AD is playing like this era's Hakeem

[StrongLurk]

So far in the playoffs, he's at 29/11/4/2/1.7 with only 1.7 turnovers per game.

31.22 PER, 120 ORTG, 95DRTG, 13.4 BPM.

He was an absolute monster in game 2/3 vs the Blazers and easily the most dominant player in the series so far.

Right now AD, Kawhi and Harden are battling for best in the West and there is a decent chance these players face off eventually.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Pretty stats, ugly game. Soft game.

LeBron elevating teammates is nothing new though. He made Kyrie look like a superstar, instead of the empty stats cancer we know him to be now. AD is no different.

[StrongLurk]

Pretty stats, ugly game. Soft game.

LeBron elevating teammates is nothing new though. He made Kyrie look like a superstar, instead of the empty stats cancer we know him to be now. AD is no different.

That might make sense if AD wasn't already a superstar before LA. AD has always been > Kyrie.

In the 13 playoff games AD played before LA, he averaged 30/13.

[TheCorporation]

Before LeBron, AD had one playoff series win for his entire 7 year career. ONE. In 7 years.

Now after just 1 year with the King, LBJ might get another series win for him? Basically AD could double his playoff series wins (or more) in just 1 year with LeBron??? Sounds like another Bosh, Love, Kyrie, etc. LeBron may do it again, LeElevate a flunking, underperforming playoff player to great heights.

For reference, LeBron has 33 playoff series wins

:lebronamazed:

[StrongLurk]

Before LeBron, AD had one playoff series win for his entire 7 year career. ONE. In 7 years.

Now after just 1 year with the King, LBJ might get another series win for him? Basically AD could double his playoff series wins (or more) in just 1 year with LeBron??? Sounds like another Bosh, Love, Kyrie, etc. LeBron may do it again, LeElevate a flunking, underperforming playoff player to great heights.

For reference, LeBron has 33 playoff series wins

:lebronamazed:

Cringe insecurity from this poster.

[TheCorporation]

Cringe insecurity from this poster.

Too shook to reply :lol I get it lil fella

[STATUTORY]

Before LeBron, AD had one playoff series win for his entire 7 year career. ONE. In 7 years.

Now after just 1 year with the King, LBJ might get another series win for him? Basically AD could double his playoff series wins (or more) in just 1 year with LeBron??? Sounds like another Bosh, Love, Kyrie, etc. LeBron may do it again, LeElevate a flunking, underperforming playoff player to great heights.

For reference, LeBron has 33 playoff series wins

:lebronamazed:

Before Kobe, Pau Gasol was 0-12 in the playoffs

:lebronamazed:

[SouBeachTalents]

OP's been claiming for months that everything that happens in the bubble is an asterisk, now after 3 games AD is fcking Hakeem :lol

[FromDowntown]

OP's been claiming for months that everything that happens in the bubble is an asterisk, now after 3 games AD is fcking Hakeem :lol

True

:roll: :roll:

[LAmbruh]

OP's been claiming for months that everything that happens in the bubble is an asterisk, now after 3 games AD is fcking Hakeem :lol

:roll:

[Manny98]

OP's been claiming for months that everything that happens in the bubble is an asterisk, now after 3 games AD is fcking Hakeem :lol
lmao

[StrongLurk]

It's so cringe seeing the intense Lebron stans on this board being completely unable to give credit to his teammates, especially one as good as AD.

I think you guys seeing AD raising a FMVP would cause you go full 3ball.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's so cringe seeing the intense Lebron stans on this board being completely unable to give credit to his teammates, especially one as good as AD.

I think you guys seeing AD raising a FMVP would cause you go full 3ball.

Or maybe they're just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy :oldlol:

[bullettooth]

Before LeBron, AD had one playoff series win for his entire 7 year career. ONE. In 7 years.

Now after just 1 year with the King, LBJ might get another series win for him? Basically AD could double his playoff series wins (or more) in just 1 year with LeBron??? Sounds like another Bosh, Love, Kyrie, etc. LeBron may do it again, LeElevate a flunking, underperforming playoff player to great heights.

For reference, LeBron has 33 playoff series wins

:lebronamazed:

Eastern conference was a joke and still is. AD would have cleaned up the same LeShortcut.

LeBron couldn't even make the playoffs in the west until AD showed up.

Idiot.

[ImKobe]

He really is a modern version of Hakeem, best player on the Lakers on both ends of the court.

[NBAGOAT]

He really is a modern version of Hakeem, best player on the Lakers on both ends of the court.

ad plays a lot more like drob. the low post is the weak part of his scoring game really

[ELITEpower23]

OP's been claiming for months that everything that happens in the bubble is an asterisk, now after 3 games AD is fcking Hakeem :lol

:oldlol: :roll:

[StrongLurk]

Bump

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

ad plays a lot more like drob. the low post is the weak part of his scoring game really

AD is averaging 30/12 on 53% for his playoff career

his PPG is 2nd to only Michael all time

Hes already a much better playoff performer than Robinson ever was who always choked in the playoffs

[NBAGOAT]

AD is averaging 30/12 on 53% for his playoff career

his PPG is 2nd to only Michael all time

Hes already a much better playoff performer than Robinson ever was who always choked in the playoffs

Well that’s true but I’m talking playstyle. Also 18 games isn’t exactly a big sample size(all vs gs and por).

[StrongLurk]

Through seven games AD is at 30/10/4/2/1 while only averaging 1.6 turnovers/game. 65.8 TS% and 35.93 PER. 134 ORTG/104 DRTG.

[Basketball IQ]

He really is a modern version of Hakeem, best player on the Lakers on both ends of the court.

From a talent standpoint, you would argue that he is better.

[theballerFKA Ace]

As a long time Laker fan I have to admit AD is our best player on the floor atm. If this continues he'll have a FMVP

[keep-itreal]

AD plays nothing like Hakeem. Anthony Davis is scoreless when PJ Tucker is the primary defender. Hakeem would destroy PJ Tucker

[sdot_thadon]

I'm wondering which Hakeem did some of you watch, not to say Davis hasn't played well but sheesh.......

[FromDowntown]

As a long time Laker fan I have to admit AD is our best player on the floor atm. If this continues he'll have a FMVP

LeElevate does it again

Water to wine

[Round Mound]

Hakeem actually had competition. Big difference.

[Gileraracer]

LAs most important player by far

[ArbitraryWater]

OP's been claiming for months that everything that happens in the bubble is an asterisk, now after 3 games AD is fcking Hakeem :lol


:roll::roll::roll:

[Bronbron23]

So far in the playoffs, he's at 29/11/4/2/1.7 with only 1.7 turnovers per game.

31.22 PER, 120 ORTG, 95DRTG, 13.4 BPM.

He was an absolute monster in game 2/3 vs the Blazers and easily the most dominant player in the series so far.

Right now AD, Kawhi and Harden are battling for best in the West and there is a decent chance these players face off eventually.

I mean who's been defending him in the playoffs so far? Rockets and blazers are small. He should be looking like hakeem. Wonder how he would fair against better bigs though like shaq, mourning, ewing and drob? He'd still be good obviously but he wouldn't look like this.

[StrongLurk]

Bump.

He is having an all-time big man playoff run so far.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Anthony Davis would of killed clippers anyway. Clippers need to load up front defensively this off-season.

[999Guy]

Not quite. But he sure is taking advantage of his all-time good opportunity.

Still, if Hakeem it ever played with Jordan, he’d have a playoff run that feels Shaq-like too.

This is just like KD getting to play with Curry and just dominate weak athleticism and single coverage.

[ThatCoolKid]

Anthony Davis would of killed clippers anyway. Clippers need to load up front defensively this off-season.

How are they going to load up? They don't have cap space or assets. Who are they going to get?

[StrongLurk]

He's the most "dominant" player on the Lakers. He's so consistent game to game and physically unstoppable...combining that with his jumper being hot this playoff run and he's arguably the best player in the league.

[Shooter]

Before LeBron, AD had one playoff series win for his entire 7 year career. ONE. In 7 years.

Now after just 1 year with the King, LBJ might get another series win for him? Basically AD could double his playoff series wins (or more) in just 1 year with LeBron??? Sounds like another Bosh, Love, Kyrie, etc. LeBron may do it again, LeElevate a flunking, underperforming playoff player to great heights.

For reference, LeBron has 33 playoff series wins

:lebronamazed:

33 + 2 = 35 now, 36 and 37 pending

PLAYOFF series wins in

Last 7 years
LJ = 33
AD = 1

Last 2 weeks
LJ = 2
AD = 2

[Manny98]

Unlike Hakeem tho ADs game isn't limited to playing in the post

He has a faceup game, he's great at rolling to the basket, he can hit 3s, he can pass effectively out of double teams

There is literally nothing he can't do :bowdown:

[SpaceJammeR]

op is a sh!t poster. pumping up ad like it's not because of lebron. watch the game and you'll see all these easy baskets that lebron creates.

[StrongLurk]

He's the most "dominant" player on the Lakers. He's so consistent game to game and physically unstoppable...combining that with his jumper being hot this playoff run and he's arguably the best player in the league.

Another bump.

[Phoenix]

Funny how opinions change in a month. I recall game one against the Blazers when he had a shit game and people were all over him. Now he's Hakeem level.

[StrongLurk]

Funny how opinions change in a month. I recall game one against the Blazers when he had a shit game and people were all over him. Now he's Hakeem level.

I have never said one bad thing about AD. It's obvious to any objective fan that he is a true superstar and can potentially be one of the best big men ever. He was just in a below average situation in New Orleans and had injury problems.

[light]

Hakeem was nothing like AD. Anthony Davis has guard skills. Sometimes he's the one pushing the ball up on a fast break. He's nailing threes like a wing.

Hakeem was more of a traditional big.

[StrongLurk]

Hakeem was nothing like AD. Anthony Davis has guard skills. Sometimes he's the one pushing the ball up on a fast break. He's nailing threes like a wing.

Hakeem was more of a traditional big.

That's what I mean by "this era", which I stated in the title.

He is the most well-rounded big man in the league factoring in offense/defense/skillset.

[Phoenix]

I have never said one bad thing about AD. It's obvious to any objective fan that he is a true superstar and can potentially be one of the best big men ever. He was just in a below average situation in New Orleans and had injury problems.

I don't recall saying YOU said anything bad. It was my observation of things said by other people a month ago. Which is why I said , 'people were all over him'. I didn't say 'and Stronglurk was all over him'.

That said, I'm not disputing that he's a superstar. I'm stopping well short of the Hakeem comparison. AD hasn't had to deal with anywhere near the big men Dream handled during his championship run.

[Round Mound]

If Hakeem teamed up with Lebron how many rings? A.D has Lebron so its easier to win. Hakeem won with less help.

[StrongLurk]

If Hakeem teamed up with Lebron how many rings? A.D has Lebron so its easier to win. Hakeem won with less help.

If Hakeem teamed up with 35 year old Lebron? Idk how many rings, probably not many.

Hakeem's TEAM competition in 94/95 isn't that impressive to me. I think 94-99 is the worst time frame for modern NBA ball (3 point line). So yeah he won with less, but also competed against less.

But, I noticed you simply focused on WINNING even though this is an individual comparison. Winning is important, but is ultimately a side-factor for 1 on 1 comparisons. Who would you compare AD to in the modern era besides Hakeem? I want to also say KG...but AD's scoring is just so much better than KG's.

[Round Mound]

If Hakeem teamed up with 35 year old Lebron? Idk how many rings, probably not many.

Hakeem's TEAM competition in 94/95 isn't that impressive to me. I think 94-99 is the worst time frame for modern NBA ball (3 point line). So yeah he won with less, but also competed against less.

But, I noticed you simply focused on WINNING even though this is an individual comparison. Winning is important, but is ultimately a side-factor for 1 on 1 comparisons. Who would you compare AD to in the modern era besides Hakeem? I want to also say KG...but AD's scoring is just so much better than KG's.

Hakeem would have developed more range in this era aswell (he could hit 15 ft face up jumpers in his era). Him and McHale where the most skilled 6´10 and over players ever post move and foot work wise . Hakeem was also a better 1 on 1 defender, rim protector, floor defender and team defender than A.D aswell. KG was long and athletic but very light he couldn't battle in the post offenisvely like other great centers and powerforwards. Don't get me wrong A.D is a top 5 player today but Hakeem was the top 1,2 and 3 player in his era.

[houston]

LAs most important player by far

this true right here

[StrongLurk]

Hakeem would have developed more range in this era aswell (he could hit 15 ft face up jumpers in his era). Him and McHale where the most skilled 6´10 and over players ever post move and foot work wise . Hakeem was also a better 1 on 1 defender, rim protector, floor defender and team defender than A.D aswell. KG was long and athletic but very light he couldn't battle in the post offenisvely like other great centers and powerforwards. Don't get me wrong A.D is a top 5 player today but Hakeem was the top 1,2 and 3 player in his era.

I'm not saying AD is as "good" as Hakeem. I think they are close enough, but Hakeem is ahead. I think you are relying on hindsight a little bit, but I understand where you are coming from. AD needs more time to prove himself on an all-time level with Hakeem.

But...if AD wins a ring/FMVP with a run of 29/11/4/1/1.4 with 65.4 TS%, 31.6 PER, 9.5 BPM, and 130 ORTG/105 DRTG splits? That's easily "Hakeem" level. To me AD has clearly been the BEST playoff performer this year.

Just let those advanced stats sink in.

[Round Mound]

I'm not saying AD is as "good" as Hakeem. I think they are close enough, but Hakeem is ahead. I think you are relying on hindsight a little bit, but I understand where you are coming from. AD needs more time to prove himself on an all-time level with Hakeem.

But...if AD wins a ring/FMVP with a run of 29/11/4/1/1.4 with 65.4 TS%, 31.6 PER, 9.5 BPM, and 130 ORTG/105 DRTG splits? That's easily "Hakeem" level. To me AD has clearly been the BEST playoff performer this year.

Just let those advanced stats sink in.

It was a different era when Hakeem played the game was more rough, more contact allowed while you play defense, players had post game, back to the basket game, there where more contested shots, more contested rebounds etc. I'll give you that A.D is the best bigman today though but his competition is not close to Hakeem's at the center position. Scoring wise A.D is the best and most dynamic center today though.

[Phoenix]

If Hakeem teamed up with 35 year old Lebron? Idk how many rings, probably not many.

Hakeem's TEAM competition in 94/95 isn't that impressive to me. I think 94-99 is the worst time frame for modern NBA ball (3 point line). So yeah he won with less, but also competed against less.

But, I noticed you simply focused on WINNING even though this is an individual comparison. Winning is important, but is ultimately a side-factor for 1 on 1 comparisons. Who would you compare AD to in the modern era besides Hakeem? I want to also say KG...but AD's scoring is just so much better than KG's.

Since it's a one on one comparison then perhaps we should be focusing on their individual positional competition then? Hakeem between 94 and 95 took out Ewing, Robinson and Shaq as his immediate positional rivals. That was literally the cream of 90s centers that he ( and his team) beat with Hakeem getting the better of every matchup( it wasnt a situation where he may have been outplayed by one of them but his team was better and still managed to win). The only center of note AD played on this playoff run is Jokic. Mind the fact that Hakeem was the leader of the team as well as its best player. AD is beasting right now but the leadership of the team, its engine, is still Lebron. It's just very different situations here.

KG probably is a better comparison although as you said, AD is a better scorer. Or Robinson who has already been mentioned. Perhaps a fusion of the two, a worse defensive version of peak David Robinson with more range, or a more dominant scoring KG. Those to me are more apt comparisons than Hakeem imho, especially considering that Robinson didn't win until Duncan took over as best player and KG needed Pierce and Allen. Hakeems first title came without another all-star and his second came with a past prime Drexler. AD hasnt proven he can carry a team to that extent. Maybe this experience has elevated him to that point bit we wont know that until Lebron is gone.

[Phoenix]

^ you also talk about relative competition but was it really some great feat beating the Blazers and Rockets the past month? These were good but flawed teams, led by stars ( Lillard, Westbrook, Harden) with reputations for falling short in the playoffs. This Denver team with Jokic and Murray is good but it's not like they're some all time team. Hakeem was winning titles beating the Jazz, Suns, Knicks, Spurs, Magic who also had some flaws but were led by some big name players( Malone/Stockton, Barkley, Ewing, Robinson/Rodman, Shaq/Penny). Now guys like Ewing, Malone/Stockton in particular had a reputation for falling short come playoff time but again, how is that different from your Lillard and Westbrook types? I dont see where the competition angle favors AD, especially when Hakeem wasn't rolling with anyone close to even current Lebron for his chips.

[StrongLurk]

First Finals Game For AD.

34/9/5 with 3 blocks and ONLY 1 turnover...this guy is easily an all-time big man talent. I mean, he is EXTREMELY efficient scoring the ball, doesn't turn the ball over, and plays GREAT defense.

[StrongLurk]

AD is too good if he can shoot like this. He has been on a hot shooting streak literally since the second game of the playoffs.

Made this thread like 6 weeks ago and it still rings true.