Try and name a single US President who was a good person

[RRR3]

Hit me with a name and your reasoning and I’ll tell you at least one reason they’re bad.

Seriously, the closest I can think of is Jimmy Carter and he still sold weapons to shady groups iirc.

[SouBeachTalents]

You think Obama was a bad person?

[DoctorP]

ive never met one president, personally. amazing that you have the ability to travel in time and meet and talk to so many presidents. amazing.

[FourthTenor]

By good do you mean perfect?

Or...?

[KennyPowers]

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[Manny98]

Kennedy & Lincoln were good people

Lincoln ending slavery was one of the biggest moments in American History and forever makes him the GOAT president

[RRR3]

You think Obama was a bad person?
The guy who bombed countless civilians, didn’t push for universal healthcare when his party controlled congress, sent federal goons after protestors, didn’t stop fracking, bailed out the banks, treated immigrants poorly and sabotaged a genuinely decent political (Bernie Sanders) when it looked like he was going to be the nominee? Yes, absolutely Obama is a bad person.

[DoctorP]

The guy who bombed countless civilians, didn’t push for universal healthcare when his party controlled congress, sent federal goons after protestors, didn’t stop fracking, bailed out the banks, treated immigrants poorly and sabotaged a genuinely decent political (Bernie Sanders) when it looked like he was going to be the nominee? Yes, absolutely Obama is a bad person.

:pimp:

politics as usual. a muslim would never prop up a jewish socialist

[RRR3]

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•Tried to get rid of Obamacare (which sucks don’t get me wrong) without a viable replacement
•Treats immigrants poorly. I support Trump building the wall actually, but there’s no reason to not provide vaccines and continue Obama’s policy of putting people in cages.
•Economic policies that favor the rich and screw the working class
•Disastrous environmental policies
•Could have ended the conflict in Yemen but refused to do so
•Increased Drone strikes from Obama (quite an accomplishment)
•Sent Federal goons after protestors

[RRR3]

Kennedy & Lincoln were good people

Lincoln ending slavery was one of the biggest moments in American History and forever makes him the GOAT president
The same Kennedy who covered up shit about Vietnam and tried to overthrow Castro because “communism bad”?

The same Lincoln who only ended slavery as a last resort and slaughtered native Americans?

[DoctorP]

The same Kennedy who covered up shit about Vietnam and tried to overthrow Castro because “communism bad”?

The same Lincoln who only ended slavery as a last resort and slaughtered native Americans?

RRR3 jerks off a room away from his mother everyday. that seems okay to you guys?

[FourthTenor]

•Tried to get rid of Obamacare (which sucks don’t get me wrong) without a viable replacement
•Treats immigrants poorly. I support Trump building the wall actually, but there’s no reason to not provide vaccines and continue Obama’s policy of putting people in cages.
•Economic policies that favor the rich and screw the working class
•Disastrous environmental policies
•Could have ended the conflict in Yemen but refused to do so
•Increased Drone strikes from Obama (quite an accomplishment)
•Sent Federal goons after protestors


It’s OVER bro.

You and all the libs played the identity politics game for too long and now America simply cant sustain itself.

That’s nice that youve gained a small bit of perspective but it’s moot. The experiment is over. Constitutional democracy is on the way out.

Second world plantation style socialism is on the way in. Lots of people getting low government rations for gov mandated labor.

Big $$$ for the people in charge.

No more independent communities full of freedom lovin gun owners who dont cooperate. Too racist. Cant have it.

Black Lives Matter.

Welcome to America.

[RRR3]

DoctorPee melting down as usual. Time to take your meds, lil guy.

[Shogon]

Nobody is perfect and completely selfless.

Based on all accounts, Lincoln was a damn good man so shut your mouth you ungrateful swine.

There’s more than a good chance that none of us would be posting on this board if Kennedy wasn’t president because we all probably would have died or not been born along with most of humanity. Civilization would have ceased.

Generally speaking, however, you’d have to be ****ed up in the head to want that job today. And it’s been that way for a long, long time.

[DoctorP]

DoctorPee melting down as usual. Time to take your meds, lil guy.

do you honestly expect perfection from every president? youre so ignorant. especially to cuba

[DoctorP]

it just shocks me how ignorant people speak the loudest

[RRR3]

It’s OVER bro.

You and all the libs played the identity politics game for too long and now America simply cant sustain itself.

That’s nice that youve gained a small bit of perspective but it’s moot. The experiment is over. Constitutional democracy is on the way out.

Second world plantation style socialism is on the way in. Lots of people getting low government rations for gov mandated labor.

Big $$$ for the people in charge.

No more independent communities full of freedom lovin gun owners who dont cooperate. Too racist. Cant have it.

Black Lives Matter.

Welcome to America.
What the actual hell? Am I not allowed to criticize Trump? This thread isn’t about him, and if you think liberals would say the things I say, you are quite delusional. Respond to the thread topic, please, I’ll be happy to debate with you if you want to say any President was a good person.

[DoctorP]

what a retarded topic

[dude77]

The same Kennedy who covered up shit about Vietnam and tried to overthrow Castro because “communism bad”?



speak not of what you don't have a fkn clue of smh ... he would've done cuba and its people a big ass favor had he taken out castro

[RRR3]

what a retarded topic
It’s gonna be ok, slugger.

[DoctorP]

first of all: define what a "good" person is. surely not one that is jobless and jerks to porn next to his mummy

[DoctorP]

what you are is a judgemental NARK

[RRR3]

speak not of what you don't have a fkn clue of smh ... he would've done cuba and its people a big ass favor had he taken out castro
Imperialism is bad. Cuba was none of Kennedy’s business, regardless of Castro’s flaws. You are ignoring the fact that the US supported Batista who was far worse than Castro by any objective measure.

[RRR3]

DoctorPee: you’re not a good person unless you have a job



:yaohappy:


And this guy voted for Bernie. Eeyikes.

[DoctorP]

DoctorPee: you’re not a good person unless you have a job



:yaohappy:


And this guy voted for Bernie. Eeyikes.

yeah, being a judgemental nark on a message board as a job is not respectable

[FourthTenor]

What the actual hell? Am I not allowed to criticize Trump? This thread isn’t about him, and if you think liberals would say the things I say, you are quite delusional. Respond to the thread topic, please, I’ll be happy to debate with you if you want to say any President was a good person.

Not sure which voice in your head mentioned Trump, but it wasnt mine.

I quoted your post to indicate my post was addressed to you. Didnt say anything about Orange Man.

It’s over. “Your crowd” cares more about ravaging statues and rolling around on the white house lawn screaming hysterically and defecating themselves than accomplishing anything.

Everything you “want Bernie to do” is stuff you guys could just do yourself. But you never do. And the elites now have your crowd running the normal middle class people out of town and eventually out of the country.

Nothing left to wait for but the police state to eventually clamp down on these savages as the normal peeps flee for their lives. Which will take another few years but it’s comin.

Youve cast your lot with the whackos. Lets see how long you stick with em.

[DoctorP]

I love Bernie. Id still vote for him. keep laughing.

[DoctorP]

Still waiting for you to define what a "good" person is. surely you are not one of them. judging people is vile.

[Manny98]

The same Kennedy who covered up shit about Vietnam and tried to overthrow Castro because “communism bad”?

The same Lincoln who only ended slavery as a last resort and slaughtered native Americans?
Lincoln still ended slavery and was extremely against the idea of Americans owning slaves.

And being against Castro's communist doesn't really make you a bad person

[RRR3]

Not sure which voice in your head mentioned Trump, but it wasnt mine.

I quoted your post to indicate my post was addressed to you. Didnt say anything about Orange Man.

It’s over. “Your crowd” cares more about ravaging statues and rolling around on the white house lawn screaming hysterically and defecating themselves than accomplishing anything.

Everything you “want Bernie to do” is stuff you guys could just do yourself. But you never do. And the elites now have your crowd running normal people out of town.

Nothing left to wait for but the police state to eventually clamp down on these savages as the normal peeps flee for their lives. Which will take another few years but it’s comin.

Youve cast your lot with the whackos. Lets see how long you stick with em.
There are very few people in America with my views politically. Most of the people you are lumping me with would detest my stances on immigration, cancel culture, freedom of speech and guns. The people you are talking about are more worried about trans representation in children’s films than the fact that both parties are ****ing us.

[Manny98]

first of all: define what a "good" person is. surely not one that is jobless and jerks to porn next to his mummy
Good & Bad are entirely based on the individuals perception of the world, there technically isn't a set in stone module of what is good or bad

[RRR3]

Lincoln still ended slavery and was extremely against the idea of Americans owning slaves.

And being against Castro's communist doesn't really make you a bad person
I’m not saying Lincoln never did good things, I’m saying he did things that make it hard to call him a good person. There are levels to this, I didn’t say he was Hitler.

Same applies to Kennedy. Being against Castro certainly doesn’t make you bad, but trying to overthrow a leader who at that time was wildly popular in his country for dubious reasons certainly doesn’t make you good.

[DoctorP]

Good & Bad are entirely based on the individuals perception of the world, there technically isn't a set in stone module of what is good or bad

thats why this thread is just retarded. RRR3 wants to play god and judge the presidents.

I say we judge RRR3

[FourthTenor]

There are very few people in America with my views politically. Most of the people you are lumping me with would detest my stances on immigration, cancel culture, freedom of speech and guns.


As I said, nice you managed to gain a bit of perspective. But it’s too little too late.

Conservative values wont last and left wing utopia isnt coming. America will become an extension of Latin America. It’s too valuable to the elites to allow it to be anything else. Theyre using all these young, dumb, self important, wannabe-revolutionary “protesters” as a battering ram to get the middle class out the way.

But the future aint bright for the protestors. Theyre EMPIRICALLY lower on the spectrum of cognitive ability. Theyre a mixed crowd of dainty outcasts and violent lunatics.

They’ll soon be subjugated.

It doesnt happen overnight.

But the long game is in play.

[RRR3]

Good and bad are subjective but I think we all have a general idea of what we consider them to be, and by most people’s standards, every US President has done things that would at least put their goodness into question. I’m not sure why this thread is triggering people so badly. Most countries don’t have leaders who are legitimately good people. They are rare. It is hardly unique to America.

[DoctorP]

Good and bad are subjective but I think we all have a general idea of what we consider them to be, and by most people’s standards, every US President has done things that would at least put their goodness into question. I’m not sure why this thread is triggering people so badly. Most countries don’t have leaders who are legitimately good people. They are rare. It is hardly unique to America.

"we all" slave-minded, commie mentality. those two words say it all. we are individuals. there is no collective consciousness.

[FourthTenor]

Good and bad are subjective but I think we all have a general idea of what we consider them to be, and by most people’s standards, every US President has done things that would at least put their goodness into question. I’m not sure why this thread is triggering people so badly. Most countries don’t have leaders who are legitimately good people. They are rare. It is hardly unique to America.


:roll:


Nobody’s triggered. Thats just what you tell yourself when your threads CONSTANTLY backfire :lol

[DoctorP]

:roll:


Nobody’s triggered. Thats just what you tell yourself when your threads CONSTANTLY backfire :lol

at least he's getting a better education here than at his community college. ISH diploma

[RRR3]

As I said, nice you managed to gain a bit of perspective. But it’s too little too late.

Conservative values wont last and left wing utopia isnt coming. America will become an extension of Latin America. It’s too valuable to the elites to allow it to be anything else. Theyre using all these young, dumb, self important, wannabe-revolutionary “protesters” as a battering ram to get the middle class out the way.

But the future aint bright for the protestors. Theyre EMPIRICALLY lower on the spectrum of cognitive ability. Theyre a mixed crowd of dainty outcasts and violent lunatics.

They’ll soon be subjugated.

It doesnt happen overnight.

But the long game is in play.
You continuously misinterpret the Democratic Party’s agenda. They are quite conservative, don’t let the fact that they obsessively hate Trump fool you into thinking they desire the creation of a truly leftist nation. They certainly weaponize identity politics and will espouse verbal support for the protestors in an attempt to win their votes, but they will never address the core issues plaguing society nor will they capitulate to the insane demands the mob is making like abolishing the police (I hate police but this is just a retarded reactionary viewpoint) or removing all images of white Jesus. These people will have more representation if, as I suspect, AOC eventually becomes president, and while I genuinely support AOC, I do not fully trust her. My support for her is based upon the fact that she will ostensibly address many of the main issues plaguing our society, but I do worry she could sell out and be hyper focused on dumb identify politics bullshit instead. It’s a concern to be sure. I do not trust her as much as I trust Bernie and I don’t even fully trust Bernie, although I think he generally means well.

[FourthTenor]

at least he's getting a better education here than at his community college. ISH diploma

Yessir.

Proud alum myself :pimp:

Learned a lot more arguing with people here over the years than I ever would have at SJWU.

Ofc I win my arguments a lot more often than R3.

But same general idea.

[RRR3]

"we all" slave-minded, commie mentality. those two words say it all. we are individuals. there is no collective consciousness.
Do you dispute that most people have a general idea of right and wrong?

[DoctorP]

Bernie is a man of intelligence and integrity, his only fault is that he's an unapolagetic commie. If he loses because of that, that's fair. Because we don't do that here in the USA

[FourthTenor]

You continuously misinterpret the Democratic Party’s agenda. They are quite conservative, don’t let the fact that they obsessively hate Trump fool you into thinking they desire the creation of a truly leftist nation. They certainly weaponize identity politics and will espouse verbal support for the protestors in an attempt to win their votes, but they will never address the core issues plaguing society nor will they capitulate to the insane demands the mob is making like abolishing the police (I hate police but this is just a retarded reactionary viewpoint) or removing all images of white Jesus. These people will have more representation if, as I suspect, AOC eventually becomes president, and while I genuinely support AOC, I do not fully trust her. My support for her is based upon the fact that she will ostensibly address many of the main issues plaguing our society, but I do worry she could sell out and be hyper focused on dumb identify politics bullshit instead. It’s a concern to be sure. I do not trust her as much as I trust Bernie and I don’t even fully trust Bernie, although I think he generally means well.


Bro I dont think that :lol

Theyre being groomed to be the new “bad cop” aka republicans, while BLM Reps, who are winning political seats rapidly thanks to mysterious funders (thought black peeps were socioeconomically disadvantaged?) are the new left.

The paradigm is being shifted further to the left.

You seem to think “left means good.” It doesnt.

Left and right dont mean anything but left and right. They can be used for bad and used for good.

Left wing Merica aint gonna be a pretty place in 20 years.

All the values that made it nice today, and essentially made the rest of the western world nice (small socialists countries are nothing but food for empires without our protection and tech innovation)... are gone.

You resent traditional middle class people with normal values bc you still wish “life was perfect.”

But it isnt.

Now youre gonna get to live in the United States of Violent BLM.


Have fun my man :roll:

[RRR3]

Bernie is a man of intelligence and integrity, his only fault is that he's an unapolagetic commie. If he loses because of that, that's fair. Because we don't do that here in the USA
When has Bernie advocated for anything remotely close to Communism? :lol

Dude’s policies don’t even make him a socialist. He’s a social democrat, like much of Europe. He believes in a mixed economy, not a socialist one.

[DoctorP]

Do you dispute that most people have a general idea of right and wrong?

I can't answer for most people. Only self.

[FourthTenor]

Bernie is a man of intelligence and integrity, his only fault is that he's an unapolagetic commie. If he loses because of that, that's fair. Because we don't do that here in the USA


:roll:

[DoctorP]

:roll:

:confusedshrug: his record in the trenches speaks for itself. i think he cares. i dont know for sure of course but it seems like he legimately cares about the working class

[DoctorP]

bernies a dude that would tax the rich without hesitation. he would be met with total resistance from the system and he was.

[RRR3]

Bro I dont think that :lol

Theyre being groomed to be the new “bad cop” aka republicans, while BLM Reps, who are winning political seats rapidly thanks to mysterious funders (thought black peeps were socioeconomically disadvantaged?) are the new left.

The paradigm is being shifted further to the left.

You seem to think “left means good.” It doesnt.

Left and right dont mean anything but left and right. They can be used for bad and used for good.

Left wing Merica aint gonna be a pretty place in 20 years.

All the values that made it nice today, and essentially made the rest of the western world nice (small socialists countries are nothing but food for empires without our protection and tech innovation)... are gone.

You resent traditional middle class people with normal values bc you still wish “life was perfect.”

But it isnt.

Now youre gonna get to live in the United States of Violent BLM.


Have fun my man :roll:
Are you under the impression that I came from a family that wasn’t well off? I don’t resent American citizens, I resent the people running the country into the ground. Left does not always mean good (Stalin was on the left economically speaking and any sane person will tell you he was quite evil), I agree, but I don’t see how the common sense economic policies of the people you are referring to (Bernie Sanders-inspired Democrats) are a negative thing. I’m willing to listen to you about how you think they might end up limiting free speech, taking away the guns or promoting open borders, and I think these are all legitimate concerns in many cases, but I am willing to vote for someone I disagree with some issues on as long as I feel they will genuinely be helping address income inequality and other economic issues. The only viable alternative is supporting corporate Democrats or Republicans, and both of those options have proved to be detrimental to America.

[FourthTenor]

:confusedshrug: his record in the trenches speaks for itself. i think he cares. i dont know for sure of course but it seems like he legimately cares about the working class


Bro he has three houses and is kissing Biden's ass. His own staffers had to fight him tooth and nail to get health care and overtime pay :lol


All he wants is to be the leader. He doesn't care about the ideals.

People like R3 who are naive enough to believe in those ideals are the same kind of people who believe a hero will come along to save the day.

There are no heroes. Life is what it is.

Bernie is a bureaucrat with a tempting message. He's no savior. Nice messages dont get anything done when the rubber hits the road.

[DoctorP]

Bro he has three houses and is kissing Biden's ass. His own staffers had to fight him tooth and nail to get health care and overtime pay :lol


All he wants is to be the leader. He doesn't care about the ideals.

People like R3 who are naive enough to believe in those ideals are the same kind of people who believe a hero will come along to save the day.

There are no heroes. Life is what it is.

Bernie is a bureaucrat with a tempting message. He's no saint.

i wouldnt call the guy a hero, i would call him a challenge to the wealth gap from globalism. but then Trumps economy was showing some growth so Trump's anti globalist ethos seem to be trending internationally now.

[DoctorP]

even Biden knows that the USA needs homegrown industries. he wants to build new industry here at home. but the dems rarely get shit done. talk a big game. lay down to the globalists

[RRR3]

Bro he has three houses and is kissing Biden's ass. His own staffers had to fight him tooth and nail to get health care and overtime pay :lol


All he wants is to be the leader. He doesn't care about the ideals.

People like R3 who are naive enough to believe in those ideals are the same kind of people who believe a hero will come along to save the day.

There are no heroes. Life is what it is.

Bernie is a bureaucrat with a tempting message. He's no savior. Nice messages dont get anything done when the rubber hits the road.
Lol what? Stop assuming what I believe. I don’t think my vision of a society will ever exist, and certainly not in America. Sometimes I doubt we’ll ever even get someone as moderately left (relative to me at least) as Bernie in the Oval Office. It is definitely wise not to hero worship any political figures I agree with that.

[FourthTenor]

even Biden knows that the USA needs homegrown industries. he wants to build new industry here at home. but the dems rarely get shit done. talk a big game. lay down to the globalists

Biden is not a guy who "wants" anything. He is a CAREER bureaucrat. He wants whatever his biggest donors tell him to want.

Whether or not they decide to phase in more homegrown industry has nothing to do with making anything better for common people. It will be done with a huge tilt toward the investors.

C'est la vie.

[DoctorP]

Biden is not a guy who "wants" anything. He is a CAREER bureaucrat. He wants whatever his biggest donors tell him to want.

Whether or not they decide to phase in more homegrown industry has nothing to do with making anything better for common people. It will be done with a huge tilt toward the investors.

C'est la vie.

yeah, man. kinda seems to be the deal

[Axe]

What about william howard taft

[RRR3]

Biden is not a guy who "wants" anything. He is a CAREER bureaucrat. He wants whatever his biggest donors tell him to want.

Whether or not they decide to phase in more homegrown industry has nothing to do with making anything better for common people. It will be done with a huge tilt toward the investors.

C'est la vie.
+1

[FourthTenor]

What about william howard taft


You mention his name around here again and I'll smack you in the face with my dick.


You understand?

[Axe]

You mention his name around here again and I'll smack you in the face with my dick.


You understand?
You don't even have one, you gay motherfukker. ./.

[iamgine]

Hit me with a name and your reasoning and I’ll tell you at least one reason they’re bad.

Seriously, the closest I can think of is Jimmy Carter and he still sold weapons to shady groups iirc.
Good person does not equal perfect person.

[FourthTenor]

You don't even have one, you gay motherfukker. ./.


:(

[warriorfan]

RRR3 jerks off a room away from his mother everyday. that seems okay to you guys?

:lol

[RRR3]

What about william howard taft
Supported a dictator in Mexico, generally caused trouble in Latin America and had a spotty record in terms of his dealings with African Americans.

[Axe]

:(
:roll:

[DoctorP]

:lol

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6d3993983a073ab63d69ee3d0ca8703c/tenor.gif?itemid=3555158

[coin24]

RRR3 jerks off a room away from his mother everyday. that seems okay to you guys?

:lol


Why is it that the unemployed sloth that has never contributed to society, never lived on his own or travelled anywhere, thinks that he knows everything about politics and how to fix society:oldlol:

Loser can't even fix himself up to get a date.

[RRR3]

:lol


Why is it that the unemployed sloth that has never contributed to society, never lived on his own or travelled anywhere, thinks that he knows everything about politics and how to fix society:oldlol:

Loser can't even fix himself up to get a date.
I’ve literally done everything you just said I haven’t done in that post :lol

Stop projecting, don’t make me bring up Madison.

[DoctorP]

this is a non-retarded version of RRR3's thread in video form:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXtgq0Nhsc

[DoctorP]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6d3993983a073ab63d69ee3d0ca8703c/tenor.gif?itemid=3555158

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6d3993983a073ab63d69ee3d0ca8703c/tenor.gif?itemid=3555158

[RRR3]

this is a non-retarded version of RRR3's thread in video form:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXtgq0Nhsc
You do realize Chomsky is a socialist, right?

[DoctorP]

You do realize Chomsky is a socialist, right?

he's also a human being.

[DoctorP]

Chomsky's not perfect either, Mr judgemental. He's a dissident, a friend to Iran (enemy of the state) and believes in the mythical "Doomsday Clock". So what? He's still brilliant.

[coin24]

I’ve literally done everything you just said I haven’t done in that post :lol

Stop projecting, don’t make me bring up Madison.


You had a part time job loser, and staying in a dorm room or your parents taking you somewhere doesn't count.
Bring up whatever you want, doesnt change the fact that you're full of shit and part of the problem that you supposedly hate so much.

You are a leech of society that should be squashed

[MrFonzworth]

I’ve literally done everything you just said I haven’t done in that post :lol

Stop projecting, don’t make me bring up Madison.

More coping from 'shew:lol

[RRR3]

You had a part time job loser, and staying in a dorm room or your parents taking you somewhere doesn't count.
Bring up whatever you want, doesnt change the fact that you're full of shit and part of the problem that you supposedly hate so much.

You are a leech of society that should be squashed
More projection. Everything ok with your uncle right now? Diaper need a change? Latest Madison Montag video not loading?

[tpols]

The guy who bombed countless civilians, didn’t push for universal healthcare when his party controlled congress, sent federal goons after protestors, didn’t stop fracking, bailed out the banks, treated immigrants poorly and sabotaged a genuinely decent political (Bernie Sanders) when it looked like he was going to be the nominee? Yes, absolutely Obama is a bad person.

You're a naive fool. The president doesn't have nearly as much say in any of that as congress and special interests do. You have no idea how the system works and are blaming country and global wide decisions on one man saying he's a bad person?

FOH lol

[RRR3]

You're a naive fool. The president doesn't have nearly as much say in any of that as congress and special interests do. You have no idea how the system works and are blaming country and global wide decisions on one man saying he's a bad person?

FOH lol
The President has a lot of say over foreign policy.

[coin24]

More projection. Everything ok with your uncle right now? Diaper need a change? Latest Madison Montag video not loading?


https://i.ibb.co/52Y1LN1/77-B16-AB3-50-E6-4634-9430-4-D9561808-C0-A.jpg

Why don't you go live in a communist country then, you'll fare well for sure

[coin24]

Try fixing that mess before a counties problems:lol

[tpols]

It truly is amazing we have this loser nerd judging extremely competent, successful all time great people in a lot of cases ~ George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy, Grant, FDR, etc. Like... do you have ANY self awareness? Go read even a mediocre president's resume... like William Taft and you'll see one of the most competent over achieving hard working individuals... and we have a guy who lives in a ****ing basement with no career, success, or ANYTHING to his name judging people with all the pressure of the world on them.

:lol

It's totally incredible.

[Proctor]

You had a part time job loser, and staying in a dorm room or your parents taking you somewhere doesn't count.
Bring up whatever you want, doesnt change the fact that you're full of shit and part of the problem that you supposedly hate so much.

You are a leech of society that should be squashed

And you have a cashew for a dick, live in the Australian bush and analyze American politics on a basketball message forum when you're not doing this:

https://i.ibb.co/7zTZGj5/EFE8865-E-630-B-41-DC-8953-42-F0-FBA66-C07.jpg

Log off

[DoctorP]

It truly is amazing we have this loser nerd judging extremely competent, successful all time great people in a lot of cases ~ George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy, Grant, FDR, etc. Like... do you have ANY self awareness? Go read even a mediocre president's resume... like William Taft and you'll see one of the most competent over achieving hard working individuals... and we have a guy who lives in a ****ing basement with no career, success, or ANYTHING to his name judging people with all the pressure of the world on them.

:lol

It's totally incredible.

That's mean, TPols. You are not a good person....

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ConfusedSoulfulAracari-size_restricted.gif

[DoctorP]

RRR3. Learn from this. Youre a sweet dude but hold your goddamn horses.

[Cleverness]

by today's standards? nobody. and everyone ITT won't be considered a good person by future standards. many of the things you all own were made by slaves overseas, so by future standards we're all slave owners.

#Presentism

[coin24]

Proctard is the ugly OP confirmed:lol

[MrFonzworth]

And you have a cashew for a dick, live in the Australian bush and analyze American politics on a basketball message forum when you're not doing this:

https://i.ibb.co/7zTZGj5/EFE8865-E-630-B-41-DC-8953-42-F0-FBA66-C07.jpg

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[FourthTenor]

by today's standards? nobody. and everyone ITT won't be considered a good person by future standards. many of the things you all own were made by slaves overseas, so by future standards we're all slave owners.

#Presentism


Basically this.

[jstern]

Donald J. Trump. Obama was a nice person also.

The reasons why Trump is a nice person are beyond the capabilities of the average person, who are too naive in the main, to understand. It's beyond their comprehension level. They expect being good to mean always warm, and superficially friendly. The type you smack in the face and they turn the other cheek. It is beyond their comprehension. Beyond the comprehension of an RRR3 who is slightly above the average person.

The kind of good that I'm talking about is hard to describe to the average person. It's a person who gets outraged by for a lack of a better word, evil disgusting people. People who kill, take advantage of others, and is willing to put themselves on the line to rip their throats out. That insane drive to right a horrible wrong.

That is the Trump drive. It's driven by his goodness and executed ruthlessly.

[TheMan]

And you have a cashew for a dick, live in the Australian bush and analyze American politics on a basketball message forum when you're not doing this:

https://i.ibb.co/7zTZGj5/EFE8865-E-630-B-41-DC-8953-42-F0-FBA66-C07.jpg

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Lol :roll:

[warriorfan]

by today's standards? nobody. and everyone ITT won't be considered a good person by future standards. many of the things you all own were made by slaves overseas, so by future standards we're all slave owners.

#Presentism

This dude is high iq.


Op. I seriously hope this is some misguided troll attempt gone wrong. I hope.

[warriorfan]

Lol :roll:

You have busted nuts to your cousin. Don’t cast stones in your glass house brotha.

[DoctorP]

You have busted nuts to your cousin. Don’t cast stones in your glass house brotha.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/RILsqUte1MME7TzQJ9/giphy.gif

[coin24]

You have busted nuts to your cousin. Don’t cast stones in your glass house brotha.

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[RRR3]

And you have a cashew for a dick, live in the Australian bush and analyze American politics on a basketball message forum when you're not doing this:

https://i.ibb.co/7zTZGj5/EFE8865-E-630-B-41-DC-8953-42-F0-FBA66-C07.jpg

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[RRR3]

I think people are conflating being a great historical figure with being a good person. They are not mutually exclusive. For example, George Washington was undoubtedly a great historical figure who is assuredly one of the most important people who ever lived. He also owned slaves and was thus clearly not a good person.


Some of the arguments people are making in this thread are just :lol Saying someone can’t criticize someone more successful than them makes absolutely no sense. Idi Amin was more “successful“ than anyone on this board will ever, are we going to say none of us can call him a piece of shit? :oldlol:

As for what Cleverness said, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so bad argument.

[warriorfan]

I think people are conflating being a great historical figure with being a good person. They are not mutually exclusive. For example, George Washington was undoubtedly a great historical figure who is assuredly one of the most important people who ever lived. He also owned slaves and was thus clearly not a good person.


Some of the arguments people are making in this thread are just :lol Saying someone can’t criticize someone more successful than them makes absolutely no sense. Idi Amin was more “successful“ than anyone on this board will ever, are we going to say none of us can call him a piece of shit? :oldlol:

As for what Cleverness said, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so bad argument.

Dude. Shut the f.uck up.

[clutchinho]

I dont think I've ever posted in the off the court lounge but want to say this has to be the single most retarded topic I've ever seen posted in this forum

Please stop typing

[Shogon]

I think people are conflating being a great historical figure with being a good person. They are not mutually exclusive. For example, George Washington was undoubtedly a great historical figure who is assuredly one of the most important people who ever lived. He also owned slaves and was thus clearly not a good person.


Some of the arguments people are making in this thread are just :lol Saying someone can’t criticize someone more successful than them makes absolutely no sense. Idi Amin was more “successful“ than anyone on this board will ever, are we going to say none of us can call him a piece of shit? :oldlol:

As for what Cleverness said, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so bad argument.


Good is relative to the time in which you live. Good doesn't exist. Unless you want to argue that absolute good does indeed exist, which means that God does indeed exist, which is contradictory to your alleged self claimed world view.

You're retarded.

[RRR3]

Good is relative to the time in which you live. Good doesn't exist. Unless you want to argue that absolute good does indeed exist, which means that God does indeed exist, which is contradictory to your alleged self claimed world view.

You're retarded.
Look at how worked up I have you. You have deep rooted anger problems.

[Shogon]

Look at how worked up I have you. You have deep rooted anger problems.

You’re retarded.

[RRR3]

You’re retarded.
Steaming.

[Proctor]

I love InsideHoops. :roll:

[RRR3]

I love InsideHoops. :roll:
Hey, apparently you’re my alt. Shew figured it out, the genius.

[Proctor]

Hey, apparently you’re my alt. Shew figured it out, the genius.

That's just Shew's coping mechanism because he is relentlessly beat down by all walks of life on here. :yaohappy:

[RRR3]

That's just Shew's coping mechanism because he is relentlessly beat down by all walks of life on here. :yaohappy:
:yaohappy:

Careful, you’ll get him all riled up again. Uncle is gonna be hearing some Madison Montag videos coming up from the basement tonight!

[DoctorP]

I think people are conflating being a great historical figure with being a good person. They are not mutually exclusive. For example, George Washington was undoubtedly a great historical figure who is assuredly one of the most important people who ever lived. He also owned slaves and was thus clearly not a good person.


Some of the arguments people are making in this thread are just :lol Saying someone can’t criticize someone more successful than them makes absolutely no sense. Idi Amin was more “successful“ than anyone on this board will ever, are we going to say none of us can call him a piece of shit? :oldlol:

As for what Cleverness said, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so bad argument.

You havent learned your lesson you have the mental capacity of a 4 year old

[Lebron23]

They were still much better person than those communist leaders that you worship.

[DoctorP]

I think people are conflating being a great historical figure with being a good person. They are not mutually exclusive. For example, George Washington was undoubtedly a great historical figure who is assuredly one of the most important people who ever lived. He also owned slaves and was thus clearly not a good person.


Some of the arguments people are making in this thread are just :lol Saying someone can’t criticize someone more successful than them makes absolutely no sense. Idi Amin was more “successful“ than anyone on this board will ever, are we going to say none of us can call him a piece of shit? :oldlol:

As for what Cleverness said, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism so bad argument.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROOi5xagxg

[RRR3]

DoctorPee with his daily meltdown.

[DoctorP]

DoctorPee with his daily meltdown.

dude im trying to help you out. youre getting laughed at

[RRR3]

dude im trying to help you out. youre getting laughed at
You are very, very, VERY slow.

[DoctorP]

You are very, very, VERY slow.

and now low IQ troll attempts. good job. full retard confirmed. true to your rrretarded name i guess

[RRR3]

and now low IQ troll attempts. good job. full retard confirmed. true to your rrretarded name i guess
Maybe it’ll dawn on you one day.

[DoctorP]

Maybe it’ll dawn on you one day.

ooh now a cryptic insult. want to man up and tell me what you literally mean? nah cuz ur a kunt

and youre a traitor

[RRR3]

ooh now a cryptic insult. want to man up and tell me what you literally mean? nah cuz ur a kunt

and youre a traitor
I may be a kunt, but how am I a traitor? It’s not like we were best friends and I sold you out :lol
I’m still a Heat fan if that’s what you mean. Dude I would PM you the answer if I could, but Jeff disables that feature. Sorry

[DoctorP]

I may be a kunt, but how am I a traitor? It’s not like we were best friends and I sold you out :lol
I’m still a Heat fan if that’s what you mean. Dude I would PM you the answer if I could, but Jeff disables that feature. Sorry

youre a traitor to your country, dude. che guevara? appalling.

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl66KB48UaI

[RRR3]

youre a traitor to your country, dude. che guevara? appalling.
Che was one of the greats.

[DoctorP]

Che was one of the greats.

ignorance is bliss. bye bye

[RRR3]

ignorance is bliss. bye bye
Che was a very heroic man. Read about him sometime. He was trying to save the world from the horrors of capitalism. And he was willing to fight on the front lines himself. A real badass.

[DoctorP]

Che was a very heroic man. Read about him sometime. He was trying to save the world from the horrors of capitalism. And he was willing to fight on the front lines himself. A real badass.

I suggest you live in Cuba. Nuff said.

[Kblaze8855]

There are almost no good people if you set out to judge them by the worst thing you can find out they did and provide no context.

[Axe]

DoctorPee with his daily meltdown.
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[Smoke117]

There are almost no good people if you set out to judge them by the worst thing you can find out they did and provide no context.

That's how it works these days...judge someone by the worst thing they ever did and forgot about everything else. That's how far leftist like OP think anyway.

[fsvr54]

Kennedy was the GOAT president. Why do you think the powers that be murdered him?

[Gabe Ball]

All president's have flaws, simiar to how people have flaws. I know, shocking. What I remember hearing about in a video is people trying to get rid of statues of past presidents and historical figures on the basis that they were bad people.

There's two things that I have a gripe with on this subject:

1. The statues of these people aren't made to commemerate the fact that they were bad people, and that it's representative of their bad actions. The statues symbolize something in specific that these people did that was good.
2. Apparently we are the only generation incapabale of sin, and must therefore judge all of the people that came before us and remove them from our history. These people weren't saints, obviously, but to suggest that you are a better person than someone from the 1700s when owning a slave was normal, and that you yourself wouldn't become a product of the time is a complete lie.

Also yea this is tying in a bit with cancel culture, just because someone made one dumb mistake suddenly they must repent for that mistake, only to have no one accept them even after they repent and apologize. Like what, people are treating mistakes like the end all be all, as if human beings are incapable of doing wrong things.

[RRR3]

All president's have flaws, simiar to how people have flaws. I know, shocking. What I remember hearing about in a video is people trying to get rid of statues of past presidents and historical figures on the basis that they were bad people.

There's two things that I have a gripe with on this subject:

1. The statues of these people aren't made to commemerate the fact that they were bad people, and that it's representative of their bad actions. The statues symbolize something in specific that these people did that was good.
2. Apparently we are the only generation incapabale of sin, and must therefore judge all of the people that came before us and remove them from our history. These people weren't saints, obviously, but to suggest that you are a better person than someone from the 1700s when owning a slave was normal, and that you yourself wouldn't become a product of the time is a complete lie.

Also yea this is tying in a bit with cancel culture, just because someone made one dumb mistake suddenly they must repent for that mistake, only to have no one accept them even after they repent and apologize. Like what, people are treating mistakes like the end all be all, as if human beings are incapable of doing wrong things.
I can tell you for a fact I wouldn’t own slaves seeing as I’m mixed. I can pass for being completely white but my mom definitely can’t and if we were in the south we would have both been slaves. There were also plenty of white people opposed to slavery back then. Cancel culture is retarded, I agree, I’m merely pointing out how hard it is to find a leader who doesn’t become corrupted and unjust.

[Shogon]

You know... the Jews and the blacks themselves were the primary propagators of the slave trade, right? No I’m not saying that blacks and Jews were the primary owners of black slaves in the United States... far from it... but globally speaking during the slave trade it was predominantly the Jews and African blacks that were the overwhelming primary drivers of that movement. And you’re part black and a Jew right? So yeah, you might have owned slaves. So shut up retard.

Most slaves were outside of the United States. It’s something like 5% or less of slaves during that time were brought to the US.

[RRR3]

You know... the Jews and the blacks themselves were the primary propagators of the slave trade, right? No I’m not saying that blacks and Jews were the primary owners of black slaves in the United States... far from it... but globally speaking during the slave trade it was predominantly the Jews and African blacks that were the overwhelming primary drivers of that movement. And you’re part black and a Jew right? So yeah, you might have owned slaves. So shut up retard.

Most slaves were outside of the United States. It’s something like 5% or less of slaves during that time were brought to the US.
You are in serious danger of a heart attack my dude. It’s not that serious. Calm down. Relax. Breathe.

[imdaman99]

This is a tough thread. We don't know how most of these Presidents were in their regular day to day lives. I have a hard time believing a lot of them weren't good people. They don't have to be good at their job to be a good dude. Let's ease up on demonizing everyone just because they don't live up to hero expectations.

[Shogon]

You are in serious danger of a heart attack my dude. It’s not that serious. Calm down. Relax. Breathe.

Uh no I'm just metaphorically pushing your shit in on the regular because you keep stating factually incorrect, highly presumptuous bullshit.

You're just running your mouth saying a bunch of nonsensical shit. And I don't let that shit slide. So shut your mouth. Holy shit, it's not hard.

[Axe]

Uh no I'm just metaphorically pushing your shit in on the regular because you keep stating factually incorrect, highly presumptuous bullshit.

You're just running your mouth saying a bunch of nonsensical shit. And I don't let that shit slide. So shut your mouth. Holy shit, it's not hard.
You curse way too much bruh. Calm yo tits down.

[MrFonzworth]

George rr washington

[MrFonzworth]

DoctorPee with his daily meltdown.

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[Axe]

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:lol

[Manny98]

Uh no I'm just metaphorically pushing your shit in on the regular because you keep stating factually incorrect, highly presumptuous bullshit.

You're just running your mouth saying a bunch of nonsensical shit. And I don't let that shit slide. So shut your mouth. Holy shit, it's not hard.
:lol

[Rocket]

You think Obama was a bad person?

Obama was one of the most crookedest Presidents in history. His administration had scandal after scandal and then created a Russian collusion myth straight out of thin air to spy on the incoming administration. Hell he was so bad he makes Nixon look like a paradigm of virtue compared to him.

[MrFonzworth]

Triple R got the bowl cut STEAMING

[RRR3]

Obama was one of the most crookedest Presidents in history. His administration had scandal after scandal and then created a Russian collusion myth straight out of thin air to spy on the incoming administration. Hell he was so bad he makes Nixon look like a paradigm of virtue compared to him.
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Aren’t you like 50?

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

It truly is amazing we have this loser nerd judging extremely competent, successful all time great people in a lot of cases ~ George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Teddy, Grant, FDR, etc. Like... do you have ANY self awareness? Go read even a mediocre president's resume... like William Taft and you'll see one of the most competent over achieving hard working individuals... and we have a guy who lives in a ****ing basement with no career, success, or ANYTHING to his name judging people with all the pressure of the world on them.

:lol

It's totally incredible.

People of influence require more public scrutiny.