View Full Version : Walmart will start requiring all customers to wear masks
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 11:00 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/business/walmart-masks/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-07-15T14%3A50%3A10&utm_term=link
New York (CNN Business)Walmart, the world's largest retailer, is the latest national chain to require all customers to wear masks.
The change will start next week. Starbucks (SBUX)said last week that it will require customers to wear facial coverings or masks in all 9,000 of its company-owned US stores beginning Wednesday. Best Buy (BBY) announced Tuesday that it will also require all shoppers coming into its approximately 1,000 stores to wear face masks. Costco (COST) began requiring its members to wear masks in stores beginning in May.
Although no federal mandate to wear a mask exists, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says everyone "should wear a cloth face cover when they have to go out in public." The CDC said "face coverings are meant to protect other people."
Prepare for tons of Youtube videos of confrontations and fights at Walmarts across the country. The Mask Gestapo will be out in full force.
coin24
07-15-2020, 11:16 AM
I'm sure Bills puppet Dr Fauci will have an informed opinion on it soon
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 11:18 AM
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Wear a mask indoors what is so hard about that. It's not a political issue, because Conservatives around the world can put on mask and it does not make them lesser than their American counterparts. Even Doug Ford, who is very conservative for Ontario standards, is calling America's approach reckless.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 11:32 AM
Wear a mask indoors what is so hard about that. It's not a political issue, because Conservatives around the world can put on mask and it does not make them lesser than their American counterparts. Even Doug Ford, who is very conservative for Ontario standards, is calling America's approach reckless.
Why did you just make this political?
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 11:43 AM
Wear a mask indoors what is so hard about that. It's not a political issue, because Conservatives around the world can put on mask and it does not make them lesser than their American counterparts. Even Doug Ford, who is very conservative for Ontario standards, is calling America's approach reckless.
Canada is reckless. It's legal to get oral from the family pet. I assume Trudeau made it so, due to all the 1st world genius Mussies that love to rape women and children, this way they just need peanut butter and a goat, s'all good in Canada.
What beautiful eyebrows you've got Tammuz. I mean Trudeau... also born December 25th. Ironically, his father was a nimrod too.
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Rooster
07-15-2020, 11:44 AM
Wear a mask indoors what is so hard about that. It's not a political issue, because Conservatives around the world can put on mask and it does not make them lesser than their American counterparts. Even Doug Ford, who is very conservative for Ontario standards, is calling America's approach reckless.
This is plain and basic common sense.
Covid is a droplet transmission. In droplet precaution, when a infected not have face covering and the people around him/her and have no face covering and not following social distance, the transmission rate of infection is 67%. If those people around him at least wear face covering, it will be 33%. If the infected person wears one, it drops to 17 % and if both of you guys wear face covering it will 6%. If everyone wear face covering and maintain social distance, the chance is virtually low.
But but but it’s cloth mask.
Well the CDC already did a research and study
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html
Stop being reckless so we don’t have to do another shutdown and going back to normal lives if you have one. Moderna is about to lay out “Cove” their most promising Covid vaccine with about 30 k of people. Trump already hoarded the Remdisivir , a failed Ebola drug that’s been clinically effective to slow down Covid for our people. So it looks like everything is coming together but wear mask so you help slow down the transmission of this virus.
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 11:45 AM
Justin Tammuz Tredeau is anything you want him to be. The day the U.S. follows the model of Canada, is the day the U.S. should cease to exist. Then again, progressives would love nothing more than to turn North America into North Korea.
To be like Canada, means renting 90+% of the land your country sits, from Queen Elizabeth. Canada doesn't even own their own country, the Queen does. That's why the cucks hail to the Queen.
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Horatio33
07-15-2020, 11:47 AM
So right wingers are scared of masks, homosexuality, races other that whites, veganism, female rights, health care for all, fact based evidence, reality...
Right wingers are the true snowflakes. They are insecure men.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 11:49 AM
So right wingers are scared of masks, homosexuality, races other that whites, veganism, female rights, health care for all, fact based evidence, reality...
Right wingers are the true snowflakes. They are insecure men.
Libtards are scared of personal freedoms and differences of opinion. Left wingers are the true snowflakes.
They are insecure (insert gender here).
Horatio33
07-15-2020, 11:51 AM
Libtards are scared of personal freedoms and differences of opinion. Left wingers are the true snowflakes.
They are insecure (insert gender here).
Surprised you could put the cheeseburgers down to type that Always Chewing.
Derka
07-15-2020, 11:53 AM
Can't wait for the videos.
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 11:55 AM
So right wingers are scared of masks, homosexuality, races other that whites, veganism, female rights, health care for all, fact based evidence, reality...
Right wingers are the true snowflakes. They are insecure men.
Scared of masks? If anything you're scared of propaganda. Dr. Faucet is could be your gay pedo dad. People that aren't wearing masks, aren't scared of propaganda.
Homsexuality is disgusting. I'll be around gays and it doesn't bother me, but having poop on your dong is pretty nasty.
Scared of races? You've confused Islamic ideology and Zionist ideology with race. Then again, you probably think communism is a race.
Scared of veganism? So people that like meat are scared of vegans? I could throw 99% of vegans through a glass window.
Female rights? What rights don't they have? In divorce they get the kids. In divorce they get alimony. When breaking the law they get way less time.
Health care for all... sex change operations and blockers/estrogen/steroids aren't a necessity for health care.
Anyways... I've really enjoyed your projection. Left can't even come up with their own terms so they just steal 'snow flake' from the right. Shouldn't you be out in the streets chanting "hey hey, ho ho, donald trump has got to go"? Or at your local community college using crayons with coloring books and petting puppies?
Feel free to go out in the street and act like an arrogant turd. So how people respond. You sound like you have an IQ of 80 and can only regurgitate what operation mocking bird cia news network propaganda tells you. Go watch your Rachel Maddow, Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo... virgin.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 11:55 AM
Surprised you could put the cheeseburgers down to type that Always Chewing.
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TheMan
07-15-2020, 11:57 AM
Justin Tammuz Tredeau is anything you want him to be. The day the U.S. follows the model of Canada, is the day the U.S. should cease to exist. Then again, progressives would love nothing more than to turn North America into North Korea.
To be like Canada, means renting 90+% of the land your country sits, from Queen Elizabeth. Canada doesn't even own their own country, the Queen does. That's why the cucks hail to the Queen.
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You're really giving Starface a run for his money as ISH biggest moron...impressive :applause:
TheMan
07-15-2020, 11:59 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/business/walmart-masks/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-07-15T14%3A50%3A10&utm_term=link
Prepare for tons of Youtube videos of confrontations and fights at Walmarts across the country. The Mask Gestapo will be out in full force.
Relax, that's been policy for months here down south of the border and so far no one has been taken to the concentration camps. It's gonna be alright, snowflake.
Canada is reckless. It's legal to get oral from the family pet. I assume Trudeau made it so, due to all the 1st world genius Mussies that love to rape women and children, this way they just need peanut butter and a goat, s'all good in Canada.
What beautiful eyebrows you've got Tammuz. I mean Trudeau... also born December 25th. Ironically, his father was a nimrod too.
https://thecount.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Justin-Trudeau-eyebrow-falling-off-video.jpg
Justin Trudeau is all religions
https://www.cips-cepi.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/trudeau-religion-politics-india-cochrane-210218.jpg
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You acting like I support this clown. I'm actually a card-carrying provincial and federal conservative party member.
tpols
07-15-2020, 12:00 PM
theyve already been doing that for every store near me.
bladefd
07-15-2020, 12:03 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/15/business/walmart-masks/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_content=2020-07-15T14%3A50%3A10&utm_term=link
Prepare for tons of Youtube videos of confrontations and fights at Walmarts across the country. The Mask Gestapo will be out in full force.
You are welcome to not go to Walmart, pattychew. Stay home.
In fact, almost every store here requires a mask.
Shooter
07-15-2020, 12:04 PM
IM OPEN MINDED, AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH ME!!11!! -The Left
FWIW, Wal-Marts in California have required masks since as far back as I can remember.
Justin Tammuz Tredeau is anything you want him to be. The day the U.S. follows the model of Canada, is the day the U.S. should cease to exist. Then again, progressives would love nothing more than to turn North America into North Korea.
To be like Canada, means renting 90+% of the land your country sits, from Queen Elizabeth. Canada doesn't even own their own country, the Queen does. That's why the cucks hail to the Queen.
https://images.thestar.com/jEE051vgD2P6Rm0vFJJ_cORNJho=/1200x726/smart/filters:cb(1568982524100)/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/entertainment/television/2019/09/20/late-night-talk-show-hosts-take-jabs-at-justin-trudeau-amid-blackface-scandal/trudeau.jpg
America doesn't need to become Canada and I hate how Canadians use American health care in the Canadian discourse because every country but 3-4 communist ones allow for private insurance. Same thing how Americans use Canadian health care as a boogie man when there are other superior systems.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 12:08 PM
Relax, that's been policy for months here down south of the border and so far no one has been taken to the concentration camps. It's gonna be alright, snowflake.
They have Walmarts down in Chihuahua?? Or is Gualmart?
LAmbruh
07-15-2020, 12:24 PM
Huge blow to MAGA
Walmart is their primary source of groceries, clothing and career path all bundled in one
But you can't blame them because living in undeveloped rural township like XXL the only thing there is to do is Walmart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYFgVpya5k&feature=emb_title
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 12:25 PM
Huge blow to MAGA
Walmart is their primary source of groceries, clothing and career path
But you can't blame them, living in undeveloped rural township like XXL the only thing there is to do is Walmart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYFgVpya5k&feature=emb_title
Outside of stealing, Walmart is the go to store for Blacks, so slow your role there, Tyrone.
Let's not pretend like you guys are shopping at Fresh Market or Target. :oldlol:
LAmbruh
07-15-2020, 12:31 PM
Today, 09:25 AM
Today, 09:26 AM
whew incredible response time, milli seconds
case in point
But you can't blame them because living in undeveloped rural township like XXL the only thing there is to do is Walmart
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 12:37 PM
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
TheMan
07-15-2020, 12:50 PM
They have Walmarts down in Chihuahua?? Or is Gualmart?
You bet, also Sam's Club, Costco, Best Buy, HEB, K Mart, Walgreens, Sears, Home Depot, Office Depot, Office Max, PetsMart...Google is your friend. :cheers:
scuzzy
07-15-2020, 01:25 PM
Huge blow to MAGA
Walmart is their primary source of groceries, clothing and career path all bundled in one
But you can't blame them because living in undeveloped rural township like XXL the only thing there is to do is Walmart
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Cleverness
07-15-2020, 01:28 PM
Stop being reckless so we don’t have to do another shutdown and going back to normal lives if you have one.
California implemented mandatory masks 4 weeks ago. They just issued a second statewide "lockdown". Majority of people have already been wearing them since ~May. You're overrating the value of masks and how much control US gov't has over this virus past March/April.
SouBeachTalents
07-15-2020, 01:37 PM
Why is this still such a polarizing issue, seriously, how difficult is it to wear a mask for 10-20 minutes when you shop for food every week? So much bitching and moaning over a minor inconvenience :lol
Vino24
07-15-2020, 01:40 PM
Why is this still such a polarizing issue, seriously, how difficult is it to wear a mask for 10-20 minutes when you shop for food every week? So much bitching and moaning over a minor inconvenience :lol
What’s just as interesting is the certain level outrage of being seen without a mask. This whole mask thing has a psychological grab on people
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 01:45 PM
Hey it's okay to lose some of your rights and freedoms, it's just a "minor inconvenience".
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 01:54 PM
America doesn't need to become Canada and I hate how Canadians use American health care in the Canadian discourse because every country but 3-4 communist ones allow for private insurance. Same thing how Americans use Canadian health care as a boogie man when there are other superior systems.
I've never understood the comparison either. Canada is like 10% of the U.S. population.
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 01:57 PM
Huge blow to MAGA
Walmart is their primary source of groceries, clothing and career path all bundled in one
But you can't blame them because living in undeveloped rural township like XXL the only thing there is to do is Walmart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciYFgVpya5k&feature=emb_title
At least they pay for their groceries and have jobs.
Here's the main source of unemployed blm members grocery shopping. And judging by the photo, they don't even have shirts, so they don't need to buy clothes. Would be nice if they bought a belt so I didn't have to see their fugly butt hanging out as they loot liquor stores.
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msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 02:01 PM
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The irony... black people are the leaders in diabetes and obesity. I see digusting black women with their fat hanging out all the time, but they got that fake smelly hair though.
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msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 02:04 PM
Why is this still such a polarizing issue, seriously, how difficult is it to wear a mask for 10-20 minutes when you shop for food every week? So much bitching and moaning over a minor inconvenience :lol
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LAmbruh
07-15-2020, 02:14 PM
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Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 02:15 PM
And what happens if a vaccine is never found?? Are we going to be wearing masks for the rest of our lives? :lol
SARS and MERS have no vaccines.
Listen to the rest of us: Herd immunity. Period.
Rooster
07-15-2020, 02:45 PM
And what happens if a vaccine is never found?? Are we going to be wearing masks for the rest of our lives? :lol
SARS and MERS have no vaccines.
Listen to the rest of us: Herd immunity. Period.
Transmission rate for Asymptomatic cases on those SARS and MERS virus is low 4% and 3.6 %. It means that infected really have have to be sick to infect others.
Thats the reason it was easier to contain and vaccines is unnecessary and no pharma will developed something that has little demand and does not generate profit. Unlike this new Covid strain where Asymptomatic infected becomes unwittingly carrier. Another mutated strain discovered this month also showed its more contagious than original strain.
But this virus mutates slower than Flu so Vaccines potential is promising and there are billion of dollars at stake and everyone is trying to shortcut the process. That’s why I’m pulling for the Moderna Cove project.
No evidence of reinfection yet but not enough data to conclude that passive immunity works but I believed herd immunity can work. We have just gonna have to justify acceptable deaths. Most experts believe IFR is about 1%. So that’s 3 million people and if 7 % without any underlying condition, you are talking about 210k healthy who will die.
At this point wearing mask is to prevent and slowly the transmission . That’s like buying time before our experts figure it out.
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America is nowhere near Communism. Good god, you're retarded.
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 02:49 PM
America is nowhere near Communism. Good god, you're retarded.
I know you're gay and like bum sex with dudes as you get poopy all over your wee wee, but I'm straight and am not interested. You don't have to reply to every single comment I make. I have nothing to say to commies or trannies and you fall under both. Please leave the U.S., you're not wanted in capitalist U.S.A. Your parents made a huge mistake. They are stuck with you til they die.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 02:50 PM
For everyone refusing to wear a mask. You know that was the CCP's strategy right. In the early stages, China told WHO to broadcast to the world that masks are useless.. while at the same time they bought huge shipments of mask from all over the world.
They wanted you all to believe masks were useless so that they can hoard all the masks for themselves.
So if you're anti-mask, you're just a sheep in China's eyes.
Cleverness
07-15-2020, 02:51 PM
Why is this still such a polarizing issue, seriously, how difficult is it to wear a mask for 10-20 minutes when you shop for food every week? So much bitching and moaning over a minor inconvenience :lol
For the record, I think it's OK for private businesses to require people to wear masks, as do most people.
The mandatory mask mandates - such as the one in CA 4 weeks ago - when the majority were already wearing a mask are foolish, a net negative, but on a much smaller scale than the lockdowns (HUGE problem).
Big gov't failed in many ways, so those who cannot accept that old/frail people will die, doubled-down on the illusion of control. "If only big gov't had more control over our lives, the virus will go away." So we got mask mandates 6 months into the virus spread. Unfortunately they are just going to push blame towards each other, causing more division, fear, anger, and resentment, in a false belief that "if only that asshole guy/Karen did his part by wearing a mask we could stop the spread."
State Govs are shifting blame from themselves to the citizen. They have convinced the majority of the USA that it is YOUR fault so many ppl died, & that YOU should "do more" to stop virus. It's all baloney, a magic trick to cover up their negligence, incompetence, and cowardice.
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We must step up to these tyrants and refuse to wear a mask or who knows what other draconic methods that they can enforce onto us
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 03:02 PM
For everyone refusing to wear a mask. You know that was the CCP's strategy right. In the early stages, China told WHO to broadcast to the world that masks are useless.. while at the same time they bought huge shipments of mask from all over the world.
They wanted you all to believe masks were useless so that they can hoard all the masks for themselves.
So if you're anti-mask, you're just a sheep in China's eyes.
Yeahhhhh that's not the definition of a sheep.
For everyone refusing to wear a mask. You know that was the CCP's strategy right. In the early stages, China told WHO to broadcast to the world that masks are useless.. while at the same time they bought huge shipments of mask from all over the world.
They wanted you all to believe masks were useless so that they can hoard all the masks for themselves.
So if you're anti-mask, you're just a sheep in China's eyes.
Do you wear a mask for the seasonal flu?
Because that's how deadly this weak ass virus is. May as well wear a mask for the rest of your pathetic life if you're so afraid of catching the cold
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:02 PM
We must step up to these tyrants and refuse to wear a mask or who knows what other draconic methods that they can enforce onto us
Refusal to wear a mask = lock downs.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:04 PM
Do you wear a mask for the seasonal flu?
Because that's how deadly this weak ass virus is. May as well wear a mask for the rest of your pathetic life if you're so afraid of catching the cold
Let's see who's life is more pathetic? I'm in a country thats opening up as long as we all wear a mask.
So let's compare here. I'm enjoying my freedom with a mask on. You'll be stuck at home without a mask on.
I'll choose to go out with the mask. Thanks.
Refusal to wear a mask = lock downs.
You sound like Hitler.
"If you don't obey we will put you on house arrest!!"
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 03:06 PM
Let's see who's life is more pathetic? I'm in a country thats opening up as long as we all wear a mask.
So let's compare here. I'm enjoying my freedom with a mask on. You'll be stuck at home without a mask on.
I'll choose to go out with the mask. Thanks.
Sheep. Doing what they tell you to do.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:10 PM
Sheep. Doing what they tell you to do.
Rather be a free ranging sheep than a sheep locked in a box.
Sheep. Doing what they tell you to do.
It's really sad how obedient some people are
They never question anything, just do as their told
Pathetic :lol
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:11 PM
You sound like Hitler.
"If you don't obey we will put you on house arrest!!"
Well that's exactly what's happening in your country. Don't like it? Leave.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:13 PM
It's really sad how obedient some people are
They never question anything, just do as their told
Pathetic :lol
I get it. You're spending all your time watching youtube conspiracy videos at home because you'll be stuck at home for months.
Freedooommmmmm. In your basement.
I get it. You're spending all your time watching youtube conspiracy videos at home because you'll be stuck at home for months.
Freedooommmmmm. In your basement.
Luckily I am in a country where I can go out in public without a mask :rockon:
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:19 PM
It's really sad how obedient some people are
They never question anything, just do as their told
Pathetic :lol
And it's funny that you say "do as their told" when the government spent a good 5 months telling us not to wear a mask.
I've been wearing a mask and telling everyone to wear a mask when our governments were telling us not to.
The government spent more time this year telling us to not to wear a mask than actually telling us to wear one.
So who really is the sheep here? Looks like you drank their koolaid early on and can't get out of it now.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 03:25 PM
And it's funny that you say "do as their told" when the government spent a good 5 months telling us not to wear a mask.
I've been wearing a mask and telling everyone to wear a mask when our governments were telling us not to.
The government spent more time this year telling us to not to wear a mask than actually telling us to wear one.
So who really is the sheep here? Looks like you drank their koolaid early on and can't get out of it now.
This is incorrect. The government cannot tell you what to wear or what not to wear. The government never said you could not wear a mask. The government said you don't have to, which is correct. Just as they haven't told us to wear one either.
You're wearing a mask cause everyone else is freaking out and wearing one, which in turn is forcing large companies to enforce the requirement of wearing a mask in their establishment. Then there are the mask shamers which are just despicable people in their own right. Mind your business and I'll mind mine.
And it's funny that you say "do as their told" when the government spent a good 5 months telling us not to wear a mask.
I've been wearing a mask and telling everyone to wear a mask when our governments were telling us not to.
The government spent more time this year telling us to not to wear a mask than actually telling us to wear one.
So who really is the sheep here? Looks like you drank their koolaid early on and can't get out of it now.
How long are you going to wear a mask buddy, the rest of your life because this virus is here to stay :oldlol:
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:29 PM
This is incorrect. The government cannot tell you what to wear or what not to wear. The government never said you could not wear a mask. The government said you don't have to, which is correct. Just as they haven't told us to wear one either.
You're wearing a mask cause everyone else is freaking out and wearing one, which in turn is forcing large companies to enforce the requirement of wearing a mask in their establishment. Then there are the mask shamers which are just despicable people in their own right. Mind your business and I'll mind mine.
Doesn't change the fact that WHO advised us all that masks were useless for months. We all know WHO is controlled by China. They told us this info so that China can buy up all the masks behind our backs.
Obviously China knew masks were effective but tricked us into thinking they weren't.
So yes, all you anti-mask people are sheep's to China.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:30 PM
How long are you going to wear a mask buddy, the rest of your life because this virus is here to stay :oldlol:
Hopefully only a couple more months. Depending how bad a 2nd wave in the fall is.
You on the other hand.. might need to wear a mask for another year or 2. Depending on how long the virus lasts in your state.
Poor Noobie probably goes to bed with his little dog muzzle on :oldlol:
Hopefully only a couple more months. Depending how bad a 2nd wave in the fall is.
You on the other hand.. might need to wear a mask for another year or 2. Depending on how long the virus lasts in your state.
I live in the UK and 90% of us don't wear masks
We're not hysterical f*cks like you Americans :lol
n00bie
07-15-2020, 03:34 PM
I live in the UK and 90% of us don't wear masks
We're not hysterical f*cks like you Americans :lol
Didnt masks just become mandatory in UK?
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 03:34 PM
This is incorrect. The government cannot tell you what to wear or what not to wear. The government never said you could not wear a mask. The government said you don't have to, which is correct. Just as they haven't told us to wear one either.
You're wearing a mask cause everyone else is freaking out and wearing one, which in turn is forcing large companies to enforce the requirement of wearing a mask in their establishment. Then there are the mask shamers which are just despicable people in their own right. Mind your business and I'll mind mine.
No! Not okay! People have gay pride and you're going to listen! They need you to know that gay people matter. If you don't acknowledge their gayness/bisexuality and watch them half naked in the streets, you're a bigot. And if you support the cops, you're a racist. Let's go spray paint walls, yell at statues, change school names, burn the national anthem and replace it with a 70's song by Bill Withers. Just throw constitution in with the national anthem, who needs a constitution? North Korea + Sharia = (NewWorldOrder)USA, yeaaaaaah!!!!!!
Didnt masks just become mandatory in UK?
Only on public transport and even then you still see people on buses without their masks
pastis
07-15-2020, 03:43 PM
The obligation to wear masks in public transportation and in shops, retail sector etc. is already effective/mandatory for round about 8 weeks in germany. And this is a problem for us citizens?
diamenz
07-15-2020, 03:43 PM
people should have more important things to worry about than wearing a mask for twenty minutes while they shop. some things aren't worth fussing over. learn to pick your battles, people. take up a hobby or something.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 03:51 PM
No! Not okay! People have gay pride and you're going to listen! They need you to know that gay people matter. If you don't acknowledge their gayness/bisexuality and watch them half naked in the streets, you're a bigot. And if you support the cops, you're a racist. Let's go spray paint walls, yell at statues, change school names, burn the national anthem and replace it with a 70's song by Bill Withers. Just throw constitution in with the national anthem, who needs a constitution? North Korea + Sharia = (NewWorldOrder)USA, yeaaaaaah!!!!!!
Can you imagine conducting your day to day life purely on emotion? Never sitting down and analyzing every situation prior to you acting on it. Never doing any research, never thinking objectively, just a continuous loop of outrage.
These people will die of heart-attacks by the age of 40. They'll wipe each other out that way. Good.
imdaman99
07-15-2020, 04:00 PM
Good. I don't go to Walmart but i want as few people as possible to spread covid as possible.
scuzzy
07-15-2020, 04:05 PM
The obligation to wear masks in public transportation and in shops, retail sector etc. is already effective/mandatory for round about 8 weeks in germany. And this is a problem for us citizens?
Nah, were talking about a very small sector of Mericans here. Specifically ones that don't venture further than upstairs to downstairs to upstairs within a 24hr time frame
I mean for christ sakes OP says a few posts up his rights are being stripped and freedom oppressed because he has to abide by private businesses rules in order to get service. :oldlol:
Or in other words
https://media.tenor.com/images/d6eb7c160a0b5a313fa495d38da1fdf3/tenor.gif
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 04:09 PM
https://media2.giphy.com/media/gPkIN121mRrZS/200.gif
scuzzy
07-15-2020, 04:21 PM
No shirt, No shoes, No mask
XXL:
https://media.tenor.com/images/d6eb7c160a0b5a313fa495d38da1fdf3/tenor.gif
I know you're gay and like bum sex with dudes as you get poopy all over your wee wee, but I'm straight and am not interested. You don't have to reply to every single comment I make. I have nothing to say to commies or trannies and you fall under both. Please leave the U.S., you're not wanted in capitalist U.S.A. Your parents made a huge mistake. They are stuck with you til they die.
I'm not gay, slugger, you're clearly projecting here.
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 04:26 PM
No shirt, No shoes, No mask
XXL:
https://media.tenor.com/images/d6eb7c160a0b5a313fa495d38da1fdf3/tenor.gif
https://media1.tenor.com/images/b30ca46a900cb51bfdef3fc0c89c443d/tenor.gif
The death of individuality for sheep bitches like you.
Chewy calling people sheep when he does whatever Trump tells him to do :biggums:
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 04:30 PM
Chewy calling people sheep when he does whatever Trump tells him to do :biggums:
Like live free and think for myself. Yes.
Proof that not only masks do not work but they actually put you at higher risk of getting infection.
Moisture retention, re use of masks and poor filtration increase you risk of getting the virus that's why scientists recommend against wearing a mask
https://youtu.be/h8upEg-bEJ8
TheMan
07-15-2020, 05:28 PM
Luckily I am in a country where I can go out in public without a mask :rockon:
Yo Manny, got bad news for you...looks like masks will be compulsory after all :oldlol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53397617
TheMan
07-15-2020, 05:30 PM
Only on public transport and even then you still see people on buses without their masks
You lying POS lol
dude77
07-15-2020, 05:36 PM
they've been requiring a mask for a couple months here in south florida .. any store for that matter .. surprised it wasn't a national policy already
Giving up on controlling this virus and hitting herd immunity is a strategy that will backfire. Even if all 320 million Americans get infected and develop antibodies, the downward spiral of America’s economy will not stop, because guess what - the rest of the world doesn’t have antibodies and herd immunity. The rest of the world will stop traveling to and doing business with America, and Americans will not be welcome anywhere. The American passport will go from the most widely accepted to banned. The rest of the world will be opening up, with business as usual, and will be moving on from this virus, while America will be ostracized. All because a certain few refused to do what clearly worked in other countries. So keep at it America. The rest of the world is chomping at the bit to replace your status as world leader. /popcorn
You lying POS lol
Most people that I have spoken to are anti mask and are only wearing it so they don't catch a fine
I wear it so it doesn't cover my nose so I can breathe
msbutthurt
07-15-2020, 06:02 PM
Most people that I have spoken to are anti mask and are only wearing it so they don't catch a fine
I wear it so it doesn't cover my nose so I can breathe
That describes me. Only wear it if I have to and am constantly pulling it below my nose.
Hope I didn't touch covid groceries... because by adjusting my mask, I would surely give it to me-self.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWCF3Gcjjq8
You lying POS lol
He doesn't actually live in the UK, obviously.
He doesn't actually live in the UK, obviously.
I have literally proved that I live in the UK dummy :oldlol:
What do I even gain from lying about that
AirBonner
07-15-2020, 06:23 PM
Who in Walmart is physically capable of making us wear a mask?
https://twitter.com/MSPFirstDist/status/1283069378917957632?s=20
Patrick Chewing
07-15-2020, 07:17 PM
Who in Walmart is physically capable of making us wear a mask?
The old man greeter. Old man strength is real.
Kblaze8855
07-15-2020, 08:07 PM
I’d rather not. If I’m in a mall I have to really want something to bother masking up to go into a particular store but the people about to be outraged in the videos to come are just idiots. When I don’t wanna wear a mask I just don’t shop places that require it. It kinda bugs me when a city does it and overrules people on their property but when a business chooses for itself?
Ok. Not my call. I’ve not used my Costco membership for a long time. I get by.
You just know some 11 dollars an hour teenager is about to get broken down to tears by some jackass acting like it’s her fault he can’t checkout while not following the stores dress code as if she wrote it.
Some places don’t let you wear sneakers. You don’t show your ass...you go elsewhere for dinner or put on sneakers. You don’t set the rules in someone else’s establishment. Figure it out.
These people better learn about curbside pickup.
AirBonner
07-15-2020, 08:11 PM
I’d rather not. If I’m in a mall I have to really want something to bother masking up to go into a particular store but the people about to be outraged in the videos to come are just idiots. When I don’t wanna wear a mask I just don’t shop places that require it. It kinda bugs me when a city does it and overrules people on their property but when a business chooses for itself?
Ok. Not my call. I’ve not used my Costco membership for a long time. I get by.
You just know some 11 dollars an hour teenager is about to get broken down to tears by some jackass acting like it’s her fault he can’t checkout while not following the stores dress code as if she wrote it.
Some places don’t let you wear sneakers. You don’t show your ass...you go elsewhere for dinner or put on sneakers. You don’t set the rules in someone else’s establishment. Figure it out.
These people better learn about curbside pickup.
Walmart doesn’t have cashiers anyways lol
Gabe Ball
07-15-2020, 08:15 PM
Giving up on controlling this virus and hitting herd immunity is a strategy that will backfire. Even if all 320 million Americans get infected and develop antibodies, the downward spiral of America’s economy will not stop, because guess what - the rest of the world doesn’t have antibodies and herd immunity. The rest of the world will stop traveling to and doing business with America, and Americans will not be welcome anywhere. The American passport will go from the most widely accepted to banned. The rest of the world will be opening up, with business as usual, and will be moving on from this virus, while America will be ostracized. All because a certain few refused to do what clearly worked in other countries. So keep at it America. The rest of the world is chomping at the bit to replace your status as world leader. /popcorn
I don't really think that'll be the case. This is assuming that other countries will be able to beat the virus, which would signify that they likely have a cure/vaccine for it. Couldn't an American just receive the cure/vaccine and get checked at the airport before traveling? Besides, stopping business with America is gonna put a damper on the income of other businesses, so the idea you have personally seems farfetched.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 08:19 PM
I don't really think that'll be the case. This is assuming that other countries will be able to beat the virus, which would signify that they likely have a cure/vaccine for it. Couldn't an American just receive the cure/vaccine and get checked at the airport before traveling? Besides, stopping business with America is gonna put a damper on the income of other businesses, so the idea you have personally seems farfetched.
That already is the case though. Europe opened their borders to a lot of countries but not the U.S.
HylianNightmare
07-15-2020, 08:22 PM
As it should be
TheCorporation
07-15-2020, 08:31 PM
Giving up on controlling this virus and hitting herd immunity is a strategy that will backfire. Even if all 320 million Americans get infected and develop antibodies, the downward spiral of America’s economy will not stop, because guess what - the rest of the world doesn’t have antibodies and herd immunity. The rest of the world will stop traveling to and doing business with America, and Americans will not be welcome anywhere. The American passport will go from the most widely accepted to banned. The rest of the world will be opening up, with business as usual, and will be moving on from this virus, while America will be ostracized. All because a certain few refused to do what clearly worked in other countries. So keep at it America. The rest of the world is chomping at the bit to replace your status as world leader. /popcorn
55% of 330 million is 181.5 million and 82% is 270.6 million (that makes an average of 226 mil) for the record but more importantly herd immunity works by stopping the spread so I'm not sure you understand how it works. Let me do a quick demonstration image below:
https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/covid-herd-immunity.jpg
n00bie
07-15-2020, 08:34 PM
55% of 330 million is 181.5 million and 82% is 270.6 million (that makes an average of 226 mil) for the record but more importantly herd immunity works by stopping the spread so I'm not sure you understand how it works. Let me do a quick demonstration image below:
https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/covid-herd-immunity.jpg
Too bad there are cases of people getting reinfected.
I don't really think that'll be the case. This is assuming that other countries will be able to beat the virus, which would signify that they likely have a cure/vaccine for it. Couldn't an American just receive the cure/vaccine and get checked at the airport before traveling? Besides, stopping business with America is gonna put a damper on the income of other businesses, so the idea you have personally seems farfetched.
I acknowledge that a vaccine could be the saving grace. However, does being immune or being vaccinated mean you can not be a carrier of the virus? After all, that is what other countries (whose communities aren't immune or vaccinated) will care about. I won't pretend to be a health expert or disease specialist like clever. I do not know the answer. There is a lot we do not know about this virus and if everything does not go according to plan, this could very well be a worst case scenario for America.
n00bie
07-15-2020, 09:04 PM
I acknowledge that a vaccine could be the saving grace. However, does being immune or being vaccinated mean you can not be a carrier of the virus? After all, that is what other countries (whose communities aren't immune or vaccinated) will care about. I won't pretend to be a health expert or disease specialist like clever. I do not know the answer. There is a lot we do not know about this virus and if everything does not go according to plan, this could very well be a worst case scenario for America.
Let's be honest here. Most of the anti-maskers are also anti-vaccine.
Who's going to these marts nowadays?
bladefd
07-16-2020, 02:55 AM
Too bad there are cases of people getting reinfected.
I am not so sure about that. It could be due to faulty tests showing false positives or something on re-test after getting better or some human error somewhere. Getting infected is supposed to build immunity, but I am not sure what is going on in those testing as reinfected. Something isn't right
Jasper
07-16-2020, 09:59 AM
should of happened months ago... wife asked about why the delay -
I stated : " Sam and his family knew who made them rich .... the poor scrappers that are basically Trump supporters saying I have a right
to not wear a mask..... so this trash was going in and buying everything off the shelves"
Now there is some control.
John Menard did not want it on his head that he had shoppers dying from cvd19 cause his store allowed no masks...
He I respect cause as soon as it happened cvd19 he had a store policy !!!!!!!!!!!!!
msbutthurt
07-16-2020, 10:32 AM
should of happened months ago... wife asked about why the delay -
I stated : " Sam and his family knew who made them rich .... the poor scrappers that are basically Trump supporters saying I have a right
to not wear a mask..... so this trash was going in and buying everything off the shelves"
Now there is some control.
John Menard did not want it on his head that he had shoppers dying from cvd19 cause his store allowed no masks...
He I respect cause as soon as it happened cvd19 he had a store policy !!!!!!!!!!!!!
As opposed to the majority of black people being poor trash that steal everything off target shelves and are breaking into liquor stores around the country to get crunk.
I can racist too, ya obese, diabetes havin' m-fer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJoaNDPWC0g
Rooster
07-16-2020, 11:25 AM
I am not so sure about that. It could be due to faulty tests showing false positives or something on re-test after getting better or some human error somewhere. Getting infected is supposed to build immunity, but I am not sure what is going on in those testing as reinfected. Something isn't right
Right now it’s mostly anecdotal so it’s still inconclusive. It takes times to determine if the natural immunity produced enough antibodies . One research in Korea last May says no but recent research published recently states that antibodies dropping in time is indicating that it’s a high possibility that people who acquired natural immunity will get reinfected again. It’s not peer reviewed yet and this is from China who’s known for intellectual dishonesty so I’ll wait for a research here. Conventional wisdom suggest though that since this virus comes from a family of virus that cause common cold , there’s a lingering idea that it’s possible with Covid too (you can get common cold many times). Also people compare this to flu, so to follow their logic, you get get flu every year. The difference is Flu has a vaccine and some antiviral drugs that kill the flu virus.
Rooster
07-16-2020, 11:37 AM
55% of 330 million is 181.5 million and 82% is 270.6 million (that makes an average of 226 mil) for the record but more importantly herd immunity works by stopping the spread so I'm not sure you understand how it works. Let me do a quick demonstration image below:
https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/covid-herd-immunity.jpg
They definitely work. Vaccines provide herd immunity . Natural immunity also does . The question is how long your antibodies last to protect you. Since this is a Novel virus and there are anectodal eveidence that people getting reinfected again, a published research and peer reviewed will determine if this can withstand the test of time. There’s one done in China and I’m skeptical with those people.
Patrick Chewing
07-16-2020, 02:19 PM
Welp, we are losing this battle of freedom. Target and CVS have announced they will be requiring customers nationwide to wear masks too.
Mind you, there is no data that shows that people are catching COVID by going to the stores to shop for groceries. We've been practicing social distancing for 4 months now, but it's still not enough.
I was at a CVS this morning and it was a ghost town. Self checkout is all they use now. But that's not enough. A mask is needed for me to spend my money in your establishment.
All for a virus with a 98-99 percent survival rate.
bladefd
07-16-2020, 02:21 PM
Welp, we are losing this battle of freedom. Target and CVS have announced they will be requiring customers nationwide to wear masks too.
Mind you, there is no data that shows that people are catching COVID by going to the stores to shop for groceries. We've been practicing social distancing for 4 months now, but it's still not enough.
I was at a CVS this morning and it was a ghost town. Self checkout is all they use now. But that's not enough. A mask is needed for me to spend my money in your establishment.
You are welcome to not go to target or CVS
Patrick Chewing
07-16-2020, 02:21 PM
You are welcome to not go to target or CVS
Why can't you guys come up with a better retort than this? This is so overused.
Went to Asda (UK version of Walmart) today & 90% of people including the staff weren't wearing a mask and no one is following these stupid social distancing rules whatsoever :oldlol:
Going to be interesting next week when it becomes mandatory to wear one in shops a lot of people are definitely not going to comply
bladefd
07-16-2020, 02:27 PM
Why can't you guys come up with a better retort than this? This is so overused.
That's the only retort I need :pimp:
Kblaze8855
07-16-2020, 08:33 PM
Why can't you guys come up with a better retort than this? This is so overused.
Why would there be any other response? You obviously have no standing to tell a business what it’s dress code is. You do have a right to not shop there if you don’t want. This shit is annoying I grant but the energy people spend on it is kinda over the top.
The government trying to enforce it raised issues to me. A business?
Thats just annoying but not like....something to fight. If you don’t want me buying your peaches or whatever if I don’t have a mask...**** it. I hope they go bad. But it’s not my place to argue.
I only feel for old people who don’t have a good grasp on how to get supplies without in store shopping...but it’s not like they can’t. It just annoys some. Nobody is really denied anything.
n00bie
07-16-2020, 08:44 PM
Went to Asda (UK version of Walmart) today & 90% of people including the staff weren't wearing a mask and no one is following these stupid social distancing rules whatsoever :oldlol:
Going to be interesting next week when it becomes mandatory to wear one in shops a lot of people are definitely not going to comply
Sounds like the UK is turning into a shlt hole like the U.S.
Sounds like the UK is turning into a shlt hole like the U.S.
I've heard they're being overrun by the isis there right now... Oops, i mean muslims taking over.
Cleverness
07-16-2020, 09:50 PM
You should wear a mask for the safety of yourself and those around you. It will help prevent you from being harassed, filmed, shamed, doxxed, assaulted, and losing your job. It will help others cope with their fear, panic, hysteria, and anxiety.
And uhh... never harass an employee when they ask you to wear a mask. Most of them get told by their supervisor who was told by their supervisor (who was told by the county told by the state etc..)
You should wear a mask for the safety of yourself and those around you. It will help prevent you from being harassed, filmed, shamed, doxxed, assaulted, and losing your job. It will help others cope with their fear, panic, hysteria, and anxiety.
And uhh... never harass an employee when they ask you to wear a mask. Most of them get told by their supervisor who was told by their supervisor (who was told by the county told by the state etc..)
Got a chart for that?
msbutthurt
07-16-2020, 10:02 PM
Got a chart for that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69PXpLtd-Ew
bladefd
07-16-2020, 10:36 PM
You should wear a mask for the safety of yourself and those around you. It will help prevent you from being harassed, filmed, shamed, doxxed, assaulted, and losing your job. It will help others cope with their fear, panic, hysteria, and anxiety.
And uhh... never harass an employee when they ask you to wear a mask. Most of them get told by their supervisor who was told by their supervisor (who was told by the county told by the state etc..)
It will only do the things you listed, but a mask won't stop or severely minimize the spread of COVID, right?
Patrick Chewing
07-16-2020, 10:41 PM
There is no credible science behind the wearing of a mask. I see some of these people on the streets with these masks so loose it’s funny. If anything, masks are bacteria traps. I mean, why do you see all these commercials about cleaning your CPAP tube?? Bacteria!
And then this begs the bigger question....when can we take the masks off?? When there’s a vaccine?? :oldlol:
n00bie
07-17-2020, 12:35 AM
There is no credible science behind the wearing of a mask. I see some of these people on the streets with these masks so loose it’s funny. If anything, masks are bacteria traps. I mean, why do you see all these commercials about cleaning your CPAP tube?? Bacteria!
And then this begs the bigger question....when can we take the masks off?? When there’s a vaccine?? :oldlol:
Americans are hopeless.
Americans are hopeless.
Yea for real. All these countries with low transmission rates are telling you the secret to their success is masks. Taiwan is even sending America masks to help out, but nah masks don’t work. It’s the asian DNA, it’s their culture, it’s that they’re too proud to fail and are liars, it’s their latitude position from the equator, it’s the distance their country is from the moon that’s helping them with the virus. How arrogant, stubborn, and dumb can you get?
n00bie
07-17-2020, 12:57 AM
Yea for real. All these countries with low transmission rates are telling you the secret to their success is masks. Taiwan is even sending America masks to help out, but nah masks don’t work. It’s the asian DNA, it’s their culture, it’s that they’re too proud to fail and are liars, it’s their latitude position from the equator, it’s the distance their country is from the moon that’s helping them with the virus. How arrogant, stubborn, and dumb can you get?
You know what this reminds me of? When the U.S. introduced condoms to Africa to stop HIV, and Africans just laughed at the thought of condoms.
TheMan
07-17-2020, 01:03 PM
There is no credible science behind the wearing of a mask. I see some of these people on the streets with these masks so loose it’s funny. If anything, masks are bacteria traps. I mean, why do you see all these commercials about cleaning your CPAP tube?? Bacteria!
And then this begs the bigger question....when can we take the masks off?? When there’s a vaccine?? :oldlol:
Christ bro, no one is asking you to wear the thing 24/7 :facepalm
TheMan
07-17-2020, 01:04 PM
Yea for real. All these countries with low transmission rates are telling you the secret to their success is masks. Taiwan is even sending America masks to help out, but nah masks don’t work. It’s the asian DNA, it’s their culture, it’s that they’re too proud to fail and are liars, it’s their latitude position from the equator, it’s the distance their country is from the moon that’s helping them with the virus. How arrogant, stubborn, and dumb can you get?
lol :applause:
Patrick Chewing
07-17-2020, 01:08 PM
Christ bro, no one is asking you to wear the thing 24/7 :facepalm
No one should be telling me to wear it period.
Levity
07-17-2020, 01:09 PM
How many of my ISH boys have acutally shopped at walmart since the pandemic began? godspeed to those who have
TheMan
07-17-2020, 01:17 PM
No one should be telling me to wear it period.
Ok so you're fine with the gov mandating wearing car seat belts and motorcycle helmets for your own safety (you get fined if you don't) but temporarily using surgical face masks to help contain a virus is going too far...ok :lol
Patrick Chewing
07-17-2020, 01:21 PM
Ok so you're fine with the gov mandating wearing car seat belts and motorcycle helmets for your own safety (you get fined if you don't) but temporarily using surgical face masks to help contain a virus is going too far...ok :lol
Because those have been proven to save lives. Masks haven't. This is real simple. Not sure why you guys are bending over here for masks.
bladefd
07-17-2020, 01:28 PM
No one should be telling me to wear it period.
Then don't go to the store or be around other people.
ItsMillerTime
07-17-2020, 01:29 PM
Because those have been proven to save lives. Masks haven't. This is real simple. Not sure why you guys are bending over here for masks.
You are so goddamn retarded. MASKS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO LIMIT THE SPREAD OF CORONAVIRUS. I seriously hope you get sick or you make your family sick you selfish fvcking prick. We need less Patrick Chewings on this planet. Thank God no woman would ever procreate with you.
msbutthurt
07-17-2020, 01:29 PM
How many of my ISH boys have acutally shopped at walmart since the pandemic began? godspeed to those who have
I be ballin at wallinmart like 30 times since da lockdown sucka. I be eatin dat rotisserie chicken wit muh bare hands after I handle they carts like a nascart driver. Takin laps, drinkin fraps, hit da toilet on da wayz out to to releases muh craps.
TheMan
07-17-2020, 01:32 PM
Because those have been proven to save lives. Masks haven't. This is real simple. Not sure why you guys are bending over here for masks.
:facepalm
msbutthurt
07-17-2020, 01:32 PM
Then don't go to the store or be around other people.
Don't like Trump or want people to have guns? Go to another country and get out of the U.S. No other country has Trump or citizens with guns, so people that hate Trump and want to take away guns shouldn't be in the U.S. because they reject the constitution. Make America the Greatest Ever. All it requires is progressives leaving.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NYJjoT-A8C0/UAP7JsS9DVI/AAAAAAAAB6g/S_VVq2I21BU/s1600/jeremy-piven-gtfo.gif
Stanley Kobrick
07-17-2020, 01:35 PM
Because those have been proven to save lives. Masks haven't. This is real simple. Not sure why you guys are bending over here for masks.
doctors and dentists have been wearing masks for centuries to protect against human to human airborne pathogens, saliva, mucous, and other bodily fluids. it's been saving lives for a long time
Patrick Chewing
07-17-2020, 01:53 PM
doctors and dentists have been wearing masks for centuries to protect against human to human airborne pathogens, saliva, mucous, and other bodily fluids. it's been saving lives for a long time
So when you make out with a girl, do you die right afterwards?
I mean are we talking about wearing masks to prevent getting sick or are we talking about wearing masks to prevent us from dying? Why haven't we worn masks for the common cold or the flu?
Stanley Kobrick
07-17-2020, 03:03 PM
So when you make out with a girl, do you die right afterwards?
yes people die from sexual transmitted diseases all the time, we also wear protection against that to called condoms
I mean are we talking about wearing masks to prevent getting sick or are we talking about wearing masks to prevent us from dying?
both
Why haven't we worn masks for the common cold or the flu?
severity of it's contagion, death rate and lack of overall understanding. a year from now or so after research has been gathered and a vaccine develop people will look back at this pandemic as a minor hiccup in human history. but right now wearing a mask in privately owned businesses is such a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things. anyone who argues otherwise of such a small task is certainly a prima donna in other aspects of life.
Yea for real. All these countries with low transmission rates are telling you the secret to their success is masks. Taiwan is even sending America masks to help out, but nah masks don’t work. It’s the asian DNA, it’s their culture, it’s that they’re too proud to fail and are liars, it’s their latitude position from the equator, it’s the distance their country is from the moon that’s helping them with the virus. How arrogant, stubborn, and dumb can you get?
Show me scientific proof that masks work
I'll wait because I guarantee you won't be able to find any
No one should be telling me to wear it period.
Facts, nothing should be compulsory, it goes against Human rights
Patrick Chewing
07-17-2020, 03:09 PM
yes people die from sexual transmitted diseases all the time, we also wear protection against that to called condoms
both
severity of it's contagion, death rate and lack of overall understanding. a year from now or so after research has been gathered and a vaccine develop people will look back at this pandemic as a minor hiccup in human history. but right now wearing a mask in privately owned businesses is such a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things. anyone who argues otherwise of such a small task is certainly a prima donna in other aspects of life.
Then why aren't we wearing masks every day? Why are we still kissing and having sex?
And the death rate of the contagion is 2.5% and only truly affects those with already underlying medical conditions.
We are freaking the **** out over 2.5% of this contagion being fatal.
Why is herd immunity such a foreign and underappreciated concept for some of you?
Stanley Kobrick
07-17-2020, 03:17 PM
Then why aren't we wearing masks every day? Why are we still kissing and having sex?
your ilk has nothing to worry about in that department
We are freaking the **** out over 2.5% of this contagion being fatal.
looks like you're the only one having a tantrum, to the rest of us it's a small inconvenience compared to our other responsibilities in life. unhappily married white woman who's only task for the day is traveling to target and back. makes sense why they are the poster figure of every viral outrage clips.
TheMan
07-17-2020, 03:42 PM
Don't like Trump or want people to have guns? Go to another country and get out of the U.S. No other country has Trump or citizens with guns, so people that hate Trump and want to take away guns shouldn't be in the U.S. because they reject the constitution. Make America the Greatest Ever. All it requires is progressives leaving.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NYJjoT-A8C0/UAP7JsS9DVI/AAAAAAAAB6g/S_VVq2I21BU/s1600/jeremy-piven-gtfo.gif
No reason for the anti Trumpers to leave now...your boi is out next January but instead of bitching about Biden and Dems, maybe you should GTFO?
TheMan
07-17-2020, 03:45 PM
I be ballin at wallinmart like 30 times since da lockdown sucka. I be eatin dat rotisserie chicken wit muh bare hands after I handle they carts like a nascart driver. Takin laps, drinkin fraps, hit da toilet on da wayz out to to releases muh craps.
cringe af
Patrick Chewing
07-17-2020, 03:52 PM
your ilk has nothing to worry about in that department
looks like you're the only one having a tantrum, to the rest of us it's a small inconvenience compared to our other responsibilities in life. unhappily married white woman who's only task for the day is traveling to target and back. makes sense why they are the poster figure of every viral outrage clips.
When one is confronted with questions that they cannot answer or are unable to due to lack of information, resort to ad hominem attacks.
Kblaze8855
07-17-2020, 04:33 PM
Saw Home Depot, Lowe’s, and a gang of smaller places announce the same thing. People online lying about how they won’t get their business. Like you’re gonna wait months to get your pipes fixed if they burst....
Gonna mask up or get someone to do it on your behalf. It’s a lost fight at this point.
msbutthurt
07-17-2020, 06:42 PM
cringe af
Agreed. Speaking in Ebonics is "cringe". So is saying cringe like a 10 year old. Other things that are "cringe"....
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Ebonics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebonics_(word)
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imdaman99
07-17-2020, 07:40 PM
your ilk has nothing to worry about in that department
looks like you're the only one having a tantrum, to the rest of us it's a small inconvenience compared to our other responsibilities in life. unhappily married white woman who's only task for the day is traveling to target and back. makes sense why they are the poster figure of every viral outrage clips.
Stanley bruh, who is your ISH Karen lineup?
PG
SG
SF
PF
C
They can't all be clumsy centers, can they? :oldlol:
Rooster
07-17-2020, 09:24 PM
Then why aren't we wearing masks every day? Why are we still kissing and having sex?
And the death rate of the contagion is 2.5% and only truly affects those with already underlying medical conditions.
We are freaking the **** out over 2.5% of this contagion being fatal.
Why is herd immunity such a foreign and underappreciated concept for some of you?
7% of deaths have no underlying conditions.
The study in Italy also indicates that 15-20% who survived the Covid also develop fibrosis in their lungs so your breathing is complicated even if you survived . Also studies found a lot pts developed blood clots so unless you are healthy and do some sort of cardio to create collateral circulation, you’re a high risk for stroke bruh.
Most UK retailers have come out and said that despite it being a law to wear face masks in shops starting from Friday that they won't pressure customers who come in without wearing one.
I don't really get what's the point of making these laws when most people are not going to follow them :oldlol:
You walk into your local grocery store and 75% of us are not wearing masks & most people I have spoken to don't like the idea of wearing them period
Thank God I don't live in America where the security guard can literally throw you out of Walmart for not having a mask :facepalm
Had to share this because my man was spitting some facts
https://twitter.com/GeneralDilley/status/1286349473413771265
Kblaze8855
07-24-2020, 06:31 AM
Most UK retailers have come out and said that despite it being a law to wear face masks in shops starting from Friday that they won't pressure customers who come in without wearing one.
I don't really get what's the point of making these laws when most people are not going to follow them :oldlol:
You walk into your local grocery store and 75% of us are not wearing masks & most people I have spoken to don't like the idea of wearing them period
Thank God I don't live in America where the security guard can literally throw you out of Walmart for not having a mask :facepalm
If I say you can’t come into my house with shoes on....but you do...I can ask you to leave. It doesn’t violate your rights. You’re on my property. Your freedom of expression ends at my doorway....and it kinda has to...or what’s the point of ownership? If you can do what you want on my property because “freedom” it would defeat the purpose of owning it.
A store asking you to leave is perfectly reasonable. The government trying to make an entire population wear one....ive not heard a good argument for why that’s legal yet.
It’s in the public good...but it seems to leave wiggle room to argue from a first amendment pov.
On the street....feels like maybe it’s my right to decide. In someone’s home or business....no. It’s not my right at all. I can comply or gtfo.
Nanners
07-24-2020, 06:52 AM
If I say you can’t come into my house with shoes on....but you do...I can ask you to leave. It doesn’t violate your rights. You’re on my property. Your freedom of expression ends at my doorway....and it kinda has to...or what’s the point of ownership? If you can do what you want on my property because “freedom” it would defeat the purpose of owning it.
A store asking you to leave is perfectly reasonable. The government trying to make an entire population wear one....ive not heard a good argument for why that’s legal yet.
It’s in the public good...but it seems to leave wiggle room to argue from a first amendment pov.
On the street....feels like maybe it’s my right to decide. In someone’s home or business....no. It’s not my right at all. I can comply or gtfo.
You are 100% within your legal right to require anyone who enters your house to wear whatever clothing you wish... but businesses have to operate within certain laws (like the ADA), so requiring masks within businesses is kind of a grey area legally (which is why almost all of the mask rules are actually "suggestions" rather than legal mandates).
A business can only turn away customers who refuse to wear a mask if that business provides similar or equivalent services to people who cannot wear a mask for medical reasons (and they arent allowed to ask why a person cant wear a mask). This means that a grocery store could only deny entry to an anti-masker as long as they also offer curb-side pickup or something... they cannot just blanket refuse service to people without masks.
Kblaze8855
07-24-2020, 11:58 AM
There is so much conflicting information out there. I was considering going to Cincinnati over the weekend and so I read up on the statewide Ohio mandate and they have a list of things they call misinformation. Like a business not being allowed to ask exactly why you cant wear a mask. It explained that a lot of the usually used laws apply very narrowly. This particular one is often cited by people who have emotional support animals and try to bring them into grocery stores. They say its a service animal and you cant legally ask for proof....but...supposedly you can.
The whole thing is confusing and exhausting.
Patrick Chewing
07-24-2020, 12:01 PM
No confusion at my place of business. You wear a mask, I will politely ask you to remove it. Paranoia, hysteria, psychosis, fear-mongering, and TDS do not exist within my dojo.
Nanners
07-24-2020, 12:06 PM
There is so much conflicting information out there. I was considering going to Cincinnati over the weekend and so I read up on the statewide Ohio mandate and they have a list of things they call misinformation. Like a business not being allowed to ask exactly why you cant wear a mask. It explained that a lot of the usually used laws apply very narrowly. This particular one is often cited by people who have emotional support animals and try to bring them into grocery stores. They say its a service animal and you cant legally ask for proof....but...supposedly you can.
The whole thing is confusing and exhausting.
No doubt theres a lot of conflicting info out there
Technically you can ask any customer any question you want... including proof of their supposed disability, but the customer has no obligation to answer, and any business that forces customers to answer specific questions about how/why they are covered under the ADA is running the risk of getting sued
Nanners
07-24-2020, 12:06 PM
No confusion at my place of business. You wear a mask, I will politely ask you to remove it. Paranoia, hysteria, psychosis, fear-mongering, and TDS do not exist within my dojo.
:applause:
I dunno what you are selling, but I want to buy it
Kblaze8855
07-24-2020, 12:51 PM
Now that is a question worth exploring. Can a business ask you to break the law on their property? If the state or county or whatever mandates masks....can a business owner ban them from his store?
The obvious repercussion would be loss of business license after a number of fines but...would he have any leg to stand on fighting that result?
bladefd
07-24-2020, 01:06 PM
No confusion at my place of business. You wear a mask, I will politely ask you to remove it. Paranoia, hysteria, psychosis, fear-mongering, and TDS do not exist within my dojo.
I don't believe you for a moment.
Either a) you in fact require a mask or b) you don't own a store. One of the two.
bladefd
07-24-2020, 01:08 PM
Now that is a question worth exploring. Can a business ask you to break the law on their property? If the state or county or whatever mandates masks....can a business owner ban them from his store?
The obvious repercussion would be loss of business license after a number of fines but...would he have any leg to stand on fighting that result?
There are many stores here that refuse to let you in if you are not wearing a mask. No questions asked. Nobody is saying that is illegal or going to court with that store..
Patrick Chewing
07-24-2020, 01:11 PM
I don't believe you for a moment.
Either a) you in fact require a mask or b) you don't own a store. One of the two.
You, primetme, and all the Libs only see in Black and White. There's only two worlds. Two planes of existence.
Why can't it be Option C? That maybe I don't give a **** what you're wearing?? :lol
Why do business owners have to "require" a patron wear a mask?
No confusion at my place of business. You wear a mask, I will politely ask you to remove it. Paranoia, hysteria, psychosis, fear-mongering, and TDS do not exist within my dojo.
:applause:
JEFFERSON MONEY
07-24-2020, 03:01 PM
Canada is reckless. It's legal to get oral from the family pet. I assume Trudeau made it so, due to all the 1st world genius Mussies that love to rape women and children, this way they just need peanut butter and a goat, s'all good in Canada.
What beautiful eyebrows you've got Tammuz. I mean Trudeau... also born December 25th. Ironically, his father was a nimrod too.
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Justin Trudeau is all religions
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You transgressing scoundrel.
You do realize that Muslims are only permitted to have sexual relations in marriage right? And everything else is off limits including the atrocious things you falsely accused them of.
So why are you saying such disgusting things about them?
Watch your mouth. It will lead to your destruction.
TheMan
07-24-2020, 05:27 PM
:applause:
I dunno what you are selling, but I want to buy it
You actually believe his bullshit story? Lol
BTW, what he is selling is his manpussy
msbutthurt
07-24-2020, 05:43 PM
You transgressing scoundrel.
You do realize that Muslims are only permitted to have sexual relations in marriage right? And everything else is off limits including the atrocious things you falsely accused them of.
So why are you saying such disgusting things about them?
Watch your mouth. It will lead to your destruction.
lol
It will only lead to my destruction if somebody from the death pedo cult kills me for words.
msbutthurt
07-24-2020, 05:47 PM
Face mask U-turn: Walmart, Home Depot, Walgreens and CVS are among stores saying they WILL serve customers who don't wear masks despite announcing face coverings were mandatory
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8557749/Walmart-Home-Depot-Walgreens-CVS-serve-customers-dont-wear-masks.html
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Face mask U-turn: Walmart, Home Depot, Walgreens and CVS are among stores saying they WILL serve customers who don't wear masks despite announcing face coverings were mandatory
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8557749/Walmart-Home-Depot-Walgreens-CVS-serve-customers-dont-wear-masks.html
https://i.imgur.com/fFAtCVm.gif
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Like it should be :applause:
UK grocery stores are the same, I went today without a mask and no one questioned me.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/face-masks-rules-supermarkets-refuse-asda-tesco-sainsburys-iceland-aldi-coronavirus-a9635731.html
Nanners
07-24-2020, 06:28 PM
Like it should be :applause:
UK grocery stores are the same, I went today without a mask and no one questioned me.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/face-masks-rules-supermarkets-refuse-asda-tesco-sainsburys-iceland-aldi-coronavirus-a9635731.html
:oldlol:
half of the idiots I went to high school with have been posting daily rants on facebook about how the US is the laughing stock of the world (lol) because were supposedly the only country where some people refuse to wear masks...
Patrick Chewing
07-24-2020, 08:31 PM
Face mask U-turn: Walmart, Home Depot, Walgreens and CVS are among stores saying they WILL serve customers who don't wear masks despite announcing face coverings were mandatory
VICTORY!!!
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I deal with home improvement stores, so maybe word of my refusal to serve customers in masks made the rounds. I’d like to think I had a part to play in this. Very proud of myself.
BurningHammer
07-24-2020, 08:40 PM
:oldlol:
half of the idiots I went to high school with have been posting daily rants on facebook about how the US is the laughing stock of the world (lol) because were supposedly the only country where some people refuse to wear masks...
Ain't it well-deserved so? :confusedshrug:
n00bie
07-24-2020, 09:03 PM
:oldlol:
half of the idiots I went to high school with have been posting daily rants on facebook about how the US is the laughing stock of the world (lol) because were supposedly the only country where some people refuse to wear masks...
I'm not laughing at you guys but I gotta say the U.S. is very entertaining right now.
Shlts better than a movie.
No confusion at my place of business. You wear a mask, I will politely ask you to remove it. Paranoia, hysteria, psychosis, fear-mongering, and TDS do not exist within my dojo.
This sounds a lot like martial law
Gabe Ball
07-24-2020, 10:23 PM
Like it should be :applause:
UK grocery stores are the same, I went today without a mask and no one questioned me.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/face-masks-rules-supermarkets-refuse-asda-tesco-sainsburys-iceland-aldi-coronavirus-a9635731.html
Can you explain why it's better not to wear a mask? (Genuine Question)
I know wearing a mask has its own problems on the wearer (don't exactly know the specific problems) but they do help reduce spread. Are the health drawbacks posed by a mask greater than the benefits of reducing spread to warrant not wearing a mask?
Patrick Chewing
07-24-2020, 10:38 PM
This sounds a lot like martial law
They’re free to leave.
They’re free to leave.
Good thing lol
4pointshot
07-24-2020, 10:52 PM
No common sense or compassion at my place of business. You wear a mask, I will politely ask you to remove it. Evidence-based actions and concern for others do not exist within my dojo, though paranoia, hysteria, psychosis and fear-mongering over loss of freedom certainly do.
Fixed.
Can you explain why it's better not to wear a mask? (Genuine Question)
I know wearing a mask has its own problems on the wearer (don't exactly know the specific problems) but they do help reduce spread. Are the health drawbacks posed by a mask greater than the benefits of reducing spread to warrant not wearing a mask?
It should be the choice of the individual wether they want to wear a mask or not
The virus is well past it's peak here and pretty much gone so the idea of forcing people to wear masks now but not during the actual peak of the virus is stupid
+ I have yet to see any data showing that wearing a paper mask around your mouth is actually effective. I see a lot of people wearing reused dirty masks around their mouth because they can't afford to wear a fresh clean mask every time they leave their home.
4pointshot
07-25-2020, 04:08 AM
It should be the choice of the individual wether they want to wear a mask or not
It should be the choice of individuals whether they wear seat belts or not.
It should be the choice of individuals whether they stop at red lights or not.
It should be the choice of individuals whether they obey speed limits or not.
It should be the choice of individuals whether they use public restrooms or not.
It should be the choice of individuals whether they wear body masks (also known as clothes) or not.
The virus is well past it's peak here and pretty much gone so the idea of forcing people to wear masks now but not during the actual peak of the virus is stupid
Where in the world do you get the idea that the virus is past its peak? Cases are higher today than they were in April.
+ I have yet to see any data showing that wearing a paper mask around your mouth is actually effective. I see a lot of people wearing reused dirty masks around their mouth because they can't afford to wear a fresh clean mask every time they leave their home.
Who's talking about paper masks? We're talking about cloth masks and surgical masks, and there is reams of evidence proving they block a large fraction of the virus.
Nope there is literally no evidence whatsoever that suggests that masks are effective, especially when you're talking about those cheap 50 cent cloth masks that most people are wearing
4pointshot
07-25-2020, 05:22 AM
Nope there is literally no evidence whatsoever that suggests that masks are effective, especially when you're talking about those cheap 50 cent cloth masks that most people are wearing
If you're too lazy or too much in denial to find the evidence, I'm not going to bother to show it to you. A lot people in the U.S., particularly on the right, think they know more than science knows. They are almost always wrong. Which doesn't stop them, of course, from hypocritically enjoying the fruits of science when it shows or produces something they want.
TheMan
07-25-2020, 05:30 AM
Nope there is literally no evidence whatsoever that suggests that masks are effective, especially when you're talking about those cheap 50 cent cloth masks that most people are wearing
You're such a moron lol
You're such a moron lol
Since his birth lmao
If you're too lazy or too much in denial to find the evidence, I'm not going to bother to show it to you. A lot people in the U.S., particularly on the right, think they know more than science knows. They are almost always wrong. Which doesn't stop them, of course, from hypocritically enjoying the fruits of science when it shows or produces something they want.
You're not going to "bother to show" because there isn't any :oldlol:
You're such a moron lol
You support a child molester.
4pointshot
07-25-2020, 06:29 AM
You're not going to "bother to show" because there isn't any :oldlol:
I shouldn't bother with this, because some of it has already been posted upthread. I do understand that you're probably just trolling, and don't have a serious interest in this, but for others who missed it before, maybe this will be helpful:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7341689/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7263076/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7228401/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32329337/
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext
From the link you just posted
research shows that cloth materials offer limited protection from particles in the size regime of SARS-COV2.1
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4pointshot
07-25-2020, 07:26 AM
From the link you just posted
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Yes, prior research. Those studies were all carried out before SARS-CoV-2 was even discovered. Their reference to that means that those previous studies found limited protection from particles in certain size ranges. But that doesn't mean much, since viral particles are always associated with other material. E.g., a single SARS-CoV-2 virion has a diameter of about .125 micron, give or take. But virus emitted by breathing or coughing is associated with particles much larger than this, and in fact, the larger particles will be more infectious, as they can contain more virus. None of this was appreciated until very recently.
If you go through the other links, they all report that cloth masks have some effect, and some are actually as good as N95.
Face mask study done in Asia
Background: Health care workers outside surgical suites in Asia use surgical-type face masks commonly. Prevention of upper respiratory infection is one reason given, although evidence of effectiveness is lacking.
Methods: Health care workers in a tertiary care hospital in Japan were randomized into 2 groups: 1 that wore face masks and 1 that did not. They provided information about demographics, health habits, and quality of life. Participants recorded symptoms daily for 77 consecutive days, starting in January 2008. Presence of a cold was determined based on a previously validated measure of self-reported symptoms. The number of colds between groups was compared, as were risk factors for experiencing cold symptoms.
Results: Thirty-two health care workers completed the study, resulting in 2464 subject days. There were 2 colds during this time period, 1 in each group. Of the 8 symptoms recorded daily, subjects in the mask group were significantly more likely to experience headache during the study period (P < .05). Subjects living with children were more likely to have high cold severity scores over the course of the study.
Conclusion: Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.
Another study to prove masks don't do anything https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/j.1750-2659.2011.00307.x
4pointshot
07-25-2020, 07:33 AM
Conclusion: Face mask use in health care workers has not been demonstrated to provide benefit in terms of cold symptoms or getting colds. A larger study is needed to definitively establish noninferiority of no mask use.
Studies like this only look at the ability of the mask to protect the wearer, whereas recent work has emphasized the importance of protecting others from the wearer. Very few studies have looked at this, because such studies can't be carried out in lab environments.
You will also note that they didn't conclude masks didn't work, only that they couldn't find an effect. More recent studies have found an effect.
Another study to prove masks don't do anything https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...9.2011.00307.x
In 2011! As I said, this work is more recent.
The physical evidence is overwhelming, i.e., that cloth masks of certain design can block a large proportion of particles in certain size ranges. The biological evidence has been ambiguous, but the last link I provided is a meta-study.
Manny is dumber than a sack of hammers. Good grief.
Studies like this only look at the ability of the mask to protect the wearer, whereas recent work has emphasized the importance of protecting others from the wearer. Very few studies have looked at this, because such studies can't be carried out in lab environments.
You will also note that they didn't conclude masks didn't work, only that they couldn't find an effect. More recent studies have found an effect.
In 2011! As I said, this work is more recent.
The physical evidence is overwhelming, i.e., that cloth masks of certain design can block a large proportion of particles in certain size ranges. The biological evidence has been ambiguous, but the last link I provided is a meta-study.
So we can agree that Masks don't protect you and their ability to slow the spread of a virus is minimal at best?
Manny is dumber than a sack of hammers. Good grief.
Pipe down the adults are talking
JEFFERSON MONEY
07-25-2020, 11:14 AM
Masks and sanitizers can not protect anyone from corona.
If you're mean to catch corona, you can hide in a bubble with all the PPE possible on an isolated tall tower with no germs and you will STILL GET IT.
Conversely, if you're not meant to get it. You can eat out of the same bowl as someone with corona and you WON'T GET IT.
Patrick Chewing
07-25-2020, 11:25 AM
Masks and sanitizers can not protect anyone from corona.
If you're mean to catch corona, you can hide in a bubble with all the PPE possible on an isolated tall tower with no germs and you will STILL GET IT.
Conversely, if you're not meant to get it. You can eat out of the same bowl as someone with corona and you WON'T GET IT.
Thank you. You see, us religious folk are pretty damn smart.
Masks are for the sheep. And we all know the sheep are led to slaughter by the devil himself.
Elders from tropical islands thought the sunlight could neutralize corona but guess what? Nothing happened. The virus still lives on.
Rooster
07-25-2020, 02:47 PM
Masks and sanitizers can not protect anyone from corona.
If you're mean to catch corona, you can hide in a bubble with all the PPE possible on an isolated tall tower with no germs and you will STILL GET IT.
Conversely, if you're not meant to get it. You can eat out of the same bowl as someone with corona and you WON'T GET IT.
Lol Voodoo science and bro science.
Rooster
07-25-2020, 02:52 PM
Elders from tropical islands thought the sunlight could neutralize corona but guess what? Nothing happened. The virus still lives on.
This one mutates and adapt better. While Flu is rare on summer, this virus is for all season brah. Winter season will be nasty to all the unfits. Even the young healthy ones surviving this is now feeling chronic fatigue. Must be blood clots complications blocking the blood flow. So in other words, pepper your angus.
bladefd
07-25-2020, 03:59 PM
Masks and sanitizers can not protect anyone from corona.
If you're mean to catch corona, you can hide in a bubble with all the PPE possible on an isolated tall tower with no germs and you will STILL GET IT.
Conversely, if you're not meant to get it. You can eat out of the same bowl as someone with corona and you WON'T GET IT.
Seems you are far ahead of the science curve and you know all the ins and outs of infectious diseases/viruses. So, Jefferson, does prayer protect you from coronavirus? Can a very religious person get coronavirus?
LAmbruh
07-25-2020, 06:11 PM
McDonald’s Says ‘No Mask, No Hamburgers’
https://deadline.com/2020/07/mcdonalds-says-no-mask-no-hamburgers-in-new-ruling-on-face-coverings-1202995036/
Poor Donny :(
https://i.insider.com/57ab768fce38f234008b5ea0?width=989&format=jpeg
https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/c_fill,g_auto,w_1200,h_675,ar_16:9/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets %2F190115112015-trump-mcdonalds.jpg
This one mutates and adapt better. While Flu is rare on summer, this virus is for all season brah. Winter season will be nasty to all the unfits. Even the young healthy ones surviving this is now feeling chronic fatigue. Must be blood clots complications blocking the blood flow. So in other words, pepper your angus.
Yikes but yeah, looks like wearing masks doesn't change any shit tho. And wearing one that has a small filter/valve is considered as wearing nothing at all.
Seems you are far ahead of the science curve and you know all the ins and outs of infectious diseases/viruses. So, Jefferson, does prayer protect you from coronavirus? Can a very religious person get coronavirus?
He's probably under Jehovah's great protection while the rest of us aren't. :(
Found this gem browsing Reddit
https://youtu.be/prujdWuCxa8
I love how this clown has completely changed his tune of the course of a couple of months
These politicians know damm well that wearing a mask does f*ck. This is all about control and getting people to comply with these Draconian measures
4pointshot
07-25-2020, 07:19 PM
So we can agree that Masks don't protect you and their ability to slow the spread of a virus is minimal at best?
No, and btw, I didn't have time last night to point out that the first study you posted is meaningless, because only one cold was reported in the control group. In order to have a meaningful comparision between masks and no masks, there has to be a significant number of control sicknesses. To illustrate the problem by going to the logical extreme, suppose you tested the effect of masks on preventing C19 in 2019, before it had even emerged. Obviously, you would conclude there was no effect of masks, because there was no C19 to have any effect on. The first study you posted is basically like that.
I will say that there are other, better studies which also show no conclusive effect of masks. Your second link is an example. But they still reported effects on some cases, and again, all or almost all of these studies examined only the effect on the wearer. The effect on the people the wearer comes into contact with is thought to be much greater, but it's hard to study this, and in the past very few if any studies have looked at it. There was one very recently that did, and concluded that masks have a very large effect, but it has methodological problems, so I won't discuss it.
It's true that no mask will block all particles in the air, so every mask provides only "limited protection". But that's better than none, because infection requires a certain amount of virions, thought to be maybe around one hundred, but it could be more or less, and masks will increase the odds that the wearer exhales fewer of these viruses into the air near others. In fact, studies have shown that the very small particles that masks are particularly needed for carry at most only one virus, so a large number of these particles would have to be inhaled to become infected. By cutting down on the concentration of such particles in the air, masks will definitely decrease the odds of getting infected.
I love how this clown has completely changed his tune of the course of a couple of months
With regard to Fauci, at the time he said not to wear masks, it was thought by most researchers that C19 is spread primarily by large droplets that settle out of the air very quickly. Masks are not needed to protect against these. It's only in the past several months, that research has shown that smaller, aerosols can also carry the virus, making masks more useful. It was also not appreciated at the time of the Fauci interview that masks can have a much larger effect protecting others from the wearer, instead of vice-versa. Once these two factors became widely accepted, the argument for masks became much stronger.
Rooster
07-25-2020, 07:28 PM
Yikes but yeah, looks like wearing masks doesn't change any shit tho. And wearing one that has a small filter/valve is considered as wearing nothing at all.
Hmmm. ThatÂ’s fact vs fiction.
Let me put it this way
19 states has not mandated any face covering. The virus has surged in most of these states, with nine of the 19 states yet to issue a mask mandate reporting a greater than 10% (https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-infections-spread-florida-california-texas-94aacba0-7351-42ec-b1f1-74d6dd3ef5c6.html) rise in new infections over the last seven days: Idaho, Alaska, Wyoming, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Missouri, Tennessee, Mississippi, and New Hampshire.
Others like Florida, Arizona, Georgia , South Carolina etc has had record rising new cases since then Only South Dakota has slowed down since the shutdown.
California statewide mandated it June 18 and Texas July 3.
Now tell me how cases went up.
But believe whatever you want to believe. If we deal with this politically, we will never slow this virus like other countries have.
Rooster
07-25-2020, 07:41 PM
No, and btw, I didn't have time last night to point out that the first study you posted is meaningless, because only one cold was reported in the control group. In order to have a meaningful comparision between masks and no masks, there has to be a significant number of control sicknesses. To illustrate the problem by going to the logical extreme, suppose you tested the effect of masks on preventing C19 in 2019, before it had even emerged. Obviously, you would conclude there was no effect of masks, because there was no C19 to have any effect on. The first study you posted is basically like that.
I will say that there are other, better studies which also show no effect of masks. Your second link is an example. But again, all or most of them examine only the effect on the wearer. The effect on the people the wearer comes into contact with is thought to be much greater, but it's hard to study this, and in the past very few if any studies have looked at it. There was one very recently that did, and concluded that masks have a very large effect, but it has methodological problems, so I won't discuss it.
It's true that no mask will block all particles in the air, so every mask provides only "limited protection". But that's better than none, because infection requires a certain amount of virions, thought to be maybe around one hundred, but it could be more or less, and masks will increase the odds that the wearer exhales fewer of these viruses into the air near others. In fact, studies have shown that the very small particles that masks are particularly needed for carry at most only one virus, so a large number of these particles would have to be inhaled to become infected. By cutting down on the concentration of such particles in the air, masks will definitely decrease the odds of getting infected.
With regard to Fauci, at the time he said not to wear masks, it was thought by most researchers that C19 is spread primarily by large droplets that settle out of the air very quickly. Masks are not needed to protect against these. It's only in the past several months, that research has shown that smaller, aerosols can also carry the virus, making masks more useful. It was also not appreciated at the time of the Fauci interview that masks can have a much larger effect protecting others from the wearer, instead of vice-versa. Once these two factors became widely accepted, the argument for masks became much stronger.
No need to make it complicated, this was a droplet and can evolve into airborne but who knows. Like I said virus is unpredictable. Anyway, You can pull all the mask research studies about Covid and face covering but let me put it this way, It easy to fool Stupid people but it’s harder to convince stupid people that they are being fooled ( not wearing mask).
Hmmm. ThatÂ’s fact vs fiction.
Let me put it this way
19 states has not mandated any face covering. The virus has surged in most of these states, with nine of the 19 states yet to issue a mask mandate reporting a greater than 10% (https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-infections-spread-florida-california-texas-94aacba0-7351-42ec-b1f1-74d6dd3ef5c6.html) rise in new infections over the last seven days: Idaho, Alaska, Wyoming, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Missouri, Tennessee, Mississippi, and New Hampshire.
Others like Florida, Arizona, Georgia , South Carolina etc has had record rising new cases since then Only South Dakota has slowed down since the shutdown.
California statewide mandated it June 18 and Texas July 3.
Now tell me how cases went up.
But believe whatever you want to believe. If we deal with this politically, we will never slow this virus like other countries have.
Lol i was only pointing out what some other posters in this board would believe
Honestly, I've been wearing masks for how many months already because it's mandatory in our workplace. Otherwise, wouldn't be allowed to work. The only thing i don't like with it is that you're obligated to wear a different one each day. Thus, would need at least more than 10 of them or so.
Gabe Ball
07-25-2020, 10:32 PM
Lol i was only pointing out what some other posters in this board would believe
Honestly, I've been wearing masks for how many months already because it's mandatory in our workplace. Otherwise, wouldn't be allowed to work. The only thing i don't like with it is that you're obligated to wear a different one each day. Thus, would need at least more than 10 of them or so.
That's tough, I've read that the disposable masks are bad for the environment since you'll be using so many that it creates an excess amount of trash to deal with. It seems that reusable masks are the go-to, but do they allow you to use reusable masks or does it have to be disposable ones?
dude77
07-25-2020, 11:36 PM
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That's tough, I've read that the disposable masks are bad for the environment since you'll be using so many that it creates an excess amount of trash to deal with. It seems that reusable masks are the go-to, but do they allow you to use reusable masks or does it have to be disposable ones?
Not only that but the disposable ones you're talking about are more expensive, especially for something that's good for how many days only although either of them are allowed. However, personal/reusable masks are more useful because like i said, at least you won't be thinking of replacement or something like that.
LAmbruh
07-26-2020, 12:15 PM
First day of mandatory masks at Walmart
https://i.redd.it/bewzbdc763d51.jpg
:yaohappy:
n00bie
07-26-2020, 12:22 PM
Hmmm. ThatÂ’s fact vs fiction.
Let me put it this way
19 states has not mandated any face covering. The virus has surged in most of these states, with nine of the 19 states yet to issue a mask mandate reporting a greater than 10% (https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-infections-spread-florida-california-texas-94aacba0-7351-42ec-b1f1-74d6dd3ef5c6.html) rise in new infections over the last seven days: Idaho, Alaska, Wyoming, North Dakota, Wisconsin, Missouri, Tennessee, Mississippi, and New Hampshire.
Others like Florida, Arizona, Georgia , South Carolina etc has had record rising new cases since then Only South Dakota has slowed down since the shutdown.
California statewide mandated it June 18 and Texas July 3.
Now tell me how cases went up.
But believe whatever you want to believe. If we deal with this politically, we will never slow this virus like other countries have.
The same could be said about why every Asian mask wearing country was able to control this virus.
But of course the conspiracy theorists will think the countries are hiding their covid numbers.
I don't think that wearing a mask when you are in a closed area is such a big problem, so why not? If they prevent to spread the pandemic you gain a lot, if they are not effective you just lose a bit of comfort wearing it. :)
ELITEpower23
07-26-2020, 07:19 PM
First day of mandatory masks at Walmart
https://i.redd.it/bewzbdc763d51.jpg
:yaohappy:
Jesus what a train wreck shit show :lol
msbutthurt
07-26-2020, 07:44 PM
First day of mandatory masks at Walmart
https://i.redd.it/bewzbdc763d51.jpg
:yaohappy:
They have the support of black athletes.
n00bie
07-26-2020, 08:12 PM
I don't think that wearing a mask when you are in a closed area is such a big problem, so why not? If they prevent to spread the pandemic you gain a lot, if they are not effective you just lose a bit of comfort wearing it. :)
Some people on this board think the government is enforcing masks because it represents BDM.
They think the government want to Jack off at the sight of us with masks on.
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