That's not very woke my friend. This guy actually thought homosexuality could be "cured" by sewing pieces of a straight male's testicles inside the inner wall of gay men's stomachs. :lol Obviously they didn't know what we know now back then, but "Go woke or go Broke" amirite?
Get out of my thread with your CIA propaganda, you fascist pig.

TheMan
07-14-2020, 06:25 PM
Get out of my thread with your CIA propaganda, you fascist pig.
:oldlol:

TheMan
07-14-2020, 06:31 PM
I might check that film out. Thanks.
https://ww5.fmovie.sc/online/the-house-of-the-spirits-1993/watching.html/?ep=4

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 06:35 PM
Im 100% sure that the governments in South America where the ones who proposed operation condor and actually got USA to agree with it last minute

So blaming it on CIA is really silly. It seems like half his continent hated the guy

RRR3
07-14-2020, 06:40 PM
Im 100% sure that the governments in South America where the ones who proposed operation condor and actually got USA to agree with it last minute

So blaming it on CIA is really silly. It seems like half his continent hated the guy
Sure, chief. The USA totally doesn’t have a history of deposing democratically elected leaders and installing fascists. It was all someone else’s fault and the poor innocent USA just got roped into it.

TheMan
07-14-2020, 06:45 PM
Im 100% sure that the governments in South America where the ones who proposed operation condor and actually got USA to agree with it last minute

So blaming it on CIA is really silly. It seems like half his continent hated the guy

Those governments were almost to a man, run by the elites of each country (almost identical to today), of course they are gonna oppose a government that puts the people ahead of the elites.

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 07:13 PM
Sure, chief. The USA totally doesn’t have a history of deposing democratically elected leaders and installing fascists. It was all someone else’s fault and the poor innocent USA just got roped into it.

There’s a huge difference between being another cog in the system and being the actual mastermind behind the operation

You would think someone who’s college educated would know

RRR3
07-14-2020, 08:19 PM
There’s a huge difference between being another cog in the system and being the actual mastermind behind the operation

You would think someone who’s college educated would know
The USA is generally the mastermind between toppling left wing governments in Latin America...

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 08:23 PM
The USA is generally the mastermind between toppling left wing governments in Latin America...

Ok?

Operation Condor wasn't one.

RRR3
07-14-2020, 09:28 PM
Ok?

Operation Condor wasn't one.
You think Allende gets overthrown without American involvement? Okay bro.

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 09:42 PM
You think Allende gets overthrown without American involvement? Okay bro.

You're grasping straws lol, when did I ever even imply that?

Are all commies did dense?

RRR3
07-14-2020, 09:48 PM
You're grasping straws lol, when did I ever even imply that?

Are all commies did dense?
So what exactly was your point? Seems like you're just grasping at straws because you couldn't think of anything that made the US look good in this situation.

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 09:54 PM
"USA bad omg they destroyed a socialist country!"

>literally points out the most of south america wanted him gone and got the US to help them

"omg whats your point US destroy commies!"

....

Long Duck Dong
07-14-2020, 09:55 PM
So what exactly was your point? Seems like you're just grasping at straws because you couldn't think of anything that made the US look good in this situation.

Allende's comrades in the USSR collapsed. Venezuela and Cuba are shitholes. Chile is thriving as a capitalist society. The US is still the most free and wealthiest nation on Earth. If that wasn't the case someone like you couldn't stay fat and happy as a nonworking adult in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic. I'd say the US looks pretty damn good in any situation

RRR3
07-14-2020, 09:59 PM
"USA bad omg they destroyed a socialist country!"

>literally points out the most of south america wanted him gone and got the US to help them

"omg whats your point US destroy commies!"

....
A bunch of dictators wanted him gone because he was helping poor people, and the U.S. sided with the dictators. I'm sure you thought you were making a good point here, but you ended up defending fascism instead. Typical neoliberal. No wonder you voted for Biden.

Rooster
07-14-2020, 10:00 PM
So what exactly was your point? Seems like you're just grasping at straws because you couldn't think of anything that made the US look good in this situation.


Inflation was high from 30% to 600 % in his short term . Allende was trying to fund his social program by money creation while manipulating the prices of goods and merchandise. The copper price drop to 25% in 1971, his gimmick became unsustainable as Chile GDP went down the drain.

RRR3
07-14-2020, 10:02 PM
Allende's comrades in the USSR collapsed. Venezuela and Cuba are shitholes. Chile is thriving as a capitalist society. The US is still the most free and wealthiest nation on Earth. If that wasn't the case someone like you couldn't stay fat and happy as a nonworking adult in the middle of an unprecedented pandemic. I'd say the US looks pretty damn good in any situation
*Venezuela is being actively destabilized by your gay lover Trump
*Cuba is not a shithole, they have universal healthcare and universities unlike some countries I know of.
*Just :roll: at the "most free country in the world" giving its voters the "choice" between two senile, racist, corrupt, sexist, racist corporate puppets. You have been seduced by an illusion of freedom.

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 10:03 PM
A bunch of dictators wanted him gone because he was helping poor people, and the U.S. sided with the dictators. I'm sure you thought you were making a good point here, but you ended up defending fascism instead. Typical neoliberal. No wonder you voted for Biden.

"yes people who disagree with me are the devil and dont care about people"

expected

CelticBaller
07-14-2020, 10:05 PM
As a man of caribbean descent

Cuba is a shithole, go talk to an actual Cuban before you spew your communist nonsense

Oh and Venezuela is another shithole that sunk due to it's socialist policies. This is an actual economic example used in many universities lol

tpols
07-14-2020, 10:35 PM
As a man of caribbean descent

Cuba is a shithole, go talk to an actual Cuban before you spew your communist nonsense

Oh and Venezuela is another shithole that sunk due to it's socialist policies. This is an actual economic example used in many universities lol

both of those places were shitholes long before communism amigo.

RRR3
07-15-2020, 09:31 AM
both of those places were shitholes long before communism amigo.
They never want to have this discussion. Absolute cowards.

CelticBaller
07-15-2020, 09:37 AM
Whites showing their true color(or lack of) ^

Long Duck Dong
07-15-2020, 09:49 AM
both of those places were shitholes long before communism amigo.

Show me the mass emigration by Venezuelans prior to communism. Show me Cubans risking their lives to flee their nation prior to communism. I'll wait.

Long Duck Dong
07-15-2020, 09:53 AM
They never want to have this discussion. Absolute cowards.

I think a few days in a bread line will have you running back to Mommy and Daddy in tears while screaming, "God Bless Capitalism!!!"

RRR3
07-15-2020, 09:55 AM
Show me the mass emigration by Venezuelans prior to communism. Show me Cubans risking their lives to flee their nation prior to communism. I'll wait.
This dude is seriously trying to argue things were better under Batista than Castro.

tpols
07-15-2020, 10:21 AM
Show me the mass emigration by Venezuelans prior to communism. Show me Cubans risking their lives to flee their nation prior to communism. I'll wait.

dude... most of those carribean islands and south american countries were slave colonies for 100s of years. They were dirt poor, taken of advantage people.

CelticBaller
07-15-2020, 10:29 AM
dude... most of those carribean islands and south american countries were slave colonies for 100s of years. They were dirt poor, taken of advantage people.

read up on gran colombia. Those countries havent been colonies for centuries lol

RRR3
07-15-2020, 06:19 PM
read up on gran colombia. Those countries havent been colonies for centuries lol
The point is those countries were worse off before communism. Also, this thread isn't even about a communist. Allende was a democratically elected socialist.