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Stanley Kobrick
08-07-2020, 11:40 AM
many humans choose to leap 80 stories to their impact rather than a slow burning one from the jet fuel below. initial devout Christians in America tried to erase this from the media because they find a self-chosen death taboo and a one way ticket to infinite hell. fortunately there were too many witnesses and cameras to ever let this truth be hidden. never forget the 9/11 jumpers :(



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMDkvJRHaNM

warriorfan
08-07-2020, 11:42 AM
Op is a scary psychology lesson.

Shogon
08-07-2020, 11:43 AM
Op is a scary psychology lesson.

https://i.postimg.cc/qMsVbB4p/1.jpg

warriorfan
08-07-2020, 11:44 AM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/086/534/cdc.jpg

:roll:

~primetime~
08-07-2020, 11:48 AM
That is the most fcked up scenario ever...and I can only hope that the jumpers blacked out or had some kind of out of body experience while falling.

The choice between the extreme physical pain of burning to death...or the extreme psychological pain of having to dive into concrete. Seriously just awful :(

I think of all the awful shit that came along with 9/11...the jumpers had the most affect on me.

LAmbruh
08-07-2020, 12:06 PM
Even scarier - there have been 160,000 US covid-19 deaths since Jan 20 when it was first reported in America

201 days since

800 deaths per day via Corona

That's a new 9/11 attack every 4 days. Which we can conclude once again, statistically speaking, that 9/11 is quite insignificant and most likely a liberal smokescreen to get Bush W out of office.

n00bie
08-07-2020, 12:14 PM
You have to wonder though. Did they jump or did they fall?

If the whole room was engulfed in flames and there was so much smoke.. the only way to give yourself a small chance if survival is to climb out the window.

I'd say they most likely tries to escape by walking in the ledge.. and then fell.

warriorfan
08-07-2020, 12:15 PM
I think God would call this an exception.

TheMan
08-07-2020, 12:22 PM
Even scarier - there have been 160,000 US covid-19 deaths since Jan 20 when it was first reported in America

201 days since

800 deaths per day via Corona

That's a new 9/11 attack every 4 days. Which we can conclude once again, statistically speaking, that 9/11 is quite insignificant and most likely a liberal smokescreen to get Bush W out of office.

Problem was that Dubya wrecked our plans by getting reelected in 2004...we've learned much since then though and our planedemic is going accordingly, we even recruited the whole world to go along with it to get Trump out of office, and get this, the most delicious part of it is that its precisely his supporters who refuse to wear masks/social distance, thus ensuring the virus continues to spread and kills off his most reliable base, old people. Muahahahaha!!!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR9FTrs4vVnQ8myaeauMS7_TJT7Db2 N2EuQMw&usqp=CAU

warriorfan
08-07-2020, 12:32 PM
Not even one page before the orange man bads begin.

Impressive.

TheMan
08-07-2020, 12:35 PM
Not even one page before the orange man bads begin.

Impressive.

Ummm, that really wasn't an Orange Man Bad post but rather a satirical poke at conspiracy theorists...too bad it went over your head.

warriorfan
08-07-2020, 12:39 PM
Ummm, that really wasn't an Orange Man Bad post but rather a satirical poke at conspiracy theorists...too bad it went over your head.

https://i.gifer.com/Cw5s.gif

Stanley Kobrick
08-07-2020, 12:39 PM
You have to wonder though. Did they jump or did they fall?

If the whole room was engulfed in flames and there was so much smoke.. the only way to give yourself a small chance if survival is to climb out the window.

I'd say they most likely tries to escape by walking in the ledge.. and then fell.
here is the famous photograph of Edna Citron waiving for help, 17 pillars from the left, who was randomly identified by family afterwards months later





https://i.postimg.cc/8C71wMw4/2uj3u9uy8xo11.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2bb3333624c3d4b16be06921a6324df6



she choose to leap

https://i.postimg.cc/3wz3qNcT/fgdjdfgjfgjfgy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)




many of these photographs weren't published by mainstream US media until a decade later. people heard of the one jumper guy and his photo but never the vast reality of the 200+ hundreds that did. so much death yet very limited photo evidence of actual true gore and corpse debri below, even after the cleanup almost no limbs were shown. something like only a handful were identified at ground zero afterwards, search and rescue dogs became depressed after weeks of futile human remains in the rubble being found. just splatter and dust between a mountain of twisted steel


https://i.postimg.cc/NFHpQsYm/060724-911-bcol-3a-grid-6x2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://i.postimg.cc/jqw8HXN2/dam-politics-2006-09-poar01-friend-excerpt0609.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://i.postimg.cc/B6ymWLWJ/hqdefault-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/C1dc6CQv/cc417d53614e63eac3253af67bf5e400.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

iamgine
08-07-2020, 12:57 PM
They didn't necessarily chose to jump. In certain situations, the body tends to make reflex movement. For example, put your hand on the stove. You will automatically took your hands off before you can think about choosing to take your hands off.

~primetime~
08-07-2020, 01:03 PM
video footage...pictures...it's SOOOO integral in how society reacts to things

The Rodney King riots and Floyd protests/riots...neither of those would have happened without video footage of them...society has to SEE it happen...can't just read about it, no one would even blink at that

I think that is a big part of why so many couldn't care less about covid...they need to visually SEE old helpless people choke to death on their own blood for it to actually hit them

Stanley Kobrick
08-07-2020, 01:14 PM
They didn't necessarily chose to jump. In certain situations, the body tends to make reflex movement. For example, put your hand on the stove. You will automatically took your hands off before you can think about choosing to take your hands off.
there is the one distress call from a victim above the impact, it's very disturbing. he goes into deep description with the operator, how intensely hot the floor was and how his shoe soles were melting. most people above the fire didn't ever know the extent of the situation. they heard an explosion below, some initial smoke outside and within an hour of panic were flattened


here is one of the most disturbing, you hear Kevin Cosgrove go back and forth with the operator and cut off as the tower collapses under him while on call. his final scream



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLW0jKKRXMo

TheMan
08-07-2020, 02:00 PM
there is the one distress call from a victim above the impact, it's very disturbing. he goes into deep description with the operator, how intensely hot the floor was and how his shoe soles were melting. most people above the fire didn't ever know the extent of the situation. they heard an explosion below, some initial smoke outside and within an hour of panic were flattened


here is one of the most disturbing, you hear Kevin Cosgrove go back and forth with the operator and cut off as the tower collapses under him while on call. his final scream



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLW0jKKRXMo

Yeah, we all know it was a horrible tragedy but don't need to hear that and get bummed out for the rest of my afternoon, thanks.

n00bie
08-07-2020, 03:54 PM
here is the famous photograph of Edna Citron waiving for help, 17 pillars from the left, who was randomly identified by family afterwards months later





https://i.postimg.cc/8C71wMw4/2uj3u9uy8xo11.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2bb3333624c3d4b16be06921a6324df6



she choose to leap

https://i.postimg.cc/3wz3qNcT/fgdjdfgjfgjfgy.jpg (https://postimages.org/)




many of these photographs weren't published by mainstream US media until a decade later. people heard of the one jumper guy and his photo but never the vast reality of the 200+ hundreds that did. so much death yet very limited photo evidence of actual true gore and corpse debri below, even after the cleanup almost no limbs were shown. something like only a handful were identified at ground zero afterwards, search and rescue dogs became depressed after weeks of futile human remains in the rubble being found. just splatter and dust between a mountain of twisted steel


https://i.postimg.cc/NFHpQsYm/060724-911-bcol-3a-grid-6x2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://i.postimg.cc/jqw8HXN2/dam-politics-2006-09-poar01-friend-excerpt0609.jpg (https://postimages.org/)


https://i.postimg.cc/B6ymWLWJ/hqdefault-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/C1dc6CQv/cc417d53614e63eac3253af67bf5e400.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

A lot of those pictures are showing people hanging onto the ledge because that's the only way they can breath. They might not all over necessarily jumped off. Strong winds could have pushed them off.. explosions, or they ran out of room.

Either way I cant imagine what they must have felt so I cant say whether I would have jumped or not.

Doomsday Dallas
08-07-2020, 09:07 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/7e/12/40/7e124040182a91a58cc138211870179f.jpg

https://prodimage.images-bn.com/pimages/9780393326710_p1_v3_s550x406.jpg

coin24
08-07-2020, 09:35 PM
video footage...pictures...it's SOOOO integral in how society reacts to things

The Rodney King riots and Floyd protests/riots...neither of those would have happened without video footage of them...society has to SEE it happen...can't just read about it, no one would even blink at that

I think that is a big part of why so many couldn't care less about covid...they need to visually SEE old helpless people choke to death on their own blood for it to actually hit them


You mean when they're dying of 10 other illnesses at 80+? Yeah hard hitting shit right there

iamgine
08-07-2020, 09:55 PM
there is the one distress call from a victim above the impact, it's very disturbing. he goes into deep description with the operator, how intensely hot the floor was and how his shoe soles were melting. most people above the fire didn't ever know the extent of the situation. they heard an explosion below, some initial smoke outside and within an hour of panic were flattened


here is one of the most disturbing, you hear Kevin Cosgrove go back and forth with the operator and cut off as the tower collapses under him while on call. his final scream



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLW0jKKRXMo
It's about what you'd expect. He sounds pretty calm though for being under heavy smoke. I wonder how long he would've lasted if the building didn't go down. :lol

Lebron23
08-08-2020, 02:28 AM
Thank God those terrorist are currently burning in hell right now.

SouBeachTalents
08-08-2020, 02:39 AM
It's about what you'd expect. He sounds pretty calm though for being under heavy smoke. I wonder how long he would've lasted if the building didn't go down. :lol
You'd have to be autistic to find that funny

DoctorP
08-08-2020, 02:44 AM
I wonder if clothes could have been used as a parachute somehow

iamgine
08-08-2020, 01:12 PM
You'd have to be autistic to find that funny
Are you sure autistic people find that funny?

SouBeachTalents
08-08-2020, 02:40 PM
Are you sure autistic people find that funny?
You seem to be on the spectrum and apparently do

JEFFERSON MONEY
08-08-2020, 03:57 PM
Thank God those terrorist are currently burning in hell right now.

....and you know this how?

~primetime~
08-08-2020, 05:06 PM
....and you know this how?

You think they're in paradise with their virgins right now?

Serious question J$... do you agree with their actions?

FourthTenor
08-08-2020, 05:15 PM
PT and TheMan.

The true cognitive elite.

The rest of us just cant keep up. These guys are deep thinkers.

Orange Man Bad and Flu Virus Scary.

Where do they come up with insights this poignant?

~primetime~
08-08-2020, 05:58 PM
Starface in the wrong thread

How's that for deep thinking lol

MrFonzworth
08-08-2020, 06:02 PM
Thank God those terrorist are currently burning in hell right now.

Idk, I heard it both ways b

FourthTenor
08-08-2020, 06:06 PM
Starface in the wrong thread

How's that for deep thinking lol


What do you mean?

TheMan weighed in with his usual OMB and you dropped a typical Flu Virus Scary.

In the 9/11 thread.


Two of the finest minds on ISH doin what they do.

Im just showin respect.

~primetime~
08-08-2020, 06:13 PM
Oh shit you actually found some orange man bad in here...my bad

good work man...spent the last five years defending Trump in here...very high IQ

warriorfan
08-08-2020, 06:25 PM
PT and TheMan.

The true cognitive elite.

The rest of us just cant keep up. These guys are deep thinkers.

Orange Man Bad and Flu Virus Scary.

Where do they come up with insights this poignant?

:roll:

OMB

TheMan
08-08-2020, 06:58 PM
Starface in the wrong thread

How's that for deep thinking lol

Yeah, don't know what I wrote in ITT that got his panties all in a bunch :lol

TheMan
08-08-2020, 07:01 PM
What do you mean?

TheMan weighed in with his usual OMB and you dropped a typical Flu Virus Scary.

In the 9/11 thread.


Two of the finest minds on ISH doin what they do.

Im just showin respect.

Ha, if you took away Orange Man Bad from that sarcastic poke at conspiracy theorists, then you really are dumber than what I initially thought you were, lol...and you probably do literally believe I'm rolling with the world elites who orchestred this "plandemic" :roll:

Relax man, I promise you no real plan does exist...




muahahahahaha!!!!

FourthTenor
08-08-2020, 07:06 PM
Ha, if you took away Orange Man Bad from that sarcastic poke at conspiracy theorists, then you are dumber than I initially thought you were, lol


Now Im confused and scared. I knew I never should have entered arguments like these. Im not equipped to engage with a stalwart member of the cognitive elite such as yourself. I humbly demur.

Please accept my apology, TheMan.

TheMan
08-08-2020, 07:09 PM
Problem was that Dubya wrecked our plans by getting reelected in 2004...we've learned much since then though and our planedemic is going accordingly, we even recruited the whole world to go along with it to get Trump out of office, and get this, the most delicious part of it is that its precisely his supporters who refuse to wear masks/social distance, thus ensuring the virus continues to spread and kills off his most reliable base, old people. Muahahahaha!!!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR9FTrs4vVnQ8myaeauMS7_TJT7Db2 N2EuQMw&usqp=CAU

Again, which dimwits actually think I was being serious here? Do I really need to explain satire???

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/DP4Q4kffHAg09lp59N_cpWPpUpHyO7Ea-JA6teWCe2E3JFJKdGx2y_WWBzQmEW9Odaqgca26w3isxVaKyKt dmCDZofBvw1P-_Pqu2DxYErVxaYAUToGSRBWHiCXxfgirQObO=w220-h153

TheMan
08-08-2020, 07:10 PM
Now Im confused and scared. I knew I never should have entered arguments like these. Im not equipped to engage with a stalwart member of the cognitive elite such as yourself. I humbly demur.

Please accept my apology, TheMan.

You took away Orange Man Bad from the post above...

I will say no more.

FourthTenor
08-08-2020, 07:14 PM
You took away Orange Man Bad from the post above...

I will say no more.


Im so sorry. I mean it.

I trust you and primetime and Mr Chuck Shumer and Mr Dr Anthony Fauchi.

I am truly so sorry I ever questioned. I hope you can accept my apology.

I dont belong among those of your genius. I want you to take control. Where you go I will follow.

TheMan
08-08-2020, 07:20 PM
Im so sorry. I mean it.

I trust you and primetime and Mr Chuck Shumer and Mr Dr Anthony Fauchi.

I am truly so sorry I ever questioned. I hope you can accept my apology.

I dont belong among those of your genius. I want you to take control. Where you go I will follow.

Lol, that's ok bro but trust me, it ain't so much that I'm a genius rather than that you just aren't that bright...I mean, after all, you did fall for the Don hook, line and sinker, OTOH, I saw through his bullshit from the get go.

:cheers:

FourthTenor
08-08-2020, 07:24 PM
Lol, that's ok bro but trust me, it ain't so much that I'm a genius rather than that you just aren't that bright...I mean, after all, you did fall for the Don hook, line and sinker, OTOH, I saw through his bullshit from the get go.

:cheers:


I agree.

You are the smart one.

TheSmartMan.

I bow to your brilliance.

iamgine
08-08-2020, 07:44 PM
You seem to be on the spectrum and apparently do
Everyone is on the spectrum tho