View Full Version : Jalen Brown wants to go protest
ArbitraryWater
08-26-2020, 07:41 AM
https://twitter.com/FCHWPO/status/1298393674120929281
https://i.gyazo.com/316e9549150cb8c5714425d41efba710.png
Why is this so fcking funny in how sad/stupid these guys are?
imdaman99
08-26-2020, 09:37 AM
You're gonna call someone stupid because of what they believe in? Here in 'murica, we are entitled to our own opinions and beliefs. If every little thing someone in the NBA believes in is gonna trigger you, I suggest you step away from twitter. Be a good boy and only follow the NBA on the court and learn to phase out the black lives matter stuff.
ImKobe
08-26-2020, 10:04 AM
You're gonna call someone stupid because of what they believe in? Here in 'murica, we are entitled to our own opinions and beliefs. If every little thing someone in the NBA believes in is gonna trigger you, I suggest you step away from twitter. Be a good boy and only follow the NBA on the court and learn to phase out the black lives matter stuff.
Agreed, though the NBA is the reason these players have the platform that they do, and their message would likely get out to more people by spreading it in the post-game interview with millions watching vs. doing it on the streets.
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 10:06 AM
https://twitter.com/FCHWPO/status/1298393674120929281
https://i.gyazo.com/316e9549150cb8c5714425d41efba710.png
Why is this so fcking funny in how sad/stupid these guys are?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people who ask questions. As you are the idiot that finds a screwed up situation funny you can ask yourself. Just don't expect an intelligent answer.
Doranku
08-26-2020, 10:08 AM
AuschwitzWaters finding humor in democracy, go figure.
AuschwitzWaters finding humor in democracy, go figure.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
MrFonzworth
08-26-2020, 10:32 AM
OP the snitch once again showing the dimwit he is:applause:
Shogon
08-26-2020, 10:42 AM
Anyone that truly believes deep in their heart that there is some "cop shooting unarmed black man for no justifiable reason" epidemic going around is either very very young or truly hopeless and naive to every day life.
This was posted in the other thread... by Marchesk... this is the most honest and accurate assessment I've ever seen anyone articulate this 'situation'...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1kxRXKstBw
Wally450
08-26-2020, 10:47 AM
Why is this so fcking funny in how sad/stupid OP is?
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 10:48 AM
Anyone that truly believes deep in their heart that there is some "cop shooting unarmed black man for no justifiable reason" epidemic going around is either very very young or truly hopeless and naive to every day life.
I'm not going to just assume the cop is racist, I don't know what they're like in every day life. But this shooting was not justified, Whether the victim survives or not the cop basically used lethal force. Lethal force should only be used when someone is a threat either to the cop or the general public. And for him to be shot 7 times? That's attempted murder. People are going to be pissed. And with the history of racial incidents a lot of black people are going to see racism when an unjustified shooting or assault takes place.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 10:50 AM
I'm not going to just assume the cop is racist, I don't know what they're like in every day life. But this shooting was not justified, Whether the victim survives or not the cop basically used lethal force. Lethal force should only be used when someone is a threat either to the cop or the general public. And for him to be shot 7 times? That's attempted murder. People are going to be pissed. And with the history of racial incidents a lot of black people are going to see racism when an unjustified shooting or assault takes place.
I haven't reviewed this most recent case that thoroughly, but people in the other thread are saying that they had already restrained the guy, the had tasered him and had him on the ground and he was able to get up anyways, and if that's true, it's all justified imo.
Then he goes to his car after they repeatedly gave him commands and were clearly following him with guns out. If their intent was just simply to shoot and murder him, they would have already done it.
He disobeyed, he reached into his car, and he got shot. Is it good? No.
Is that a reality of dealing with the most heavily armed force(the american public) on the planet? Yes.
What would you rather the guy wait for him to pull a gun turn around quickly and shoot? That shit happens in the blink of an eye, man. The shooting wasn't racially motivated.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 10:54 AM
And what's even worse, is that this shit is likely to lead to feedback loops... wherein black guys believe that they're being targeted, so they're more likely to resist and more likely to do something stupid because they're operating from an emotional standpoint rather than a logical one.
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 10:59 AM
I haven't reviewed this most recent case that thoroughly, but people in the other thread are saying that they had already restrained the guy, the had tasered him and had him on the ground and he was able to get up anyways, and if that's true, it's all justified imo.
Then he goes to his car after they repeatedly gave him commands and were clearly following him with guns out. If their intent was just simply to shoot and murder him, they would have already done it.
He disobeyed, he reached into his car, and he got shot. Is it good? No.
Is that a reality of dealing with the most heavily armed force(the american public) on the planet? Yes.
What would you rather the guy wait for him to pull a gun turn around quickly and shoot? That shit happens in the blink of an eye, man. The shooting wasn't racially motivated.
So (nonviolently) resisting arrest merits getting shot? No, I don't agree with that standard and if that cop did not see him brandishing a firearm he should not be shooting to kill. To go further, he was not just shot once, he was shot 7 times. That most definitely crosses the line from trying to defend oneself to attempted murder. You shoot someone 7 times you are trying to kill them. And if you couldn't help yourself because it's a panicked reaction? Then you shouldn't be a cop.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 11:00 AM
So (nonviolently) resisting arrest merits getting shot? No, I don't agree with that standard and if that cop did not see him brandishing a firearm he should not be shooting to kill. To go further, he was not just shot once, he was shot 7 times. That most definitely crosses the line from trying to defend oneself to attempted murder. You shoot someone 7 times you are trying to kill them. And if you couldn't help yourself because it's a panicked reaction? Then you shouldn't be a cop.
Alright, so you want some more psychopathic cops, because that's what it would take to get a police force that never panics. And again, ALL IT TAKES IS THE BLINK OF AN EYE for that guy to turn on them with a gun. Are they supposed to wait to get shot or?
Fight or flight is a natural human response and they're not allowed to flee, so what do you think is going to happen?
And yes, reaching into your car when you've been instructed by gunpoint to obey... it may not warrant you getting shot, but I don't know why we act surprised that it happens. There are 400 million guns in the USA.
You're detached from reality because of the color of his skin.
tpols
08-26-2020, 11:07 AM
So (nonviolently) resisting arrest merits getting shot? No, I don't agree with that standard and if that cop did not see him brandishing a firearm he should not be shooting to kill. To go further, he was not just shot once, he was shot 7 times. That most definitely crosses the line from trying to defend oneself to attempted murder. You shoot someone 7 times you are trying to kill them. And if you couldn't help yourself because it's a panicked reaction? Then you shouldn't be a cop.
He wrestled with them, got away, and was reaching into the car angrily dude. It was a violent resist with the possibility he was going for a pistol or handgun.
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 11:10 AM
Alright, so you want some more psychopathic cops, because that's what it would take to get a police force that never panics.
Fight or flight is a natural human response and they're not allowed to flee, so what do you think is going to happen?
You're detached from reality because of the color of his skin.If you have the ability to take someone's life and the decision to do so is based on snap judgement? No, you can't be a panicky little bitch, sorry. I disagree with the idea that we'd have to start give badges to psychopath, in fact the few that have been given badges (Derek Chauvin) are probably at the root of this problem. It does require a higher level of self-control but if your job is to enfirce the law and you are given the higher level of power that cops have then that should be expected.
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 11:11 AM
He wrestled with them, got away, and was reaching into the car angrily dude. It was a violent resist with the possibility he was going for a pistol or handgun.
Show me the handgun and you have a point. We've heard nothing about one so I'm pretty sure you don't.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 11:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g
If you can't accept that this video is objective reality of the dangers police face and that complying with police is important, then we have nothing left to discuss because you will never see this from a non emotional point of view.
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 11:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g
If you can't accept that this video is objective reality of the dangers police face and that complying with police is important, then we have nothing left to discuss because you will never see this from a non emotional point of view.He was shot 7 times. Not once or even twice, seven times.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 11:23 AM
He was shot 7 times. Not once or even twice, seven times.
OK, but is the issue with how many times he was shot or the fact that he was shot at all? Because I was under the impression that he shouldn't have been shot at all and that it's highly shocking that he was shot in the first place.
If you re-watch the video, even after multiple bullets, the guy keeps going. It's hard to tell exactly when he stops resisting because he is unable to due to how many bullets are in him but I can tell you after the first two shots, the guy is still resisting.
Lebron23
08-26-2020, 11:24 AM
He needs to focus on defeating the Toronto Raptors in the second round of the playoffs.
CelticBaller
08-26-2020, 11:25 AM
AuschwitzWaters finding humor in democracy, go figure.
:roll:
tpols
08-26-2020, 11:32 AM
Show me the handgun and you have a point. We've heard nothing about one so I'm pretty sure you don't.
Doesn't matter. A violent felon that was being served a warrant running away, disobeying orders and reaching all about his vehicle is going to get shot. You dont have time to know if he has one and make a decision because by the time you see it, you're shot yourself. You live in a fantasy land.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 11:34 AM
Doesn't matter. A violent felon that was being served a warrant running away, disobeying orders and reaching all about his vehicle is going to get shot. You dont have time to know if he has one and make a decision because by the time you see it, you're shot yourself. You live in a fantasy land.
He's evaluating this from an emotional point of view. I'm pretty sure he understands perfectly. RMWG isn't a stupid guy. This isn't about rationality and reason.
ArbitraryWater
08-26-2020, 11:42 AM
You're gonna call someone stupid because of what they believe in? Here in 'murica, we are entitled to our own opinions and beliefs. If every little thing someone in the NBA believes in is gonna trigger you, I suggest you step away from twitter. Be a good boy and only follow the NBA on the court and learn to phase out the black lives matter stuff.
You really gonna get triggered just to defend a man that has been misled with the masses?
ArbitraryWater
08-26-2020, 11:43 AM
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people who ask questions. As you are the idiot that finds a screwed up situation funny you can ask yourself. Just don't expect an intelligent answer.
The screwed up situation that millions of people have been misled to believe a narrative that isn‘t true?
And now feel good vouching for a cause/movement which projects more violence than what they are protesting against?
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 11:45 AM
OK, but is the issue with how many times he was shot or the fact that he was shot at all? Because I was under the impression that he shouldn't have been shot at all and that it's highly shocking that he was shot in the first place.For me the issue is both. I absolutely do not agree with shooting someone that is not a danger. Now if we assume that the cop thought he was in danger (which is not a safe assumption, could well have been that the cop was just pissed at this dude that just allegedly outmuscled his whole squadron) the cop should at the least stop shooting when it becomes evident that the guy is not a threat. And it was never even established that Blake was a threat to begin with.
If you re-watch the video, even after multiple bullets, the guy keeps going. It's hard to tell exactly when he stops resisting because he is unable to due to how many bullets are in him but I can tell you after the first two shots, the guy is still resisting.He keeps trying to escape while getting shot? He should have complied initially but seeing what happened to him it's inarguable that he was correct to fear for his life.
Shogon
08-26-2020, 11:47 AM
For me the issue is both. I absolutely do not agree with shooting someone that is not a danger. Now if we assume that the cop thought he was in danger (which is not a safe assumption, could well have been that the cop was just pissed at this dude that just allegedly outmuscled his whole squadron) the cop should at the least stop shooting when it becomes evident that the guy is not a threat. And it was never even established that Blake was a threat to begin with.
He keeps trying to escape while getting shot? He should have complied initially but seeing what happened to him it's inarguable that he was correct to fear for his life.
But how many examples do we have of black guys calmly complying with police and ending up getting shot? I mean sure it DOES happen, but your chances of getting struck by lighting are better than that.
The media has literally infected people's brains.
50 people die annually in the US from lightning strikes... hundreds more are injured. Know how many people I know IRL that were struck by lightning? Zero. Now realize that your chances of complying with police and dying anyways are less than even getting struck by lightning, never mind dying from a lightning bolt. It's a non issue that has been lied about and made an issue by the media.
Gohan
08-26-2020, 11:48 AM
Snitches gonna be snitches so you can’t blame autistic waters
Real Men Wear Green
08-26-2020, 11:49 AM
Doesn't matter. A violent felon that was being served a warrant running away, disobeying orders and reaching all about his vehicle is going to get shot. You dont have time to know if he has one and make a decision because by the time you see it, you're shot yourself. You live in a fantasy land.Where did you hear he was being served a warrant? Because I've heard that reported by no one. There was an outstanding warrant but the cops were there to deal with a domestic disturbance that we haven't heard so far who was the cause of, with a claim that Blake was trying to break it up.
PP34Deuce
08-26-2020, 11:51 AM
Pretty sure most Cops are trained to shoot. A cop shooting 7 times is one of the bigger issues. The bigger issue I see on ISH is how desensitized and cold a lot of people that love black athletes on here are. I know ISH has a lot of an indian and asian community. Minorities who like to use their minority card but at the same time like to distance themselves from black and brown relations. That's real shit.
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