2020 Election Predictions

[Walk on Water]

What's your prediction on what is going to happen this election? I have learned that in this day and age, you can never know what is going to happen. I don't think either will win in a landslide. I just have a feeling that it's gonna be tight and suspenseful. I don't think the Democrats will accept a loss. So they'll do everything in their power to squeak out a win. And when it appears that they've barely won, they will start getting arrogant. But Trump will have a reason to believe that he didn't lose. And it will be very messy to get him out of office. I think that this is the most realistic scenario. It very could be that the Democrats rig this one and force everyone to mail in. But I don't think that Trump is gonna get blown out. This could be the most controversial election of all time.

[Nanners]

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[TheMan]

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Things could change but the way things are looking right now...remember 2008? This could be worse for the GOP than those elections.

[Nanners]

Things could change but the way things are looking right now...remember 2008? This could be worse for the GOP than those elections.

I wouldnt be surprised if the GOP gets smoked as badly in 2020 as they did in 2008... that said, back in 2008 the dems had an absolute rockstar as their presidential candidate, in 2020 they are basically running Jerry Sandusky with dementia

[SouBeachTalents]

No trolling, I think Biden wins. I think due to the majority of ballots being done by mail we probably won't know who won the election for some time, maybe not even until after Thanksgiving. I think if Trump does lose the election he will definitely refuse to accept the results and claim it was rigged. This is the scenario, if it does happen, I'll be most curious to see how things plays out. I cannot imagine under any circumstance Trump losing graciously and conceding defeat, so I honestly don't know how this scenario would play out and be resolved if it happens

But the election is still over 100 days away, a lot can change from now. I honestly never thought Trump was gonna win at any point in 2016, Hillary was ahead the entire time, and I 100% thought Trump was done after grab 'em by the pusssy came out. So that's why even with Biden ahead in the polls, I'm not holding my breath this time around. Even with Trump trailing by a lot right now, it's historically very difficult to knock off the incumbent. All I know is this will probably be the most memorable election of our lifetimes, and the reactions from the losing side are going to be absolutely fcking epic

[Nanners]

All I know is this will probably be the most memorable election of our lifetimes, and the reactions from the losing side are going to be absolutely fcking epic

I dunno... for me personally the 2020 election is going to have to be pretty damn epic in order to top 2016 in terms of being memorable or in terms of the hilarity of the reactions from the supporters of the losing candidate

[bladefd]

No trolling, I think Biden wins. I think due to the majority of ballots being done by mail we probably won't know who won the election for some time, maybe not even until after Thanksgiving. I think if Trump does lose the election he will definitely refuse to accept the results and claim it was rigged. This is the scenario, if it does happen, I'll be most curious to see how things plays out. I cannot imagine under any circumstance Trump losing graciously and conceding defeat, so I honestly don't know how this scenario would play out and be resolved if it happens

But the election is still over 100 days away, a lot can change from now. I honestly never thought Trump was gonna win at any point in 2016, Hillary was ahead the entire time, and I 100% thought Trump was done after grab 'em by the pusssy came out. So that's why even with Biden ahead in the polls, I'm not holding my breath this time around. Even with Trump trailing by a lot right now, it's historically very difficult to knock off the incumbent. All I know is this will probably be the most memorable election of our lifetimes, and the reactions from the losing side are going to be absolutely fcking epic

I also don't see Trump accepting defeat, especially if it is a close loss. He is going to cry about voter fraud. He has already begun complaining about mail-in ballots, and we are months away from election. I have a feeling he will be leading in popular vote on election day because his supporters will be out there voting in person. Democrats are going to mostly vote from mail. It is very much believable that Trump declares victory on election day then when the mail-in ballots are counted, Biden ends up winning comfortably. Trump is the sort of vindictive person who would refuse to admit being wrong so it could be chaos after the election for weeks.

Anyways, the big sign for me was 2018 mid-terms, when there was a blue wave. Democrats and independents came out in droves to vote against the people Trump endorsed. I expect that momentum to continue here.

Also in 2016, people believed Trump was an outsider, a brilliant businessman and he would clean up the swamp. His actions as president said something very different - he was the very swamp he said he would stop. All doubts are out the window and people now know who he is exactly - a con-artist. That is very different from 2016 when people didn't know what to expect. People knew what to expect from Hillary so they went with the unknown. Well, the unknown is known now this time around.

[JohnnySic]

Trump will win. Dont buy the polls; they are severely under counting Republicans, and Trump supporters have to keep a low profile in any case, as they could get fired or even receive death threats by voicing their support.

Also, people assume that its only a few battleground states in play, but I dont think that's the case. This year is different. There's a price to pay for all the crap the left has pulled, and in November the chickens are gonna come home to roost. Dont be surprised if some assumed blue states flip red. Hell, I wouldn't be completely shocked if Massachusetts went red, given the eye test on what I've seen around me. I wont count on it, but imagine if it did? The election would be over scarcely before it started. :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Liberal-run cities across America are burning and their Mayors are telling their citizens that they no longer care for their safety by defunding the police, thus resulting in a rise in crime as we are already seeing in New York, Chicago, Minneapolis, Seattle CHOP/CHAZ, Portland, etc.

So yeah, people are going to vote for Biden and vote for Democrats in Congress so they can experience more of the carnage....

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[TheMan]

I also don't see Trump accepting defeat, especially if it is a close loss. He is going to cry about voter fraud. He has already begun complaining about mail-in ballots, and we are months away from election. I have a feeling he will be leading in popular vote on election day because his supporters will be out there voting in person. Democrats are going to mostly vote from mail. It is very much believable that Trump declares victory on election day then when the mail-in ballots are counted, Biden ends up winning comfortably. Trump is the sort of vindictive person who would refuse to admit being wrong so it could be chaos after the election for weeks.

Anyways, the big sign for me was 2018 mid-terms, when there was a blue wave. Democrats and independents came out in droves to vote against the people Trump endorsed. I expect that momentum to continue here.

Also in 2016, people believed Trump was an outsider, a brilliant businessman and he would clean up the swamp. His actions as president said something very different - he was the very swamp he said he would stop. All doubts are out the window and people now know who he is exactly - a con-artist. That is very different from 2016 when people didn't know what to expect. People knew what to expect from Hillary so they went with the unknown. Well, the unknown is known now this time around.
I predict Biden will win pretty convincingly on election night, and the Dems will take the Senate too (not that they will do anything legislatively of significance for the little guy though but for some crumbs)...gonna be a rough night for the GOP and I called it years ago and I'm sticking with it. This loss will make 2008 look like amateur night in comparison.

Another thing, I don't believe Trump will try to stay in the WH after the trouncing he'll receive, the military won't back him and that's essential in trying to stay in power...he'll leave bitching and moaning alright but who gaf :lol

[Derka]

Don't care, they're both abjectly f*cking useless human beings.

I just want to see the comedy of lunacy and nonsense that will take place if Trump does lose and refuses to leave the White House.

[jstern]

Unless something big happens, Trump is going to win, big. For various reasons.

First the whole de-fund the police nonsense. The only people who would not be horrified by such an idea are criminals (for obvious reasons) and naive immature people who are angry because the cops gave them a ticket or something. These people are also less likely to vote, or can't vote at all because of their felon status. The vast majority of blacks, specially those that live in dangerous area are probably horrified of such an idea. The same goes for independent voters.

Two, the whole sniffing little girl's hair. It's not even the pedo creepiness of it all, but the absolute lack of self awareness doing it in front of cameras.

Three, Trump has raised more money.

Fourth, Trump is verbally viscous, and sleepy Joe is loss, confused, doesn't know where he is, what's going on, and is very flawed. Biden's dementia.

I understand the tendency for some to feel that without a shadow Biden is going to win, because from their point of view, how can anyone vote for Trump? He's bad, a racist, crazy, and thus the horns effect.

[JohnnySic]

IMO, the Democrats lost the election when they didn't crush the rioting/looting at its outset. In fact, they more enabled and encouraged it. That was pretty damning and it horrified the nation.

Defund the Police, Autonomous zones, BLM drivel, etc, only put more nails in their coffin.

[Patrick Chewing]

Unless something big happens, Trump is going to win, big. For various reasons.

First the whole de-fund the police nonsense. The only people who would not be horrified by such an idea are criminals (for obvious reasons) and naive immature people who are angry because the cops gave them a ticket or something. These people are also less likely to vote, or can't vote at all because of their felon status. The vast majority of blacks, specially those that live in dangerous area are probably horrified of such an idea. The same goes for independent voters.

Two, the whole sniffing little girl's hair. It's not even the pedo creepiness of it all, but the absolute lack of self awareness doing it in front of cameras.

Three, Trump has raised more money.

Fourth, Trump is verbally viscous, and sleepy Joe is loss, confused, doesn't know where he is, what's going on, and is very flawed. Biden's dementia.

I understand the tendency for some to feel that without a shadow Biden is going to win, because from their point of view, how can anyone vote for Trump? He's bad, a racist, crazy, and thus the horns effect.

It went sort of unnoticed this past Sunday and the following couple of days after, but Trump sat down with that Liberal hack Chris Wallace on Sunday, and Trump made a reference to how Joe Biden supports defunding the police. Immediately, Chris Wallace challenged him on that and some news outlets and Twitter went crazy right after that by challenging the President's statement and saying that it was untrue. Well, in fact, it was true. They know how damaging support for defunding the police right now is that they vehemently tried to dismiss Trump's accusation. They know damn well that if the Democratic nominee for President comes out on record for defunding the police, it's over. OVER.

Trump is an animal. There may not be any debates, but by God, that only helps Biden cause Trump would maul this guy.

So yes, Democrats are standing firm behind their Defund the Police stance and behind their support for radical Marxists such as BLM, and the American people will not stand for it. The American people may not love Donald Trump, but they sure love this country and they do not want to see what's happening in Seattle, Portland, and New York happen in their neighborhoods.


Trump wins in a landslide.

[RRR3]

Right now it looks like Biden will win, which is truly incredible given the fact that he’s not only a horrendous candidate but that he is clearly senile as shit. I think Trump had it in the bag before coronavirus really started damaging his reputation. The murder of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery and subsequent protests that were marked by more police brutality also hurt Trump. I don’t think police brutality has anything to do with Trump, but he’ll get blamed for it nonetheless.

However it would be a mistake to underestimate Trump, and it’s worth noting a lot of leftists won’t vote for Biden, myself included.

[RRR3]

It went sort of unnoticed this past Sunday and the following couple of days after, but Trump sat down with that Liberal hack Chris Wallace on Sunday, and Trump made a reference to how Joe Biden supports defunding the police. Immediately, Chris Wallace challenged him on that and some news outlets and Twitter went crazy right after that by challenging the President's statement and saying that it was untrue. Well, in fact, it was true. They know how damaging support for defunding the police right now is that they vehemently tried to dismiss Trump's accusation. They know damn well that if the Democratic nominee for President comes out on record for defunding the police, it's over. OVER.

Trump is an animal. There may not be any debates, but by God, that only helps Biden cause Trump would maul this guy.

So yes, Democrats are standing firm behind their Defund the Police stance and behind their support for radical Marxists such as BLM, and the American people will not stand for it. The American people may not love Donald Trump, but they sure love this country and they do not want to see what's happening in Seattle, Portland, and New York happen in their neighborhoods.


Trump wins in a landslide.
I guarantee you Biden isn’t in favor of defunding the police. Biden is basically a republican. He is far too authoritarian for favoring defunding police. It’s hilarious you hate him so much when you’d probably like him if he had the same policies but had an R next to his name.

[Shogon]

I guarantee you Biden isn’t in favor of defunding the police. Biden is basically a republican. He is far too authoritarian for favoring defunding police. It’s hilarious you hate him so much when you’d probably like him if he had the same policies but had an R next to his name.

It doesn't matter what he's in favor of.

It matters what his public stance is, and I guarantee if you asked Biden today it would be some "re-imagine policing" bullshit line that's been parroted by all the DNC cronies for the past couple of months.

https://youtu.be/APBBksMgOtI?t=201

^ Watch that.

[TheMan]

I guarantee you Biden isn’t in favor of defunding the police. Biden is basically a republican. He is far too authoritarian for favoring defunding police. It’s hilarious you hate him so much when you’d probably like him if he had the same policies but had an R next to his name.
He knows that but Republicans don't care about spreading outright lies. Hilarious how Patty and the rest of the GOPhers wanna push the narrative that Biden is an ultra left guy :lol Too late on defining him, he was the vice president for 8 years, people already know he's a corporate Democrat and hostile to legit progressives. That doesn't stop Republicans from lying through their teeth though...I would suggest the Democrats try doing the same, put out an ad claiming Trump likes wishing all pedos good luck.




The Trump campaign has spent at least $20 million in July on advertising promoting the false and repeatedly debunked claim that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden favors defunding the police.

Biden has said he doesn’t support that. “While I do not believe federal dollars should go to police departments violating people’s rights or turning to violence as the first resort, I do not support defunding police,” the former vice president said in a June 10 op-ed.

A campaign spokesman also told us Biden supports more funding for police for initiatives to strengthen community relationships and for body-worn cameras.

The Trump campaign’s latest TV ad debuted on July 20, just one day after a nationally televised interview in which President Donald Trump made the claim — and was instantly corrected by interviewer Chris Wallace, host of “Fox News Sunday.”

The new commercial, which has aired most heavily in the swing states Florida and Pennsylvania, explicitly says that Biden supports defunding the police. Previous ads on the subject say that his supporters do and suggest that law enforcement spending would plummet during a Biden presidency, leaving Americans at the mercy of criminals. The campaign has spent $461,000 on the new ad in the first two days, according to Advertising Analytics.

The issue came to the fore when Trump said falsely in his interview with Wallace, which was recorded July 17 and aired two days later, that “Biden wants to defund the police,” citing recommendations put together by allies of Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders, his defeated rival for the Democratic presidential nomination. Wallace — correctly — immediately challenged the president’s claim.

Trump: And Biden wants to defund the police.

Wallace: No he, sir, he does not.

Trump: Look. He signed a charter with Bernie Sanders; I will get that one just like I was right on the mortality rate. Did you read the charter that he agreed to with …

Wallace: It says nothing about defunding the police.

Trump asked for and received a copy of the Biden-Sanders Unity Task Force Recommendations. But there is no reference in it to defunding the police, as Wallace pointed out.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-false-recurring-claim-about-bidens-stance-on-police/

[RRR3]

It doesn't matter what he's in favor of.

It matters what his public stance is, and I guarantee if you asked Biden today it would be some "re-imagine policing" bullshit line that's been parroted by all the DNC cronies for the past couple of months.

https://youtu.be/APBBksMgOtI?t=201

^ Watch that.
So what? You shouldn’t believe a word Biden says. He won’t commit to any remotely progressive policies, dude is a right winger. Talk is cheap, as they say.

[Shogon]

So what? You shouldn’t believe a word Biden says. He won’t commit to any remotely progressive policies, dude is a right winger. Talk is cheap, as they say.

I don't believe him. lol, he's more dishonest than Trump, and that's saying something.

[~primetime~]

Say what you want about polls, but we don't have much else to go on here...approval ratings, vegas odds, maybe a couple other things.

Outside of those things all you can go on is your personal bias...


All indicators show Biden crushing Trump, and currently it is much more in his favor than Hillary ever had.

Also no President in history has ever won reelection with a sub 50% Approval Rating....Trump's rating is low, 40%


IMO the biggest difference between Biden and Hillary is that Biden has won over old voters...he's almost doubled Hillary in support from seniors. The right took the angle of "who cares about old people, they die anyway!"...they SHOULD have taken the angle of "covid is real and the protests are killing our precious elderly!!!". Covid and the right's take on it being nothing to worry about has really crippled Trump. Conservatives are an older crowd than libs, they want covid to be taken seriously.

[RRR3]

Okay, then I’m really not sure what your point was. Dude panders to SJWs, but he and both sides of the establishment (yes he is part of the establishment naturally, but this is ISH so I have to say it) are firmly in agreement on screwing over the working class. People like Chewing holding him up as a leftist is hilarious.

[imdaman99]

I'm tired of obsessing over politics, but I cannot pretend this shitshow is not interesting. November couldn't come soon enough though.

I don't much care who wins as I don't like either candidate, and my life will not change much either way but I can't help but wonder how Trump will look with egg on his face. He has the nerve to send out anti democratic propoganda to my home :facepalm because my pops just recently became a citizen :lol

[diamenz]

i'm sorry, but you'd have to be an absolute fool if you truly think that the establishment dems are going to defund the police if they win in november. that the likes of biden, schumer and pelosi would do such a thing is absolute insanity. the only ones calling for this are the radical left. you saw what they did to bernie a few months ago, right? like they're going to turn around and listen to progressives. LMAO. give me a break.

[RRR3]

i'm sorry, but you'd have to be an absolute fool if you truly think that the establishment dems are going to defund the police if they win in november. that the likes of biden, schumer and pelosi would do such a thing is absolute insanity. the only ones calling for this are the radical left. you saw what they did to bernie a few months ago, right? like they're going to turn around and listen to progressives. LMAO. give me a break.
There isn’t a single radical left politician in Washington, but I agree with your post otherwise.

[MMM]

You guys don't think there is an over-policing problem? America has more people in prison than in despot regimes. Am I supposed to believe Americans are an uber-violent culture, or is this the result of ever-growing statist agenda?

[4pointshot]

It went sort of unnoticed this past Sunday and the following couple of days after, but Trump sat down with that Liberal hack Chris Wallace on Sunday, and Trump made a reference to how Joe Biden supports defunding the police. Immediately, Chris Wallace challenged him on that and some news outlets and Twitter went crazy right after that by challenging the President's statement and saying that it was untrue. Well, in fact, it was true. They know how damaging support for defunding the police right now is that they vehemently tried to dismiss Trump's accusation. They know damn well that if the Democratic nominee for President comes out on record for defunding the police, it's over. OVER.

Biden said he supported moving some of the funding to other programs. That's the definition of defunding the police--NOT eliminating all funding for them, but transferring the funding to other areas that police are currently called on to do, but really aren't appropriate for. And guess what? Many police support this idea.

Meanwhile, you of course don't mention that in the first ten minutes or so of that interview, Trump told three lies about the U.S. response to the pandemic. And if Wallace, who is only liberal when one takes as the center the far right, knew more of the science, he would have exposed far more ignorance in those lies than he actually did.

Meanwhile, new Quin poll has Biden up 51-38 in FL, a state Trump has to win. I wonder why Trump is doing so badly in FL?

[Patrick Chewing]

Biden said he supported moving some of the funding to other programs. That's the definition of defunding the police--NOT eliminating all funding for them, but transferring the funding to other areas that police are currently called on to do, but really aren't appropriate for. And guess what? Many police support this idea.

Meanwhile, you of course don't mention that in the first ten minutes or so of that interview, Trump told three lies about the U.S. response to the pandemic. And if Wallace, who is only liberal when one takes as the center the far right, knew more of the science, he would have exposed far more ignorance in those lies than he actually did.

Meanwhile, new Quin poll has Biden up 51-38 in FL, a state Trump has to win. I wonder why Trump is doing so badly in FL?

So it's not defunding, it's the reallocating of funds, huh? So it's the Socialist approach to policing. :oldlol:

[coin24]

November can't come fast enough, but then again I'm sure when trump wins they'll start with impeach 2.0 or some other bulshit to keep this circus going.
American politics, the biggest reality show on earth:applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

November can't come fast enough, but then again I'm sure when trump wins they'll start with impeach 2.0 or some other bulshit to keep this circus going.
American politics, the biggest reality show on earth:applause:

If the IG report is the bombshell report we're all hoping it is, and indictments are handed out and arrests are made, there will be no second attempt at impeachment. Libs will be quiet little school children while the Teflon Don makes America great again the second time around.

[MMM]

So it's not defunding, it's the reallocating of funds, huh? So it's the Socialist approach to policing. :oldlol:

Nah it's policing the suburbs like the inner city. Half the people in American prisons shouldn't be

[Patrick Chewing]

Nah it's policing the suburbs like the inner city. Half the people in American prisons shouldn't be


How can you police the inner cities differently when most crimes are committed in the inner cities?


And crime is a direct result of poverty. The suburbs are the suburbs because of income and because of the sense of security. The end goal is to get people out of the inner cities. But that's not done just by throwing money at people. The people in these cities need to be accountable for their own lives and futures. Policing in America is not the problem.

[coin24]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4kbF7mvBWo


Racism doe:oldlol:

[TheMan]

If the IG report is the bombshell report we're all hoping it is, and indictments are handed out and arrests are made, there will be no second attempt at impeachment. Libs will be quiet little school children while the Teflon Don makes America great again the second time around.
lol, boy are you in for a shock in Nov :lol

[4pointshot]

So it's not defunding, it's the reallocating of funds, huh? So it's the Socialist approach to policing. :oldlol:

Hey, using federal troops to maintain order in local communities is socialism. You seem fine with that.


And crime is a direct result of poverty.

And poverty is a direct result of a system that funnels vast wealth to the few.


The suburbs are the suburbs because of income and because of the sense of security. The end goal is to get people out of the inner cities. But that's not done just by throwing money at people. The people in these cities need to be accountable for their own lives and futures.

That's easy to say for people who don't grow up under those conditions. Nobody really has a good answer to the problem, which is the problem.


Policing in America is not the problem.

Then why does Trump say it is the problem in Democratically controlled cities?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Republicans are nothing without redneck voters.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLKbcrC0krQ

https://www.badideatshirts.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/563ec8bf64dad5e3a29f40a8d9ea06a0/p/s/ps_2666_trump45.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

Hey, using federal troops to maintain order in local communities is socialism. You seem fine with that.



And poverty is a direct result of a system that funnels vast wealth to the few.



That's easy to say for people who don't grow up under those conditions. Nobody really has a good answer to the problem, which is the problem.



Then why does Trump say it is the problem in Democratically controlled cities?

If you want to "funnel" more wealth into your bank account, work hard for it. Like I said, just throwing money at these people isn't going to get them out of the ghetto and out of poverty.



And let's get back to the Federal troops things since a lot of you are repeating CNN talking points. Federal troops aren't snatching people up or anything of the sort. Federal troops protect federal buildings. Simple as that. If spineless Lib Mayor's won't protect these buildings, then the President will.

[Rolando]

Trump had this in the bag before the race riots and corona virus hit. Now it is looking really tight.

The Democrats have, once again, succesfully found the least desirable candidate. As soon as Biden comes out of hiding and faces Trump in a debate, things are going to even up real quick. I have no idea who wins this. I would honestly like the Democratic Party to collapse and be rebuilt more along the lines of a Labor / Progressive philosophy. Right now they are basically just like the Republicans except with slightly different donors and a soft heart when in comes to welfare and immigration.

[KD7]

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1287098764398718976

As long as Biden doesn't win I'm good

Trump or Ye for President, can't go wrong with either :banana:

[TheMan]

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1287098764398718976

As long as Biden doesn't win I'm good

Trump or Ye for President, can't go wrong with either :banana:

Kanye will have zero effect in these elections, lmao

BTW, why do you care so much? Aren't you some pinoy boi living in the UK?

[Patrick Chewing]

Kanye will have zero effect in these elections, lmao

BTW, why do you care so much? Aren't you some pinoy boi living in the UK?


You live in Mexico dude :oldlol:

[4pointshot]

If you want to "funnel" more wealth into your bank account, work hard for it. Like I said, just throwing money at these people isn't going to get them out of the ghetto and out of poverty.

So someone with a billion dollars got there because he worked 20,000 times harder than someone with only fifty thousand? Really? Explain to me how you work 20,000 times harder than anyone. Obviously it can't be 20,000 times longer, so how can it be 20,000 harder?


And let's get back to the Federal troops things since a lot of you are repeating CNN talking points. Federal troops aren't snatching people up or anything of the sort. Federal troops protect federal buildings. Simple as that. If spineless Lib Mayor's won't protect these buildings, then the President will.

I didn't say the feds were snatching people up, though in fact, they have. That's not a CNN talking point, individuals have come forward with their stories. If it's just about protecting federal buildings, why are the feds seen far from those buildings, tear gassing demonstrators?

But again, if you prefer the socialist approach to law and order, where tax payers fund federal agents to go into local communities against the wishes of both the local government and most of the local citizens, then don't hypocritically complain when socialist policies are used to ensure government regulations that save far, far, far, it's not even remotely close far, more lives than the feds or any local police are saving.

[Doomsday Dallas]

So someone with a billion dollars got there because he worked 20,000 times harder than someone with only fifty thousand? Really? Explain to me how you work 20,000 times harder than anyone. Obviously it can't be 20,000 times longer, so how can it be 20,000 harder?

work Smarter, not Harder.

[Patrick Chewing]

This guy thinks that the only way out of the ghetto is to become a billionaire :oldlol:

[Jasper]

Republicans are nothing without redneck voters.

This is without a fact , a very valid fact.
Fact - majority of voters to vote in Trump had a high school education or less.
** Hard to interrupt , but the more educated you are , the more American's feel our government is worthless.
We are still trying to figure out how to over turn it ,
My solution is re-do our out dated laws....
Did you know Caucasians make up 12% of the world !! (kind of feel like a minority now??)

[TheMan]

This is without a fact , a very valid fact.
Fact - majority of voters to vote in Trump had a high school education or less.
** Hard to interrupt , but the more educated you are , the more American's feel our government is worthless.
We are still trying to figure out how to over turn it ,
My solution is re-do our out dated laws....
Did you know Caucasians make up 12% of the world !! (kind of feel like a minority now??)
Latin Americans make up only 8% of the world's population :(

[JohnnySic]

Republicans are nothing without redneck voters.

Democrats are nothing without ignorant ghetto people. Meh, gimme the redncks.

[Doomsday Dallas]

101 days left until showdown. 11/3

if there was ever a time to be just a little bit paranoid about the next 100 days in this country, now would be an appropriate time.

all I can say is prepare for the worst & hope for the best....

but if you have hope that Biden is taking over that White House while Trump is still alive, you would be mistaken.

[TheMan]

101 days left until showdown. 11/3

if there was ever a time to be just a little bit paranoid about the next 100 days in this country, now would be an appropriate time.

all I can say is prepare for the worst & hope for the best....

but if you have hope that Biden is taking over that White House while Trump is still alive, you would be mistaken.

Care to make it interesting?

Biden and the Dems will win so big, Trump won't dare try to stay, and the military won't back him either so he WILL leave, bitching and moaning about how unfair it is and all but he will leave regardless. Either that or he will be forcibly removed, in handcuffs if need be.

[BigKobeFan]

Care to make it interesting?

Biden and the Dems will win so big, Trump won't dare try to stay, and the military won't back him either so he WILL leave, bitching and moaning about how unfair it is and all but he will leave regardless. Either that or he will be forcibly removed, in handcuffs if need be.

Right...but we really know how democrats act when they can't accept a loss.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Care to make it interesting?

Biden and the Dems will win so big, Trump won't dare try to stay, and the military won't back him either so he WILL leave, bitching and moaning about how unfair it is and all but he will leave regardless. Either that or he will be forcibly removed, in handcuffs if need be.

yea, that ain't happening.

idk know what will happen in the next 100 days... or the 78 days after the election leading up to the inauguration.... but what you just described will not happen.

[TheMan]

yea, that ain't happening.

idk know what will happen in the next 100 days... or the 78 days after the election leading up to the inauguration.... but what you just described will not happen.

Neither what you described about Trump not leaving the White House alive, he loses, he will leave, on his own or forcibly.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Neither what you described about Trump not leaving the White House alive, he loses, he will leave, on his own or forcibly.

well first Biden & Trump have to survive the next 100 days, say what you will, but It's not outside the realm of a solid 5-10% chance of happening.

next we have to avoid Martial Law in the next 100 days... about another 5% chance in the 100 day forecast.

then we have to get past CV19 voting, mail-in dilemma

with all that said... Biden is to somehow win the election in normal fashion without some major bull$hit occurring in the last 178 days of Trump's presidency?

Trump shaking Biden's hand and leaving the White House is not in the cards... I don't know what is, but it won't be that.



Wouldn't it just make more sense for Trump to win, and that way we can continue to burn our cities to the ground? Makes sense to me.

[TheMan]

well first Biden & Trump have to survive the next 100 days, say what you will, but It's not outside the realm of a solid 5-10% chance of happening.

next we have to avoid Martial Law in the next 100 days... about another 5% chance in the 100 day forecast.

then we have to get past CV19 voting, mail-in dilemma

with all that said... Biden is to somehow win the election in normal fashion without some major bull$hit occurring in the last 178 days of Trump's presidency?

Trump shaking Biden's hand and leaving the White House is not in the cards... I don't know what is, but it won't be that.



Wouldn't it just make more sense for Trump to win, and that way we can continue to burn our cities to the ground? Makes sense to me.

No because I'm not a conspiracy theorist:confusedshrug:

[June]

Here in Europe almost everybody says that Trump will lose. I don't know, but I heard that in the US the president lose the second election rarely so.... let's see.
From Italy, one of the first nations impacted by pandemic, I can say that the US lost a lot of time to prevent the pandemic. If I were a US citizen I won't be happy about that

[BigKobeFan]

Here in Europe almost everybody says that Trump will lose. I don't know, but I heard that in the US the president lose the second election rarely so.... let's see.
From Italy, one of the first nations impacted by pandemic, I can say that the US lost a lot of time to prevent the pandemic. If I were a US citizen I won't be happy about that

Lets go back to the time line. The day after kobe died, trump locked down china. While idiot fauci and the democrats were saying he is a racist

Towards the middle of feb when the impeachment failed, thedemocrats needed something new

Fauci in the meantime said masks were unnecessary.

[msbutthurt]

I'm convinced the progressives here don't live on their own or have jobs. Yet they talk about others being uneducated as if being left automatically makes them intelligent. "I side wit da doctors dat vote da left. I is smartz". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

[Norcaliblunt]

I predict major meltdowns

[Patrick Chewing]

I am going to take a massive XXL dump on TheMan on election night.


Been talking all that shit, well now you’re gonna get it.

[BigKobeFan]

I am going to take a massive XXL dump on TheMan on election night.


Been talking all that shit, well now you’re gonna get it.

Also another on highweight

Lets eat some fat burritos the night before

[~primetime~]

Trump has a pretty big deficit in Florida, because of people have jumped ship.

No Republican has won Presidency without Florida in 96 years.

[TheMan]

I am going to take a massive XXL dump on TheMan on election night.


Been talking all that shit, well now you’re gonna get it.

Lol, bring it on amigo...unless something major happens that turns this election around for Trump, he is done. Hints? Watch for more Republicans defecting (like governor Hogan of Maryland) reflecting how bad they see your boy doing. It really isn't rocket science, you just need to take off your rose colored glasses and look at the data out there.

[LoneyROY7]

"But but but Hilary was winning the polls in '16 too!"

Hilary was at 36% in Florida in 2016. Sleepy Joe is at 51% in Florida currently!

Donny gonna get bludgeoned.

[Nanners]

No because I'm not a conspiracy theorist:confusedshrug:

:roll:

its beyond hilarious to see a simpleton who spent much of the past 3 years obsessing over the russiagate conspiracy claim that they arent a conspiracy theorist

even absurd conspiracies like chemtrails and UFOs have more convincing evidence than russiagate

[Lebron23]

Who's going to be Biden's Vice President??

[Nanners]

Who's going to be Biden's Vice President??

Currently the betting makets have Kamala Harris as the favorite... but given the disastrous plastic surgery she had recently I am pretty skeptical (she looks like jack nicholsons joker)

Despite the fact that Biden said he was going to pick a black woman as his VP, my guess would be Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren. Biden already made it clear that he thinks blacks owe him their votes by default, so there zero pressure for him to follow through on that promise (who else are you gonna vote for?)... and he probably doesnt even remember this promise considering his dimentia has become so bad that he clearly doesnt even know where he is at any given moment (its not like it should be hard to remember... ffs he has spent the past ~4 months in the same place - hiding in his basement).

[RRR3]

Currently the betting makets have Kamala Harris as the favorite... but given the disastrous plastic surgery she had recently I am pretty skeptical (she looks like jack nicholsons joker)

Despite the fact that Biden said he was going to pick a black woman as his VP, my guess would be Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren. Biden already made it clear that he thinks blacks owe him their votes by default, so there zero pressure for him to follow through on that promise (who else are you gonna vote for?)... and he probably doesnt even remember this promise considering his dimentia has become so bad that he clearly doesnt even know where he is at any given moment (its not like it should be hard to remember... ffs he has spent the past ~4 months in the same place - hiding in his basement).
I will laugh so hard if he picks Hillary :lol

[Nanners]

I will laugh so hard if he picks Hillary :lol

Me too... although I laugh every time he opens his denture-filled mouth :oldlol:

Hillary makes a ton of sense from a neoliberal democrat point of view. Its her turn - she was supposed to win in 2016 and got cheated by the american working class (or russia...if you're retarded enough to believe that). Unlike Liz Warren, the media loves her, the giant corporations love her, the military industrial complex loves her...she checks every box the dems are trying to fill aside from skin color, but shes entitled enough to loudly proclaim that black people who dont vote for her aint black.

[RRR3]

Me too... although I laugh every time he opens his denture-filled mouth :oldlol:

Hillary makes a ton of sense from a neoliberal democrat point of view. Its her turn - she was supposed to win in 2016 and got cheated by the american working class (or russia...if you're retarded enough to believe that). Unlike Liz Warren, the media loves her, the giant corporations love her, the military industrial complex loves her...she checks every box the dems are trying to fill aside from skin color, but shes entitled enough to loudly proclaim that black people who dont vote for her aint black.
I doubt Biden is even in charge of picking the VP tbh. Dude probably has trouble picking which cereal to eat at this point.

[Nanners]

I doubt Biden is even in charge of picking the VP tbh. Dude probably has trouble picking which cereal to eat at this point.

All the more reason it will be Hillary

[RRR3]

All the more reason it will be Hillary
I support this solely for the memes. They have truly learned nothing from 2016.

[Patrick Chewing]

Currently the betting makets have Kamala Harris as the favorite... but given the disastrous plastic surgery she had recently I am pretty skeptical (she looks like jack nicholsons joker)

Despite the fact that Biden said he was going to pick a black woman as his VP, my guess would be Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren. Biden already made it clear that he thinks blacks owe him their votes by default, so there zero pressure for him to follow through on that promise (who else are you gonna vote for?)... and he probably doesnt even remember this promise considering his dimentia has become so bad that he clearly doesnt even know where he is at any given moment (its not like it should be hard to remember... ffs he has spent the past ~4 months in the same place - hiding in his basement).

Kamala "I've put more Black people in jail than any of the other candidates combined" Harris


Kamala "I admitted smoking pot an a radio show, but put people in jail for doing the same" Harris


:oldlol:

[diamenz]

Currently the betting makets have Kamala Harris as the favorite... but given the disastrous plastic surgery she had recently I am pretty skeptical (she looks like jack nicholsons joker)

Despite the fact that Biden said he was going to pick a black woman as his VP, my guess would be Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren. Biden already made it clear that he thinks blacks owe him their votes by default, so there zero pressure for him to follow through on that promise (who else are you gonna vote for?)... and he probably doesnt even remember this promise considering his dimentia has become so bad that he clearly doesnt even know where he is at any given moment (its not like it should be hard to remember... ffs he has spent the past ~4 months in the same place - hiding in his basement).

holy shit what the f***?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l18VIbmXeVk

[RRR3]

Yeah Kamala looking pretty weird.

[~primetime~]

I wish it was Kamala debating Trump...that would be the Thrilla in Manilla...neither of them hold back

[Patrick Chewing]

holy shit what the f***?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l18VIbmXeVk

Look at her eyes. Black and lifeless. As a Christian, I have studied Demonology and she is clearly possessed. If I had to take a guess, it's the demon Empusa, who is known as a shape-shifter. That would explain her facial changes.

[RRR3]

Look at her eyes. Black and lifeless. As a Christian, I have studied Demonology and she is clearly possessed. If I had to take a guess, it's the demon Empusa, who is known as a shape-shifter. That would explain her facial changes.
Lol yeah, it couldn’t be plastic surgery, that makes too much sense.

It must mean demons!!!!!


You religious freaks crack me up.

[Patrick Chewing]

Lol yeah, it couldn’t be plastic surgery, that makes too much sense.

It must mean demons!!!!!


You religious freaks crack me up.

Sadly, you are also possessed by a demon. But only you can fight her off and be righteous again under God. Your demons name is Caitlyn.

[RRR3]

Sadly, you are also possessed by a demon. But only you can fight her off and be righteous again under God. Your demons name is Caitlyn.
Was this supposed to be funny?

There is no god.

[Patrick Chewing]

Was this supposed to be funny?

There is no god.

I wish it was. But this is a very serious matter. Demonic possession only leads to a quicker demise. And judging by your lack of general common sense, I would assume you are in your 20's? You have your whole life ahead of you. Do you find yourself getting triggered a lot? Are you angry all the time? Do you hate things? Are you anti-God? All signs of demonic possession. And let's face it, we're all witness to you getting triggered a lot, so the signs are there for all to see. But only your true friends will tell you. Don't forget that.

[RRR3]

I wish it was. But this is a very serious matter. Demonic possession only leads to a quicker demise. And judging by your lack of general common sense, I would assume you are in your 20's? You have your whole life ahead of you. Do you find yourself getting triggered a lot? Are you angry all the time? Do you hate things? Are you anti-God? All signs of demonic possession. And let's face it, we're all witness to you getting triggered a lot, so the signs are there for all to see. But only your true friends will tell you. Don't forget that.
Literally the only thing you got right is that I’m in my 20s and have my whole life ahead of me. Put down the Bible, champ, it’s poisoning your mind.

[Patrick Chewing]

Literally the only thing you got right is that I’m in my 20s and have my whole life ahead of me. Put down the Bible, champ, it’s poisoning your mind.

You're incapable of niceness and goodness. I'm extending my hand to you, and you bat it away. This is a sign. Caitlyn has a stranglehold on you.

[TheMan]

:roll:

its beyond hilarious to see a simpleton who spent much of the past 3 years obsessing over the russiagate conspiracy claim that they arent a conspiracy theorist

even absurd conspiracies like chemtrails and UFOs have more convincing evidence than russiagate
Bro, I wasn't at all "obsessing" over the Russiagate scandal, did I believe Trump accepted Russia's help in trying to win the election? Well there is that email to Don Jr and the meeting. Did I ever state that there was beyond the shadow of a doubt evidence Trump and Putin stole the election? I never said that...I only pointed out that Trump's own intelligence agencies have said Russia tried to manipulate the election towards Trump, are you refuting that?

[TheMan]

Lol yeah, it couldn’t be plastic surgery, that makes too much sense.

It must mean demons!!!!!


You religious freaks crack me up.

Check the comments, this is where Patty stole that unoriginal "Harris must be a demon" line...and while I do believe in demons, they aren't going around possessing senators, that's just silly talk.

[Patrick Chewing]

Check the comments, this is where Patty stole that unoriginal "Harris must be a demon" line...and while I do believe in demons, they aren't going around possessing senators, that's just silly talk.

Nah man I've been believing in demons for a long, long time. Most politicians sell their soul for their power. Hillary Clinton being one of them.

How some of you can listen to these people and think of them as genuine, God-loving people is beyond me. They lust for power and control. They gain their power by lying to you and making it sound believable, and almost sinister if you don't believe them. We worship too many false idols with politicians being lots of them.

[TheMan]

Nah man I've been believing in demons for a long, long time. Most politicians sell their soul for their power. Hillary Clinton being one of them.

How some of you can listen to these people and think of them as genuine, God-loving people is beyond me. They lust for power and control. They gain their power by lying to you and making it sound believable, and almost sinister if you don't believe them. We worship too many false idols with politicians being lots of them.

And Trump doesn't fit that description perfectly? Haha, dude goes around holding the Good Book upside down (on purpose) when we both know he's never even tried reading it and couldn't mention ONE biblical verse from his "favorite book", that right there is Antichrist territory bro

[Patrick Chewing]

And Trump doesn't fit that description perfectly? Haha, dude goes around holding the Good Book upside down (on purpose) when we both know he's never even tried reading it and couldn't mention ONE biblical verse from his "favorite book", that right there is Antichrist territory bro

Predictable that you would bring it back to Trump. You seriously have Trump Derangement Syndrome. You can't hold a political conversation without bringing up Trump's name. Even if you and I were to agree, your Derangement takes hold of you, and you have to mention Trump simply because you know that I like Trump and you don't. There is no common ground between you and Trump voters.

I have seen people like you before in my travels. Definite signs of demonic possession. A demon so powerful that it prevents you from reason and objectivity. In fact, it may be two demons.

Ose

The Demon of Insanity

https://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ose.jpg


Pruflas

The Demon of Discord, Quarrels, and Falsehood

https://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/pruflas.jpg

[TheMan]

Predictable that you would bring it back to Trump. You seriously have Trump Derangement Syndrome. You can't hold a political conversation without bringing up Trump's name. Even if you and I were to agree, your Derangement takes hold of you, and you have to mention Trump simply because you know that I like Trump and you don't. There is no common ground between you and Trump voters.

I have seen people like you before in my travels. Definite signs of demonic possession. A demon so powerful that it prevents you from reason and objectivity. In fact, it may be two demons.

Ose

The Demon of Insanity

https://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ose.jpg


Pruflas

The Demon of Discord, Quarrels, and Falsehood

https://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/pruflas.jpg

Same with you and Hillary :confusedshrug:

She's done politically and irrelevant but that doesn't stop you from mentioning her or Slick Willy at least once or twice a day, that's CDS and you got it, you've also accussed them of worse shit than I've accussed Trump, like way worse. You've accussed them of murder, rape, pedophilia, sex trafficking and being demons, lulz

You have Clinton Derengement Syndrome

Seek help

[RRR3]

Chewy is literally a caricature of a conservative.

[Nanners]

Chewy is literally a caricature of a conservative.

hes also an idiot, and yet somehow the libtards on this site are so goddamn stupid they manage to make him look like a ****ing genius on a near daily basis

anyway as a fellow idiot, I find patty to be a very inspirational role model... and how dare you besmirch his name

[Patrick Chewing]

hes also an idiot, and yet somehow the libtards on this site are so goddamn stupid they manage to make him look like a ****ing genius on a near daily basis

anyway as a fellow idiot, I find patty to be a very inspirational role model... and how dare you besmirch his name

After carefully studying Nanners for quite some time now, and based on my Demonology experience on my various travels, I find Nanners to be clear of possession. He is of strong character with the ability to fight and ward off evil.

[RRR3]

hes also an idiot, and yet somehow the libtards on this site are so goddamn stupid they manage to make him look like a ****ing genius on a near daily basis

anyway as a fellow idiot, I find patty to be a very inspirational role model... and how dare you besmirch his name
Idk man I haven’t seen any liberals say anything as insane as “demons are possessing politicians”

[Nanners]

After carefully studying Nanners for quite some time now, and based on my Demonology experience on my various travels, I find Nanners to be clear of possession. He is of strong character with the ability to fight and ward off evil.

Not to dismiss your studies and travels (no doubt you are a highly cultured man of vast education and intelligence), but TBH I feel as if I probably am possessed... but not in a bad/evil way, I believe I am possessed by the spirit of yeezus

Praise be to Kanye for trying to show all us jabroni americans the way (esp the democrats, theyre the worst)... I pray that he vanquishes the racist/rapist Joe Biden and his worthless establishment democrat supporters back into the dumpster that spawned them

And before anyone tries to complain about this post, why dont you go **** yourselves first? Black lives matter you racist bitches, and Kanyes life obviously matters the most.

[bladefd]

I will laugh so hard if he picks Hillary :lol

He won't. Heads of democrat party know to avoid Hillary and to distance themselves after the 2016 blunder. If they have over 70 IQ, they will avoid even considering Hillary as vp.

[bladefd]

holy shit what the f***?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l18VIbmXeVk

She should have hired Ivanka and the Trump family's plastic surgeon. They do a pretty good job of making even ugly people look hot

[Nanners]

If they have over 70 IQ, they will avoid even considering Hillary as vp.


:oldlol:

have you heard biden speak lately? Hes probably sub 50 at this point. My refrigerator could outsmart him

[RRR3]

He won't. Heads of democrat party know to avoid Hillary and to distance themselves after the 2016 blunder. If they have over 70 IQ, they will avoid even considering Hillary as vp.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re willing to risk Trump winning again for the chance at getting Hillary the presidency. You have too much faith in the establishment. I get it, though, I used to think they were the good guys too. Unfortunately, there are probably less than 20 members of Congress who could be called good people, and none of them have any real power in the Democratic Party.

[bladefd]

:oldlol:

have you heard biden speak lately? Hes probably sub 50 at this point. My refrigerator could outsmart him

It's not exactly Biden's choice. They are going to choose the vp with highest popularity. They have been sending out surveys for months to anyone a member of the Democrat party to dwindle down the vp candidates. Hillary ain't on the list

[RRR3]

It's not exactly Biden's choice. They are going to choose the vp with highest popularity. They have been sending out surveys for months to anyone a member of the Democrat party to dwindle down the vp candidates. Hillary ain't on the list
If they gave a shit about who the people wanted, Bernie would be the nominee.

[Nanners]

It's not exactly Biden's choice. They are going to choose the vp with highest popularity. They have been sending out surveys for months to anyone a member of the Democrat party to dwindle down the vp candidates. Hillary ain't on the list

What do you mean "they"? Is Biden not in control of his own campaign? (no need to actually answer this, we all know the answer already lol)

If "they" were actually interested in chosing the VP with the highest popularity, Bernie would be the obvious choice by a mile. Currently the betting markets have Kamala ranked #1, and her popularity is laughably bad... so what the **** are you talking about?

[RRR3]

Even if he picked Bernie, I would need a guarantee Biden is gonna die in office before I vote for that ticket. Biden is literally the second worst candidate the DNC could have forced through (Bloomberg AKA competent Trump was even worse)

[coin24]

Bro, I wasn't at all "obsessing" over the Russiagate scandal, did I believe Trump accepted Russia's help in trying to win the election? Well there is that email to Don Jr and the meeting. Did I ever state that there was beyond the shadow of a doubt evidence Trump and Putin stole the election? I never said that...I only pointed out that Trump's own intelligence agencies have said Russia tried to manipulate the election towards Trump, are you refuting that?


You simps wrote daily essays and were obsessed over the Russia and impeachment garbage. TDS sheep

[Nanners]

Even if he picked Bernie, I would need a guarantee Biden is gonna die in office before I vote for that ticket.

hes basically dead already... he cant produce anything resembling a coherent sentence, and he looks like a skeleton with a poorly fitting skin suit

[Patrick Chewing]

He won't. Heads of democrat party know to avoid Hillary and to distance themselves after the 2016 blunder. If they have over 70 IQ, they will avoid even considering Hillary as vp.

The average IQ of Democrats is fairly low when the last two people they've elected to be the Democrat nominee have been Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.

[RRR3]

hes basically dead already... he cant produce anything resembling a coherent sentence, and he looks like a skeleton with a poorly fitting skin suit
His brain is dead, but as long as he’s the President, neoliberal ****ery will transpire, no matter who the veep is.

[RRR3]

The DNC is obviously corrupt considering the last two people they've rigged to be the Democrat nominee have been Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden.
Fixed

[Nanners]

Its kind of hilarious (in a dark and tragic way, which is obviously the best kind of funny) that the DNC has somehow managed to convince a large segment of americans that they are the party of morality... given the fact that 2016 dem candidate (the greatest loser of all time) was an unapologetic racist and a psychopathic warmongerer... and given the fact that Obama is a war criminal who reduced Libya from having the highest standard of living in all of Africa to having open air slave markets (he also facilitated the Saudi/US genocide in Yemen with his nobel peace bombs)... and given the fact Biden literally wrote the crime bill that exploded the prison population and turned the incarceration of black americans into an entire industry... and given the fact that Biden also wrote the goddamn patriot act.

[RRR3]

Its kind of hilarious (in a dark and tragic way, which is obviously the best kind of funny) that the DNC has somehow managed to convince a large segment of americans that they are the party of morality... given the fact that 2016 dem candidate (the greatest loser of all time) was an unapologetic racist and a psychopathic warmongerer... and given the fact that Obama is a war criminal who reduced Libya from having the highest standard of living in all of Africa to having open air slave markets (he also facilitated the Saudi/US genocide in Yemen with his nobel peace bombs)... and given the fact Biden literally wrote the crime bill that exploded the prison population and turned the incarceration of black americans into an entire industry... and given the fact that Biden also wrote the goddamn patriot act.
People like ignoring Obama’s foreign policy. I used to do it too before I stopped lying to myself and bothered to pay attention.

[Nanners]

People like ignoring Obama’s foreign policy. I used to do it too before I stopped lying to myself and bothered to pay attention.

TBH I kinda hope Biden wins, just because I want the TDS suffering libtards who are currently tearing this country apart to go back to ignoring all the evil and despicable shit our govt does on a daily basis (like they did during the Obama years)...

[Patrick Chewing]

I miss the days of drone strikes, bowing to foreign leaders, releasing terrorists, destabilizing Arab countries, and paying ransoms to hostile countries. We need those good ol' days back!

[Nanners]

Personally I will never be able to support another drone strike unless a black trans person is pressing the "bomb" button... its disgusting that we have chosen to elevate straight white males to be our war criminals for the past several decades

trans people are capable of slaughtering innocent civilians just as efficiently as straight people, and if you believe otherwise you are a racist and transphobic ******.

[RRR3]

I miss the days of drone strikes, bowing to foreign leaders, releasing terrorists, destabilizing Arab countries, and paying ransoms to hostile countries. We need those good ol' days back!
All of that is still happening :lol

Trump is more of the same old shit, but hey he writes some funny tweets so he’s “different”.

[Rolando]

Alright. I will make a bold prediction:

Trump wins it. And, like last time, the popular vote will go to Biden.....except even more decisively than it did for Hillary.

The results will be met with massive protests and riots. Why? Because these same people are out in the streets even as we speak. Trump is making a mistake by not calming the situation down ahead time. If the current social unrest and protests are allowed to continue, right through the election, there is likely to be a complete social meltdown in the States.....If Trump wins and the popular vote is drastically opposite of this result.

How likely is the social unrest to continue right up to the elections? Extremely likely. Unemployment is way up. People will start to be evicted from their apartments and homes soon on a mass scale. And the corona virus will be raging unchecked.

I predict a complete and utter disaster.

[RRR3]

There will be protests regardless of who wins tbh.

[Rolando]

There will be protests regardless of who wins tbh.

But the "Left" is already out there. They have inertia. After months of protesting, the organization and strategies will be even more refined as well.

How much protest to you think the people on the "Right" can even muster? If Biden wins, which is questionable, he certainly will have the popular vote that goes with it. Will Trump's strategy be to claim massive voter fraud? (Very likely, I would guess.)

[TheMan]

You simps wrote daily essays and were obsessed over the Russia and impeachment garbage. TDS sheep

Go find that Russiagate thread, I bet I'm not even top 10 posters who posted in that thread :confusedshrug: I even admonished the guys who posted that they were wasting their time...I dare you to bring up that thread.

[KD7]

Biden winning would be an absolute travesty for the entire world, not just America

[Doomsday Dallas]

Alright. I will make a bold prediction:

Trump wins it. And, like last time, the popular vote will go to Biden.....except even more decisively than it did for Hillary.

The results will be met with massive protests and riots. Why? Because these same people are out in the streets even as we speak. Trump is making a mistake by not calming the situation down ahead time. If the current social unrest and protests are allowed to continue, right through the election, there is likely to be a complete social meltdown in the States.....If Trump wins and the popular vote is drastically opposite of this result.

How likely is the social unrest to continue right up to the elections? Extremely likely. Unemployment is way up. People will start to be evicted from their apartments and homes soon on a mass scale. And the corona virus will be raging unchecked.

I predict a complete and utter disaster.

Wells said Rolando, well said.

[bladefd]

What do you mean "they"? Is Biden not in control of his own campaign? (no need to actually answer this, we all know the answer already lol)

If "they" were actually interested in chosing the VP with the highest popularity, Bernie would be the obvious choice by a mile. Currently the betting markets have Kamala ranked #1, and her popularity is laughably bad... so what the **** are you talking about?

"They" = Democrat party heads.. people like Pelosi, Schumer, Obama, other superdelegates.. (mostly the moderates who have power over the Democrat party)

We all know whoever is VP is going to be running things. Biden is only there to give speeches and leadership. If he truly has dementia, he will not be fully able to do the policy portion by himself - not without a VP with tremendous power/control.

Why would they choose Bernie to run things as VP? They don't want progressive to run things or determine the vision. Choosing Bernie would be akin to Democrat party choosing Hillary if Democrat party was progressive and if Bernie was on verge of dementia. Why would a progressive Democrat party choose a moderate Hillary as VP to run things and determine the future of the party? Similarly, why would a moderate Democrat party choose Bernie, a progressive?

[JohnnySic]

The protests are overstated. They're only happening in a few cities where the local Democrats are enabling them. Once that support vanishes, they will fizzle out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed9_J06XoAkwE9O?format=jpg&name=small

[Doomsday Dallas]

Look at her eyes. Black and lifeless. As a Christian, I have studied Demonology and she is clearly possessed. If I had to take a guess, it's the demon Empusa, who is known as a shape-shifter. That would explain her facial changes.

Well said Patrick Chewing, well said.

[Patrick Chewing]

Go find that Russiagate thread, I bet I'm not even top 10 posters who posted in that thread :confusedshrug: I even admonished the guys who posted that they were wasting their time...I dare you to bring up that thread.

Let’s not pretend like you weren’t chirping on a daily basis about how Trump colluded with Russia.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Care to make it interesting?

Biden and the Dems will win so big, Trump won't dare try to stay, and the military won't back him either so he WILL leave, bitching and moaning about how unfair it is and all but he will leave regardless. Either that or he will be forcibly removed, in handcuffs if need be.



Trump shaking Biden's hand and leaving the White House is not in the cards... I don't know what is, but it won't be that.

Wouldn't it just make more sense for Trump to win, and that way we can continue to burn our cities to the ground? Makes sense to me.



The scenario of which Trump loses the election and shakes Biden's hand on the way out the door does not exist.

I'm glad we can all agree on that.

[DoctorP]

https://hollow-hill.com/sabina/media/groucho-on-politics-550x330.jpg

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpnsTkai6XQ

[Nanners]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpnsTkai6XQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k3TwzTtCG0

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k3TwzTtCG0

lol.... good pick for Hillary


lol @ Alex Jones

[Nanners]

lol.... good pick for Hillary


lol @ Alex Jones

you know as kids, as you do, you know you play cowboys and indiannnnssss... and never once did I want to be the cowboy, never once....

... I wanted to be the indian

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[TheMan]

Let’s not pretend like you weren’t chirping on a daily basis about how Trump colluded with Russia.

Again, because I know Trump did welcome Putin's help doesn't mean I was posting everyday, haha, not even close...again, I challenge you to bring up that thread.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/investing/election-stock-market-trump-biden/index.html

Wall Street's worst nightmare isn't Trump or Biden. It's no clear winner at all


New York (CNN Business)President Donald Trump has already declared the 2020 election the "most rigged" in American history. His opponent, former Vice President Joe Biden, has warned that Trump might not leave the White House willingly, and Trump hasn't confirmed he would accept unfavorable election results should he lose.

It's easy to imagine a scenario where no winner is known for days, weeks or longer following the November 3 election.
A protracted dispute over the outcome would be a nightmare for investors, who famously loathe uncertainty. And what's more uncertain than a contested election that raises questions about the peaceful transfer of power in the world's largest economy?

"There is a creeping concern," David Kotok, co-founder and chief investment officer of Cumberland Advisors, told CNN Business. "If it appears too close to call, we're going to get a market correction as we get closer to the election


CNN is basically telling you that this alleged "market correction" will be happening here in a few months. Just an FYI for all you people that have been anxious about investing... might want to hold off until that correction hits.

[Derka]

Biden picks up Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Trump holds everything else he won in '16...but that's 278 for Biden and that's the ball game. If he manages to run the electoral score up some, it'll be Florida and Arizona. The RNC had to spend money in Texas for the first time in decades and its still close with a lot of undecideds, which is f*cking bonkers. Some other states like North Carolina and Ohio are in play but I think the undecideds there will fall for Donny. If Biden wins a mandate, it'll be with 50-51%.

The more exciting (if you're a nerd) races are the Senate races. GOP is going to pick Alabama back up, but the Dems are looking real good to take North Carolina, Colorado, Arizona and Maine. Even more bonkers is that races in South Carolina, Georgia and Iowa with GOP incumbents are waaay too close and Trump is too toxic to campaign down ticket for these people.

[~primetime~]

Biden picks up Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Trump holds everything else he won in '16...but that's 278 for Biden and that's the ball game. If he manages to run the electoral score up some, it'll be Florida and Arizona. The RNC had to spend money in Texas for the first time in decades and its still close with a lot of undecideds, which is f*cking bonkers. Some other states like North Carolina and Ohio are in play but I think the undecideds there will fall for Donny. If Biden wins a mandate, it'll be with 50-51%.

The more exciting (if you're a nerd) races are the Senate races. GOP is going to pick Alabama back up, but the Dems are looking real good to take North Carolina, Colorado, Arizona and Maine. Even more bonkers is that races in South Carolina, Georgia and Iowa with GOP incumbents are waaay too close and Trump is too toxic to campaign down ticket for these people.

I think Biden has Florida locked down at this point...too many seniors bent our of shape over covid

[RRR3]

I predict Wall Street will be happy regardless

[FourthTenor]

Biden picks up Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and Trump holds everything else he won in '16...but that's 278 for Biden and that's the ball game. If he manages to run the electoral score up some, it'll be Florida and Arizona. The RNC had to spend money in Texas for the first time in decades and its still close with a lot of undecideds, which is f*cking bonkers. Some other states like North Carolina and Ohio are in play but I think the undecideds there will fall for Donny. If Biden wins a mandate, it'll be with 50-51%.

The more exciting (if you're a nerd) races are the Senate races.GOP is going to pick Alabama back up, but the Dems are looking real good to take North Carolina, Colorado, Arizona and Maine. Even more bonkers is that races in South Carolina, Georgia and Iowa with GOP incumbents are waaay too close and Trump is too toxic to campaign down ticket for these people.

I think what you mean is, “If you follow politics for sport as an investment in pride and ego”

[~primetime~]

Here is a summary of the polling differences between Hillary 2016 and Biden 2020 for the month of August.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/20/bidenclinton_vs_trump_comparing_20202016_polling_g aps_144006.html


So Biden is polling better than Hillary was, by a lot actually...Hillary(6) Biden(10)

But what's crazy is that Trump has actually gained ground with non-whites by a small amount

https://assets.realclear.com/images/51/518867_5_.jpg

[diamenz]

^ is that up to date? i saw some headlines the other day saying that biden's lead has shrunk to hillary 16 levels.

[FourthTenor]

Here is a summary of the polling differences between Hillary 2016 and Biden 2020 for the month of August.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/20/bidenclinton_vs_trump_comparing_20202016_polling_g aps_144006.html


So Biden is polling better than Hillary was, by a lot actually...Hillary(6) Biden(10)

But what's crazy is that Trump has actually gained ground with non-whites by a small amount

https://assets.realclear.com/images/51/518867_5_.jpg


Probably because theyre closer to shit that matters, like jobs and criminal justice reform. Those are areas Trump has superior policy.

Gossip loving generic middle class white people are obsessed with shit like Stormy Daniels and tax returns; and whatever other simplistic E! Channel non-issue controversies the news can come up with to sell them.

Like you.

[coin24]

A lot of people will be quiet like last time and go out and vote trump.
No one wants another democratic murderer like Obama in. 4trayvon:cheers:

[FourthTenor]

Also, peoples comfort level with answering “Trump” in a poll of any kind is probably at an all time low simply for physical safety concerns. On election day it will likely be much different, which youre probably too insecure to acknowledge.

[diamenz]

Also, peoples comfort level with answering “Trump” in a poll of any kind is probably at an all time low simply for physical safety concerns. On election day it will likely be much different, which youre probably too insecure to acknowledge.

there's truth to this. i remember hearing about folks who wouldn't admit to voting for trump for the sake of avoiding animosity with their own liberal family members... voters who by the way voted for barack in 08, but switched to trump in 16.

believe it or not, a big chunk of 'trump america' doesn't look like the trash you see at the rallies.

[~primetime~]

^ is that up to date? i saw some headlines the other day saying that biden's lead has shrunk to hillary 16 levels.

it's dated today


but we still have all of Sep and Oct...so that is plenty of time for Biden's lead to shrink up and I expect it to as covid clears up.

But I do think that it will be very hard for Trump to regain Florida at this point, and I also think that Biden has an advantage over Hillary in that no one is taking polls seriously this time, the left stay home assuming Trump can't win.

[TheMan]

Also, peoples comfort level with answering “Trump” in a poll of any kind is probably at an all time low simply for physical safety concerns. On election day it will likely be much different, which youre probably too insecure to acknowledge.
Why would you not answer honestly? It's not like they are asking for your personal info, aren't all these polls anonymous?

Anyways, I agree, I wouldn't place a whole lot of faith into polls, but the reason I think Biden will win is simple and I know this is superficial af but black people will go out and support Biden strictly to get Kamala Harris in the White House. I saw a study that showed that black people's support for Hillary fell off significantly from the previous elections (Obama) by double digits in three lean blue states like WI, MI and PA. If blacks come out in force, all Biden needs is to win the states HRC won and pick up those 3 states that are already lean blue to begin with, plus Biden is popular in the Rust Belt.

There was a reason Trump wanted so badly to get dirt on Biden, he saw him as his biggest challenge, it would've been much easier to label Sanders as a commie and scare old folks into avoiding Bernie like the plague. This is where I felt Biden being a run of the mill old white dude vanilla candidate would be a major plus, he's the safe pick for those tried of Trump's chaotic presidency and who want a return to "normalcy".

[TheMan]

it's dated today


but we still have all of Sep and Oct...so that is plenty of time for Biden's lead to shrink up and I expect it to as covid clears up.

But I do think that it will be very hard for Trump to regain Florida at this point, and I also think that Biden has an advantage over Hillary in that no one is taking polls seriously this time, the left stay home assuming Trump can't win.

Health experts fully expect a second wave as the weather gets cold and people let their guard down. I hope it doesn't happen but that's what they are predicting.

[Nanners]

If you want to "funnel" more wealth into your bank account, work hard for it. Like I said, just throwing money at these people isn't going to get them out of the ghetto and out of poverty.



And let's get back to the Federal troops things since a lot of you are repeating CNN talking points. Federal troops aren't snatching people up or anything of the sort. Federal troops protect federal buildings. Simple as that. If spineless Lib Mayor's won't protect these buildings, then the President will.

The quickest way to end these protests would probably be to just let the protesters burn down a couple buildings... my liberal friends in Portland are getting tired of trying to defend the actions of these rioters, and I think a massive arson or something like that would almost certainly result in the majority of liberal Portlanders turning against antifa and demanding that their elected officials put an end to the riots.

[Lion's pride]

Predictions???? trump wins = CHAOS plus looting and burning.. Biden Wins = economic disaster .... then looting and burning...

Conclusion .... WE ARE F*CKED !!!

[Nanners]

A month ago I was thinking Joe Biden was going to sleep walk into office, but between the terrible choice of Kamala as VP, the cringe factory that is the dem convention, and the fact that people are finally starting to question Bidens physical and mental fil, his physical and mental filt, fitness... things seem to be looking up for Trump lately.

Even if the dems win in 2020, they are putting themselves in a really precarious position going into the future. One thing that is really striking in the clips I have seen from the convention is that it seems like virtually everyone speaking for the dem party is either extremely really old and out-of-touch (Pelosi, Schumer, Bill Clinton, etc...), transparently fake and cringey (Kamala, Buttgig, Whitmer, etc...) or both (Biden, Hillary, Warren, Kerry, Andrew Cuomo, etc...). The only speakers in the entire party that young people are actually interested in listening to are AOC (who got 1 minute to speak), the Obamas, and Bernie.

In addition to snubbing the few popular politicians they have (like AOC and Bernie) so they can give more speaking time to ex-republicans, out-of-touch geriatrics, and transparent phonies, the content of the speeches have almost exclusively been combinations of meaningless pandering and platitudes, hypocritical moralizing, and divisive identity politics. The convention has zero humor, zero excitement, and zero joy... its just a circlejerk of fear and dispair, fire and brimstone. In some ways it almost feels like watching a church service (and not the fun kind church where people are singing and flailing around speaking tounges... the DNC is the kind of church where the only thing that matters is "obey" and the pastors spend most of their time diddling kids on tropical islands).

If the dems continue down this road of pandering to corporate donors, suburban wine moms, and their supporters in the professional managerial class... a road where they endlessly trot out the same stable of ancient and/or cringeworthy politicians (politicians like Pelosi and Clinton - that are widely hated by the public at large), while shunning their popular upstarts, and spending all of their time hypocritically moralizing and bloviating about "civility" and "progress"... they are putting themselves in danger of losing their status as party of the youth, and the party of "cool". Young people are rebellious by nature, and the vast majority of them have no interest in listening to old and out-of-touch hypocrite attempting to moralize at them. While most young folks will probably vote dem in 2020... but unless the dems can throw out all the old trash that is weighing down the party and embrace their future leaders, they will be putting themselves at huge risk for 2024 and beyond.

[FourthTenor]

A

If the dems continue down this road of pandering to corporate donors, suburban wine moms, and their supporters in the professional managerial class... a road where they endlessly trot out the same stable of ancient and/or cringeworthy politicians (politicians like Pelosi and Clinton - that are widely hated by the public at large), while shunning their popular upstarts, and spending all of their time hypocritically moralizing and bloviating about "civility" and "progress"... they are putting themselves in danger of losing their status as party of the youth, and the party of "cool". Young people are rebellious by nature, and the vast majority of them have no interest in listening to old and out-of-touch hypocrite attempting to moralize at them. While most young folks will probably vote dem in 2020... but unless the dems can throw out all the old trash that is weighing down the party and embrace their future leaders, they will be putting themselves at huge risk for 2024 and beyond.


Yeah but that old trash is who runs the party. Handing it over to younger/different interests is basically kissing their own agenda goodbye. They might as well ride it to the end and take their chances coming up with new riots and flu bugs often enough to fear monger people into their clutches.

I mean who’s in charge of “Democrats” anyway? The DNC is a private institution, not any official government bureau. It’s basically a group with big money, fooling people into thinking they have some kind of authority on choosing the pretend-left wing presidential candidate. Nobody has to honor this shit. But the media decides which candidates get press in the primaries, and funnels all the approved corporate-bureaucrat stooges into the ring, making people think its some kind of choice, and then the parties just let people pick whichever clone they think they like. Trump and Bernie was probably the first instance in a century that it didnt go according to plan, and oligarchs are doubling down to avoid letting it happen again. The clamps on speech and dissent are coming down HARD.

AOC and Bernie and all these supposed revolutionaries should have held their own convention and said fvck the Democrats, we’re staying out of this election and worrying about putting our own principles into action etc. But thats the prob with bureaucrats and career politicians. They pretty much have no choice but to play ball, bc it’s literally their only trade. Thats how they make their bones. They dont trust the “grassroots” for anything but getting them elected. If they fall out of the good graces of the powerful DNC and have to rely on the average hump to actually follow through on all the stuff they claim to be about? Believe you me, theyre gonna wind up with boxes of leftover razor blades.

[Nanners]

If you want to see why the dems are at risk of losing young people, compare the campaign ads

Biden ads - overly serious (oh the humanity!), moralizing, empty platitudes... and overall boring. There is zero joy and zero excitement here, just bland corporate drivel.

The top viewed ad (3.3m views in 28 days) on Bidens youtube channel (126k subscribers) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwKa1tfxxE

Bidens second most viewed ad (1.5m views in 30 days) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtezH4yVk5A

versus Trump ads - Funny and easy to watch, with no empty platitudes or moralizing. For the most part, these ads are mainly just collections of Biden soundbites highlighting the absurd levels of hypocrisy in the Biden campaign and dem party.

The top viewed ad (13m views in 3 days) on Trumps youtube channel (776k subscribers) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5y8QA1wCcc

Heres another one (12m views in 3 days) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRKzpp7w58o

Or this (12m views in 3 days) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOradie8WzI&

Finally, this hilarious masterpiece of an ad, which doesnt have quite as many views as the others (*only* 6m views in 3 days), but it feels like it was created by a 4chan teenager and targeted at 4chan teens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ro0b4RJWTQ& ....... that Hillary cackle at the end :roll: :roll:


BTW - check out the top comments on those Trump ads, and compare them to the comments on the Biden ads...jk, Bidens comments are turned off :oldlol:

[bladefd]

I agree DNC was cringeworthy as hell. The Republican convention will be even more cringeworthy. I worry about the future of America.. It is totally in the wrong hands. I don't know where we will be through the decade. I hope we get some new powerful young leaders rise through the ranks like FDR/Lincoln/JFK/etc. If there is a time, it would be right about now where the country needs that person. Doesn't matter what party but we need someone charismatic, young, sharp, outspoken, savvy, kind, smart and not a wall street shill to step up.

[FourthTenor]

I agree DNC was cringeworthy as hell. The Republican convention will be even more cringeworthy. I worry about the future of America.. It is totally in the wrong hands. I don't know where we will be through the decade. I hope we get some new powerful young leaders rise through the ranks like FDR/Lincoln/JFK/etc. If there is a time, it would be right about now where the country needs that person. Doesn't matter what party but we need someone charismatic, young, sharp, outspoken, savvy, kind, smart and not a wall street shill to step up.

Yeah, this typifies the public mentality. “Wait for a hero.”

People themselves should focus on being more charismatic, outspoken, savvy, kind, smart, and not wall street shills. How about that? Instead of being unlearned sissy fools. Then they wouldnt be such easy pickins.

Nobody who “rises thru the ranks” of politics is gonna rescue all the pink haired freaks and trailer park meth junkies that fill this country :lol

Improve or DIE MUTHERUKKER.

Those are your choices in dis lyfe.

[Nanners]

Yeah but that old trash is who runs the party.

The republican party was run by the Bush family and the warmongering neocons until Trump came along and exposed them as frauds on national TV... the progressive wing of the needs to find their own Trump, a comedian type of person who is willing to openly mock and expose the absurdity and hypocrisy of the dem leadership. Tulsi Gabbard showed what is possible when she exposed and ended Kamalas campaign in about 1 minute during that debate... I think she could have easily demolished basically everyone else on that debate stage if she had wanted to.


Handing it over to younger/different interests is basically kissing their own agenda goodbye.

Well yeah... my basic argument is that they are going to have to kiss their agenda goodbye (or parts of it at least) if they want to survive into the future... the question is whether the dems willingly chose to change their agenda and demeanor, whether some trumplike upstart comes along and forces the party to change its agenda, whether the party continues to suppress progressives until theres a right-wing populist that is able to bring young progressives into the republican party, or whether the progressives abandon the dem party and create something new and the dem party joins the whigs in the history books.



I mean who’s in charge of “Democrats” anyway?

Billionaires, bankers, giant corporations... etc


AOC and Bernie and all these supposed revolutionaries should have held their own convention and said fvck the Democrats, we’re staying out of this election and worrying about putting our own principles into action etc. But thats the prob with bureaucrats and career politicians. They pretty much have no choice but to play ball, bc it’s literally their only trade. Thats how they make their bones. They dont trust the “grassroots” for anything but getting them elected. If they fall out of the good graces of the powerful DNC and have to rely on the average hump to actually follow through on all the stuff they claim to be about? Believe you me, theyre gonna wind up with boxes of leftover razor blades.

The problem with Bernie is that despite his big heart, he has no spine and has no balls. If Bernie had told the DNC "You corrupt jabronies cheated me in 2016 and I still endorsed Hillary, but if you cheat me in 2020 I will tell my supporters to abandon the party", he would be the nominee right now.

[FourthTenor]

The republican party was run by the Bush family and the warmongering neocons until Trump came along and exposed them as frauds on national TV... the progressive wing of the needs to find their own Trump, a comedian type of person who is willing to openly mock and expose the absurdity and hypocrisy of the dem leadership. Tulsi Gabbard showed what is possible when she exposed and ended Kamalas campaign in about 1 minute during that debate... I think she could have easily demolished basically everyone else on that debate stage if she had wanted to.



Well yeah... my basic argument is that they are going to have to kiss their agenda goodbye (or parts of it at least) if they want to survive into the future... the question is whether the dems willingly chose to change their agenda and demeanor, whether some trumplike upstart comes along and forces the party to change its agenda, whether the party continues to suppress progressives until theres a right-wing populist that is able to bring young progressives into the republican party, or whether the progressives abandon the dem party and create something new and the dem party joins the whigs in the history books.




Billionaires, bankers, giant corporations... etc



The problem with Bernie is that despite his big heart, he has no spine and has no balls. If Bernie had told the DNC "You corrupt jabronies cheated me in 2016 and I still endorsed Hillary, but if you cheat me in 2020 I will tell my supporters to abandon the party", he would be the nominee right now.

Yeah but even this isnt gonna last. The money and interests are simply too great. The amount of sabotage being thrown at Trump is unprecedented, and theyll wrangle back control eventually. Even if he wins this year, the establishment will eventually work to regain control in the long term. It’s also going to be much harder for the DNC to produce a popular headline grabber like Trump IMO bc Dem voters have less sense of humor on average (empircally) and esp over the last ten years the party itself is basically working to outlaw public humor.

I mean look at the way the sheep all crowded into the tent over this Covid thing. Theres no hope for popular uprising. The masses are mindless. Trump and Bernie are like, 15% anti establishment, and theyre already getting sabotaged . If someone even went 50% anti establishment theyd prob just get taken out. And thats only IF the masses started to respond, which realistically they wouldnt anyway. They only move when the group moves, and only politicians already in power and the mainstream media has the ability to really make the group move in a meaningful way.

We’re trapped bro :cry:

[coin24]

That bidening video was hilarious:lol The Kamala laugh at the end was gold!!

[Nanners]

I agree DNC was cringeworthy as hell. The Republican convention will be even more cringeworthy. I worry about the future of America.. It is totally in the wrong hands. I don't know where we will be through the decade. I hope we get some new powerful young leaders rise through the ranks like FDR/Lincoln/JFK/etc. If there is a time, it would be right about now where the country needs that person. Doesn't matter what party but we need someone charismatic, young, sharp, outspoken, savvy, kind, smart and not a wall street shill to step up.

I dont doubt the republican convention will be cringeworthy, but I would bet the farm that overall it is far more entertaining and gets far more viewers.

If the conventions were movies - the DNC convention would be Batman vs Superman - Desperately tries to present itself as deep and meaningful despite being dull and empty, devoid of anything resembling humor or wit, insulting to the intelligence of its viewers with its condescension and laughable sense self importance, and overly serious to the point that its absurdity starts to become hilarious.

The RNC convention is looking like its going to be Batman & Robin - Undoubtedly one of the worst and most cringey movies of all time, but rather than pretending not to be absurd, they embrace the absurdity. A movie with a hilariously stupid plot that is driven by laughably idiotic characters. A movie with plenty of humor (both intentional and unintentional), and a cast that seems to be enjoying themselves.

[Nanners]

That bidening video was hilarious:lol The Kamala laugh at the end was gold!!

Is that supposed to be Kamala? To me it sounds like its supposed to be the cackle Hillary uses as she circles above the dem convention on her broomstick.

[Lakers Legend#32]

No Poll to vote in? Weak.

[TheMan]

People still sit and watch political conventions on TV? :oldlol:

[dude77]

oops

Trump Approval Surges During DNC (https://bongino.com/trump-approval-surges-during-dnc)


In the Rasmussen Poll, President Trump’s approval stood at 47% yesterday – but made an incredible four percentage point leap this morning to 51%. When I reached out to Rasmussen to confirm that the sampling for today’s poll wasn’t taken before the DNC began to air, they said the polling data was being accumulated as the DNC speeches were ongoing




Biden is a candidate that has attracted little enthusiasm, and that has shown up in the DNC’s ratings, which are down by nearly half since 2016 on TV

[dude77]

https://i.ibb.co/ryJtGxn/ddd.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[Nanners]

oops

Trump Approval Surges During DNC (https://bongino.com/trump-approval-surges-during-dnc)

:roll:

Biden has spent the past ~6 months hiding in his basement, because virtually every time he appears in public or opens his mouth he has some kind of gaffe and goes down in the polls... perhaps the rest of the dem party should be hiding in their basements too.

[coin24]

Is that supposed to be Kamala? To me it sounds like its supposed to be the cackle Hillary uses as she circles above the dem convention on her broomstick.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kUXGpFMLxL8

[coin24]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJGI1d96Ns

As long as hes not trump!! How can anyone watch this and vote for biden:oldlol:

[RRR3]

Trump is gonna win again isn’t he? Exactly what the Democrats deserve tbh.

[Patrick Chewing]

People still sit and watch political conventions on TV? :oldlol:

I know you claim you're not a Liberal. But this is what Liberals are saying after completely bombing the Convention for the last 4 days. 48% drop in viewership.

[Nanners]

I know you claim you're not a Liberal. But this is what Liberals are saying after completely bombing the Convention for the last 4 days. 48% drop in viewership.

Some drop in viewership was unavoidable... no doubt millions of people tuned in for the dem convention back in 2016 - watching Hillary and her minions attempt to rewrite history and shit-talk Bernie and his bros was pretty damn entertaining.

[~primetime~]

some good charts on Vegas odds over time (https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insight/specials/politics/20200819-us-presidential-election-odds-biden-and-trump-odds-swing-after-tuesday-at-dnc)

Vegas odds simply show who Americans are putting their money on...which to me is like a poll only the participants are backing their thoughts with their money...and it leans more toward who they think will win and not who they want to win...although I am sure plenty are betting with their hearts rather their brains.

[TheMan]

I know you claim you're not a Liberal. But this is what Liberals are saying after completely bombing the Convention for the last 4 days. 48% drop in viewership.
You don't get to label what my politics are, amigo. I'm against abortion, I don't believe in gender fluidity, homosexuality is abhorrent, feminism is destroying families, I believe in the 2nd ammendment but we need sensible checks to make sure nutcases don't get to waltz into a gun shop and buy arsenals...that sound like a lib to you? The thing here is pal, everyone to the left of you is a liberal since you are way tf out on the rightwing fringe. You are an extremist, I'm a moderate.

[TheMan]

oops

Trump Approval Surges During DNC (https://bongino.com/trump-approval-surges-during-dnc)

Good to see we are believing in polls again :lol

[Nanners]

some good charts on Vegas odds over time (https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insight/specials/politics/20200819-us-presidential-election-odds-biden-and-trump-odds-swing-after-tuesday-at-dnc)

Vegas odds simply show who Americans are putting their money on...which to me is like a poll only the participants are backing their thoughts with their money...and it leans more toward who they think will win and not who they want to win...although I am sure plenty are betting with their hearts rather their brains.

According to oddshark (https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures), Trump has gone from +140 to +115 in the past 2 weeks... is that good or bad?

[Patrick Chewing]

You don't get to label what my politics are, amigo. I'm against abortion, I don't believe in gender fluidity, homosexuality is abhorrent, feminism is destroying families, I believe in the 2nd ammendment but we need sensible checks to make sure nutcases don't get to waltz into a gun shop and buy arsenals...that sound like a lib to you? The thing here is pal, everyone to the left of you is a liberal since you are way tf out on the rightwing fringe. You are an extremist, I'm a moderate.

I hate to break it to you, but you're no moderate. Based on your beliefs, you're Right-Wing like me. You're just in denial for some odd reason.


Welcome to the familia, amigo!

[~primetime~]

You don't get to label what my politics are, amigo. I'm against abortion, I don't believe in gender fluidity, homosexuality is abhorrent, feminism is destroying families, I believe in the 2nd ammendment but we need sensible checks to make sure nutcases don't get to waltz into a gun shop and buy arsenals...that sound like a lib to you? The thing here is pal, everyone to the left of you is a liberal since you are way tf out on the rightwing fringe. You are an extremist, I'm a moderate.

yep the center is where the sane are...the outskirts are where the insane are

all these topics the left and right argue over...

immigration
abortion
gun laws
economy
etc

most of them are complex as fck and grey as fck and too many treat them as black and white issues when the reality of these issues is that the right place to be is somewhere in the center

[TheMan]

I hate to break it to you, but you're no moderate. Based on your beliefs, you're Right-Wing like me. You're just in denial for some odd reason.


Welcome to the familia, amigo!
No I'm not rightwing because I have both rightwing and leftwing views, such as I believe we should have single payer healthcare for all, going to college should be available for everyone and I'm anti corporatism, so no, I don't align totally with the GOP ideology either.

[Nanners]

immigration - do it legally
abortion - stop aborting babies and start aborting ANTIFA and NYT writers
gun laws - all americans should be required to own a gun (except the gays, they will obviously get an exemption)
economy - thanks for destroying it, democrats
etc - etc

[TheMan]

According to oddshark (https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures), Trump has gone from +140 to +115 in the past 2 weeks... is that good or bad?

Trump is gonna lose...why?

Blacks are gonna go out and vote this time, it's sad because it's identity politics but you will see a big surge of black women voting this time. Sleepy Joe/Harris will take lean blue states like WI, PA and MI this time around because of a heavier black vote.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump is gonna lose...why?

Blacks are gonna go out and vote this time, it's sad because it's identity politics but you will see a big surge of black women voting this time. Sleepy Joe/Harris will take lean blue states like WI, PA and MI this time around because of a heavier black vote.


And why would Blacks vote Democrat.....again??

[TheMan]

And why would Blacks vote Democrat.....again??

Because they always do, lol. Great question because I get what you're saying but just look how they came out for Obama...now with Harris I don't think the black vote will come out in those same numbers but there will be a significant surge in black voter turnout compared to 2016 because of Harris.

[~primetime~]

According to oddshark (https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2020-usa-presidential-odds-futures), Trump has gone from +140 to +115 in the past 2 weeks... is that good or bad?

It means he's still a small underdog to Biden but the odds are moving in his favor

[Nanners]

Trump is gonna lose...why?

Blacks are gonna go out and vote this time, it's sad because it's identity politics but you will see a big surge of black women voting this time. Sleepy Joe/Harris will take lean blue states like WI, PA and MI this time around because of a heavier black vote.

Did blacks not come out and vote for Hillary over Trump in 2016?

I dont see why blacks who stayed home in 2016 will feel motivated to come out in 2020... especially considering the fact that Biden wrote the crime bill that resulted in the mass incarceration of blacks, and considering what Kamala did to the black people during her career as a prosecutor.

[Nanners]

It means he's still a small underdog to Biden but the odds are moving in his favor

is that good or bad tho?

[Patrick Chewing]

Because they always do, lol. Great question because I get what you're saying but just look how they came out for Obama...now with Harris I don't think the black vote will come out in those same numbers but there will be a significant surge in black voter turnout compared to 2016 because of Harris.

So you admit that Black voters, a majority of Black voters simply vote based on race?

[~primetime~]

is that good or bad tho?

for Trump?...his odds are getting better

+115 means that if you were to place $100 on him you would win $115...because he is currently a slight underdog...as opposed to winning $140 when he was a much bigger underdog

[Nanners]

for Trump?...his odds are getting better

+115 means that if you were to place $100 on him you would win $115...because he is currently a slight underdog...as opposed to winning $140 when he was a much bigger underdog

Not for Trump, for me and you and the world in general :oldlol:

Anyway I am aware of how odds work, that wasnt really what I was asking about... but I do appreciate that you took time out of your day to spell it out for all the kids around here who try to pretend they are even remotely close to being as retarded as I am :cheers:

[~primetime~]

Vegas odds don't mean anything to me and you and the world in general...their just odds

We can use them to try and grasp the pulse of what Americans are thinking though...there really aren't many decent ways of doing that...but I do feel like looking into who is betting on what cuts closer to reality than most polls.

[TheMan]

So you admit that Black voters, a majority of Black voters simply vote based on race?

Um...yeah?

They aren't the only ones who do it either? How many Cuban Americans have won office in FL basically just because they were Cuban?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_politicians_of_Cuban_descent

Like clockwork, 99% of these Cuban Americans held office in Miami/FL...coincidence? lol

[Doomsday Dallas]

yep the center is where the sane are...the outskirts are where the insane are


there is no middle ground anymore between Republicans & Democrats. There is Trump on One Side and TDS on the other.

the only middle ground one can find in today's world is through an independent 3rd party

[Nanners]

Vegas odds don't mean anything to me and you and the world in general...their just odds

We can use them to try and grasp the pulse of what Americans are thinking though...there really aren't many decent ways of doing that...but I do feel like looking into who is betting on what cuts closer to reality than most polls.

Odds mean everything to me if we're talking about whether I'm going to be forced to deal with another 4 years of liberals melting down every day about manufactured Trump controversies...

Anyway on a serious note I totally agree that looking into the betting will give you a far better idea of reality than the polls. The betting market is based on people putting money on the line, the polls are just the opinions of a couple hundred or thousand people who were bored enough to respond to a poll (these days its usually just a survey of tired old boomers who are too tech illiterate to abandon their ancient landline phones and too lonely to hang up)

[bladefd]

Trump is gonna win again isn’t he? Exactly what the Democrats deserve tbh.

Trump is guaranteed to win. Biden has zero shot. But everyone still should go vote :pimp:

[RRR3]

Trump is guaranteed to win. Biden has zero shot. But everyone still should go vote :pimp:
I'm voting....for Howie Hawkins.

[Nanners]

I'm voting....for Howie Hawkins.

GTFO you dirty bernie bro... if you dont vote for biden then you might as well be voting for Trump

[Walk on Water]

My prediction is looking to turn out very true. The democrats will edge it out.

[Walk on Water]

Not only did I call this, I called the suspended NBA season when everyone doubted me. Not Heighway.

[Axe]

My prediction is looking to turn out very true. The democrats will edge it out.


Not only did I call this, I called the suspended NBA season when everyone doubted me. Not Heighway.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TallCoolDuiker.webp

[~primetime~]

No trolling, I think Biden wins. I think due to the majority of ballots being done by mail we probably won't know who won the election for some time, maybe not even until after Thanksgiving. I think if Trump does lose the election he will definitely refuse to accept the results and claim it was rigged. This is the scenario, if it does happen, I'll be most curious to see how things plays out. I cannot imagine under any circumstance Trump losing graciously and conceding defeat, so I honestly don't know how this scenario would play out and be resolved if it happens

But the election is still over 100 days away, a lot can change from now. I honestly never thought Trump was gonna win at any point in 2016, Hillary was ahead the entire time, and I 100% thought Trump was done after grab 'em by the pusssy came out. So that's why even with Biden ahead in the polls, I'm not holding my breath this time around. Even with Trump trailing by a lot right now, it's historically very difficult to knock off the incumbent. All I know is this will probably be the most memorable election of our lifetimes, and the reactions from the losing side are going to be absolutely fcking epic

^^^ this is the most accurate post in here

just read through the entire thread

some good laughs in this thread though...it's amazing how many held onto 2016 as a playbook for 2020

[Walk on Water]

bump

[BurningHammer]

I'm voting....for Howie Hawkins.

lol, but I like you for supporting Green Party :D

[Lebron23]

Donald Trump vs. Mick Foley at Wrestlemania 37.

[Walk on Water]

I predicted this just like the nba suspension. Bump bump bump. Months in advance!

[SouBeachTalents]

I predicted this just like the nba suspension. Bump bump bump. Months in advance!
Yeah, but you're still a fakkit though