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tpols
07-28-2020, 05:21 PM
Watching ball in the 90s, even with MJ, I cant remember him throwing down creative dunks... you know windmills, two hand reverses, 360s, and all variations of alley oops. Did he ever even catch any of the latter? it seems as though teams didn't even throw them back then.

Who brought that to the game?

Lebron23
07-28-2020, 05:22 PM
Vince Carter

tpols
07-28-2020, 05:24 PM
Yea... him and Kobe are the only guards i can think of that consistently caught alley oops. Lebron's caught quite a few too.

Phoenix
07-28-2020, 05:28 PM
You don't recall MJ catching Alley-oops? Him and Scottie had a nice backdoor alley-oop game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9LemuLDm0Q

KD7
07-28-2020, 05:38 PM
Dominique obviously, he was the first guy that did dunk contest dunks in game on a consistent basis


https://youtu.be/AS5putGxdcI

AirBonner
07-28-2020, 05:38 PM
Wilt

Kblaze8855
07-28-2020, 05:45 PM
Do you know who this is?


https://youtu.be/DEAJOF2CdQ0



Most of that is between 35-40 years ago....which is clear because he’s explaining what a 3 pointer is.


He did a lot of what you asked about in there. In game 360 and reversed and all. And he wasn’t the first. People in the ABA were showing off all the time.

Kblaze8855
07-28-2020, 05:51 PM
Also....I think the first dunk of Jordan’s career was an alley vs the Bucks. And maybe his second dunk was another alley that same game. I’ll look into it...but he had a lot. You didn’t come up watching come fly with me? His alley over Mark Jackson was pretty well known I thought.

tpols
07-28-2020, 05:55 PM
Dominique obviously, he was the first guy that did dunk contest dunks in game on a consistent basis


https://youtu.be/AS5putGxdcI

He sure loved using that two handed pump fake dunk.

tpols
07-28-2020, 05:56 PM
Also....I think the first dunk of Jordan’s career was an alley vs the Bucks. And maybe his second dunk was another alley that same game. I’ll look into it...but he had a lot. You didn’t come up watching come fly with me? His alley over Mark Jackson was pretty well known I thought.

i just dont remember much alley oops from him but I was a kid. Even rewatching playoff series now he seems to favor the 1 handed poster over most dunks.

AirBonner
07-28-2020, 05:59 PM
David Thompson

Phoenix
07-28-2020, 06:03 PM
Also....I think the first dunk of Jordan’s career was an alley vs the Bucks. And maybe his second dunk was another alley that same game. I’ll look into it...but he had a lot. You didn’t come up watching come fly with me? His alley over Mark Jackson was pretty well known I thought.

The 'here comes Mr. Jordan' one you mean, yeah I think it was.

AirBonner
07-28-2020, 06:17 PM
Of course MJ pioneered it even though it happened nearly 25 years before him lol

getting_old
07-28-2020, 06:22 PM
Darryl Dawkins turned it into a fun lifestyle, played off the media as a pioneer.

tpols
07-28-2020, 06:24 PM
Darryl Dawkins turned it into a fun lifestyle, played off the media as a pioneer.

my ma said she served him at a very nice NJ restaurant called the pour house in the 80s.

HylianNightmare
07-29-2020, 12:21 AM
Didn't it take off in the aba

CTbasketball92
07-29-2020, 09:37 AM
On Michael Jordan: It's a shame we never saw him do full extension windmills. I think he's the best NBA athlete ever and best all around leaper, but Kobe had way better in-game dunks in my opinion. He just took off from more interesting angles, did more 360s, windmills, etc. MJ just kinda dunked it sometimes. The cradle and kiss the rim dunks were epic but he rarely did them in games.

Phoenix
07-29-2020, 10:23 AM
MJ seemed to be more interested in 'gliding' dunks where he just cocks the ball back, leans on an angle and takes off from a distance. There's no athletic reason for him not to have things like windmills and such. Just didn't seem to be his style.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Yo8C4WeKkuplOicKv6/giphy.gif

Then you have stuff like this:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/2d/6a/792d6a66c487ea4d13f8c1e382f03bef.gif

All of those motions with his legs, the reverse cradle into the 2-hand finish and from that distance takes crazy athleticism. There's any number of things that version of MJ could have pulled in terms of windmills, 360s, and the like.

Vino24
07-29-2020, 12:37 PM
MJ didn’t pioneer creative dunking. MJ has NO case here.

Gruppenführer
07-29-2020, 01:10 PM
'Nique had some creative dunks in the dunk contest prior to a lot of other dunkers.

Creative dunkers in the game though....maybe Shawn Kemp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQeMhYJe5JA

Overdrive
07-29-2020, 01:15 PM
Do you know who this is?


https://youtu.be/DEAJOF2CdQ0



Most of that is between 35-40 years ago....which is clear because he’s explaining what a 3 pointer is.


He did a lot of what you asked about in there. In game 360 and reversed and all. And he wasn’t the first. People in the ABA were showing off all the time.

Remember watching a mix on him years ago and wondered why he wasn't more talked about.

Also nobody ITT said MJ pioneered it.

tpols
07-29-2020, 01:21 PM
'Nique had some creative dunks in the dunk contest prior to a lot of other dunkers.

Creative dunkers in the game though....maybe Shawn Kemp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQeMhYJe5JA

the commentary on that last dunk. :roll:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2GaAWdHwsw

i cant stop watching it. The REIGNNNNN MANNNNNNN!!!

ArbitraryWater
07-29-2020, 01:31 PM
my ma said she served him at a very nice NJ restaurant called the pour house in the 80s.

your ma served him well