Can we all agree that MJ beats the 89' Pistons if not for Pippen's 10 on 40%?

[3ball]

Because if we can agree on that, then we've proven that MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win the 89' title - Phil wasn't there in 89' and Pippen's 10 points was better off being replaced by someone else

How am I wrong

[Bronbron23]

Because if we can agree on that, then we've proven that MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win the 89' title - Phil wasn't there in 89' and Pippen's 10 points was better off being replaced by someone else

How am I wrong

No sorry bruh. Bulls were up 2-1 and the next 2 games they lost while mj went 23 pts on like 30% shooting and then the next game he scored only 18 points. If mj showed up he could of overcome pips shitty play.

Pip playing better obviously would of helped though

[3ball]

No sorry bruh. Bulls were up 2-1 and the next 2 games they lost while mj went 23 pts on like 30% shooting and then the next game he scored only 18 points. If mj showed up he could of overcome pips shitty play.

Pip playing better obviously would of helped though

Exactly, they were up 2-1 without a 2nd option

What if they actually had one?.. a sweep no doubt..

And even if the series went deeper, MJ wouldn't be tired because he'd be getting help from a 2nd option...

Heck, lebron got swept (twice) and beaten by record amount (twice), so he would get demolished with 10 on 40% from his 2nd option.. but jordan went 6 tough games and would've undoubtedly won with normal 2nd option help

[Kblaze8855]

A actual playoff game is on after months of no sports and you decide to make another copy/paste special that will do nothing but get round all copy/pasting back about 8 shot games and plus/minus and so on....


You two might need a sub forum for the 6 people who still read you repeating yourselves back and forth.

[Roundball_Rock]

Nah, I have learned my lesson. :cheers: I'm watching the 2020 playoffs like real fans.

We have been over the 89' series a zillion times. It is now the 2020 playoffs on live today, all day.

[3ball]

Nah, I have learned my lesson. :cheers: I'm watching the 2020 playoffs like real fans.


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After I educated you about 2-star formats and parity

Enjoy watcing the 3-point drill.. I'll be hoopin.. you know, actual basketball

[Hey Yo]

After I educated you about 2-star formats and parity

Enjoy watcing the 3-point drill.. I'll be hoopin.. you know, actual basketball
More lies

[3ball]

More lies

Why would that be a lie? Anyone can go play basketball

Except NBA players... The don't play basketball.. they play a drill... a 3-point drill and if a team doesn't get a three, they get an open layup.. the paint has been cleared.. :yaohappy:... I'm laughing as I type.. basketball my ass lol

[Bronbron23]

Exactly, they were up 2-1 without a 2nd option

What if they actually had one?.. a sweep no doubt..

And even if the series went deeper, MJ wouldn't be tired because he'd be getting help from a 2nd option...

Heck, lebron got swept (twice) and beaten by record amount (twice), so he would get demolished with 10 on 40% from his 2nd option.. but jordan went 6 tough games and would've undoubtedly won with normal 2nd option help

Yeah thats a fair point. Maybe they do sweep them with a better pip but it was what it was. Pip didn't play well but mj still could of played much better and probably would of won if he did so hes just as much to blame

[3ball]

Yeah thats a fair point. Maybe they do sweep them with a better pip but it was what it was. Pip didn't play well but mj still could of played much better and probably would of won if he did so hes just as much to blame

McHale vs 87' Pistons... 19 on 63%

Parish vs 87' Pistons..... 16 on 56%

Worthy vs 88' Pistons.... 22 on 49% (FMVP)

Kersey vs 90 Pistons..... 19 on 47%

Pippen vs 89' Pistons.... 10 on 40%


^^^ So anyone could've helped MJ win the title in 89' except Pippen... And Phil wasn't there, so MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win in 89'

[Bronbron23]

McHale vs 87' Pistons... 19 on 63%

Parish vs 87' Pistons..... 16 on 56%

Worthy vs 88' Pistons.... 22 on 49% (FMVP)

Kersey vs 90 Pistons..... 19 on 47%

Pippen vs 89' Pistons.... 10 on 40%


^^^ So anyone could've helped MJ win the title in 89' except Pippen... And Phil wasn't there, so MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win in 89'

yeah but you act like mj balled put the last few games. He didnt. The fact is he was up 2-1 and the then played like a bum for the most part after that. You cant put it all on pip.

[3ball]

yeah but you act like mj balled put the last few games. He didnt. The fact is he was up 2-1 and the then played like a bum for the most part after that. You cant put it all on pip.

It's no different than lebron in the 15' Finals - give lebron a normal 2nd option to replace Kyrie, and he wins easily.. and a normal 2nd option takes a load off the 1st option so the 1st option doesn't wear down towards the end like lebron and jordan did

[Bronbron23]

It's no different than lebron in the 15' Finals - give lebron a normal 2nd option to replace Kyrie, and he wins easily.. and a normal 2nd option takes a load off the 1st option so the 1st option doesn't wear down towards the end like lebron and jordan did

yeah but you keep bringing up lebron like that means something. We all know there has been times where bron underperformed. Thats the point. So has mj. Maybe not as often but he has.

[FireDavidKahn]

OP just admitted that MJ needed Scottie to carry him.

[FireDavidKahn]

I mean, LeBron won a championship with the 3rd best player in the league averaging 8.5 on 36%.

Why can't MJ beat a much lesser team with higher production on both offense and especially defense from Scottie?

[Lebron23]

Jordan had a migraine in Game 5.

[3ball]

Jordan had a migraine in Game 5.

No, he was just tired from carrying the load with no 2nd option to help

Pippen only got 10 on 40%, yet the bulls nearly won, so a normal 2nd option contribution would've won it - anyone OTHER than Pippen

So MJ didn't need Pippen to win in 89' (anyone ELSE would've won), and Phil wasn't there in 89', so MJ didn't need either to win (Pippen or Phil)

[Wally450]

After I educated you about 2-star formats and parity

Enjoy watcing the 3-point drill.. I'll be hoopin.. you know, actual basketball

Will you be dunking on Zach Randolph 4 times in a row? :lol

[FromDowntown]

Shameful game 5 quit by Michael Fraudon

8 shots, 46 minutes played

Lost the series because he QUIT

Link to game: https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html

NEXT

[3ball]

Shameful game 5 quit by Michael Fraudon

8 shots, 46 minutes played

Lost the series because he QUIT

Link to game: https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html

NEXT

Compare to the 15' Finals, when Lebron similarly quit mid-series because he was exhausted from having no 2nd option and no help

If you gave 89' MJ or 15' Lebron a normal 2nd option to take a load off, they wouldn't get tired and win the series easily

It's funny because MJ wins in 89' with anyone. EXCEPT pippen's 9.7 on 40%, so MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win in 89' (Phil wasn't there yet)

[3ball]

When did Pippen do what Paul George did last night

Even once in his 17 year career

[kawhileonard2]

Well Pippen was out in the first minute of game 6 as well. I'd say 1990 is a greater shot if no migraine.

[TheCorporation]

Shameful game 5 quit by Michael Fraudon

8 shots, 46 minutes played

Lost the series because he QUIT

Link to game: https://www.basketball-reference.com...905310DET.html

NEXT

Pippen just needed a little more from MJ in game 5 and he wins the series.

MJ quit. 8 shots in 46 minutes. Smh

[3ball]

Pippen just needed a little more from MJ in game 5 and he wins the series.

MJ quit. 8 shots in 46 minutes. Smh

MJ single-handedly got a 2-1 lead by averaging 35.0/7.3/4.3 on 47%... this included 2 straight 40-point games and the game-winner over Rodman - a classic moment against a goat defender.

But he had nothing left going into game 4, which was Pippen's fault for making MJ carry the team for the first 3 games.

So again, Pippen was a bad player that averaged 9.7 on 40%.. If MJ had a normal 2nd option, he would've beaten the Pistons easily - so he didn't need Pippen - he needed anyone OTHER than Pippen.. And Phil wasn't there in 89', so MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win the title in 89.

[TheCorporation]

MJ single-handedly got a 2-1 lead by averaging 35.0/7.3/4.3 on 47%... this included 2 straight 40-point games and the game-winner over Rodman - a classic moment against a goat defender.

But he had nothing left going into game 4, which was Pippen's fault for making MJ carry the team for the first 3 games.

So again, Pippen was a bad player that averaged 9.7 on 40%.. If MJ had a normal 2nd option, he would've beaten the Pistons easily - so he didn't need Pippen - he needed anyone OTHER than Pippen.. And Phil wasn't there in 89', so MJ didn't need Pippen or Phil to win the title in 89.

Orly? MJ didnt need his trusty #2 option?

Post MJ's post season record with and without Pippen or you concede with a loss.

[Roundball_Rock]

Orly? MJ didnt need his trusty #2 option?

Post MJ's post season record with and without Pippen or you concede with a loss.

"Jordan didn't need Pippen!"
"Pippen not being there is why they lost Game 6 in 89'! Pippen's migraine is why they lost Game 7 in 90'!"

Do they need him to win or not? :lol

[FromDowntown]

"Jordan didn't need Pippen!"
"Pippen not being there is why they lost Game 6 in 89'! Pippen's migraine is why they lost Game 7 in 90'!"

Do they need him to win or not? :lol

:roll: :roll:

Got'm

[kawhileonard2]

"Jordan didn't need Pippen!"
"Pippen not being there is why they lost Game 6 in 89'! Pippen's migraine is why they lost Game 7 in 90'!"

Do they need him to win or not? :lol

How do Cavs do in 2016 without Kyrie or Heat without Wade in 2012 and 2013? How do the Spurs do in 2014? Or the Raptors without Lowry in 2019? or the Mavs without Terry in 2011?

[AlternativeAcc.]

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