Why not have a 3rd Popular Party?

[Walk on Water]

I'm not talking about a Green Party, but a party that isn't totally left and totally right. A party that was somewhere in the middle. That way there was more than just democrat and republican perspectives. Right now everything is too extreme. People are at opposite ends. But that's mainly because you're being forced to pick a side.

We need more than 2 sides to pick from. Not just democratic or republicans. Why can't we have a side that isn't too extreme? Somewhere in between. For instance maybe there can be a party where they don't believe in abortion but they're not totally anti abortion. It depends on the situation. Maybe they believe black lives matter but they won't try to defund the police or loot.

I thought moderation was the key. What happened to moderation? It's not about being progressive or conservative, but moderate. How about the moderate party?

[coin24]

Need a white power party, really make America great again:cheers:

[DoctorP]

i agree with OP, I don't know why. Seems we are entrenched in the binary with the occasional, laughable indie

[FourthTenor]

I'm not talking about a Green Party, but a party that isn't totally left and totally right. A party that was somewhere in the middle. That way there was more than just democrat and republican perspectives. Right now everything is too extreme. People are at opposite ends. But that's mainly because you're being forced to pick a side.

We need more than 2 sides to pick from. Not just democratic or republicans. Why can't we have a side that isn't too extreme? Somewhere in between. For instance maybe there can be a party where they don't believe in abortion but they're not totally anti abortion. It depends on the situation. Maybe they believe black lives matter but they won't try to defund the police or loot.

I thought moderation was the key. What happened to moderation? It's not about being progressive or conservative, but moderate. How about the moderate party?

No, we just need less federal govt.

Let Cali be as blue as they want and Arkansas as red as they want.

The fallacy is thinking the federal government needs to be deciding how everyone lives in every part of the country. That was never the intent.

[FourthTenor]

Of course, none of that's going to happen and it's all entirely moot. There's no point in even worrying about it.

The Bell Curve's predictive model has been spot on, and the transitional upheaval is beginning.

Time to pack.

[Roundball_Rock]

The U.S. system doesn't lend itself to having multiple parties like parliamentary or proportional systems. When a third party emerges the major party closest to it adopts core parts of its agenda and takes the wind out of its sails. It has been a while but the Masonic Party, Know Nothing Party, Progressive Party, People's Party, Socialist Party, Dixiecrats (the official iteration and the de facto Wallace version in 68') all had varying degrees of political success in early eras.

Then you had parties that collapsed but were replaced by one entity (Whigs replaced the Federalists, Republicans the Whigs) versus a collection of multiple smaller parties.

[Gabe Ball]

The U.S. system doesn't lend itself to having multiple parties like parliamentary or proportional systems. When a third party emerges the major party closest to it adopts core parts of its agenda and takes the wind out of its sails. It has been a while but the Masonic Party, Know Nothing Party, Progressive Party, People's Party, Socialist Party, Dixiecrats (the official iteration and the de facto Wallace version in 68') all had varying degrees of political success in early eras.

Then you had parties that collapsed but were replaced by one entity (Whigs replaced the Federalists, Republicans the Whigs) versus a collection of multiple smaller parties.

I mean two parties are easier to understand because at this point they are a collection of one perspective or another perspective on the same topic. Obviously when someone has a new idea or proposed solution to a problem, then that problem should be looked squarely by both sides of the aisles. But creating an entirely new 3rd Group on the basis of being directly in the middle probably won't work, reason being that a person is in the middle not because they're half-way on one topic, but because they're all the way on multiple topics that are both democratic and republican.

A party like that will tear itself apart because you be a person in the middle and still not agree with other people in the middle because you may agree or disagree on different topics.

[Pushxx]

I'm a libertarian at heart but the Libertarian Party is not good. I don't associate myself with them even if I'm a Constitutionalist, conservative Libertarian.

When the LP is so bad that even a Libertarian won't vote for their candidate, you know they suck.

[Overdrive]

I'm not talking about a Green Party, but a party that isn't totally left and totally right. A party that was somewhere in the middle. That way there was more than just democrat and republican perspectives. Right now everything is too extreme. People are at opposite ends. But that's mainly because you're being forced to pick a side.

We need more than 2 sides to pick from. Not just democratic or republicans. Why can't we have a side that isn't too extreme? Somewhere in between. For instance maybe there can be a party where they don't believe in abortion but they're not totally anti abortion. It depends on the situation. Maybe they believe black lives matter but they won't try to defund the police or loot.

I thought moderation was the key. What happened to moderation? It's not about being progressive or conservative, but moderate. How about the moderate party?

A third party that's basically more of the same? Political center, with no hard talking points? That's your average corporate shill party. Basically the status quo. I'd prefer 50 years of Trump over that. At least he's funny.

[FourthTenor]

I'm a libertarian at heart but the Libertarian Party is not good. I don't associate myself with them even if I'm a Constitutionalist, conservative Libertarian.

When the LP is so bad that even a Libertarian won't vote for their candidate, you know they suck.

Yeah.

The problem IMO is theres just no good, realistic political solutions. The country is too big for harmony. Straight up. If you make it about meritocracy and freedom, things become uneven quickly. If you centralize power, it gets corrupted quickly.

Humans really arent evolved to live in societies of these numbers. It’s impossible for anyone to keep track of all the moving parts, let alone the many people of standard or substandard competence. Communities need to be smaller. Theres no reason we should all be debating so many different issues with people who live nowhere near us. But the government keeps growing and infringing on states rights, and too many people are quick to accept it so long as they agree with the particular issue being enforced.

Country is full of high strung, insecure citizens who demand conformity so their views cant be flouted and disproven.

[Roundball_Rock]

I mean two parties are easier to understand because at this point they are a collection of one perspective or another perspective on the same topic. Obviously when someone has a new idea or proposed solution to a problem, then that problem should be looked squarely by both sides of the aisles. But creating an entirely new 3rd Group on the basis of being directly in the middle probably won't work, reason being that a person is in the middle not because they're half-way on one topic, but because they're all the way on multiple topics that are both democratic and republican.

A party like that will tear itself apart because you be a person in the middle and still not agree with other people in the middle because you may agree or disagree on different topics.

Good points. Yeah, whenever a third party emerges and has some success it is clearly on the right or left. If you are a bland fusion of both existing major parties there isn't much of a reason for people to vote for you.

[RRR3]

It’s adorable you guys think there is a prominent left wing party in America.

[Table]

I'm open to the Donner party. Also referred to as Dahmercratic party.

Consider joining.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epwUTVUwB7A

[Norcaliblunt]

The vote with your time and money party is wuz up.