Shopping Carts, Stop Signs and Traffic Lights, and Wearing Masks

[hiphopanonymous]

Shopping carts - are a good example of seeing how willing our society is to do the right thing if left completely on their own. Not everyone has to put the shopping carts in the cart return or take them back to the store - it isn't a rule it's just the right thing to do. Some places I go I see a lot of proactive shoppers doing their part and returning carts to a return area to keep the parking lot clean or straight back to the store so that either an employee can retrieve the carts all at once or so that it can go straight to a customer. Some stores I go to, or most any store during times when the weather is bad I see shopping carts strewn about the parking lot. As if many people automatically decided or eventually decided "f_ck it" if they felt inconvenienced.

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Stop signs and traffic lights - in the U.S. are illegal to disobey. But most I believe would agree, this needed to happen - because if everyone were left to their own decisions and opinions like with the shopping carts, an intersection becomes a lot more dangerous with injuries and even fatalities. The shopping carts are a good indicator how often people are inclined to do things properly when no one tells them that they must do it. It's fine if there is no livlihood at stake. No one gets hurt by not returning a shopping cart. The only reason stop signs and traffic lights became illegal to disobey is that it costs people their health or possibly their life to ignore them. This freedom to choose what we should do at an intersection is taken away from us - we can of course ignore to go or stop as we please but the law won't be on our side. We get penalized by our local and state governments for disobeying.

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Masks - fill in the blank. Let's hear your opinions on this.

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[Shogon]

I regularly run stop lights. If nobody is around and I can assess that my safety is not in jeopardy AND that no one else's safety is in jeopardy, I'm running that shit. Unless you really don't know if a cop is going to get you, there's no reason not to.

There are many nonsensical stop lights that have awful timing mechanisms. There isn't a valid reason to remain stopped. It's just you being a sheep. The industrial machine has you in every imaginable way. I am not encouraging people to run stop lights, but if you actually put some thought into it, you will come to the idea pretty quickly... "why am I genuinely sitting here? Nobody is around in any direction. Why am I sitting here? I am not free."

[hiphopanonymous]

I regularly run stop lights. If nobody is around and I can assess that my safety is not in jeopardy AND that no one else's safety is in jeopardy, I'm running that shit. Unless you really don't know if a cop is going to get you, there's no reason not to.

There are many nonsensical stop lights that have awful timing mechanisms. There is valid reason to stop. It's just you being a sheep.
You can of course choose to do whatever you like the consequences just change when the law isn't on your side. If you get caught doing that you get in trouble - does this fact bother you by chance?

[SouBeachTalents]

I regularly run stop lights. If nobody is around and I can assess that my safety is not in jeopardy AND that no one else's safety is in jeopardy, I'm running that shit. Unless you really don't know if a cop is going to get you, there's no reason not to.

There are many nonsensical stop lights that have awful timing mechanisms. There isn't a valid reason to remain stopped. It's just you being a sheep. The industrial machine has you in every imaginable way. I am not encouraging people to run stop lights, but if you actually put some thought into it, you will come to the idea pretty quickly... "why am I genuinely sitting here? Nobody is around in any direction. Why am I sitting here? I am not free."
I admittedly don't drive often living in the city, but I thought these days most traffic lights have cameras in them. You don't get busted running a red light?

[Shogon]

Do I want to be pulled over by a cop? Of course not. I know the consequences if caught, and I'm ok with that. But I'm not going to willfully rot away at red lights for the rest of my life just because the system has me programmed to sit at red lights even when absolutely zero other people are around. No sir, not happening.


I admittedly don't drive often living in the city, but I thought these days most traffic lights have cameras in them. You don't get busted running a red light?

It depends on where you live. A lot of different places have abandoned red light cameras after previously having them.

I do not live in a major metropolitan area that has red light cameras all over the place, no.

[~primetime~]

Texas has red light-cams (IIRC around half the country does)...nobody is running anything here.


You want to know the single best way to tell who the decent human beings are?...the people that use the bathroom at public pools and water parks. A lot of people just piss in the water, give no care to the fact that many others are swimming in their piss. People who actually get out and use the restroom never get any kind of credit for doing that, nobody notices that they spared you their piss, they are genuinely doing it out of pure decency.

[Shogon]

Texas has red light-cams (IIRC around half the country does)...nobody is running anything here.


You want to know the single best way to tell who the decent human beings are?...the people that use the bathroom at public pools and water parks. A lot of people just piss in the water, give no care to the fact that many others are swimming in their piss. People who actually get out and use the restroom never get any kind of credit for doing that, nobody notices that they spared you their piss, they are genuinely doing it out of pure decency.


That's a pretty good tell... I agree with the shopping carts too mentioned earlier in the thread.

Basically, in both instances, it's pretty clear the thought process doesn't go any further than "well, this is what's best for me so that's what I'm going to do." Digusting.


I heard or read someone recently say something along the lines of... a good barometer for your character is... how you treat people that have no power over you...

Also... I'm about 99% sure that "around half of the country" does not have red light cameras. It also depends on the exactness of your meaning with that statement. Geographically speaking, the amount of intersections that do not have red light cameras so far outnumber the amount of intersections that do have them, it would not even be a contest. In terms of... how many people drive past a red light camera once a day... that would be interesting, I would still bet it is far less than half.

[warriorfan]

Carts. Sometimes I do sometimes I don’t. Sometimes I just put it up on the curb. I try to not leave it in a parking spot. A lot of the times I park far away from where I’m going. I don’t like spending time hunting for a spot that’s close. I’ll just get the first one I see and walk most of the time. So if I leave a cart way out there it’s not as bad I think. Its job creation. Now some retarded guy can push carts around and get a little money. Also if you do end up returning the cart it’s fun to see how far you can coast the cart into the corral. Make sure you have a good cart and don’t do it if there’s other cars nearby if you arnt good.

Stop signs and traffic lights. As long as you are keeping it safe. I usually use the front two tires crossing the intersection before the light is red, you are good. I don’t roll stop signs, that’s the best way to get you pulled over.

Masks. I’m over it. I just wear it. It’s annoying when you are about to enter a store and you remember you don’t have your mask, then walk back to your car to get it. That sucks.

[~primetime~]

I heard or read someone recently say something along the lines of... a good barometer for your character is... how you treat people that have no power over you...


And on that note...if you were standing in line next to an old lady wearing a mask...and you were NOT wearing a mask...and you could see the fear in her eyes...how do would that make you feel?

A. damn, I feel like a douchebag, maybe I should get a mask just to make her feel safe :(
B. meh...old people die anyway
C. fck this old btch

there is only one 'decent' answer here...

[Shogon]

Putting a cart on a curb is ok. It's not as thoughtful as a cart corral or inside, but a curb is ok.

Putting it in a parking spot or between parking spots not only shows disrespect for the employees, but also for the fellow shoppers. The carts can and do slam into other people's vehicles because of wind.


And on that note...if you were standing in line next to an old lady wearing a mask...and you were NOT wearing a mask...and you could see the fear in her eyes...how do would that make you feel?

A. damn, I feel like a douchebag, maybe I should get a mask just to make her feel safe :(
B. meh...old people die anyway
C. fck this old btch

there is only one 'decent' answer here...

I wear the mask knowing full well that it's not doing shit for me. It literally does not protect me whatsoever. I wear it for other people's emotions and because it does indeed not allow my breath germs to shoot directly into their face when talking.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why haven't we invented self-returning shopping carts? If Roomba's can find their way home, why not shopping carts??

[~primetime~]

I wear the mask knowing full well that it's not doing shit for me. It literally does not protect me whatsoever. I wear it for other people's emotions and because it does indeed not allow my breath germs to shoot directly into their face when talking.

:cheers:

thats the decent thing to do imo

[Shogon]

Why haven't we invented self-returning shopping carts? If Roomba's can find their way home, why not shopping carts??

There are certain chains that use the quarter method... you can only take a cart if you put a quarter into the mechanism that releases the cart... guess how many people leave those carts somewhere that isn't back attached to the other carts? Practically zero, LOL.

Aldi is the only place I know of locally that does it. But I don't shop there, because Publix is the GOAT grocery store.

[KD7]

F*ck masks.

No one said I should wear one when Swine Flu was around so why df am I being made to wear one now?

I had both Covid & Swine Flu and I can tell you Swine Flu was way worse.

[BasedTom]

I avoid big parking lots like the plague and if i ever have to use them i intentionally park far away. Not only is it much faster and less of a hassle to find a space....But i've seen carts roll off course and hit people's cars way too many times- sometimes it's a windy day; sometimes the lot is built on a subtle but significant incline that also ****s things; sometimes people are just dumb and leave it in the middle of the road.

thankfully most of the time i go to the grocer i just walk there, just get the few things i need on hand, and i'm set.

[NugzFan]

Carts. Sometimes I do sometimes I don’t. Sometimes I just put it up on the curb. I try to not leave it in a parking spot. A lot of the times I park far away from where I’m going. I don’t like spending time hunting for a spot that’s close. I’ll just get the first one I see and walk most of the time. So if I leave a cart way out there it’s not as bad I think. Its job creation. Now some retarded guy can push carts around and get a little money. Also if you do end up returning the cart it’s fun to see how far you can coast the cart into the corral. Make sure you have a good cart and don’t do it if there’s other cars nearby if you arnt good.

job creation?

I think ill just start throwing garbage on the floor so someone can create a job for cleaning that up too.

lazybones.

[diamenz]

I regularly run stop lights. If nobody is around and I can assess that my safety is not in jeopardy AND that no one else's safety is in jeopardy, I'm running that shit. Unless you really don't know if a cop is going to get you, there's no reason not to.

There are many nonsensical stop lights that have awful timing mechanisms. There isn't a valid reason to remain stopped. It's just you being a sheep. The industrial machine has you in every imaginable way. I am not encouraging people to run stop lights, but if you actually put some thought into it, you will come to the idea pretty quickly... "why am I genuinely sitting here? Nobody is around in any direction. Why am I sitting here? I am not free."

in the city??? in place like chicago, nyc? forget about it. you must live in either a small town, or the sticks. it's way too congested at ANY time of day in a big city, and at night people are flying by or sometimes drunk & high, or just without their lights on. you run enough reds and youll eventually get f***ed.

[Norcaliblunt]

People are paid to collect shopping carts. Lol.

Traffic lights while necessary are inefficient and waste gas which contributes to global warming.

Masks are SSSMOKIN!!!!!!!!

[Norcaliblunt]

And on that note...if you were standing in line next to an old lady wearing a mask...and you were NOT wearing a mask...and you could see the fear in her eyes...how do would that make you feel?

A. damn, I feel like a douchebag, maybe I should get a mask just to make her feel safe :(
B. meh...old people die anyway
C. fck this old btch

there is only one 'decent' answer here...

I’d think wtf you doing in public.

[iamgine]

Most of the laws are made for general public benefit. Like speed limit, traffic light and DUI. An experienced driver can go safely way above the speed limit and know when it's safe to run through red lights. They'd also be able to drive very safely while having alcohol above legal limit. But they still have to follow the rules.

In a global pandemic, requiring people to wear mask doesn't seem too big an ask.

[Axe]

Do any of you guys wear masks while driving your own cars

[diamenz]

Do any of you guys wear masks while driving your own cars

only when i'm doing a heist.

[Cleverness]

Masks probably help slow the spread of COVID-19, very mixed data

But they're making them mandatory does more harm than good, especially 6 months into the viral spread when most people are already wearing them.

They are a distraction from the real problems, and a way for our politicians/health officials to get us to turn on each other instead of focusing on their catastrophic failures.

Here's a list of what our great leaders have forced upon 328,000,000 Americans:

No entertainment
No church
No school
No jobs

No gyms while obesity is #1 health problem in the US
No police while the ruling class hires private security (on taxpayer dime) for themselves

No visitors; loved ones die alone
No funerals; use zoom/Skype instead (George Floyd an exception)

Big business open
Small business illegal

Mandatory masks - no achievable goals, no objectives, no timetable, increased division/fear/doxxing/harassment/anger/resentment upon our fellow citizen

Trillions printed for corporate/special interests, how to pay for it or cuts to other programs not even in the discussion. Instead we incentivize unemployment, and the poor stay dependent on government

Angry far left mobs rule the streets while honest law-abiding Americans are arrested for opening their business

Essential workers get screwed
Rules for thee (middle class), not for me (gov't/connected/elites/BLM)

52.7 million jobs lost since the shelter in place orders. 110,000+ small businesses already permanently closed (and more to come), while Amazon/Walmart/etc skyrocketing profits

The economic effects long term will be DEVASTATING to our health and the health of those around the world. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page459&p=14056904#post14056904

[tpols]

Masks probably help slow the spread of COVID-19, very mixed data

But they're making them mandatory does more harm than good, especially 6 months into the viral spread when most people are already wearing them.

They are a distraction from the real problems, and a way for our politicians/health officials to get us to turn on each other instead of focusing on their catastrophic failures.

Here's a list of what our great leaders have forced upon 328,000,000 Americans:

No entertainment
No church
No school
No jobs

No gyms while obesity is #1 health problem in the US
No police while the ruling class hires private security (on taxpayer dime) for themselves

No visitors; loved ones die alone
No funerals; use zoom/Skype instead (George Floyd an exception)

Big business open
Small business illegal

Mandatory masks - no achievable goals, no objectives, no timetable, increased division/fear/doxxing/harassment/anger/resentment upon our fellow citizen

Trillions printed for corporate/special interests, how to pay for it or cuts to other programs not even in the discussion. Instead we incentivize unemployment, and the poor stay dependent on government

Angry far left mobs rule the streets while honest law-abiding Americans are arrested for opening their business

Essential workers get screwed
Rules for thee (middle class), not for me (gov't/connected/elites/BLM)

52.7 million jobs lost since the shelter in place orders. 110,000+ small businesses already permanently closed (and more to come), while Amazon/Walmart/etc skyrocketing profits

The economic effects long term will be DEVASTATING to our health and the health of those around the world. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page459&p=14056904#post14056904

You're gonna end up on a list bro. :lol

The truth is optional.

[Cleverness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSFoPaz_ZU4

[Gabe Ball]

Masks probably help slow the spread of COVID-19, very mixed data

But they're making them mandatory does more harm than good, especially 6 months into the viral spread when most people are already wearing them.

They are a distraction from the real problems, and a way for our politicians/health officials to get us to turn on each other instead of focusing on their catastrophic failures.

Here's a list of what our great leaders have forced upon 328,000,000 Americans:

No entertainment
No church
No school
No jobs

No gyms while obesity is #1 health problem in the US
No police while the ruling class hires private security (on taxpayer dime) for themselves

No visitors; loved ones die alone
No funerals; use zoom/Skype instead (George Floyd an exception)

Big business open
Small business illegal

Mandatory masks - no achievable goals, no objectives, no timetable, increased division/fear/doxxing/harassment/anger/resentment upon our fellow citizen

Trillions printed for corporate/special interests, how to pay for it or cuts to other programs not even in the discussion. Instead we incentivize unemployment, and the poor stay dependent on government

Angry far left mobs rule the streets while honest law-abiding Americans are arrested for opening their business

Essential workers get screwed
Rules for thee (middle class), not for me (gov't/connected/elites/BLM)

52.7 million jobs lost since the shelter in place orders. 110,000+ small businesses already permanently closed (and more to come), while Amazon/Walmart/etc skyrocketing profits

The economic effects long term will be DEVASTATING to our health and the health of those around the world. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?477454-Official-coronavirus-news-discussion-thread/page459&p=14056904#post14056904

Interesting, glad to see an opinion like this. 99% of people are thinking about it the other way around, saying that things need to stay the way they are for as long as needed, without weighing the other side of the coin. The virus is bad and it's in our best interest to everything possible to stop it, but there are many negatives that come with lockdown and I feel most aren't paying enough attention to.

I'm not saying anything on the solution, or that one is better than the other, I just find it interesting to hear a differing opinion.

[warriorfan]

job creation?

I think ill just start throwing garbage on the floor so someone can create a job for cleaning that up too.

lazybones.

:roll:

I’ve seen that guys videos. It’s pretty funny. My favorite part is how whenever he calls someone a lazybones...they absolutely lose it, every time. :lol

[NugzFan]

People are paid to collect shopping carts. Lol.

from the cart corrals.

besides, how ****ing lazy do you need to be to not walk in 15 feet to where it belongs.

you probably leave your trash on the floor in theaters after movies are over because "thats their job"

[NugzFan]

:roll:

I’ve seen that guys videos. It’s pretty funny. My favorite part is how whenever he calls someone a lazybones...they absolutely lose it, every time. :lol

he's the hero this world needs. calling pieces of shit out for their laziness. I love it.

this world is full of selfish assholes who only do what benefits them and never consider anyone else. its a big part of why the world is a mess right now. not putting carts back is just one symptom.

[smellypooter]

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[warriorfan]

he's the hero this world needs. calling pieces of shit out for their laziness. I love it.

this world is full of selfish assholes who only do what benefits them and never consider anyone else. its a big part of why the world is a mess right now. not putting carts back is just one symptom.

At first I thought it was him trolling but I watched some more and he is right most of the time. The best part is watching the selfish assholes get their reality shattered when they are confronted about it. A lot of these baby boomer type people like to put on this act like they are super hard working and always do the right thing when they are full of shit. And they lose it when called out on it :lol

[KD7]

Do any of you guys wear masks while driving your own cars

Anyone that does that is literally retarded

[smellypooter]

Anyone that does that is literally retarded



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