Nobody won 3 rings without their sidekick getting a FMVP or 25-30 ppg, so

[3ball]

how could anyone win 3 with Pippen? (let alone 6)

We're talking modern era here, so 3-pointer basketball

[LAmbruh]

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[scuzzy]

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[StrongLurk]

how could anyone win 3 with Pippen? (let alone 6)

We're talking modern era here, so 3-pointer basketball

Those Bulls teams would only win 2-3 rings in the 80's or 2010's. As you say, Pippen isn't good enough. Those Bulls teams were lucky the 90's were a "down" decade talent wise.

[3ball]

Those Bulls teams would only win 2-3 rings in the 80's or 2010's. As you say, Pippen isn't good enough. Those Bulls teams were lucky the 90's were a "down" decade talent wise.

I agree that the 90's Bulls would win 2-3 in the 80's

But they would've destroyed the 16' Warriors and the warriors wouldn't acquire KD because there was no precedent to copy (MJ didn't team-hop, no "decision")

So the warriors never get KD and MJ keeps winning through 2021 with Kyrie, Love, and around 2018 they would've acquired a key addition, maybe Draymond or Klay

[Roundball_Rock]

Nobody else won a war where a guy like "General Hooker*" was a key member of his supporting cast. Therefore, Lincoln=GOAT. Could FDR keep afloat with General Hooker? Honest Abe could get it done whether it is General Hooker or Colonel Mustard. :bowdown:

*He also had a "Hooker's Brigade"--and they weren't there for military purposes...


Those Bulls teams would only win 2-3 rings in the 80's or 2010's. As you say, Pippen isn't good enough. Those Bulls teams were lucky the 90's were a "down" decade talent wise.

"They were a one man team, Pippen sucked!"
"The Bulls are the GOAT team and would beat every all-time great team---Bulls in 4 against the 86' Celtics!"

[StrongLurk]

I agree that the 90's Bulls would win 2-3 in the 80's

But they would've destroyed the 16' Warriors and the warriors wouldn't acquire KD because there was no precedent to copy (MJ didn't team-hop, no "decision")

So the warriors never get KD and MJ keeps winning through 2021 with Kyrie, Love, and around 2018 they would've acquired a key addition, maybe Draymond or Klay

How is this a serious response from you :roll:

[Roundball_Rock]

How is this a serious response from you :roll:

:lol

I like how he says 2-3 rings in the 80's--that means multiple rings against these guys with MJ and scrubs (per 2ball's narrative):

Lakers with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Nixon, Scott, Cooper
Celtics with Bird, McHale, Parish, Johnson, Ainge, Walton
Sixers with Moses, Dr. J, Cheeks, Toney, Jones
Pistons with Isiah, Rodman, Dumars, Dantley, Laimbeer

Not to mention other teams like the Gervin Spurs, Moncrief/Cummings Bucks, etc.

[3ball]

How is this a serious response from you :roll:

If Rik Smits outplayed Shaq in the 00' Finals, would Miller get credit for a "goat" accomplishment by winning that series?

What if Kenyon outplayed Duncan in the 03' Finals, would Kidd get credit for a goat accomplishment by winning that series?

Kyrie destroyed Curry in the 16' Finals, so Lebron should be expected to win, and it shouldn't take 7 games - it only took 7 games because lebron averaged 24 and 6 TO's thru 4 games.. MJ never had a 4-game stretch like that... Ever

[ELITEpower23]

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[3ball]

:lol

I like how he says 2-3 rings in the 80's--that means multiple rings against these guys with MJ and scrubs (per 2ball's narrative):

Lakers with Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Nixon, Scott, Cooper
Celtics with Bird, McHale, Parish, Johnson, Ainge, Walton
Sixers with Moses, Dr. J, Cheeks, Toney, Jones
Pistons with Isiah, Rodman, Dumars, Dantley, Laimbeer

Not to mention other teams like the Gervin Spurs, Moncrief/Cummings Bucks, etc.

The triangle made Pippen comparable to the non-peak playoffs or Finals of guys like Mchale, Dumars, Worthy, etc... So he could compare to these guys

Therefore, MJ could win with Pippen and the triangle - MJ nearly beat the Pistons in 89' with Pippen getting 9 on 40%, so they win with anyone else in Pippen's place or prime Pippen..

And let's face it - Kareem was a fossil in 1988, and 91' Vlade/Perkins were actually much better (18/9 in Finals for each).. so the 88' Lakers weren't much better than the 91' Lakers that MJ destroyed

Again, a guy like Woolridge only got to play with rookie MJ and didn't get time to grow into a great team like Pippen did.. and of course Pippen benefitted from better parity that allowed 2-star contenders to be the norm in the 90's

[TheCorporation]

I'd like to think someone who is repeatedly bullied like OP would learn his lesson but then again that'd be asking a lot for a low IQ individual. LAmrbruh already served the 1st post slay but incase you're too dumb to get it I'll spell it out for you buddy.

Michael Jordan has faced the most trash competition of all top 12 players in NBA history. He has zero notable rings and his best competition was a face petting, 10.7 ppg scoring Jeffrey Hornacek. LeThanos literally collected an infinity stone from the three goats of his era...

2012 from KD
2013 from Kawhi
2016 Curry

MJ beat...?

Losing record to Bird, Isaiah, Malone, and Hakeem

2 ez

:dancin

[HoopsNY]

I agree that the 90's Bulls would win 2-3 in the 80's

But they would've destroyed the 16' Warriors and the warriors wouldn't acquire KD because there was no precedent to copy (MJ didn't team-hop, no "decision")

So the warriors never get KD and MJ keeps winning through 2021 with Kyrie, Love, and around 2018 they would've acquired a key addition, maybe Draymond or Klay

Wait so the Bulls would manage to win 2-3 titles in the 80s, WITH a "scrub" like Pippen? What happened to the 3 star format and needing multiple stars to win it all?

[Roundball_Rock]

Wait so the Bulls would manage to win 2-3 titles in the 80s, WITH a "scrub" like Pippen? What happened to the 3 star format and needing multiple stars to win it all?

:lol Good catch.

[Manny98]

I agree that the 90's Bulls would win 2-3 in the 80's

But they would've destroyed the 16' Warriors and the warriors wouldn't acquire KD because there was no precedent to copy (MJ didn't team-hop, no "decision")

So the warriors never get KD and MJ keeps winning through 2021 with Kyrie, Love, and around 2018 they would've acquired a key addition, maybe Draymond or Klay

Glad to see you admit that MJ benefited from playing in a weaker era :applause:

[ImKobe]

I'd like to think someone who is repeatedly bullied like OP would learn his lesson but then again that'd be asking a lot for a low IQ individual. LAmrbruh already served the 1st post slay but incase you're too dumb to get it I'll spell it out for you buddy.

Michael Jordan has faced the most trash competition of all top 12 players in NBA history. He has zero notable rings and his best competition was a face petting, 10.7 ppg scoring Jeffrey Hornacek. LeThanos literally collected an infinity stone from the three goats of his era...

2012 from KD
2013 from Kawhi
2016 Curry

MJ beat...?

Losing record to Bird, Isaiah, Malone, and Hakeem

2 ez

:dancin

MJ beat Magic, Shaq, Malone, Zeke & Barkley...

[Roundball_Rock]

Glad to see you admit that MJ benefited from playing in a weaker era :applause:

An era where Draymond Green would be a MVP candidate, perennial first team all-NBA apparently when he is nothing close to that in this era. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?482392-Scottie-Pippen-Paul-George-Kawhi-Leonard/page22

These guys can't keep their TP straight and keep undercutting their agenda. :lol

[ImKobe]

An era where Draymond Green would be a MVP candidate, perennial first team all-NBA apparently when he is nothing close to that in this era. http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?482392-Scottie-Pippen-Paul-George-Kawhi-Leonard/page22

These guys can't keep their TP straight and keep undercutting their agenda. :lol

No one said that, you're making up shit because you can't refute any of the stats posted in that thread. One strawman after another. Apparently, saying that Pippen's closer to Draymond than Lebron James offensively means that Pippen = Draymond and that Draymond = MVP candidate. Imagine comparing Pippen (a guy who had 4 seasons of 20+ ppg on mediocre efficiency) to a career 27 ppg scorer in Lebron, who's likely going to end up #2/#1 all-time on the scoring list.

So yes, Pippen is closer to a mediocre scorer in Draymond than he is to one of the 10 greatest scorers in league history. It's actually true mathematically. Pippen's career-16 ppg is closer to Draymond's 9 ppg than it is to Lebron's 27.

[AirBonner]

MJ couldn’t even hold Bird’s jock in the 80’s

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Wait so the Bulls would manage to win 2-3 titles in the 80s, WITH a "scrub" like Pippen? What happened to the 3 star format and needing multiple stars to win it all?

Another "3botched" special :oldlol:

[NBAGOAT]

Wait so the Bulls would manage to win 2-3 titles in the 80s, WITH a "scrub" like Pippen? What happened to the 3 star format and needing multiple stars to win it all?

You don’t get it mj is the exception to every rule even when 3ball says there are no exceptions :lol

[3ball]

Wait so the Bulls would manage to win 2-3 titles in the 80s, WITH a "scrub" like Pippen? What happened to the 3 star format and needing multiple stars to win it all?

That's why I reduced his ring count from 6 to 2 in the 80's

He would've won in 1989 obviously, because he nearly beat the Pistons despite Pippen getting 9 and 40% - so the bulls win if Pippen is replaced by practically anyone

So that's 1 ring... I'm sure he could get 1 more with any 2nd option (aka Woolridge) assuming they had the same time to grow and system that Pippen got