View Full Version : Does LBJ win his 5th MVP?
Shooter
07-18-2020, 11:51 AM
Second oldest to lead the league in assists
One of only 9 players ever to have 25 and 10 in a season
ONE seed in the Wild West. I heard the East is weak is this tru?
Kblaze8855
07-18-2020, 11:56 AM
Obviously not. Giannis wins. The end.
Shooter
07-18-2020, 12:15 PM
Obviously not. Giannis wins. The end.
You really think LeBron has no chance? What is the Bucks record with Giannis and Lakers record without LeBron?
Poetry
07-18-2020, 12:59 PM
Giannis has a 50% chance to win. LeBron has a 17% chance and his teammate has a 10% chance to win.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html
I was tracking it all year. LeBron's percentage started to trend upward late in the season, but Giannis was at 50-70% almost all season long.
If LeBron were to win, it would also be one of the rare instances in which a player won the MVP while only having the second highest PER on his team. I think Steve Nash was the last to win it that way.
Shooter
07-18-2020, 03:20 PM
Giannis has a 50% chance to win. LeBron has a 17% chance and his teammate has a 10% chance to win.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/mvp.html
I was tracking it all year. LeBron's percentage started to trend upward late in the season, but Giannis was at 50-70% almost all season long.
If LeBron were to win, it would also be one of the rare instances in which a player won the MVP while only having the second highest PER on his team. I think Steve Nash was the last to win it that way.
Team leading VORP
LBJ: 5.7
HBK_Kliq_2
07-18-2020, 03:44 PM
Giannis gets reg season MVP. Kawhi gets finals MVP. LeBron gets a nice pat on the shoulder for good effort.
Kawhi/Giannis are this era's version of Shaq/Duncan. Lebron's old ass needs to stay out of this.
Shooter
07-18-2020, 03:46 PM
Giannis gets reg season MVP. Kawhi gets finals MVP. LeBron gets a nice pat on the shoulder for good effort.
Kawhi/Giannis are this era's version of Shaq/Duncan. Lebron's old ass needs to stay out of this.
Kawhi has never led the league in VORP. LeBron has done it 9 times. Will Kawhi get ONE in his entire career?
warriorfan
07-18-2020, 03:48 PM
Kawhi has never led the league in VORP. LeBron has done it 9 times. Will Kawhi get ONE in his entire career?
He would rather play defense than worry about half baked advanced stats.
HBK_Kliq_2
07-18-2020, 03:52 PM
Team leading VORP
LBJ: 5.7
Giannis has higher VORP then LeBron despite playing nearly 300 less minutes, so I'm not sure why you think that's your argument.
HBK_Kliq_2
07-18-2020, 03:53 PM
Kawhi has never led the league in VORP. LeBron has done it 9 times. Will Kawhi get ONE in his entire career?
At least Kawhi never lost in the playoffs while playing with the playoff leader in VORP like LeBron did in 2011.
Bronbron23
07-18-2020, 04:13 PM
Probably not. I think it will be greek. If bron does get it though it will be well deserved.
Phoenix
07-18-2020, 04:56 PM
Nah. Giannis is doing like 2000 Shaq numbers in 32mpg. Record PER. Only way Lebron would have gotten MVP is 1) Giannis pace tailed off 2) the team had a late year slide 3) in combination with 1 and 2, the 'age' narrative. Basically when the season abruptly halted in March ANY shot of a late season push that would usurp Giannis ended.
Remember when LeBron completely humiliated Giannis in front of the world before the lockdown?
https://youtu.be/3o9zOzmG6BY
This game cemented the MVP for GOAT James imo, Giannis has the better overall stats but LeBron showed out more in the games vs comp
Phoenix
07-18-2020, 05:26 PM
They're 1-1 this season.
Randomly won matchups isn't what decides this. It's who has the best overall body of work and if they happen to be on the best team? It's gonna take a unique case to get around that. Like Westbrook in 2017.
They're 1-1 this season.
Randomly won matchups isn't what decides this. It's who has the best overall body of work and if they happen to be on the best team? It's gonna take a unique case to get around that. Like Westbrook in 2017.
Bucks are like 6-0 without Giannis this season
If we're talking "most valuable" then it's easily LeBron. Lakers also have the best record against teams above .500 in the NBA
Phoenix
07-18-2020, 05:40 PM
Bookmark this thread until the results come out. Regardless of how you think it's going to go off your own biases, you're going to be disappointed. I don't care who wins the MVP. I'm just telling you this shits been in the bag since the new year and Lebron's been climbing uphill since. He closed the gap slightly, that's about it.
kawhileonard2
07-18-2020, 06:34 PM
If anyone is MVP on the Lakers it is Anthony Davis
At least Kawhi never lost in the playoffs while playing with the playoff leader in VORP like LeBron did in 2011.
Kawhi's blessed to have played for stacked teams and great coaches in the last decade.
72-10
07-18-2020, 07:38 PM
This man's setting records left and right there's so many that I think there's some we don't even get to see.
Roundball_Rock
07-18-2020, 07:45 PM
The only scenario I see LeBron winning it is if Giannis misses the final 8 games (already has missed a few) and the Lakers finish with the best record. Otherwise, LeBron will finish 2nd.
If he doesn't decline in 2021 he should have a good shot then because voter fatigue will prevent Giannis from winning in 21'.
Phoenix
07-18-2020, 08:14 PM
The only scenario I see LeBron winning it is if Giannis misses the final 8 games (already has missed a few) and the Lakers finish with the best record. Otherwise, LeBron will finish 2nd.
If he doesn't decline in 2021 he should have a good shot then because voter fatigue will prevent Giannis from winning in 21'.
The NBA just came out to say the race for all season awards is over, so the remaining 8 games don't count towards it:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2020/07/17/2019-20-nba-awards-individual-races-over
Basically whoever wins MVP and all other awards is based on what they did up till March when the league suspended play.
NBAGOAT
07-18-2020, 09:18 PM
vegas has giannis at a 97.2% probability to win so yea this is over lol. I dont think it'll be close to unanimous however. lebron+others will get like 10-15.
Roundball_Rock
07-18-2020, 10:06 PM
The NBA just came out to say the race for all season awards is over, so the remaining 8 games don't count towards it:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nba.com/amp/league/article/2020/07/17/2019-20-nba-awards-individual-races-over
Basically whoever wins MVP and all other awards is based on what they did up till March when the league suspended play.
Thanks. I hadn't seen that. That is BS but if so, Giannis is MVP with LeBron's outside shot extinguished.
Whoah10115
07-18-2020, 10:13 PM
Vorp is a funny word.
light
07-19-2020, 12:44 AM
LeBron definitely should win his 5th MVP.
The degree of difficulty for what he's done is through the roof and surpasses everyone else.
light
07-19-2020, 12:45 AM
Vorp is a funny word.
Vorp is Quark's and Rom's brother.
light
07-19-2020, 12:53 AM
Here's the thing.
LeBron is a general manager, coach and a player.
Giannis is just a player.
It's really no contest. LeBron is far and away the true MVP of this season...
Not only for his brilliant on court performance (a graybeard dominating the likes of Giannis and Kawahi), but also because he put the f-ing team together and coached them up as well.
No contest.
dbugz
07-19-2020, 02:18 AM
How can you be an MVP if you're not even the best player on your team and only 2nd option to AD?
Shooter
07-19-2020, 02:31 AM
How can you be an MVP if you're not even the best player on your team and only 2nd option to AD?
Get this man a tissue, he hurt bad :lol
dbugz
07-19-2020, 02:33 AM
Get this man a tissue, he hurt bad :lol
got boy triggered again haha, as always
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I'm done :roll:
Shooter
07-19-2020, 02:35 AM
got boy triggered again haha, as always
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I'm done :roll:
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Real14
07-19-2020, 01:33 PM
My guy Kblaze:applause:
akproductions
07-19-2020, 02:23 PM
No, Giannis is better.
Gileraracer
07-20-2020, 09:18 AM
lebron missed the POs just a year ago. If a lakers player should win MVP, it's AD
bullettooth
07-20-2020, 09:58 AM
You really think LeBron has no chance? What is the Bucks record with Giannis and Lakers record without LeBron?
Lakers failed to make the playoffs with LeBald last year. What changed this year?
bullettooth
07-20-2020, 09:59 AM
lebron missed the POs just a year ago. If a lakers player should win MVP, it's AD
This.
Shooter
07-20-2020, 10:23 AM
Lakers failed to make the playoffs with LeBald last year. What changed this year?
No injury this year.
kawhileonard2
07-20-2020, 10:19 PM
lebron missed the POs just a year ago. If a lakers player should win MVP, it's AD
Yep
WhiteKyrie
07-20-2020, 10:55 PM
MVP - Giannis
DPOY - AD
ROY - Morant
COY - Nurse
6th MOY - Harell
MIP - Ingram
Gileraracer
07-22-2020, 06:24 AM
No injury this year.
Like the fake hand injury in 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1nr4k3ZcIA
Lebron never runs out of excuses
Uncle Drew
07-22-2020, 06:36 AM
If journalists and other voters had the slightest slice of objectivity running through their veins LeBron would win MVP this year. That said, I can understand they didn't vote for him. First of all, if they were objective LeBron would win every year, which isn't good for the sport. Second of all, LeBron's greatness has been his own downfall. He's been elite in the NBA the very second he got drafted. He's been so good that his greatness has become regular, and the abnormal is no longer abnormal. Any other player posting that line would run away with MVP.
ImKobe
07-22-2020, 07:50 AM
No injury this year.
28 - 27 last year, 47 - 13 this year
what changed?
28 - 27 last year, 47 - 13 this year
what changed?
He just answered you moron :oldlol:
LeBron suffered a near career ending groin injury last season so it doesn't count
Now that he's fully healthy Lakers are dominiating
Uncle Drew
07-22-2020, 08:20 AM
He just answered you moron :oldlol:
LeBron suffered a near career ending groin injury last season so it doesn't count
Now that he's fully healthy Lakers are dominiating
Also, there's no more Ball and Ingraham on this team anymore. Addition by subtraction.
LAmbruh
07-22-2020, 08:22 AM
Also, there's no more Ball and Ingraham on this team anymore. Addition by subtraction.
Bing-o was his name-o :applause:
He just answered you moron :oldlol:
LeBron suffered a near career ending groin injury last season so it doesn't count
Now that he's fully healthy Lakers are dominiating
Since when did you even become a lakers fan huh?
AirBonner
07-22-2020, 08:35 PM
LeMVP
Shooter
07-22-2020, 10:07 PM
Bing-o was his name-o :applause:
:rockon:
OrlandoMagicGuy
07-22-2020, 10:55 PM
Giannis will probably win it,outside of him L36ron more than likely even though his teammate Anthony Davis was leading in all categories except assists for the Lakers.Plus he has a huge impact on the defensive end so he could be the DPOY.
Shooter
07-24-2020, 01:29 AM
He definitely should.
Lakers are outscoring opponents by 14.0 per 100 possessions when LBJ is on the court and are outscored by 2.7 per 100 when he is off the court. This is a net diff of 16.7, the most by anyone this season with a minimum of 800 minutes.
By definition, the MVP. Of course. Like always. Again. GOAT gon' GOAT.
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