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dn41
08-02-2020, 05:20 PM
The White House has made an ad about how things are going, and it’s surprisingly honest and informative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpIkl2QnJeI

Cleverness
08-02-2020, 06:01 PM
1. Their policy hasn't been "don't worry, it's just the flu." In fact, quite the opposite. In March they said it was so serious that we would have between 10 million - 31 million hospitalizations from COVID (20-40% hosp rate) and the policy was 15 days to flatten the curve to 10.3 million.

140 days later we have 0.45 million hospitalizations with COVID (~1% hosp rate), hospitals were emptier than ever.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads

Hell, many small businesses are still illegal to operate. We've given up so much liberty for a virus with a 0.04% IFR in those < 70 years old.. it's insanity.


2. We actually listened to the (quack) scientists. Their names are Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, Dr. Adams, and the CDC/FDA. Thanks to Trump, they've been in charge since March, and the power-obsessed governors are now micromanaging which foods constitute as meals. Because, you know, science. https://reason.com/2020/07/24/andrew-cuomo-bars-new-york-chicken-wings-food/


3. We should have responded with science and data, and like countries that didn't do lockdown or mandatory masks (Sweden now reporting 0 deaths/day with COVID)
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481501-Sweden-was-projected-to-have-100-000-COVID-deaths-by-end-of-June&p=14036291#post14036291


4. She's actually correct on the money policy. We funneled trillions of dollars from taxpayers to big banks & corporate/special interests, while simultaneously providing incentives to be unemployed and stay poor. Both parties unanimously passed this. Kinda weird how she only blames the Rs when the Ds unanimously voted for it lol.

House democrats passed an 1,815 page $3.5 trillion dollar bill, with ~$0.3 trillion for $1200 checks to some Americans. Let's not pretend they are any better than the Republicans.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?482239-Better-Stimulus-Package-House-Democrats-or-Cleverness


5. She's right that we're not in this together. The elites and rich are fine; the middle class is being destroyed. 53 million jobs lost since the shelter-in-place orders (and no lives saved).

FourthTenor
08-02-2020, 06:12 PM
Hell, many small businesses are still illegal to operate. We've given up so much liberty for a virus with a 0.04% IFR in those < 70 years old.. it's insanity.




Sadly, most people dont care about liberty.

They dont think for themselves, act for themselves, go out on any limbs. They are right there in that juicy average middle, trying to mimic whatever it is the rest of the group is doing.

Tf they need liberty for?

Better to just stay home/ mask up/ attack Orange Man like everyone else and keep it movin.

Nanners
08-02-2020, 06:13 PM
House democrats passed an 1,815 page $3.5 trillion dollar bill, with ~$0.3 trillion for $1200 checks to some Americans. Let's not pretend they are any better than the Republicans.


As usual, your post is packed with great points/info... but imho the bit I have quoted here is by far the single most consequential thing you said.

The 0.3b that amercans have given to the unemployed and/or lazy is flat out insulting compared to the 3.2t our govt has handed to banks and stagnating mega corps like Boeing and Nike.

pew
08-02-2020, 06:22 PM
Y’all are right. Your liberties are being stripped. What y’all still typing on your keyboards for? Act for yourselves, go out on a limb, gather your pitchforks and AR-15s and overthrow this tyrannical government. It’s your duty, nay your destiny, to fight for your freedoms. Don’t be China’s bitch they started all this hold them accountable.

KennyPowers
08-02-2020, 06:30 PM
Y’all are right. Your liberties are being stripped. What y’all still typing on your keyboards for? Act for yourselves, go out on a limb, gather your pitchforks and AR-15s and overthrow this tyrannical government. It’s your duty, nay your destiny, to fight for your freedoms. Don’t be China’s bitch they started all this hold them accountable.


No thanks. Enjoy watching your idiot friends and family arrested in the streets by feds and shot by national guard.

Cleverness
08-02-2020, 06:40 PM
As usual, your post is packed with great points/info... but imho the bit I have quoted here is by far the single most consequential thing you said.

The 0.3b that amercans have given to the unemployed and/or lazy is flat out insulting compared to the 3.2t our govt has handed to banks and stagnating mega corps like Boeing and Nike.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EecvLyWU4AAfvwE?format=jpg&name=medium

We should probably add gov't to this photo, lining their pockets with taxpayer cash.

The populous has been conned by politicians & corporate media into thinking that COVID-19 and police racism are our major problems. Even worse, they think they're solvable by eliminating a third of our workforce, covering our faces with bandannas, and "protesting" (rioting/looting).

In reality, our problems are:

skyrocketing unemployment
skyrocketing debt (personal and gov't)
skyrocketing depression
unaffordable healthcare
broken welfare system
wage stagnation
failed public education system / teacher unions
illegal immigration
forever wars
opioid addiction
homelessness
declining birth rates
widespread civil unrest


and largely ignored by both parties.

pew
08-02-2020, 06:46 PM
Take a stand guys! Go out on a limb! This is what the 2nd amendment is for! Tell your oppressive government enough is enough!

FourthTenor
08-02-2020, 06:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EecvLyWU4AAfvwE?format=jpg&name=medium

We should probably add gov't to this photo, lining their pockets with taxpayer cash.

The populous has been conned by politicians & corporate media into thinking that COVID-19 and police racism are our major problems. Even worse, they think they're solvable by eliminating a third of our workforce, covering our faces with bandannas, and "protesting" (rioting/looting).



The thing is, 'essential employees' are kinda the key dupes in this whole thing.

They should be striking. They should also be refusing to "mask up" at work, to demonstrate that a shut down is not necessary, and that everyone should be back to work.

Farmers should be ignoring the prohibition on "raising prices during a crisis" to send a message the government can't just print money and shut people down and basically devalue the farmer's labor. He's the one who ends up working for the same pay as everyone else sitting at home. Let's see how worried everyone really is about the covid when their unemployment checks aren't covering basic necessities.

I mean the only reason the system actually works when we commit economic suicide like this is because the dupes just kinda do what they're told. I mean it's frustrating on the one hand because you worry about what kind of bullshit these people will line up to go along with next, but at the same time... they're kinda the ones being played for fools the most.

So it's like, I do care... but I also don't care.

You just cant fix stupid.

pew
08-02-2020, 06:53 PM
Yea don't take that bullshit! Rise up guys and liberate your fellow (blinded) americans. Imagine the songs and and hymns they'll dedicate to you out of appreciation for generations to come.

pew
08-02-2020, 06:55 PM
They'll call this golden era of wokeness (which u guys helped launch) the Great Awokening!

FourthTenor
08-02-2020, 07:11 PM
They'll call this golden era of wokeness (which u guys helped launch) the Great Awokening!


I feel like the extent youre forcing the shtick is not commensurate with the point it’s making.


But hey, could be wrong. :confusedshrug:

pew
08-02-2020, 07:18 PM
Don’t attack me guys. I’m one of y’all now. What ultimately converted me to the dark side is clever’s fake data and graphs. If someone out there is passionate enough to falsify data and graphs, it must be for a true and worthy cause. I’m all in with u guys. It ain’t right that america becomes china’s bitch over a harmless virus we (I’m Chinese) released.

FourthTenor
08-02-2020, 07:50 PM
Don’t attack me guys. I’m one of y’all now. What ultimately converted me to the dark side is clever’s fake data and graphs. If someone out there is passionate enough to falsify data and graphs, it must be for a true and worthy cause. I’m all in with u guys. It ain’t right that america becomes china’s bitch over a harmless virus we (I’m Chinese) released.


Our government and media manipulating this year's strain of the flu for nefarious political purposes has nothing to do with China tbh. :confusedshrug:

But I can sense you grasping at a good angle to troll from. Feels like you're splashing really hard trying to keep your head above water.

Good luck my G :cheers:

pew
08-02-2020, 08:00 PM
Our government and media manipulating this year's strain of the flu for nefarious political purposes has nothing to do with China tbh. :confusedshrug:

But I can sense you grasping at a good angle to troll from. Feels like you're splashing really hard trying to keep your head above water.

Good luck my G :cheers:

Thx homie :cheers:

FourthTenor
08-02-2020, 08:26 PM
Also to be clear about my 'essential worker' comments, I realize there are plenty of intelligent essential workers scattered around various industries, who simply can't make a dent in the system without group cooperation.

As a collective though.. it's a lot of apathy and nose picking.


But we're gonna get to that utopia one day!

tpols
08-02-2020, 08:36 PM
Twain said it and we have to post it again.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c9/be/5b/c9be5bc34518a4a739356dcdbcee42f2.jpg

TheMan
08-03-2020, 02:13 PM
No thanks. Enjoy watching your idiot friends and family arrested in the streets by feds and shot by national guard.

These beta pro oppressive government cucks like this KennyPowers retard will be the first ones we send to reeducation camps in a last chance effort for them to become for the first time in their miserable lives, productive members of society...if that fails, off to the gulags they go where they will never be heard from again.