Jimmy Butler is better than Paul George

[Gohan]

Am I the only one that thinks this? Dude is an awesome leader and he seems like he knows how to play the game.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

They are roughly even for me. As a #1 scorer George peaked higher. As a 2nd fiddle for Kawhi who is tough, better ball handler/passer I take Butler.

Butler could of been apart of a dynasty on Clippers but he wanted to be the #1 in Miami I guess

[Gohan]

Agreed butler would make clippers much better as a number 2. You don’t have to worry about him taking too many shots either

[imdaman99]

It's about the East vs West. Butler goes to the west and he'll be 1st round material himself unless he goes on one of the teams with another star.

[FireDavidKahn]

Easily.

Butler is just a me first douche. Amazing player though.

[Akeem34TheDream]

I think they are pretty much same level. PG has bigger ups and downs but they have similar impact.

[RRR3]

It's about the East vs West. Butler goes to the west and he'll be 1st round material himself unless he goes on one of the teams with another star.
Butler was in the West and his team in position to have HCA in the first round before he got hurt and they collapsed without him.

[NBAGOAT]

yea but george peaked higher last year

[Roundball_Rock]

They are similar, both elite two-way players. George had a higher one year peak but the players are close prime versus prime outside of one year. Butler is more consistent in the playoffs.


It's about the East vs West. Butler goes to the west and he'll be 1st round material himself unless he goes on one of the teams with another star.

PG hasn't been out the first round since 2014, whether he was in the East or West.

[Smoke117]

Yeah, I already knew that. Jimmy Butler's impact goes beyond his numbers. He's never been a great shooter, but his jumpshot really let him down this season. He made up for it by how much he gets to the line, though. He averaged 9fta's on 13 shot attempts. I'd definitely take Butler over George when it actually matters.

[ArbitraryWater]

Butler currently 3/12 with like 4 TO‘s btw..

PG definitely heigher ceiling player.

[k0kakw0rld]

Am I the only one that thinks this? Dude is an awesome leader and he seems like he knows how to play the game.
Hell nah

[Rudeboy3]

butler is heavily reliant on fts, his offence is ass

[Bronbron23]

Am I the only one that thinks this? Dude is an awesome leader and he seems like he knows how to play the game.

Its pretty close tbh. I cant chose.

[Roundball_Rock]

Statistically prime versus prime they are dead ringers for each other.

George 13'-20' RS: 22/7/4 57% TS 4.5 BPM 4.7 VORP per 82
Butler 15'-20' RS: 21/6/5 58% TS 5.2 BPM 5.4 VORP per 82

George 13'-20' PO: 23[/[B]B]/8/4 57% TS 4.5 BPM 5.6 VORP per 82
Butler 15'-20' PO: 21/6/4 56% TS 5.1 BPM 5.5 VORP per 82

[GOBB]

Comes down to preference. Butler has his issues as well.

[jayfan]

I'd take the guy who isn't a team chemistry killer 100 times out of 100.

See ya, Paul.

[Smoke117]

Comes down to preference. Butler has his issues as well.

lol calling out Embiid and Simmons isn't an issue at all. YOUR issue is that he left and you had to pay a bum like Tobias Harris a 5 year max. That's your problem with him. :oldlol:

[Roundball_Rock]

lol calling out Embiid and Simmons isn't an issue at all. YOUR issue is that he left and you had to pay a bum like Tobias Harris a 5 year max. That's your problem with him. :oldlol:

Any team Buckets goes to improves, teams he leaves get worse. These aren't coincidences. This is a point of differentiation between the two players. When PG left Indiana and OKC they got better without him.

[SATAN]

Plays harden for the most part. I don't think he has more "natural ability" though. PG would be much better if he had Butler's mentality.

[GOBB]

lol calling out Embiid and Simmons isn't an issue at all. YOUR issue is that he left and you had to pay a bum like Tobias Harris a 5 year max. That's your problem with him. :oldlol:

Jimmy was never going to stay here because of Brett Brown. You're telling me my issue is inaccurate. You're just making up stuff as you go along? Perhaps you're drinking. Butler isn't a #1, hes a complimentary player at best. Often in Philly he go MIA until the 4th. Often it felt like watching Philly Iggy days when he went into scoring mode. Paul George was getting top 10 player vibes at one point. Butler never sniffed such recognition. It's a personal preference who you want. To act like PG is the only one with issues is moronic to say the least.

[PeroAntic]

Jimmy Butler might be the most underrated player in the league. Of course hes better than PG. Jimmy basically has no weaknesses in his game and his mentality is above everyone else's. Hes a leader, a closer, a lockdown defender and a winner. If Miami brings him Embiid in the offseason, they are favorites for the title.

[Axe]

I think so. Butler also helped carry the bulls to consecutive playoff berths when rose went missing and upset some teams they faced in the playoffs during some games. Makes me wonder why they chose to send him in minnesota back then, which i think was a lousy move.

[FireDavidKahn]

I think so. Butler also helped carry the bulls to consecutive playoff berths when rose went missing and upset some teams they faced in the playoffs during some games. Makes me wonder why they chose to send him in minnesota back then, which i think was a lousy move.

Butler forced his way out of Chicago and Minnesota and then left the 76ers.

[ArbitraryWater]

I think so. Butler also helped carry the bulls to consecutive playoff berths when rose went missing and upset some teams they faced in the playoffs during some games. Makes me wonder why they chose to send him in minnesota back then, which i think was a lousy move.

Cause the team was going nowhere and Butler had his prime ahead of him?

[Roundball_Rock]

Butler didn't "carry" the Bulls anywhere when Rose missed 13' and 14'--Butler was a role player at the time (Noah was their best player those years). :facepalm He didn't become a star until 15', the year Rose came back and the year they added Gasol.

[ArbitraryWater]

Butler didn't "carry" the Bulls anywhere when Rose missed 13' and 14'--Butler was a role player at the time (Noah was their best player those years). :facepalm He didn't become a star until 15', the year Rose came back and the year they added Gasol.

yup.

That was bs

[CTbasketball92]

Jimmy is clearly a better player than PG, and it's been that way four like four out of the last five years.

PG is really a suped-up 3&D guy. He's athletic, but his first step and on-ground explosiveness are so pedestrian that he can't generate a ton of momentum going to the rim and isn't an elite finisher and rarely gets to the free throw line enough. Jimmy's able to get to the line so much that it offsets his jumper abandoning him this year, and it gives him a higher floor for scoring when he's not able to get buckets. Jimmy is a better passer, can run an offense, can play defense just as well if not better and has a better motor. He could be a primary creator for the Clippers in a way Kawhi shouldn't be and PG cannot be. He has less variance than PG even if he rarely reaches the same heights as an offensive player. Once PG's three-ball isn't falling *he cannot score* the ball and then he's not a great playmaker and that's why I don't see him as a great day in and day out option in more situations.

[Axe]

Lmao i never implied that butler totally carried the bulls when rose went missing all day long; just that he gave some help in carrying them... He was also selected for all-defensive second team for the first time back then. But take him out of the roster when he's doing more than 35 mpg and the bulls would most likely struggle to win 45 games. Although i have to agree that he was a good role player. He didn't average more than 15 ppg until the last time the bulls went on to win 50 games in the regular season when he was also became league's mip.

[Roundball_Rock]

Has George ever had a series like Butler is having against Milwaukee?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Not even close

Jimmy is way better in the playoffs

Playoff B > Playoff P

imagine Jimmy with ****ing Kawhi:roll::roll:

[PeroAntic]

imagine Jimmy with ****ing Kawhi:roll::roll:
Nobody would stand a chance.

The PG vs Butler debate is for sure finished now.