Socialist Heroes of the Past: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

[RRR3]

That’s right, MLK was a Democratic Socialist. I don’t have to go over his history because you all know how heroic and amazing he was already.

Article about his socialist beliefs: http://inthesetimes.com/article/20839/martin-luther-king-jr-day-socialism-capitalism

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[Patrick Chewing]

OP is gonna get murked one of these days.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Who cares?

There are people out there with heroic deeds who have less than stellar economic knowledge.

[RRR3]

OP is gonna get murked one of these days.
Does it make you mad the greatest American who ever lived was a socialist?

[Patrick Chewing]

Does it make you mad the greatest American who ever lived was a socialist?

Trump is not a Socialist you lunatic.

[RRR3]

Trump is not a Socialist you lunatic.
Trump has no case over MLK, dude. I’d love to see you try to make that argument, because you will fail.

[msbutthurt]

Does it make you mad the greatest American who ever lived was a socialist?


You think MLK is better than the founding fathers/settlers and Abraham Lincoln? You should really just leave the U.S., you don't deserve the lifestyle you were born into seeing as you're completely ungrateful. Just admit you want a basic income so you never have to work for the rest of your life.


Basic income... The majority would choose not to work. Fewer things would be produced, meaning people would actually have to work because with less workers and less products, prices will increase. If the U.S. became socialist(which fails), it won't just be black liars don't matter burning the country to the ground, 100% of people would be burning the country to the ground just so they could drown useless wankers looking for free handouts in schitt's creek. Nobody wants to do things for free. Nobody cares if you have a roof over your head. Or a refrigerator full of food. Heating and air. Running water.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump has no case over MLK, dude. I’d love to see you try to make that argument, because you will fail.

Greatest American? It's either Washington, Lincoln, or Armstrong. MLK is up there too. And Trump is President and presided over the only time in American History where the most Americans were employed at one time. So he's pretty great.

[msbutthurt]

Trump has no case over MLK, dude. I’d love to see you try to make that argument, because you will fail.

Trump is alive.

Score one for Trump.

Trump's also going to leave his offspring a billion dollar empire. MLK left his family his corpse.

[RRR3]

Trump is alive.

Score one for Trump.

Trump's also going to leave his offspring a billion dollar empire. MLK left his family his corpse.
Trump has severely hurt the environment, refused to end American involvement in the genocide in Yemen when he could have done so, ****ed over the working class with his economic policies, tried to get rid off the (admittedly shitty) healthcare system we have and not even replace it, grossly mishandled a pandemic and is now pulling protestors off the street in unmarked vehicles, which is highly fascistic. MLK lived and died fighting for equality and justice and his impact is still felt today. No comparison.

[Manny98]

MLK was against communism retard :lol

[RRR3]

MLK was against communism retard :lol
Many socialists are, especially Democratic Socialists. For example, South African religious leader and political activist Desmond Tutu is absolutely an advocate for democratic socialism, but is strongly against communism.

I’m sure you thought you had a point to make here, but you just made yourself look like a buffoon as usual.

[Manny98]

Many socialists are, especially Democratic Socialists. For example, South African religious leader and political activist Desmond Tutu is absolutely an advocate for democratic socialism, but is strongly against communism.

I’m sure you thought you had a point to make here, but you just made yourself look like a buffoon as usual.
You literally made this thread thinking that MLK supports your dumb ass communist ideology when he doesn't

[RRR3]

You literally made this thread thinking that MLK supports your dumb ass communist ideology when he doesn't
I am a Democratic Socialist you idiot. You are incredibly stupid and easily baited. No wonder you got 42 on that IQ test.

[Manny98]

Location: Communism works

The person on your avy is a literal communist

[RRR3]

Poor Manny. Just a 42 IQ.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Poor Manny. Just a 42 IQ.

Does the compassion you have for homosexuals, transexuals, animals, liberals, and minorities also extend to mentally handicapped people?

On what basis do you dish out compassion to others?

[RRR3]

Does the compassion you have for homosexuals, transexuals, animals, liberals, and minorities also extend to mentally handicapped people?
Manny isn’t actually handicapped I was exaggerating to make a point. He is an ignorant jackass troll though.

[Manny98]

Poor Manny. Just a 42 IQ.
Seething

MLK doesn't f*ck with your kind

[RRR3]

Seething

MLK doesn't f*ck with your kind
MLK and I literally have the same political ideology :lol

He’d think you were a greedy capitalist pig.

[Patrick Chewing]

MLK and I literally have the same political ideology :lol

He’d think you were a greedy capitalist pig.

:lol


Your purple-haired friends in ANTIFA would shout down MLK if he were alive today.

[RRR3]

:lol


Your purple-haired friends in ANTIFA would shout down MLK if he were alive today.
MLK would be extremely popular with the left today. Even more so than Bernie. This is a bad take even for you.

[Long Duck Dong]

Location: Communism works

The person on your avy is a literal communist

Kind of hard to peg MLK

Hardcore Christian minister with some communist sympathies and very flawed personal family values.

A Republican who later became a Democrat

Remember Republicans tried to push through the first 2 civil rights bills years earlier but the Dems were against it. Even the successful civil Rights act of 64 had more Dems voting against it than Republicans. MLK joined to the Dems because he likely saw them as the winning team.

In any case he fought and died for what he believed in and no one can hold his jock in the civil rights arena, not even these little woke white leftards.

But I guarantee you these woke white leftards will be tearing down his monuments soon because of his Christian beliefs and issues with women.

[Manny98]

MLK on communism


“During the Christmas holidays of 1949 I decided to spend my spare time reading Karl Marx to try to understand the appeal of communism for many people. For the first time I carefully scrutinized Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto,” he wrote. “I also read some interpretative works on the thinking of Marx and Lenin. In reading such Communist writings I drew certain conclusions that have remained with me as convictions to this day.”

Then King listed the three reasons he could never accept Marxism.

“First, I rejected their materialistic interpretation of history. Communism, avowedly secularistic and materialistic, has no place for God,” he wrote.

Marx’s theory of “dialectical materialism” (and the conjoined theory of “historical materialism”) instead envisioned the human race as a one-dimensional economic creature.

“Second, I strongly disagreed with communism’s ethical relativism. Since for the Communist there is no divine government, no absolute moral order, there are no fixed, immutable principles; consequently almost anything – force, violence murder, lying – is a justifiable means to the ‘millennial’ end,” he wrote.

The second point, closely related to the first, recognizes that anyone who rejects transcendence and revelation must, by extension, deny any universally binding morality. The world then becomes a patchwork of competing moralities, begging the strong to impose their will upon the weak. King consistently disowned those who spoke of prevailing in their political cause “by any means necessary.”

“Third, I opposed communism’s political totalitarianism. In communism, the individual ends up in subjection to the state. … And if man’s so-called rights and liberties stand in the way of that end, they are simply swept aside,” King wrote. “His liberties of expression, his freedom to vote, his freedom to listen to what news he likes or to choose his books are all restricted.”

“Man becomes hardly more, in communism, than a depersonalized cog in the turning wheel of the state,” King concluded.

Totalitarianism denied the human race its inherent dignity – precisely as King and the SCLC sought to extend it to all people equally, he wrote in his 1957 book, Stride Toward Freedom: The Montgomery Story. (You can read the full section here.)

None of this should imply that King supported laissez-faire economics. King swam within the intellectual currents of his time, which were overwhelmingly statist and interventionist. He favored what would today be known as a universal basic income – as did contemporaries as varied as John Kenneth Galbraith, Richard Nixon, and Milton Friedman. (More about this in a subsequent post.)

Aside from his faith-based objections, King’s most significant rebuttal to Marxist thought came in his impassioned plea to judge all people “not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” All forms of Marxism identifies the human person with an ancillary characteristic: This always includes class, but often also race and sex. Each of these groups are considered immutable, impermeable, and irreconcilably in conflict with one another. They cannot mediate their differences, understand one another, or share the common insights of reason and revelation about their common situation. Indeed, they have no common situation.




Doesn't sound like he agrees with you their buddy :oldlol:

[RRR3]

MLK on communism



Doesn't sound like he agrees with you their buddy :oldlol:
You are so stupid it’s painful.

[Patrick Chewing]

MLK on communism



Doesn't sound like he agrees with you their buddy :oldlol:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/giphy.gif

[RRR3]

Kind of hard to peg MLK

Hardcore Christian minister with some communist sympathies and very flawed personal family values.

A Republican who later became a Democrat

Remember Republicans tried to push through the first 2 civil rights bills years earlier but the Dems were against it. Even the successful civil Rights act of 64 had more Dems voting against it than Republicans. MLK joined to the Dems because he likely saw them as the winning team.

In any case he fought and died for what he believed in and no one can hold his jock in the civil rights arena, not even these little woke white leftards.

But I guarantee you these woke white leftards will be tearing down his monuments soon because of his Christian beliefs and issues with women.
Nothing wrong with being religious if you’re still a tolerant and kind person like MLK was. I’m aware he cheated on his wife, and while I don’t agree with infidelity, it hardly makes him evil. He had flaws just like everyone else. The libs might eventually decide MLK isn’t woke (unlikely given they’re afraid to criticize black people for fear of seeming racist) , but I’m not one of them so I’m not sure what your point is.

[Long Duck Dong]

I’m aware he cheated on his wife, and while I don’t agree with infidelity, it hardly makes him evil. He had flaws just like everyone else

I don't think it's his infidelities that are going to be his biggest hangup with women or the woke crowd, nor do I think he's evil under any circumstance.

[CelticBaller]

which is why he was a civil rights guy not an economist

[RRR3]

which is why he was a civil rights guy not an economist
Meltdown.

[coin24]

MLK on communism



Doesn't sound like he agrees with you their buddy :oldlol:

:lol

Poor transjew, clueless as usual and resorts to labelling everyone "low iq" that doesn't agree with his narrow minded ideals..

[RRR3]

Cashew sure does struggle with basic concepts.

[coin24]

Cashew sure does struggle with basic concepts.

That would be you, don't even know what race or gender you are. Live at home unemployed sitting around preaching to everyone about socialism and facists. Talk about a low iq loser:lol

[CelticBaller]

MLK on communism



Doesn't sound like he agrees with you their buddy :oldlol:

Oof

[RRR3]

Oof
Another very slow individual.

[TheMan]

MLK is on the top tier level of American GOATs, I would argue easily top 3

[RRR3]

MLK is on the top tier level of American GOATs, I would argue easily top 3
:applause:

And we have msbottom saying trump is greater Lmao

[rovo]

MLK is on the top tier level of American GOATs, I would argue easily top 3

I'm curious for your reasoning about why he would be a top-three as that is very high, and maybe he deserves it, but I want to know your reasoning behind it.

AND in your opinion who are the top three?

[Overdrive]

MLK on communism



Doesn't sound like he agrees with you their buddy :oldlol:

Social democracy isn't communism. Sociel democracy is: Sweden, Finnland, Norway, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria and France. None of these countries incorporate any comminst manofesto by the like of Marx or Engels. Communism is USSR et al.

Come back when you know the differents.


Trump is not a Socialist you lunatic.


Greatest American? It's either Washington, Lincoln, or Armstrong. MLK is up there too. And Trump is President and presided over the only time in American History where the most Americans were employed at one time. So he's pretty great.

So Trump is the president with the highest debt and the highest employment? That's the core of Milton Keynes deficit spending in order to gain workforce. Keynes is a huge influence on social democracy a socialism.

[TheMan]

I'm curious for your reasoning about why he would be a top-three as that is very high, and maybe he deserves it, but I want to know your reasoning behind it.

AND in your opinion who are the top three?

MLK is very high on my list for various reasons but obviously for his struggle to have black Americans (and other Americans of non white ancestry) have the same rights as white Americans and the way he did it, by non violent means. Same as Gandhi in India decades before...tbh, that is the hardest way but it is the Christian way, I'm not that good as a person, I can admit that, I would probably be more of I will have my rights, violent means if necessary, it's the easier path. I could go on but read up on MLK, he was not only a great American, but human being as well, not perfect but no human is.

My Top 3? FDR, Lincoln and MLK, with Washington and JFK rounding out my top 5.

[Overdrive]

MLK is very high on my list for various reasons but obviously for his struggle to have black Americans (and other Americans of non white ancestry) have the same rights as white Americans and the way he did it, by non violent means. Same as Gandhi in India decades before...tbh, that is the hardest way but it is the Christian way, I'm not that good as a person, I can admit that, I would probably be more of I will have my rights, violent means if necessary, it's the easier path. I could go on but read up on MLK, he was not only a great American, but human being as well, not perfect but no human is.

My Top 3? FDR, Lincoln and MLK, with Washington and JFK rounding out my top 5.

The non violent way is the only one working in the long run. Tougher maybe, but any violent revolution doesn't last. That's why the recent BLM protests are BS.

[Long Duck Dong]

MLK is very high on my list for various reasons but obviously for his struggle to have black Americans (and other Americans of non white ancestry) have the same rights as white Americans and the way he did it, by non violent means. Same as Gandhi in India decades before...tbh, that is the hardest way but it is the Christian way, I'm not that good as a person, I can admit that, I would probably be more of I will have my rights, violent means if necessary, it's the easier path. I could go on but read up on MLK, he was not only a great Amwrican, but himan as well, not perfect but no himan is.

Top 3? Washingston, Lincoln and MLK, with FDR and JFK rounding out my top 5.

If you judged just by policy and not by the person. I wonder how many leftists would side with Nixon over JFK if they had to choose.

[rovo]

One thing a lot of people don't know, Richard Nixon ended the draft. There were a ton of protest for the draft and there were people burning their draft card but Nixon was the one who put an end to the draft. He also started the end of Vietnam, it officially ended under Ford because Nixon step down, but Nixon was the one that really ended it.

[rovo]

Most people only know Nixon for Watergate, many people don't even know what really happened during Watergate but just know that Nixon had to resign or would have been impeached. And people should know about that as that was a bad thing he did but they don't know any of the good that happened under his presidency. I think ending the draft and ending Vietnam are humongous.

I am by no means in support of Nixon. But people never appreciate his presidency for ending the draft which at the time a lot of the US was fighting against. Same for Vietnam. There were protests for the draft and for Vietnam and it ended

[Patrick Chewing]

I was happy to vote for Nixon twice.

[Rooster]

Most people only know Nixon for Watergate, many people don't even know what really happened during Watergate but just know that Nixon had to resign or would have been impeached. And people should know about that as that was a bad thing he did but they don't know any of the good that happened under his presidency. I think ending the draft and ending Vietnam are humongous.

I am by no means in support of Nixon. But people never appreciate his presidency for ending the draft which at the time a lot of the US was fighting against. Same for Vietnam. There were protests for the draft and for Vietnam and it ended

Nixon is so cunning that he used the Vietnam excuse to facilitate one of the best under appreciated policy that our people (well the oligarchs) enjoy until to this day, Nixon Shock and also another big one, Petrodollar. That grew our economy to another level and now the world pretty much rely on us to buy their products. Being a consumer gave us a power to dictate our national interest plus our military when push comes to shove.

Make no mistake Nixon knew and understand money. But people will always remember the Watergate and his impeachment (only President) .

Going back to MLK, he’s definitely a inspiration to many but his egalitarian approach although noble is not sustainable and would virtually collapse the economy.

[MrFonzworth]

Fun fact: MLK used to beat the shit out of his wife.

[DoctorP]

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