Can't Make This Shit Up- Paul George AVERAGING 15PPG on 29% Shooting

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Let that sink in :lol

This dude was JUST talking shit about Dame a couple of weeks ago :no::no:

[RRR3]

He’s in his head at this point. He’s way too good a player to keep shooting like this. What was surprising was even his defense was bad at times the other day. Kawhi must be frustrated with him.

[FireDavidKahn]

The Kawhi effect

[Jasper]

just how many playoff games has George been in ????

many playoff teams have a Robin , but pretty much in name only

[guy]

I've never seen a worse stretch of shooting then this. Sometimes we will see bad performances like this in the Finals when either the pressure heats up and/or the impact from the grind of a full regular season + 3 playoffs rounds are felt, but not in the first round in a bubble after 4 months off and just 8 regular season games :oldlol:

[tontoz]

I have defended PG a few times over the past year but i cant do it any more. Step up man. This is embarrassing.

[RRR3]

I've never seen a worse stretch of shooting then this. Sometimes we will see bad performances like this in the Finals when either the pressure heats up and/or the impact from the grind of a full regular season + 3 playoffs rounds are felt, but not in the first round in a bubble after 4 months off and just 8 regular season games :oldlol:
I think I heard the last player to shoot under 25% for 3 straight playoff games on this kind of volume was Bob Cousy. And we all know how long ago he played.

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I've never seen a worse stretch of shooting then this. Sometimes we will see bad performances like this in the Finals when either the pressure heats up and/or the impact from the grind of a full regular season + 3 playoffs rounds are felt, but not in the first round in a bubble after 4 months off and just 8 regular season games :oldlol:

I'm pretty much arrived to this, as well. I dont think I've seen anything like this. This is worse than the infamous Jazz series he had.

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He’s in his head at this point. He’s way too good a player to keep shooting like this. What was surprising was even his defense was bad at times the other day. Kawhi must be frustrated with him.

he was getting SMOKED on defense too. Staying back and complaining to the refs giving the Mavs an advantage in transition.

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I have defended PG a few times over the past year but i cant do it any more. Step up man. This is embarrassing.

I used to defend him, too. I think he's very skilled, but certainly a mental midget.

Starting to agree with Skip calling him George Paul. Lol

[Ghost1]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/ig5nmu/their_defenders_arent_great_pandemic_p/

[RRR3]

he was getting SMOKED on defense too. Staying back and complaining to the refs giving the Mavs an advantage in transition.
Definitely. It’s gotta be mental. I think he might have a big game today though. At the very least I think he’ll shoot better.

[Ghost1]

playoff p in the playoffs

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doncic and porzingis in the playoffs

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TornWickedHammerheadbird-size_restricted.gif

[Roundball_Rock]

I think I heard the last player to shoot under 25% for 3 straight playoff games on this kind of volume was Bob Cousy. And we all know how long ago he played.

Yeah, they said it on First Take yesterday. 20-25% sucks in any era but it is even worse today--especially in the bubble--where everyone is putting up big numbers and often wide open (like PG himself frequently is).

SGA 20/7/4 59% TS
Gallo 19/5/1 61% TS
George 15/7/4 41% TS

This is what makes it so bad in this case. Both players they gave up are outplaying George (George in theory is an elite defender but he hasn't been in this series--he isn't impacting the game positively in any fashion the last 3 games).

[RRR3]

Yeah, they said it on First Take yesterday. 20-25% sucks in any era but it is even worse today--especially in the bubble--where everyone is putting up big numbers and often wide open (like PG himself frequently is).

SGA 20/7/4 59% TS
Gallo 19/5/1 61% TS
George 15/7/4 41% TS

This is what makes it so bad in this case. Both players they gave up are outplaying George (George in theory is an elite defender but he hasn't been in this series--he isn't impacting the game positively in any fashion the last 3 games).
41% TS :lol

Shades of Ewing in the 94 finals.

[Roundball_Rock]

41% TS :lol

Shades of Ewing in the 94 finals.

:lol

Look at how teams are shooting in the playoffs.

UTA 65%
TOR 62%
DAL 61%
MIL 60%
MIA 59%
LAC 59%
HOU 58%
DEN 58%
BOS 57%
OKC 57%
IND 57%
LAL 56%
ORL 56%
POR 53%
BKN 52%
PHI 51%

Basically everyone is shooting 56% or higher yet PG is at 33% over the last three games?

https://scontent-fml1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p843x403/118374390_3441881902574833_1222410941918117775_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Qcnj4PUIvpgAX-p8QtD&_nc_ht=scontent-fml1-1.xx&tp=6&oh=0f37ac399a0708b4d01882c939a8af53&oe=5F6C84AC

[FireDavidKahn]

:lol

Look at how teams are shooting in the playoffs.

UTA 65%
TOR 62%
DAL 61%
MIL 60%
MIA 59%
LAC 59%
HOU 58%
DEN 58%
BOS 57%
OKC 57%
IND 57%
LAL 56%
ORL 56%
POR 53%
BKN 52%
PHI 51%

Basically everyone is shooting 56% or higher yet PG is at 33% over the last three games?

https://scontent-fml1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p843x403/118374390_3441881902574833_1222410941918117775_n.j pg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Qcnj4PUIvpgAX-p8QtD&_nc_ht=scontent-fml1-1.xx&tp=6&oh=0f37ac399a0708b4d01882c939a8af53&oe=5F6C84AC

Doc Rivers the GOAT!

[RRR3]

Doc Rivers the GOAT!
Doc isn’t the GM anymore.

[Doranku]

5 first round picks and two fringe all-stars for beta instagram posts and getting called a bitch by Seth Curry. :roll:

[Roundball_Rock]

5 first round picks and two fringe all-stars for beta instagram posts and getting called a bitch by Seth Curry. :roll:

This is why players shouldn't try to play GM. :oldlol:

[Nashty]

Not bad, some players were winning championships and even FMVPs with the same numbers.

[Marchesk]

Not bad, some players were winning championships and even FMVPs with the same numbers.

Pippen never won a FMVP?

[Nashty]

Pippen never won a FMVP?

6/24

[3ball]

41% TS :lol

Shades of Ewing in the 94 finals.

thru 4 games

Pippen had entire series like that and many 4 game stretches like that, aka 11 on 27% in games 3-5 of 96' Finals

[RRR3]

thru 4 games

Pippen had entire series like that and many 4 game stretches like that, aka 11 on 27% in games 3-5 of 96' Finals
He was hurt you idiot.

[Roundball_Rock]

Not bad, some players were winning championships and even FMVPs with the same numbers.

Who? Cousy shot 32% in 57' but the team as a whole was at 37%, the other team 38% and their was no FMVP award at the time.

The issue with 29% is the rest of his team is shooting 53% and Dallas 49%. That is a huge gap. I am not aware of any parallel for this in any series for a star player.


He was hurt you idiot.

Yup--not one but three injuries, in a series where the Bulls shot 41.6%. PG is shooting 29% when the rest of the team is at 53%. MJ stans like 1-9ball and Marchesk are being deliberately deceptive in conflating the two due to their insecurity over the size of Pippen's impact.

[3ball]

He was hurt you idiot.

No he wasn't

[Nashty]

Who? Cousy shot 32% in 57' but the team as a whole was at 37%, the other team 38% and their was no FMVP award at the time.

The issue with 29% is the rest of his team is shooting 53% and Dallas 49%. That is a huge gap. I am not aware of any parallel for this in any series for a star player.

Kobe scored 15 on 36% in the 2000. And in 2010 when he won FMVP, he shot 25% in game 7.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Who? Cousy shot 32% in 57' but the team as a whole was at 37%, the other team 38% and their was no FMVP award at the time.

The issue with 29% is the rest of his team is shooting 53% and Dallas 49%. That is a huge gap. I am not aware of any parallel for this in any series for a star player.



Yup--not one but three injuries, in a series where the Bulls shot 41.6%. PG is shooting 29% when the rest of the team is at 53%. MJ stans like 1-9ball and Marchesk are being deliberately deceptive in conflating the two due to their insecurity over the size of Pippen's impact.

Hey careful now. You might get "Coach" all seized up. :lol

[No Sir]

Very similar to Kobe’s finals series numbers can’t recall which year. Wonder if Kawhi can get them through this like Shaq did

[Doranku]

Bran averaged 19 ppg on 26% shooting and 6 TO/g through the first 4 games against the Celtics in '08. :lol

[Roundball_Rock]

No he wasn't

Lie after lie after lie after lie. The truth is he had three injuries by the playoffs. Before that (the issues started in the final 20-25 games) he was getting some MVP talk (which I am sure you will lie about as well--lying and deception seems to be mandatory for your ilk)--led by MJ himself :oldlol: ...


JUN 9, 1997

EXTENDING HIMSELF NOT EVEN YOU KNOW WHO HAS BEEN MORE VALUABLE THAN SCOTTIE PIPPEN IN THE BULLS' POSTSEASON RUN

Picking up four NBAchampionship rings and two Olympic gold medals along the way, Pippen has played the role of Jordan's sidekick. And though Jordan's basket knocked another outstanding effort by Pippen out of the headlines, Pippen's performance on Sunday certified that he--as much as Jordan--has been the Bulls' MVP throughout the postseason.

Despite playing with a sore left foot that had him grimacing at times and despite being distracted by trade rumors that last week had him going to the Philadelphia 76ers, Pippen had 27 points, nine rebounds, four blocked shots and three steals against Utah. The soft tissue injury to his left foot, which he aggravated in the Eastern Conference-championship-clinching win over the Miami Heat on May 28, forced him to miss three days of practice last week, but he nevertheless played 43 minutes in

Game 1, two more minutes than Jordan played and 10 more than any other Chicago player.

In many ways Pippen has been the Bulls' most consistent performer this postseason, averaging 18.8 points, 6.1 rebounds and 3.9 assists through Sunday while causing havoc on the defensive end. It was Pippen who made the dunk that beat the Washington Bullets in Game 3 of their first-round series, and it was Pippen who shut down Heat forward Jamal Mashburn in the Bulls' five-game series victory. "He has been unbelievable," says Chicago guard Steve Kerr. "He's hit some big shots. He makes things easier on Michael."

Last year Pippen helped the Bulls to their fourth title in six years while playing with a sore back, neck and foot, and last week he spent hours undergoing treatment for his injured foot. "During his therapy you could see he was in a lot of pain," says Chicago forward Jud Buechler. "We had no idea before the game if
he could play at all, let alone as much as he did. But that's
Scottie."

https://vault.si.com/vault/1997/06/09/extending-himself-not-even-you-know-who-has-been-more-valuable-than-scottie-pippen-in-the-bulls-postseason-run

A verifiable, historical fact but lie after lie anyway. Posting the article kills 2 birds with 1 stone: remember this when you hear MJ stains deceive and lie about Pippen's 97' playoffs performance.

We can cherry pick games too.

Jordan Games 1-3 against the Knicks in 93': 32.5% on 77 FGA (17% in Game 3, facing a 0-3 hole--Pippen shot 83% so they averaged out to 50% :lol ).

It is funny MJ stains want to make PG about Pippen. The obsession is unreal--bring up a random 90's player in connection to a 2020 player at his peak who is healthy and melting down. All because MJ still hasn't gotten out the first round without Pippen.


Kobe scored 15 on 36% in the 2000. And in 2010 when he won FMVP, he shot 25% in game 7.

That is one game--PG has done it for 3.


Hey careful now. You might get "Coach" all seized up.

:lol


Bran averaged 19 ppg on 26% shooting and 6 TO/g through the first 4 games against the Celtics in '08

Yeah, you can cherry pick any player. What makes PG different than MJ, Kobe, Pippen, LeBron, or Cousy (players mentioned here) is he isn't doing anything else to help the team win. He is a huge net negative for the team--and they gave up a king's ransom to acquire him. Look at how Gallo/SGA are doing in OKC and factor in the draft picks they gave up for the next decade as future costs.

MJ, Pippen, Kobe, LeBron at least were all up against elite defenses (not going to look up Cousy). Dallas has a cake defense (everyone else on the Clippers is eating against them--124 PPG for the team, 88% from other players)...Context, context, context.

[3ball]

Bran averaged 19 ppg on 26% shooting and 6 TO/g through the first 4 games against the Celtics in '08. :lol
I'm sure he was bad in the 07' Finals too

[Doranku]

I'm sure he was bad in the 07' Finals too

22 ppg on 43% TS :lol Had an oRTG of 84 for the series. Never seen anything close to that low from a superstar in a finals series.

[3ball]

.
Pippen was Paul George:


20' George 1st Rd.... 15.3.. 7.4.. 4.0.. 40.9 ts

96' Pippen 2nd Rd... 15.3.. 8.3.. 5.2.. 41.6 ts
96' Pippen Finals..... 15.7.. 8.3.. 5.3.. 42.9 ts

93' Pippen 1st Rd.... 15.3.. 4.0.. 5.0.. 45.3 ts

98' Pippen ECF........ 16.6.. 7.7.. 5.2.. 46.3 TS

[Roundball_Rock]

22 ppg on 43% TS :lol Had an oRTG of 84 for the series. Never seen anything close to that low from a superstar in a playoff series.

Patrick Ewing is the worst I have seen. 36% FG, 39% TS--and the guy was a center taking a lot of close, post shots (as opposed to a SF like LeBron)--and that meltdown happened on the finals stage. It is the reason he is ringless. If he shot even slightly better, still terrible but slightly better, the Knicks would have won.

As far as cherry picking games goes, Ewing was 33% from Games 1-4 and 31.6% from Games 2-4 in FG %. For TS the numbers are 35% and 32% respectively. (He had one good game, Game 5, which "raised" his averages to 36%/39% for the series.)

What is interesting is people like 1-9ball will never say a word about Ewing's meltdown. 1-9ball has him #22 all-time when the consensus is more like top 35-40 AT.

[RRR3]

22 ppg on 43% TS :lol Had an oRTG of 84 for the series. Never seen anything close to that low from a superstar in a finals series.
Patrick Ewing had a TS% of 39.0 in the 94 finals lol

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Patrick Ewing is the worst I have seen. 36% FG, 39% TS--and the guy was a center taking a lot of close, post shots (as opposed to a SF like LeBron)--and that meltdown happened on the finals stage. It is the reason he is ringless. If he shot even slightly better, still terrible but slightly better, the Knicks would have won.

As far as cherry picking games goes, Ewing was 33% from Games 1-4 and 31.6% from Games 2-4 in FG %. For TS the numbers are 35% and 32% respectively.

Patrick Shriveling. Ouch!

Did a pretty good job on Hakeem in that finals though. Hakeem had the same number of points in the regular-season, but shot 2% worse. And compared to the playoffs, Hakeem in the finals averaged 3 less points and shot -3%. Including 40%FG in Game 7.

Starks was a bum.

[Doranku]

Patrick Ewing is the worst I have seen. 36% FG, 39% TS--and the guy was a center taking a lot of close, post shots (as opposed to a SF like LeBron)--and that meltdown happened on the finals stage. It is the reason he is ringless. If he shot even slightly better, still terrible but slightly better, the Knicks would have won.

As far as cherry picking games goes, Ewing was 33% from Games 1-4 and 31.6% from Games 2-4 in FG %. For TS the numbers are 35% and 32% respectively. (He had one good game, Game 5, which "raised" his averages to 36%/39% for the series.)

What is interesting is people like 1-9ball will never say a word about Ewing's meltdown. 1-9ball has him #22 all-time when the consensus is more like top 35-40 AT.

Ah yes, looks like big Pat may have been even worse. An 85 oRTG over 7 games, my goodness he was awful. All he had to do was show up twice in the series and he couldn't do it... damn. The games were all close too, not a single double digit win on either side.

[HylianNightmare]

Getting cucked

[RRR3]

Ah yes, looks like big Pat may have been even worse. An 85 oRTG over 7 games, my goodness he was awful. All he had to do was show up twice in the series and he couldn't do it... damn. The games were all close too, not a single double digit win on either side.
Yeah LeBron was bad but at least he can say that was before his prime (09 is probably the start of his prime) and he was on a shit team. Ewing legit cost himself a ring with that shit.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yeah LeBron was bad but at least he can say that was before his prime (09 is probably the start of his prime) and he was on a shit team. Ewing legit cost himself a ring with that shit.

Bron also picked up his play in the finals. After 2007 and 2011.

He's been pretty good individually aside from the L's.

[RRR3]

Patrick Shriveling. Ouch!

Did a pretty good job on Hakeem in that finals though. Hakeem had the same number of points in the regular-season, but shot 2% worse. And compared to the playoffs, Hakeem in the finals averaged 3 less points and shot -3%. Including 40%FG in Game 7.

Starks was a bum.
Starks was better than Ewing offensively that series. Ewing was literally wasting possessions.

[Roundball_Rock]

Patrick Shriveling. Ouch!

Did a pretty good job on Hakeem in the finals though. Hakeem had the same number of points in the regular-season, but shot 2% worse. And compared to the playoffs, Hakeem in the finals averaged 3 less points and shot -3%.

Starks was a bum.

Good points. He did slow Hakeem down slightly but compare it to what Hakeem did to him (all numbers rounded.)

Ewing in the 94' finals compared to RS averages: -6 PPG, -14% FG, -16% TS

Starks choked hard in Game 7 but he would have likely been FMVP if the Knicks won in Game 6 (Harper is the only other plausible candidate.)


The games were all close too, not a single double digit win on either side.

Yup--and the Knicks actually slightly outscored the Rockets (86.9 versus 86.1--keep these averages in mind when you see people compare numbers from 2020 to the mid-90's). If Ewing had 2 good games of 7 or if Ewing shoots 41-42% TS instead of 39% TS, etc. the Knicks win.


Yeah LeBron was bad but at least he can say that was before his prime (09 is probably the start of his prime) and he was on a shit team. Ewing legit cost himself a ring with that shit.

Yeah, and the Cavs were a sacrificial lamb. The real finals was the Suns-Spurs WCSF series. The Knicks had the chip right there for the taking.


Bron also picked up his play in the finals. After 2007 and 2011.

A chance Ewing was denied in 99' due to injury, although he was past his prime he was still a productive player.

[3ball]

Patrick Ewing is the worst I have seen. 36% FG, 39% TS--and the guy was a center taking a lot of close, post shots (as opposed to a SF like LeBron)--and that meltdown happened on the finals stage. It is the reason he is ringless. If he shot even slightly better, still terrible but slightly better, the Knicks would have won.

As far as cherry picking games goes, Ewing was 33% from Games 1-4 and 31.6% from Games 2-4 in FG %. For TS the numbers are 35% and 32% respectively.

What is interesting is people like 1-9ball will never say a word about Ewing's meltdown. 1-9ball has him #22 all-time when the consensus is more like top 35-40 AT.

Ewing was the focus of the defense, while Pippen shot close to that many times despite being wide open and no one guarding him (MJ carried the pressure and defensive attention)

There's levels to this shit.. Pippen shot the worst when you consider defensive attention and option-level (1st option is tougher than 2nd)

[RRR3]

Bron also picked up his play in the finals. After 2007 and 2011.

He's been pretty good individually aside from the L's.
Shot like shit in 2015 but he had back problems that year and his shot was the worst it had maybe ever been in the playoffs because of that I think. Normal LeBron wins the 2015 finals even without Love and Kyrie. 2009-2014 and 2016-2018 (well maybe not 2011 :lol )LeBron certainly does.

[Doranku]

Yeah, Starks had a Playoff P performance in game 7, but he had 27/8 in game 6 for a Knicks team that only scored 84 points... That's like a 40/12 game in today's NBA. Ewing meanwhile went 6-20 in a 2 point loss. :(

[Carbine]

If Ewing shot 42 TS instead of 39 he scores what, 1 more PPG?

That's a questionable stand to take saying that small of a difference in TS makes a team win a title vs not winning a title. That screams stat nerd to me.

[RRR3]

Yeah, Starks had a Playoff P performance in game 7, but he had 27/8 in game 6 for a Knicks team that only scored 84 points... That's like a 40/12 game in today's NBA. Ewing meanwhile went 6-20 in a 2 point loss. :(
According to Tpols Ewing is better than LeBron :lol

[RRR3]

If Ewing shot 42 TS instead of 39 he scores what, 1 more PPG?

That's a questionable stand to take saying that small of a difference in TS makes a team win a title vs not winning a title. That screams stat nerd to me.
He literally only had to hit two more shots to win in game 6. 8-20 would have been enough to win the championship.

[Roundball_Rock]

Otoh, Pippen shot close to that many times despite being wide open and no one guarding him (MJ carried the pressure and defensive attention)

More lies. Anyone can go to YouTube and watch some random games and see how often Pippen was left wide open. Use common sense: if teams were doubling MJ, Pippen wasn't the guy they would leave to do it. This also ignores when Pippen himself got doubled. For instance, in the "flu game" when MJ hit the 3 at the end to give the Bulls the lead (it was 85-85 with 25 seconds left, so the Bulls last possession in theory) he did it being wide open because Pippen, supposedly an inept offensive player a la Rodman or Ben Wallace, got doubled in the post. This was during the most important possession to date in Utah history, mind you.

Spin is one thing but we keep saying outright lies.


If Ewing shot 42 TS instead of 39 he scores what, 1 more PPG?

Use common sense: if he shoots 42% instead of 39% that doesn't mean he shots 42% in every single game. The Knicks were literally one shot away from winning Game 6, for instance. Who cares about 42% or 41% or 45%. The overall point is obvious. You should know since you were clutching your pearls about the importance of playoff efficiency when it came to another player (hint folks, that player was #33--anyone want to guess which #33?). :oldlol:


According to Tpols Ewing is better than LeBron

:lol

[3ball]

More lies. Anyone can go to YouTube and watch some random games and see how often Pippen was left wide open. Use common sense: if teams were doubling MJ, Pippen wasn't the guy they would leave to do it. This also ignores when Pippen himself got doubled. For instance, in the "flu game" when MJ hit the 3 at the end to give the Bulls the lead (it was 85-85 with 25 seconds left, so the Bulls last possession in theory) he dd it being wide open because Pippen got doubled in the post. This was during the most important possession to date in Utah history, mind you.

Spin is one thing but we keep saying outright lies.



Use common sense: if he shoots 42% instead of 39% that doesn't mean he shots 42% in every single game. The Knicks were literally one shot away from winning Game 6, for instance. Who cares about 42% or 41% or 45%. The overall point is obvious. You should know since you were clutching your pearls about the importance of playoff efficiency when it came to another player (hint folks, that player was #33). :oldlol:



:lol

Bruh, you surely didn't watch back then

MJ took defensive attention away from his sidekick more than anyone ever... So Pippen had the easiest 2nd option job and more clean looks than anyone

Kenny Smith said it best - only MJ didn't have a sidekick that commanded a double... That's an enormous shot at Pippen.. and common knowledge

So again, Pippen shot the worst ever when you consider he was a 2nd option that the defense didn't pay attention to.. he shot similar to 94' Ewing many times, except as a 2nd option that wasn't paid attention to

[tpols]

22 ppg on 43% TS :lol Had an oRTG of 84 for the series. Never seen anything close to that low from a superstar in a finals series.

Even in Kobe's disastrous 2004 NBA Finals he produced on 90 ORTG. Below that is incredible. But people just sweep it under the rug.

[Carbine]

You could also use common sense and come to a logical assertion that his theoretical game that pumps up his TS to 42 comes in a game other than game 6.

It could've happened in a game they already won.

[RRR3]

LeBron had a 102 ORTG in the 2011 finals guess he wasn’t that bad by Tpols’ retarded logic.

[Roundball_Rock]

It is interesting how MJ stains are always unwilling to criticize any 90's players except those who played on the Bulls. In some cases they will defend players in defiance of their own logic in the context of Bulls. The agenda is obvious. It is sad: an entire generation of players divided into two simplistic camps, MJ's teammates and players on other teams. The former are all trash (except for 94', when the entire team except Pippen were temporarily awesome) while the latter are all so awesome there isn't a single thing to criticize. Flawless players, except the ones on a 6x champion.

One note: finals scores of playoff games are often slightly misleading. If the game is close the trailing team is going to foul the leading team, thereby (assuming they make their FT's), inflating the final margin. Even with that, Houston's wins were by 7, 4, 2 (to stave off elimination--Starks took a three for the win--if Ewing made one even more basket they could have take a much easier shot), and 6.


LeBron had a 102 ORTG in the 2011 finals guess he wasn’t that bad by Tpols’ retarded logic.

:lol

It is incredibly dumb to tout a 90 oRTG. These are NBA players. There is only so low an oRTG will go. For instance, Ewing was 85 for the 94' finals. Pippen, using the finals MJ stains define him by (not the 5 finals where he was great), was a 106. Dennis Rodman had a 106 oRTG for his playoff career--Ewing 104 (since I am on Ewing's page). I guess Rodman>Ewing as an offensive player using the only metric tpols understands. George is at 88 for the playoffs so far this year. NBA players aren't going to fall to a 42 oRTG, given how the stat is generated.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

ORTG is a team stat, and manipulated as such, yet the same clowns keep repeating it.

By all means though, do you. Just don't let me catch you in a thread I'm posting in. :oldlol: I wont hesitate to point it out, laugh at you, and then explain why you're a damn idiot

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Lowry put up 15PPG last year and Kawhi still won the title. Just get that shooting percentage up.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

LeBron had a 102 ORTG in the 2011 finals guess he wasn’t that bad by Tpols’ retarded logic.

102 hahaha who the hell told you that wasn't bad. Atrocious number for a superstar.

[Roundball_Rock]

ORTG is a team stat, and manipulated as such, yet the same clowns keep repeating it.

By all means though, do you. Just don't let me catch you in a thread I'm posting in. :oldlol: I wont hesitate to point it out, laugh at you, and then explain why you're a damn idiot

Yup--and if you are going to invoke a stat 1) understand it 2) apply it consistently.


Lowry put up 15PPG last year and Kawhi still won the title. Just get that shooting percentage up.

Different team and pre-bubble. Lowry averaged 7 assists so he was contributing to the offense in other ways. Lowry raised the offense's oRTG by 10 in the RS when he was on and 13 in the PO (smaller sample of course in the PO). PG is decreasing the Clippers oRTG in the PO by 13 and only 4 in the RS.

Re the bubble, the Raptors averaged 107 PPG in the playoffs and 112 in the finals. Dallas is putting up 124 PPG this year. The Raptors themselves 126 PPG. 12 of 16 teams are scoring more than the champ Raptors did in 19'. Half the playoff teams are scoring 114 PPG--which is what the Warriors averaged in the PO last season. Four teams are at 124+.

If PG isn't going to score they need him to focus on defense, shoot less (Doc says he should take 20+ shots tonight...), and they need Williams/Morris/Harrell to pick up his slack.

This series is winnable even with PG struggling but this is a 7 seed. What happens down the road, if they even advance?

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Lowry put up 15PPG last year and Kawhi still won the title. Just get that shooting percentage up.

MJ won titles with similar true shooting from Pippen (43-46% in the 93' and 96' Finals, or 98 ECF)

George is currently at 41% but that will end up higher