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999Guy
08-26-2020, 08:16 PM
Trump supporters, do you not realize we have thousands of years history proving when you go the fascist route, EVERYBODY gets ****ed. No one has pulled off fascism. If Hitler failed, it will probably never ever ****ing work ever. That was the big shot. And I’m not talking racially, even though you idiots are obviously racially motivated.

But just in essence, what you support only causes instability and real, actual human pain for everybody.

You are seeing it this very second with this horrendous handling of the coronavirus you people have enabled by supporting this dunce. This historical dunce that won’t even have the reverence of a Hitler or a Reagan, or ANYBODY.

Trump is a psychologically simple, low level male. You’d have to literally think like a woman and look at his possessions to him as any value.

Trump, trumpism, conservative horeshit, whatever you wanna call it, really doesn’t breed impressive individuals.

They make decisions born out of non-righteous areas of thought. Hate, racism, greed, selfishness.

It’s genuinely hard to be a compelling person with the worst traits of being this intelligent chimp(that we all are) leading you.


All this is to say, once Republicans successfully run this dictator election, destroy all the defense mechanisms of a democracy, for what amounts to $20 more worth of greed, and 30 more seconds worth of power. Only god knows what will come of the result.

And oh trust me it’ll be in our lifetimes. Easily. Very easily.

warriorfan
08-26-2020, 08:20 PM
Trump supporters, do you not realize we have thousands of years history proving when you go the fascist route, EVERYBODY gets ****ed. No one has pulled off fascism. If Hitler failed, it will probably never ever ****ing work ever. That was the big shot. And I’m not talking racially, even though you idiots are obviously racially motivated.

But just in essence, what you support only causes instability and real, actual human pain for everybody.

You are seeing it this very second with this horrendous handling of the coronavirus you people have enabled by supporting this dunce. This dunce that won’t even have the historical dunce that won’t even have the reverence of a Hitler or a Reagan, or ANYBODY.

Trump is a psychologically simple, low level male. You’d have to literally think like a woman and look at his possessions to him as any value.

Trump, trump isn’t, conservative horeshit, really doesn’t breed impressive individuals.

They make decisions born out of non-righteous areas of thought. Hate, racism, greed, selfishness.

It’s genuinely hard to be a compelling person with the worst traits of being this intelligent chimp(that we all are) leading you.


All this is to say, once Republicans successfully run this dictator election, destroy all the defense mechanisms of a democracy, for what amounts to $20 more worth of greed, and 30 more seconds worth of power. Only god knows what will come of the result.

And oh trust me it’ll be in our lifetimes. Easily. Very easily.

In summary

OMB.

RRR3
08-26-2020, 08:26 PM
Trump isn’t a fascist dictator. Liberals love to overuse those words. It’s possible he could become one, but I doubt it.

Stanley Kobrick
08-26-2020, 08:31 PM
high iq post 999guy, very interesting

FKAri
08-26-2020, 08:45 PM
We're nowhere near fascism. Though we're headed towards if not already in a kind of oligarchy. If we had fascism then Trump or Obama would've actually been able to do something about our foreign policy. But they didn't and they couldn't. Certain things are tacitly outside a President's purview. Not very fascist is it?

Norcaliblunt
08-26-2020, 09:06 PM
What is fascism?

Hittin_Shots
08-26-2020, 11:26 PM
So OP, those guys are fascist because their opinions are opposed to yours? Do you think that Trump supporters opinions should be suppressed for the good of the nation?

Nanners
08-26-2020, 11:59 PM
So OP, those guys are fascist because their opinions are opposed to yours? Do you think that Trump supporters opinions should be suppressed for the good of the nation?

yes. to stop fascism we must suppress everyone who does not agree with my political views

Patrick Chewing
08-27-2020, 12:22 AM
I'm running for office so I can become a fascist dictator and rid the United States of idiots like OP.

bobopenguin
08-27-2020, 12:40 AM
hi 999guy, thank you for sharing such an sightful post, we are very interested to hear more from u, but not ur inspiration speed, but more of ur personal life stories.

please tell us more about urself.

Cleverness
08-27-2020, 01:39 AM
Never in human history has authoritarianism selectively hurt groups of people.


lol



You are seeing it this very second with this horrendous handling of the coronavirus you people have enabled by supporting this dunce.

you're right that the handling has been horrendous, but you seem to have no clue why

hateraid
08-27-2020, 01:49 AM
OP is exactly why conversations cannot be had and figure a common ground. I don't think he sees we are repeating a pattern that happened in 1968 and Trump had nothing to do with anything that happened that year. We're ****ed because we divide eachother. Not because of a person. OP is the reason a silent majority exists. Because people are turned off by telling them how to think.
I'm Filipino. Check out my ancestors leader. You don't follow him, he kills you. Tell me if you would rather live there

warriorfan
08-27-2020, 09:45 AM
hi 999guy, thank you for sharing such an sightful post, we are very interested to hear more from u, but not ur inspiration speed, but more of ur personal life stories.

please tell us more about urself.

:roll: :roll:

imdaman99
08-27-2020, 10:11 AM
Man I dunno about you but I'm tired of blaming everything on Trump. There are deep rooted problems that no one knows how to fix.

RRR3
08-27-2020, 10:14 AM
Man I dunno about you but I'm tired of blaming everything on Trump. There are deep rooted problems that no one knows how to fix.
Democrats blame Trump so they don’t have to address the real causes of the problems.

Nanners
08-27-2020, 10:24 AM
Democrats blame Trump so they don’t have to address the real causes of the problems.

amen

the democrats need to take a long and hard look in the mirror , because they are the primary reason Trump is president today. If Obama had followed through on a single one of his promises during his 8 years in office - (like universal healthcare or ending the wars), Hillary probably would have coasted to a victory... but Obama decided to support the banks instead of the american people, giving the banks a bailout to fill the budget hole created by the system, while also allowing the banks to foreclose on millions of american families.

RRR3
08-27-2020, 10:27 AM
amen

the democrats need to take a long and hard look in the mirror , because they are the primary reason Trump is president today. If Obama had followed through on a single one of his promises during his 8 years in office - (like universal healthcare or ending the wars), Hillary probably would have coasted to a victory... but Obama decided to support the banks instead of the american people, giving the banks a bailout to fill the budget hole created by the system, while also allowing the banks to foreclose on millions of american families.
I’ve been telling liberals electing Biden will just lead to a smarter Trump. If Biden wins (unlikely IMO) they are all going to be baffled when Tucker Carlson annihilates Kamala Harris in 2024.

Nanners
08-27-2020, 10:35 AM
I’ve been telling liberals electing Biden will just lead to a smarter Trump. If Biden wins (unlikely IMO) they are all going to be baffled when Tucker Carlson annihilates Kamala Harris in 2024.

:oldlol:

lol, I have been saying literally the exact same thing to anyone willing to listen.

If Trump loses in 2020 (a month or two ago I thought Trump was guaranteed to lose, now it seems like his chances of winning are 50/50 and improving daily), Tucker is the guy I would bet becomes the republican candidate in 2024... and after Tucker demolishes Kamala or whatever spineless dem stands between him and the presidency, his policies will make Trump look like a calm and thoughtful moderate by comparison.

RRR3
08-27-2020, 10:38 AM
:oldlol:

lol, I have been saying literally the exact same thing to anyone willing to listen.

If Trump loses in 2020 (a month or two ago I thought Trump was guaranteed to lose, now it seems like his chances of winning are 50/50 and improving daily), Tucker is the guy I would bet becomes the republican candidate in 2024... and after Tucker demolishes Kamala or whatever spineless dem stands between him and the presidency, his policies will make Trump look like a calm and thoughtful moderate by comparison.
And I guarantee you the liberals will then lionize Trump the way they did Bush.

“Trump was bad but at least he had some common decency! He never would have done what President Carlson is doing!”-liberals in 2025

Charlie Sheen
08-27-2020, 10:40 AM
amen

the democrats need to take a long and hard look in the mirror , because they are the primary reason Trump is president today. If Obama had followed through on a single one of his promises during his 8 years in office - (like universal healthcare or ending the wars), Hillary probably would have coasted to a victory... but Obama decided to support the banks instead of the american people, giving the banks a bailout to fill the budget hole created by the system, while also allowing the banks to foreclose on millions of american families.

Democrats can't follow through on their idealistic promises because they need their voting base to remain dependent on them every election cycle. This is why we end up with half measures like the ACA.

Shogon
08-27-2020, 10:44 AM
Trump is definitely not a conservative. The only thing truly conservative about him is his war stance of mostly being hands off. Well, conservatives used to be that... it's hard to tell anymore. It's all just a shit show. Didn't G.W. run on a non interventionist policy? So much for that. I was just a kid so I don't really remember.

Trump just knows how to press emotional buttons to get reactions out of people to generate buzz and further his support that make it seem like he's a right winger.

Look at his financial policy? He's spending like crazy. Like never before. Again, not conservative. At least, not traditionally conservative. The politicians are all just a shit show now. They really just are.

Nanners
08-27-2020, 11:03 AM
Democrats can't follow through on their idealistic promises because they need their voting base to remain dependent on them every election cycle. This is why we end up with half measures like the ACA.

Thats def part of the story... but IMO the real reason we end up with half measures like the ACA is because corporate interests and billionaires control the right wing of the american political system also control the left wing. The ACA was originally created for Mitt Romneys administration when he was gov of mass, and it was created by health insurance lobbyists within the heritage foundation. Democrats embraced this right wing health plan because their donors told them to (that said, they probably would have supported the legislation without their donors orders, simply out of stupidity alone)

The ACA has been a monumental success for the private health insurance and pharma industries. United Health (the biggest private health insurer in the nation) has seen their stock grow by over 800% in the 10 years since ACA was passed. Thanks Obama...

FKAri
08-27-2020, 02:07 PM
amen

the democrats need to take a long and hard look in the mirror , because they are the primary reason Trump is president today. If Obama had followed through on a single one of his promises during his 8 years in office - (like universal healthcare or ending the wars), Hillary probably would have coasted to a victory... but Obama decided to support the banks instead of the american people, giving the banks a bailout to fill the budget hole created by the system, while also allowing the banks to foreclose on millions of american families.

I'm amazed as far as Obama managed to get with Universal Healthcare. It was quite commendable. He faced such strong opposition to it. We're not getting a non-botched version of it anytime soon.

As for the foreign wars: It's part of a giant system that no president can really stop. Once Obama realized he couldn't do much he decided to just not call a war, a war and people patted his back for a job well done. Trump hasn't done anything about it either. They're not going to let an elected civilian screw up decades of their hard work. It's also a very complicated issue.

Nanners
08-27-2020, 02:47 PM
I'm amazed as far as Obama managed to get with Universal Healthcare. It was quite commendable. He faced such strong opposition to it. We're not getting a non-botched version of it anytime soon.

As for the foreign wars: It's part of a giant system that no president can really stop. Once Obama realized he couldn't do much he decided to just not call a war, a war and people patted his back for a job well done. Trump hasn't done anything about it either. They're not going to let an elected civilian screw up decades of their hard work. It's also a very complicated issue.

How low is the bar for you to be amazed by something? Are you seriously impressed by how far Obama got on Universal Healthcare? LOL... when Obama came in the dems had control of the presidency, the house and the senate, they could have passed any legislation they wanted, and yet universal healthcare never got any further than empty platitudes - instead they abandoned it and passed Mitt Romneys plan for enriching private insurance companies... how the hell is any of that remotely commendable?

Obama never even pretended that he was trying to end our wars, when he took office we were fighting wars in 2 countries, when he left office we were fighting wars in 7 countries. If you want to know about Obamas views on war, all you have to do is look at his decision to curate a "nobel peace drone kill list" where every day he personally selected the supposed terrorists that were to be targeted for assassination by drone bomb... thats some sociopath shit.

FKAri
08-27-2020, 04:09 PM
How low is the bar for you to be amazed by something? Are you seriously impressed by how far Obama got on Universal Healthcare? LOL... when Obama came in the dems had control of the presidency, the house and the senate, they could have passed any legislation they wanted, and yet universal healthcare never got any further than empty platitudes - instead they abandoned it and passed Mitt Romneys plan for enriching private insurance companies... how the hell is any of that remotely commendable?
Because it's a lot harder to do than you're making it out to be.

Obama never even pretended that he was trying to end our wars, when he took office we were fighting wars in 2 countries, when he left office we were fighting wars in 7 countries. If you want to know about Obamas views on war, all you have to do is look at his decision to curate a "nobel peace drone kill list" where every day he personally selected the supposed terrorists that were to be targeted for assassination by drone bomb... thats some sociopath shit.
We were still in the same countries. If you're going to count all military operations including drone strikes as wars then we were in more than 2 or even 7 countries BEFORE he took office. The ongoing goal of the military has been to risk less and less lives to exert military force. That way they need less public support and can carry on doing operations, even in the black. One of the biggest leaps in this transition happened in the Obama years. It was technologically inevitable. A civilian president can't control the military industrial complex. He's told to "trust the generals". Could Obama have gone about it a different way? We don't really know. Maybe history will be able to tell us in a few decades. I agree with you that it seems terrifying and sociopathic but without tangible alternatives there's nothing to say on the matter.

Nanners
08-27-2020, 06:21 PM
Because it's a lot harder to do than you're making it out to be.

What a pathetic excuse. If passing universal healthcare when your party controls the executive branch and both houses of congress is too hard, then maybe Obama shouldnt have promised it during his campaign.

Who cares if it would have been hard, achieving anything worthwhile in politics is hard... but that doesnt mean we should just settle for garbage legislation and never pursue anything worthwhile.

Like I said, the dems controlled all 3 branches of govt... if they really wanted to, they could have forced through any piece of legislation... but instead of even attempting to pass healthcare for the people, they settled for healthcare for the corporations.


We were still in the same countries. If you're going to count all military operations including drone strikes as wars then we were in more than 2 or even 7 countries BEFORE he took office. The ongoing goal of the military has been to risk less and less lives to exert military force. That way they need less public support and can carry on doing operations, even in the black. One of the biggest leaps in this transition happened in the Obama years. It was technologically inevitable. A civilian president can't control the military industrial complex. He's told to "trust the generals". Could Obama have gone about it a different way? We don't really know. Maybe history will be able to tell us in a few decades. I agree with you that it seems terrifying and sociopathic but without tangible alternatives there's nothing to say on the matter.

Name the 7+ countries that we were supposedly already drone striking before Obama took office

Of course Obama could have gone about it a different way. Nobody forced him to get involved in Libya, or Syria, or Yemen, or Somalia... he chose to do all of those things. Considering that Trump has managed to avoid starting any new wars (despite the fact that his cabinet and the mainstream media have attempted to egg him into wars on multiple occasions), Obama has no excuses whatsoever.

RRR3
08-27-2020, 08:31 PM
What a pathetic excuse. If passing universal healthcare when your party controls the executive branch and both houses of congress is too hard, then maybe Obama shouldnt have promised it during his campaign.

Who cares if it would have been hard, achieving anything worthwhile in politics is hard... but that doesnt mean we should just settle for garbage legislation and never pursue anything worthwhile.

Like I said, the dems controlled all 3 branches of govt... if they really wanted to, they could have forced through any piece of legislation... but instead of even attempting to pass healthcare for the people, they settled for healthcare for the corporations.



Name the 7+ countries that we were supposedly already drone striking before Obama took office

Of course Obama could have gone about it a different way. Nobody forced him to get involved in Libya, or Syria, or Yemen, or Somalia... he chose to do all of those things. Considering that Trump has managed to avoid starting any new wars (despite the fact that his cabinet and the mainstream media have attempted to egg him into wars on multiple occasions), Obama has no excuses whatsoever.
:applause:

DoctorP
08-27-2020, 08:46 PM
Calling Trump a fascst disctator is overrating Trump. He's a nationalist without a doubt but is still abiding under the constitution and his ass will be out in November...maybe

FKAri
08-27-2020, 09:02 PM
What a pathetic excuse. If passing universal healthcare when your party controls the executive branch and both houses of congress is too hard, then maybe Obama shouldnt have promised it during his campaign.

Who cares if it would have been hard, achieving anything worthwhile in politics is hard... but that doesnt mean we should just settle for garbage legislation and never pursue anything worthwhile.

Like I said, the dems controlled all 3 branches of govt... if they really wanted to, they could have forced through any piece of legislation... but instead of even attempting to pass healthcare for the people, they settled for healthcare for the corporations.



Name the 7+ countries that we were supposedly already drone striking before Obama took office

Of course Obama could have gone about it a different way. Nobody forced him to get involved in Libya, or Syria, or Yemen, or Somalia... he chose to do all of those things. Considering that Trump has managed to avoid starting any new wars (despite the fact that his cabinet and the mainstream media have attempted to egg him into wars on multiple occasions), Obama has no excuses whatsoever.Long story short with the healthcare thing: He should've pursued it earlier in his presidency when he had leverage but he prioritized handling the wars which didn't accomplish much.

Also, why are you limiting military ops to drone striking? We've been doing a lot of other terrible things for a very long time in a lot of different places. The only difference is that a lot of early drone strikes were botched to the extent that they made papers. We even crashed a few. Not good PR. Obama's fault I guess. The tech has improved quite a bit now but it's still been business as usual under Trump. As it will continue to be no matter who's in office come 2021. The amount of political will needed to even come close to doing anything about it doesn't seem possible at the moment.

Hittin_Shots
08-27-2020, 10:39 PM
Calling Trump a fascst disctator is overrating Trump. He's a nationalist without a doubt but is still abiding under the constitution and his ass will be out in November...maybe

Hopefully not, cz then Biden would be in there.