Kawhii averaging 33.3 against Mavs with only 4 made Threes

[Marchesk]

Killing it from midrange, just like Jordan would when not going to the rim. Apparently the analytics geeks hate his shot selection. That makes me so very happy. Some hope for the future. Playoff MVPs last three seasons: Durant and Leonard, both of who can kill it in the midrange game.

[Gohan]

That’s a lot of threes maybe not in today’s nba but pre 2010 that’s alot

[juju151111]

Lmfao i thought MJ couldn't play in this league, then why Kawhi averging that with only 4 3s.

[NBAGOAT]

kawhi doesnt kill it compared it to durant during the rs from midrange but the health problems might be why

[FromDowntown]

Making 4 threes is a lot :lol

Dumb point :lol

[Marchesk]

Making 4 threes is a lot :lol

Dumb point :lol

Making 4 threes over 14 quarters averaging 33.3 is a lot in 2020? Are you confusing this with the 1980s?

[Marchesk]

That’s a lot of threes maybe not in today’s nba but pre 2010 that’s alot

4 threes over 3.5 games at 33.3 for a perimeter player is not a lot since about 1990.

[Marchesk]

So Kawhi has 109 points this series. 12 of those are from three. That's only 11% of his points. Kawhi is a middle class Jordan.

[Gohan]

Oh I thought it was making 4 threes a game lmao. My bad I was bout to say....wait 4 threes made per game is a lot still

[SouBeachTalents]

Oh I thought it was making 4 threes a game lmao. My bad I was bout to say....wait 4 threes made per game is a lot still
The fck :biggums: Curry averages 4 3's a game, how could you possibly think he was arguing that :lol

[Marchesk]

Oh I thought it was making 4 threes a game lmao. My bad I was bout to say....wait 4 threes made per game is a lot still

Yeah, I wouldn't have made this thread if Kawhi was just like every other modern player. I guess I should have put total in the title.

[LAmbruh]

TIL Giannis is killing it from midrange

[Axe]

Oh I thought it was making 4 threes a game lmao. My bad I was bout to say....wait 4 threes made per game is a lot still
Imagine if all of those shots were foul counted, then that would easily equate to more than 15 points.

[imdaman99]

You act like he's not taking any :confusedshrug: pretty sure he isn't hitting his 3s, which is why he's only hit 4 of them. It would be one thing if he was only taking 2 a game. But he takes 3 times that amount.

[Marchesk]

You act like he's not taking any :confusedshrug: pretty sure he isn't hitting his 3s, which is why he's only hit 4 of them. It would be one thing if he was only taking 2 a game. But he takes 3 times that amount.

And het he's still averaging 33.3 a game, with a lot of made foul line to midrange shots. They were talking about it during the first quarter and how the analytics guys don't like his shot selection.

[Marchesk]

TIL Giannis is killing it from midrange

It's almost like there's a some difference in shooting skill between Giannis on the one hand and Kevin and Kawhi on the other.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

He is doing it while playing with no point guard, which makes it unbelievable. Durant always had Westbrook or Curry.

[LAmbruh]

You act like he's not taking any :confusedshrug: pretty sure he isn't hitting his 3s, which is why he's only hit 4 of them. It would be one thing if he was only taking 2 a game. But he takes 3 times that amount.

kawhi's taken 3 three's just right now, missed all of em :lol

[Axe]

He is doing it while playing with no point guard, which makes it unbelievable. Durant always had Westbrook or Curry.
Will it be the same with kyrie as his pg?

[LAmbruh]

kawhi's taken 3 three's just right now, missed all of em :lol

1-6 now

[imdaman99]

1-6 now

Kawhi taking nothing but 3s now, OP in shambles :lol

[LAmbruh]

Kawhi taking nothing but 3s now, OP in shambles :lol

8 FTS, 7 3pts


19 points


"midrange assassin" :oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

8 FTS, 7 3pts


19 points


"midrange assassin" :oldlol:

:roll: OP in shambles once again

[LAmbruh]

3-8 from 3

9-10 FTS


all his points from 3s and FT's :lol

[scuzzy]

lmao


tie game, last shot, Kawhi pulls up from 3.... clank....


op? :oldlol:

[LAmbruh]

Game winning shot, a 3 pointer


Marchesk deserted this thread REAL quick :oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

Game winning shot, a 3 pointer


Marchesk deserted this thread REAL quick :oldlol:

He gone :oldlol:

[LAmbruh]

He gone :oldlol:

which is hilarious considering his whole gimmick on ISH is crying when players take a final 3pt shot when the game is tied

exactly what Kawhi + Luka did :oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

which is hilarious considering his whole gimmick on ISH is crying when players take a final 3pt shot when the game is tied

exactly what Kawhi + Luka did :oldlol:

Only 1 man prevailed too :lol

Marchesk sounds like he is too stuck on old school 90s ball with illegal zone defense and unskilled goons getting offensive players in headlocks. That may have been "cool" then but we are in an advanced era of basketball now.

[CTbasketball92]

I think people need to stop getting a boner over supposedly proving analytics people wrong (not at you OP, but just saying in general, this is a fair discussion point).

There's some validity to it. When i look through great offenses, it's rare that I see someone leading them with a bad TS%. It is better to take threes than shoot a punch of jumpers with your foot on the line. Might as well take some threes and get more value. That makes sense.

With that said, it was always silly to think that Michael Jordan wouldn't be just as dominant an offensive player now as he was then. Kawhi is essentially proof of that, maybe even moreso than Kobe was.

Kawhi is a bigger and stronger MJ, but he's not nearly as athletic as 1986-1993 MJ, who was as explosive as Westbrook but had refined coordination/dexterity and reflexes like a ballerina or a gymnast and Kawhi-sized hands. He also jumped about 5 inches higher than Russ. He was even deadlier from midrange than Kawhi because he shot like 45-50% on 1,000 of those shots a year some times.

With all of this spacing MJ could very well average 38-41 ppg on 60 TS% in today's era. If you're that good in the midrange and at the rim and you can get to the freethrow line you'll dominate no matter what.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Imagine being mad the sport of basketball has evolved past midrange 2s and layups from 7footers :oldlol:

God forbid we have guys who can dribble effectively and pull up from 35ft. God forbid guys stop taking statistically the worst shot in basketball (long 2s)

God forbid data dictates the way the game is played instead of 'nostalgic feels' from 45 yo's going thru a mid-life crisis


God forbid

[Marchesk]

Rest assured, I haven't abandoned the thread. Had other things to do.

The commentators were talking about Kawhi's midrange shots and how it goes against analaytics in the first half, you fools. I didn't make this topic up. And I don't care that he proceeded to brick a bunch of threes after the topic was made. Doesn't change the fact that he's been averaging 33 with very few made threes.

[Marchesk]

Imagine being mad the sport of basketball has evolved past midrange 2s and layups from 7footers :oldlol:

God forbid we have guys who can dribble effectively and pull up from 35ft. God forbid guys stop taking statistically the worst shot in basketball (long 2s)

God forbid data dictates the way the game is played instead of 'nostalgic feels' from 45 yo's going thru a mid-life crisis


God forbid

Imagine thinking 5 guys standing around the three point line while one dude dribbles down the clock is "evolved" basketball. Imagine wanting some balance to the game. Imagine liking shut down defenses.

I like Lillard and Curry pulling up for 35 footers. I like how efficient Seth or Reddick are. No problem with those dudes. The problem is that most of the game has "evovled" into some form of the Houston Rockets. And that's not as good as what we had.

Somewhere in between 90s play and 2020 is optimal. But they need to adjust the rules to lessen the impact of threes for the average player.

[Marchesk]

which is hilarious considering his whole gimmick on ISH is crying when players take a final 3pt shot when the game is tied

Maybe you're not good with math, but when it's down to one shot, the higher percentage shot is the better shot. And all else being equal, that is the shot closer to the rim. So if it's within two points, it makes sense to look for a good two first before chucking up a contested three. Of course it depends on the situation, the defense, who has the ball, the play being run, the time left, etc. But in general, a two is better.

And yeah, occasionally someone like Luka or Dame will hit a game winning three. That doesn't change all the bad misses at the end of games or quarters. And players like Dame, Step and Luka, and Harden are exceptional stars, not your regular player chucking a bad three.