View Full Version : Top Three players in the league right now?
StrongLurk
08-07-2020, 05:54 PM
It's gotta be Kawhi, Giannis, Harden correct?
It's a shame Curry and KD sat this year out, but the three players above have been the most dominant players all year.
Harden is probably the most underrated player over these last two seasons:
143 Games - 35.3/6.5/7.5 averages on 61.8 TS%, 29.7 PER, 10.2 BPM, 16.2 VORP - These are literally MJ numbers. I doubt even Kobe has two regular seasons in a row putting up these numbers
Playoffs last year he had 32/7/7 and lost to the 19 Warriors with KD mostly healthy for that series. I think he and the Rockets could win it all this year and I wouldn't even be surprised.
Im so nba'd out
08-07-2020, 05:58 PM
Not counting LeBron (the best player in the world during the playoffs)
James Harden
Michael Porter JR
TJ Warren
Thats being 100% unbiased
LAmbruh
08-07-2020, 06:06 PM
Leads league in assists
Top MVP candidate
Advanced metrics off the charts
1st seed out West
17th season
No one does it better baby. LeFlourish :pimp: (huge bran hater btw)
HBK_Kliq_2
08-07-2020, 06:09 PM
Kawhi, Giannis and LeBron/Harden share 3rd spot
fourkicks44
08-07-2020, 06:09 PM
https://youtu.be/YooPPm0AvPw
OrlandoMagicGuy
08-07-2020, 07:17 PM
1.The Terminator
2.PG-13
3.Unibrow/Jimmy Buckets
FourthTenor
08-07-2020, 07:18 PM
Lebron in the 1 spot for sure, the rest of the league is more or less interchangeable.
tpols
08-07-2020, 07:21 PM
Kawhi, Giannis, Jokic.
Real14
08-07-2020, 08:07 PM
Kawhi, Harden and Giannis. A.D is number 4.
StrongLurk
08-07-2020, 08:21 PM
Kawhi, Giannis and LeBron/Harden share 3rd spot
Harden has clearly been above Lebron these last two years. Lebron is still great, but he is living off of his rep some, kind of like Kobe in 2011-2013. Still a great player, but relatively overrated. Last two years below.
Harden:
143 Games - 35.3/6.5/7.5 averages on 61.8 TS%, 29.7 PER, 10.2 BPM, 16.2 VORP - 36.7mpg
Lebron:
119 Games - 26.3/8.2/9.4 averages on 58.3% TS, 25.5 PER, 8.3 BPM, 10.8 VORP - 35mpg
Honestly, how can anyone say Lebron has been better?
You can absolutely make the case that Harden has been the best player in the league since last year (I have KD number 1 in 2019 though before getting injured). Kawhi was great last year as well, but he didn't face KD for 5 games with GS like Harden did.
Not counting LeBron (the best player in the world during the playoffs)
Best player to be swept in the finals? Ok.
FreezingTsmoove
08-07-2020, 08:40 PM
James Harden
TJ Warren
Damian Lillard
Roundball_Rock
08-07-2020, 08:51 PM
1) Giannis
2) Kawhi
3) Harden
HM: Davis, LeBron
SATAN
08-07-2020, 09:12 PM
LeBron James is the best basketball player of all time.
kawhileonard2
08-08-2020, 12:12 AM
Lebron in the 1 spot for sure, the rest of the league is more or less interchangeable.
Didn't even make the playoffs last year. Maybe not even top 5. Got swept last time he was in the playoffs.
kawhileonard2
08-08-2020, 12:13 AM
1) Giannis
2) Kawhi
3) Harden
HM: Davis, LeBron
Why Giannis over Kawhi?
highwhey
08-08-2020, 12:18 AM
tj warren?
:roll:
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JohnMax
08-08-2020, 12:26 AM
tier 1
Curry
Kawhi
tier 2
Harden
Giannis
Tier 3
CP3
Lillard
I don't count frauds that need to switch teams in order to win.
highwhey
08-08-2020, 12:30 AM
tier 1
Curry
Kawhi
tier 2
Harden
Giannis
Tier 3
CP3
Lillard
I don't count frauds that need to switch teams in order to win.
your avatar is the biggest fraud in the league
regular season mvp
post season loser. can't win for shit when it matters. probably has something to do with his lack of actual skill.
Airupthere
08-08-2020, 12:43 AM
Giannis, kawhi, harden
KD and curry if playing and healthy
Rudeboy3
08-08-2020, 12:44 AM
There is literally nothing kawhi has done this season, for him to be anywhere ahead of Giannis. If your list doesn't start with Giannis, delete it
Lion's pride
08-08-2020, 12:52 AM
Pre Bubble, Yanny, Lebeach, Harden..
Playoff Bubble.. Tatum, Dame (if that motha gets in) MPJ..Jokic filling up 4th spot ..
Yannis gonna Choke, again... Harden going playoff Harden, Lebeach, Kawhi looking older than me..
NugzFan
08-08-2020, 01:00 AM
your avatar is the biggest fraud in the league
regular season mvp
post season loser. can't win for shit when it matters. probably has something to do with his lack of actual skill.
something seems wrong...you bring up devin booker then say this?
I cant quite figure it out but something is off here.
highwhey
08-08-2020, 01:06 AM
something seems wrong...you bring up devin booker then say this?
I cant quite figure it out but something is off here.
you sound salty that no one on the nuggs is clutch like Book.
NugzFan
08-08-2020, 01:08 AM
you sound salty that no one on the nuggs is clutch like Book.
um...ignoring the fact that you're just wrong.
why would I be salty? im just confused. maybe you can help clarify.
you call giannis a "post season loser". but booker has 0 post season wins in his career. its impossible to have fewer. where are you going with this?
highwhey
08-08-2020, 01:16 AM
um...ignoring the fact that you're just wrong.
why would I be salty? im just confused. maybe you can help clarify.
you call giannis a "post season loser". but booker has 0 post season wins in his career. its impossible to have fewer. where are you going with this?
ahh yes, the classical comparison of apples to oranges.
give booker a more talented team and he may make it to the post season. having a g-leauge pg and bench players won't get you far no matter who you are.
NugzFan
08-08-2020, 01:29 AM
ahh yes, the classical comparison of apples to oranges.
give booker a more talented team and he may make it to the post season. having a g-leauge pg and bench players won't get you far no matter who you are.
sure but a lot of the responsibility, and therefore blame, has to also go to booker himself. he doesnt get a free pass from all this. its not all his fault. but a lot of it is. hes the star of the team.
you cant bring up booker and at the same time call giannis a post season loser. :no:
highwhey
08-08-2020, 01:31 AM
sure but a lot of the responsibility, and therefore blame, has to also go to booker himself. he doesnt get a free pass from all this. its not all his fault. but a lot of it is. hes the star of the team.
you cant bring up booker and at the same time call giannis a post season loser. :no:
well, for one, giannis is constantly rated as a tier 1 player. many say he's the best...booker doesn't get rated even in the top 20.
so yeah...
NugzFan
08-08-2020, 01:37 AM
well, for one, giannis is constantly rated as a tier 1 player. many say he's the best...booker doesn't get rated even in the top 20.
so yeah...
wait, so your defense to calling giannis a loser is that hes a top player who has lost in the playoffs, and booker is simply worse and thus is immune to postseason criticism?
then why did you bring up booker in the first place? you cant have it both ways.
if giannis is a "loser" then thats really bad news for booker.
besides the thread asked whos a top 3 player in the league right now. you brought up booker. if hes top 3, then why does he have zero post season wins? your logic is all over the place.
highwhey
08-08-2020, 01:42 AM
wait, so your defense to calling giannis a loser is that hes a top player who has lost in the playoffs, and booker is simply worse and thus is immune to postseason criticism?
then why did you bring up booker in the first place? you cant have it both ways.
if giannis is a "loser" then thats really bad news for booker.
besides the thread asked whos a top 3 player in the league right now. you brought up booker. if hes top 3, then why does he have zero post season wins? your logic is all over the place.
booker has a shitty team. shitty coach, shitty organization all around. he's been performing well however.
giannis is overrated bc he has no actual skill.
kkb_12
08-08-2020, 01:42 AM
Giannis, Kawhi, Lebron
with AD, Harden and Jokic following closely.
And waiting for Durant and Curry to come back next year.
NugzFan
08-08-2020, 01:45 AM
booker has a shitty team. shitty coach, shitty organization all around. he's been performing well however.
giannis is overrated bc he has no actual skill.
dear lord...
so let me get this straight...booker is a top 3 player in the league with zero playoff wins, but all of the blame of his lack of success is due to teammates, coaches, front office, etc...
but giannis is an overrated loser with no skill?
um...yeah. ok. you're not a big fan of credibility, facts, or logic, are you? just close your eyes, go full homer and pray for the best? good luck with that.
72-10
08-08-2020, 02:53 AM
I'd say LeBron is one of them. He's just a monster.
tier 1
Curry
Kawhi
tier 2
Harden
Giannis
Tier 3
CP3
Lillard
I don't count frauds that need to switch teams in order to win.
Curry is tier 1 today? Where the hell is he tho? :oldlol:
OrlandoMagicGuy
08-08-2020, 06:22 AM
Curry is tier 1 today? Where the hell is he tho? :oldlol:
He's a complete liability on defense and too reliant on the 3 which is probably why his production always dips down in the postseason.Can't be in the same tier as someone that has more tools in the toolbox and elite on both ends in the court.
He's a complete liability on defense and too reliant on the 3 which is probably why his production always dips down in the postseason.Can't be in the same tier as someone that has more tools in the toolbox and elite on both ends in the court.
Yeah and he can't carry a team to a win on his own alone without klay playing at the same time, something that was already proven during game 3 of the 2019 finals. He's just a part of a great winning team but his former teammate kd was better when he was still playing with them.
Manny98
08-08-2020, 06:51 AM
1. Lebron
2. Giannis
3. Kawhi
HM - Curry & Durant because injuries
TheReturn
08-08-2020, 09:07 AM
Agree with the names mentioned. As for ordering I would say:
1. LBJ
2. KD
3. Kawhi
4. Steph
5. Giannis
Giannis can climb, but I haven't seen him dominate the playoffs on the level of the other players yet.
34-24 Footwork
08-08-2020, 11:40 AM
Lebron missed the playoffs last year by a WIDE Margin, got a care package from the league and Klutch Sportz in AD, and riding the coattails of arguably a top 3 player in the league. Not in the discussion.
AD
Gianni
Harden
In any given order or any given night.
StrongLurk
08-08-2020, 01:27 PM
I dont understand how anyone has Lebron in the top 3? I mean, Lebron is my favorite player in the league right now, but he hasn't done anything over the last two years to be considered better than Kawhi, Harden, or Giannis.
Who is the worst player out of the below?
Player A:
143 Games - 35.3/6.5/7.5 averages on 61.8 TS%, 29.7 PER, 10.2 BPM, 16.2 VORP - 36.7mpg - (Elite playoff run)
Player B:
119 Games - 26.3/8.2/9.4 averages on 58.3 TS%, 25.5 PER, 8.3 BPM, 10.8 VORP - 35mpg (No playoffs)
Player C:
115 Games - 26.7/7.3/4.1 averages on 59.6 TS%, 26.2 PER, 8.0 BPM, 9.6 VORP - 33.2mpg (Finals appearance)
Player D:
133 Games - 28.6/13/5.8 averages on 62.9 TS%, 31.4 PER, 11.0 BPM, 13.9 VORP - 31.8mpg (Elite playoff run)
insidious301
08-08-2020, 01:32 PM
Agree with the names mentioned. As for ordering I would say:
1. LBJ
2. KD
3. Kawhi
4. Steph
5. Giannis
Giannis can climb, but I haven't seen him dominate the playoffs on the level of the other players yet.
This is a good list, TheReturn. LeBron #1 makes sense too because of the impact he still has in his 20th season.
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/WINS
nbalover123
08-08-2020, 01:37 PM
Lou Williams
Magic city Lou
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