Besides the numbers, how many times do you feel lebron was flat out dominant

[LAL]

This season? It seemed like every game fans were complaining about him not being aggressive enough, for me personally it was frustrating watching him play for stats and seems his style of play has always been to just hope for great shooting from teammates and AD taking the harder shots and carrying, while lebron dribbles and passes and only aggressive when D isn't set. Watching the other superstars, they were simply more impressive, crazy scoring streaks, historical triple doubles, 60 point games etc..


I know bronsexuals will come up with all kinds of excuses but one thing is for sure, his level of play wasn't mvp worthy at all. I don't get it.

[Gray GOAT]

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[NBAGOAT]

most teams in the league hope for their role players to shoot well, that's not a good indictment against him anymore. He may not be aggressive with his scoring as much as you like but his passing is very aggressive from eye test. a few examples. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nPLUfKdarM. None are basic assists. He is better defensively than most of the guys putting up big numbers so that balances it out a bit. Doesnt deserve mvp since Giannis has had an all time year but he can be argued vs anyone else.

[ImKobe]

That game vs. Mavs early in the season, but overall he hasn't had as many outbursts, reached the 40 mark once too. He's in decline.

[TheCorporation]

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[Axe]

That game vs. Mavs early in the season, but overall he hasn't had as many outbursts, reached the 40 mark once too. He's in decline.
He's probably trying to become pippenesque at this point and more concerned about his assist numbers.

[LAL]

That game vs. Mavs early in the season, but overall he hasn't had as many outbursts, reached the 40 mark once too. He's in decline.

I agree

[BigtimeNBAFan]

This year he hasn't been as dominant, but he has been an efficient leader. At age 35 he has the Lakers as the number 1 seed. He has one superstar teammate, but otherwise the roster is pretty thin. Not many 35 year olds lead their team to a 1 seed. It is really Tim Duncan (who had a much better team around him top to bottom) and Michael Jordan in 98. That is about it. If Lebron leads LA to a title this year it would be his most impressive one.

[LAL]

This year he hasn't been as dominant, but he has been an efficient leader. At age 35 he has the Lakers as the number 1 seed. He has one superstar teammate, but otherwise the roster is pretty thin. Not many 35 year olds lead their team to a 1 seed. It is really Tim Duncan (who had a much better team around him top to bottom) and Michael Jordan in 98. That is about it. If Lebron leads LA to a title this year it would be his most impressive one.

Efficient leader? That's mvp worthy? AD playing like a MVP and DPOY? I was talking about being flat out dominant, have you seen Kobe in year 17? That looked impressive and difficult, domination, he wasn't getting the mvp because of their record but i wonder if only they went for 'narative based' votes like they're trying with lebron now, everyone wrote the lakers off by the middle of the season, no one was more valuable than old man Kobe that's for sure. So yeah, i'm not impressed by lebron's past 2 seasons, he still gets his stats tho, but a snoozefest on the court.

[Roundball_Rock]

He was 2nd in MVP in 2006 and he will be 2nd again in 2020. That isn't dominance?

[insidious301]

What a silly post. You dominate by also getting numbers. They aren't mutually exclusive.

[Lebron23]

This season? It seemed like every game fans were complaining about him not being aggressive enough, for me personally it was frustrating watching him play for stats and seems his style of play has always been to just hope for great shooting from teammates and AD taking the harder shots and carrying, while lebron dribbles and passes and only aggressive when D isn't set. Watching the other superstars, they were simply more impressive, crazy scoring streaks, historical triple doubles, 60 point games etc..


I know bronsexuals will come up with all kinds of excuses but one thing is for sure, his level of play wasn't mvp worthy at all. I don't get it.

Do they broadcast live nba games in china??

[LAL]

He was 2nd in MVP in 2006 and he will be 2nd again in 2020. That isn't dominance?

Aint deserving of 2nd in 2020, he wasn't that good this year.

[Lebron23]

What a silly post. You dominate by also getting numbers. They aren't mutually exclusive.

This. Leading the nba assists per game at 35. Op is a known kobetard. What were kobe's stats at age 34 or 35???

[Lebron23]

Aint deserving of 2nd in 2020, he wasn't that good this year.

Maybe you need to watch more lakers game. You don't know $hit about basketball.

[Roundball_Rock]

He sucks but he basically is consensus to finish 2nd in MVP this year in his 17th season. :confusedshrug:

[LAL]

This. Leading the nba assists per game at 35. Op is a known kobetard. What were kobe's stats at age 34 or 35???

That was a terrible mission to focus on, clearly you could see it in his game, way less domination, more force feeding. Snoozefest. Kobe had great stats and was playing on a whole different level at 34.

[LAL]

He sucks but he basically is consensus to finish 2nd in MVP this year in his 17th season. :confusedshrug:

Stick that consensus in your throat. Not in my eyes he wasn't. Media loves him, it's nuts.

[Axe]

That was a terrible mission to focus on, clearly you could see it in his game, way less domination, more force feeding. Snoozefest. Kobe had great stats and was playing on a whole different level at 34.
Lebron doesn't have to play like he did in the past seasons because he has someone to carry himself now, especially on a prestigious team that is playing in a stacked conference and one which have already won multiple rings without him.

[Hey Yo]

Aint deserving of 2nd in 2020, he wasn't that good this year.

He became the first 30+ year old to avg. 25ppg and 10 assists for an entire season.

The only other player to do that in their 10th+ season is Russ, who did that a few years ago.

[LAL]

He became the first 30+ year old to avg. 25ppg and 10 assists for an entire season.

The only other player to do that in their 10th+ season is Russ, who did that a few years ago.

So i'm a blind hater and you're telling me you were impressed by the level of individual dominance after most games this season?

[SouBeachTalents]

So i'm a blind hater
Yes

[Roundball_Rock]

So i'm a blind hater and you're telling me you were impressed by the level of individual dominance after most games this season?

I was impressed by how vastly better LA was with LeBron on the court. The game is about more than PPG, which is what you all define everything by. LeBron made the offense hum. Team PPG counts as much as his individual PPG on the score board...

[LAL]

I was impressed by how vastly better LA was with LeBron on the court. The game is about more than PPG, which is what you all define everything by. LeBron made the offense hum. Team PPG counts as much as his individual PPG on the score board...

I was more impressed by how much better they gotten with AD after a terrible season by lebron when he couldn't dominate and showcased terrible leadership. LOL "team ppg"

[Lebron23]

So i'm a blind hater and you're telling me you were impressed by the level of individual dominance after most games this season?

Mr Ian Cheng, you are suffering from LeBron deranged syndrome.

[Gray GOAT]

So i'm a blind hater

Yes. Yes, this would seem like an accurate description of the situation here, yes.

[knicksman]

I was impressed by how vastly better LA was with LeBron on the court. The game is about more than PPG, which is what you all define everything by. LeBron made the offense hum. Team PPG counts as much as his individual PPG on the score board...

then why cant lebron win without superteams? Why do players have kobe over lebron if youre smarter than us?

[Lebron23]

then why cant lebron win without superteams? Why do players have kobe over lebron if youre smarter than us?

You ain't smart. LeBron will always be rank higher than Kobe in the all time lists.

[3ball]

A hot jumper is needed to dominate

Unfortunately, per NBA.com, Lebron avoids contested jumpers, while his peers don't

94% of Lebron's shots outside of 10 feet are either "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet), compared to 77.1% (https://stats.nba.com/player/201935/shots-dash/) for Harden, 82.0% (https://stats.nba.com/player/203078/shots-dash/) for Bradley Beal, 77.8% (https://stats.nba.com/player/202695/shots-dash/) for Kawhi, and 66.6% (https://stats.nba.com/player/201142/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for KDGoat (in 2019).

So they're taking 3 to 6 times more contested jumpers than lebron

this shows a massive lack of jumpshooting skill compared to his peers.

There's no defense for guys hitting contested jumpers, so they require double-teams - Lebron doesn't even attempt contested jumpers, so that explains why he doesn't get doubled.

[ImKobe]

He sucks but he basically is consensus to finish 2nd in MVP this year in his 17th season. :confusedshrug:

Hey Lebronsexual, this is comparing Lebron to past versions of him. Or are we not allowed to do that without being labeled haters?

[LAL]

A hot jumper is needed to dominate

Unfortunately, per NBA.com, Lebron avoids contested jumpers, while his peers don't

94% of Lebron's shots outside of 10 feet are either "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet), compared to 77.1% (https://stats.nba.com/player/201935/shots-dash/) for Harden, 82.0% (https://stats.nba.com/player/203078/shots-dash/) for Bradley Beal, 77.8% (https://stats.nba.com/player/202695/shots-dash/) for Kawhi, and 66.6% (https://stats.nba.com/player/201142/shots-dash/?Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season) for KDGoat (in 2019).

So they're taking 3 to 6 times more contested jumpers than lebron

this shows a massive lack of jumpshooting skill compared to his peers.

There's no defense for guys hitting contested jumpers, so they require double-teams - Lebron doesn't even attempt contested jumpers, so that explains why he doesn't get doubled.

Yup