When will LeBron have the ability to win a ‘96 MJ, ‘98 MJ, 2000 Kobe, 2010 Kobe ring?

[Docs Orders]

Where all he has to do is:

27/6/4 on 41% (1996 MJ)

4 rebounds/ 2 assists 42% FG (1998 MJ)

15ppg on 37% shooting (2000 Kobe)

28/8/4 on 40%, 6 for 24 (2010 Kobe)


Why were the standards to win so low for MJ and Kobe?

[AirBonner]

LeBron never had a goat defensive squad or a prime Shaq to fall back on

[NBASTATMAN]

Where all he has to do is:

27/6/4 on 41% (1996 MJ)

4 rebounds/ 2 assists 42% FG (1998 MJ)

15ppg on 37% shooting (2000 Kobe)

28/8/4 on 40%, 6 for 24 (2010 Kobe)


Why were the standards to win so low for MJ and Kobe?

BOTH OF THOSE GUYS WERE OVERRATED ,, BUT MJ MORE SO.. His teams won 55 games without him and it would have been 60 games BUT PIPPEN WAS out for 10 games.. TALK ABOUT PLAYING ON A LOADED TEAM.. LOL

[SamuraiSWISH]

That would require him actually winning, which is something he doesn’t do

[Docs Orders]

That would require him actually winning, which is something he doesn’t do

That’s the point, LeBron doesn’t win unless he puts historic numbers, Jordan wins while playing like a slightly better Kyle Kuzma

[SouBeachTalents]

He had his chance in 2011

[Docs Orders]

He had his chance in 2011


Nope, he played better than 2000 Kobe and 1998 MJ and still lost

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron lost with a 4x DPOY in Ben Wallace on his team and also a 3x finals mvp and league mvp on his team in Shaq. He also lost with another 3x finals mvp and 2x league mvp in Duncan on his squad in the olympics.

[kawhileonard2]

Nope, he played better than 2000 Kobe and 1998 MJ and still lost

Was the third leading scorer on his squad in the finals and got outplayed by Jason Terry.

[Bawkish]

When will Lebron have the ability to shoot clutch FTs???

[ImKobe]

Kobe vs Boston '10 - 28.6 ppg 52.8%TS, 10 more ppg than his #2 (Gasol played .7 more mpg)
Lebron vs Spus '13 - 25.3 ppg 52.9%TS, 5.7 more ppg than his #2 (Wade played 6.6 less mpg)

[Docs Orders]

Kobe vs Boston '10 - 28.6 ppg 52.8%TS, 10 more ppg than his #2 (Gasol played .7 more mpg)
Lebron vs Spus '13 - 25.3 ppg 52.9%TS, 5.7 more ppg than his #2 (Wade played 6.6 less mpg)

Now compare both their Game 7s that series

[3ball]

Where all he has to do is:

27/6/4 on 41% (1996 MJ)

4 rebounds/ 2 assists 42% FG (1998 MJ)

15ppg on 37% shooting (2000 Kobe)

28/8/4 on 40%, 6 for 24 (2010 Kobe)


Why were the standards to win so low for MJ and Kobe?
Lebron averaged 25 on 52% TS in 2013 Finals

that's worse points and efficiency than mj had in any Finals

Lebron also averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, so his team needed 7 games to win -anyone else would've done better than 16 on 39% and won in less than 7.. lebron was also a net negative for the series (Heat lost with him on floor)

[Docs Orders]

Lebron averaged 25 on 52% TS in 2013 Finals

that's worse points and efficiency than mj had in any Finals

Lebron also averaged 16 on 39% thru 3 games, so his team needed 7 games to win -anyone else would've done better than 16 on 39% and won in less than 7.. lebron was also a net negative for the series (Heat lost with him on floor)

He averaged 11 rebounds and 7 assists in 2013, that’s better than any of MJs Finals

[3ball]

He averaged 11 rebounds and 7 assists in 2013, that’s better than any of MJs Finals

Lebron never averaged 11 apg like MJ... And lebron was a net negative in 13' (heat lost with him on the floor).. so Lenon sucks.. can't shoot and plays scared. A frightened over-passer.. nothing like mj

[Roundball_Rock]

Kobe vs Boston '10 - 28.6 ppg 52.8%TS, 10 more ppg than his #2 (Gasol played .7 more mpg)
Lebron vs Spus '13 - 25.3 ppg 52.9%TS, 5.7 more ppg than his #2 (Wade played 6.6 less mpg)

:lol at the MJ crowd constantly trying to turn post-prime Wade's inability to play heavy minutes into a plus.

Game scores 10' finals: Kobe 18.7, Gasol 18.6
Game scores 13' finals: LeBron 22.5, Wade 14.9

10' Lakers PO BPM: Kobe 7.0, Gasol 5.0
13' Heat PO BPM: LeBron 10.4, Wade 3.1

10' Lakers PO VORP: Kobe 2.1, Gasol 1.8
13' Heat PO VORP: LeBron 3.0, Wade 1.0

[ImKobe]

:lol at the MJ crowd constantly trying to turn post-prime Wade's inability to play heavy minutes into a plus.

Game scores 10' finals: Kobe 18.7, Gasol 18.6
Game scores 13' finals: LeBron 22.5, Wade 14.9

10' Lakers PO BPM: Kobe 7.0, Gasol 5.0
13' Heat PO BPM: LeBron 10.4, Wade 3.1

10' Lakers PO VORP: Kobe 2.1, Gasol 1.8
13' Heat PO VORP: LeBron 3.0, Wade 1.0

MJ crowd? I was responding to the retard OP acting like Kobe was terrible in the 2010 Finals, he was just as efficient as Lebron while averaging more points a game and getting less scoring out of his 2nd option. I could have went with the Jordan angle if I cared enough.

Kobe was #2 in RAPM in 2010 Playoffs and Lebron was #6 in 2013.

[Roundball_Rock]

That Wade couldn't stay on the court was a bad thing: that meant a scrub got those extra 7 or so minutes because he was playing around 35 MPG, not 42 MPG. That's more than half a quarter...

Gasol in 10' was better than Wade in 13' and Gasol was much closer to Kobe than Wade was to LeBron.

[ImKobe]

That Wade couldn't stay on the court was a bad thing: that meant a scrub got those extra 7 or so minutes because he was playing around 35 MPG, not 42 MPG. That's more than half a quarter...

Gasol in 10' was better than Wade in 13' and Gasol was much closer to Kobe than Wade was to LeBron.

Which scrub? He was 2nd in the Finals in mpg after Lebron. Was Ray Allen a scrub? All the "scrubs" shot lights out from 3 in that series. Heat were down 1 - 2 after 3 games, where Lebron averaged 16.6 ppg. Wade has 32 points with 6 steals in Game 4 road win.

[goozeman]

6 championships and 6 FMVP's. That's all that matters at the end of the day. Average fans doesn't give two craps about secondary stats. That's why Jordan is GOAT and Kobe is a legend. All Lebron fans care about is the fact that he is high-usage stat padder. Let's face it, if Lebron were a couple of inches shorter, he would just be another Westbrook.