The winds may be shifting

[Nanners]

I think some democrat politicians might finally be starting to realize that the riots/looting they have been allowing for ~3 months and the draconian and unamerican covid lockdowns they have been enforcing for ~6 months are hurting their chances of re-election.

Today in Portland, our useless cuck of a mayor Ted Wheeler gave a statement saying that he "has not been focusing enough on the two most important issues facing Portland - ending the nightly violence and the city's economic recovery". Judging from what I have seen on the livestreams tonight, it looks like in Portland the police response to the protests has been much more swift and decisive tonight than at any other night in the past ~90 days.

Perhaps Ted saw what Don Lemon (the second dumbest pundit on CNN after Fredo the covid faker) said about the protests last night

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513742-cnns-lemon-warns-of-democratic-blind-spot-on-riots-it-shows-up-in-the-polling


“It’s showing up in the polling. It’s showing up in focus groups. It is the only thing right now that is sticking,” Lemon said ahead of "CNN Tonight" on Tuesday. “The riots and the protests have become indistinguishable."

“I think this is a blind spot for Democrats. I think Democrats are ignoring this problem or hoping that it will go away, and it’s not going to go away,” he added before arguing the violence needs to be addressed by Biden before the election.

“The problem is not going to be fixed by [Election Day],” said Lemon. “But what they can do, and I think maybe Joe Biden may be afraid to do it … he’s got to address it. He’s got to come out and talk about it.”

“And they’re rioters, not protesters. They’re criminals,” he added.

If a partisan dumbass like Don Lemon is able to see the writing on the wall, I imagine the party of dumbasses he represents cant be too far behind him.

[starface]

ItsMillerTime appreciates the update and will adjust his narrative accordingly.

[Nanners]

ItsMillerTime appreciates the update and will adjust his narrative accordingly.

It will be interesting to see what narrative the dems pivot toward next... if I had to guess I would say they go back to blaming all of our problems (including the riots/looting they facilitated or endorsed, and the covid lockdowns they created and enforced) on vlad and the russians

[JohnnySic]

Really? The Dems are just figuring that out now? LOL.

[Nanners]

Really? The Dems are just figuring that out now? LOL.

well yeah... considering they are currently repeating virtually every single one of the mistakes that Hillary made in 2016, they clearly arent fast learners :oldlol:

[Shogon]

well yeah... considering they are currently repeating virtually every single one of the mistakes that Hillary made in 2016, they clearly arent fast learners :oldlol:

I refuse to believe that they’re all stupid and that every single person advising them is also stupid.

I just can’t fathom that world...

I think they’re trying to lose... at least the presidency. Surely, right?

[Nanners]

I refuse to believe that they’re all stupid and that every single person advising them is also stupid.

I just can’t fathom that world...

I think they’re trying to lose... at least the presidency. Surely, right?

TBH I have been wondering the same thing lately.

The modern democrat party has been structured with specific purpose of being enormous losers. For the most part, politics in america is just a theatre production..... until very recently, the oligarchs and corporate interests that controlled both halves of our political system believed that the best structure for them was one with weak spineless democrats who were unable/unwilling to even attempt to pass anything resembling a progressive policy, and strong republicans who could easily steamroll the spineless dems in order to pass their pro-oligarch pro-corporate legislation. The democrats were basically the Washington Generals to the republicans Harlem Globetrotters, their purpose was to pretend like the game wasnt pre-decided and rigged while getting dunked on and embarrassed, and for the most part both parties did a great job of maintaining the charade... until recently.

If the dems care about winning, why did they cheat the progressive half of their base (again) in order to promote a washed-up douche with a terrible record and obvious dementia? If the dems care about winning, why did they select a running mate for Biden that is an unpopular ex-prosecutor who crashed and burned during the dem primary (and dropped out months before the Iowa caucus). If the dems care about winning, why have they been supporting or ignoring the looting/riots/lawless in the streets, while also mandating that law abiding gym and salon owners should not be allowed to operate their business? If the dems care about winning, why have they dedicated the past ~3.5 years to daily unhinged meltdowns about disproven conspiracies like Trump/Russia collusion?

[JohnnySic]

I refuse to believe that they’re all stupid and that every single person advising them is also stupid.

I just can’t fathom that world...

I think they’re trying to lose... at least the presidency. Surely, right?

I would think that some elements within BLM and Antifa, and the left in general, want Trump to win. Having Trump in office is better for their Marxist revolution goals.

What good does having Biden in office do for them? He's a Democrat, but he's hardly a radical leftist. They would lose their pretext ("Orange Man Bad!") to run amuck and cause chaos.

[diamenz]

I would think that some elements within BLM and Antifa, and the left in general, want Trump to win. Having Trump in office is better for their Marxist revolution goals.

What good does having Biden in office do for them? He's a Democrat, but he's hardly a radical leftist. They would lose their pretext ("Orange Man Bad!") to run amuck and cause chaos.

they probably figure that at least with biden they'd get their social reform.

[RRR3]

I would think that some elements within BLM and Antifa, and the left in general, want Trump to win. Having Trump in office is better for their Marxist revolution goals.

What good does having Biden in office do for them? He's a Democrat, but he's hardly a radical leftist. They would lose their pretext ("Orange Man Bad!") to run amuck and cause chaos.
Those of us on the actual left believe Trump winning gets us closer to a progressive than Biden winning, yes. Progressives are about the bare minimum for me at this point though. Of course I’m a radical socialist :lol

[Nanners]

they probably figure that at least with biden they'd get their social reform.

lol

how dumb does a person have to be in order to believe that the guy who wrote the 1994 crime bill (the primary reason for the mass incarceration of blacks we see today), in addition to other progressive legislation like the ****ing patriot act, has any interest in giving the people the social/economic reforms they desire?

[RRR3]

lol

how dumb does a person have to be in order to believe that the guy who wrote the 1994 crime bill (the primary reason for the mass incarceration of blacks we see today), in addition to other progressive legislation like the ****ing patriot act, has any interest in giving the people the social/economic reforms they desire?
One could easily argue they have a better chance at criminal justice reform with Trump (he signed the first step act).

[JohnnySic]

lol

how dumb does a person have to be in order to believe that the guy who wrote the 1994 crime bill (the primary reason for the mass incarceration of blacks we see today), in addition to other progressive legislation like the ****ing patriot act, has any interest in giving the people the social/economic reforms they desire?

I'm pro-Trump, but Biden getting elected isn't the worst thing. He's basically a Republican with a D next to his name. Could be worse.

[Nanners]

One could easily argue they have a better chance at criminal justice reform with Trump (he signed the first step act).

They'd be right.

[Nanners]

I'm pro-Trump, but Biden getting elected isn't the worst thing. He's basically a Republican with a D next to his name. Could be worse.

No doubt. In some ways I hope that Biden gets elected... because I kinda think its the only way that a Biden presidency is the only way that anti-trump protesters will ever stop trying to burn down buildings in this country

That said, he is a TERRIBLE candidate. How can anyone pick a candidate who is incapable of completeing a coherent sentence? Who would vote for a guy who doesnt even know where he is half the time? The longer Biden is allowed to stay at the head of the party, the more and more of a joke he will become.

[RRR3]

No doubt. In some ways I hope that Biden gets elected... because I kinda think its the only way that a Biden presidency is the only way that anti-trump protesters will ever stop trying to burn down buildings in this counitry
You think Antifa likes Biden? :lol

Obama utilized excessive force against protestors as well, Biden isn’t going to change shit. With Trump, you at least get the chance he’ll do something populist on a whim. He hasn’t really yet, at least not on any big legislation, but Biden doing anything remotely populist absolutely isn’t happening.

[hateraid]

I think some democrat politicians might finally be starting to realize that the riots/looting they have been allowing for ~3 months and the draconian and unamerican covid lockdowns they have been enforcing for ~6 months are hurting their chances of re-election.

Today in Portland, our useless cuck of a mayor Ted Wheeler gave a statement saying that he "has not been focusing enough on the two most important issues facing Portland - ending the nightly violence and the city's economic recovery". Judging from what I have seen on the livestreams tonight, it looks like in Portland the police response to the protests has been much more swift and decisive tonight than at any other night in the past ~90 days.

Perhaps Ted saw what Don Lemon (the second dumbest pundit on CNN after Fredo the covid faker) said about the protests last night

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/513742-cnns-lemon-warns-of-democratic-blind-spot-on-riots-it-shows-up-in-the-polling



If a partisan dumbass like Don Lemon is able to see the writing on the wall, I imagine the party of dumbasses he represents cant be too far behind him.

Good on you for being in the Pacific Northwest and not following in the footsteps of the leftist mentality. I bet it's hard out there

[Nanners]

You think Antifa likes Biden? :lol

Not particularly... but I wouldnt be surprised if the protesters magically evaporate after Trump is replaced by Biden.


Obama utilized excessive force against protestors as well, Biden isn’t going to change shit. With Trump, you at least get the chance he’ll do something populist on a whim. He hasn’t really yet, at least not on any big legislation, but Biden doing anything remotely populist absolutely isn’t happening.

No kidding, and the level of force used by Obamas police as they brutalized the native americans at standing rock makes the Portland protest (riot) responses look like a boy scouts event in comparison. If anything, Trump has actually been less violent against protesters than Obama was... he could have sent feds and national guard into a lot of states in the name of ending riots and restoring order, but instead of forcing himself into any of the conflicts, he has been waiting on the sidelines until the dem govs/mayors finally realize that they need his help if they dont want to get voted out this november.

[Nanners]

Good on you for being in the Pacific Northwest and not following in the footsteps of the leftist mentality. I bet it's hard out there

All things considered its not really hard at all... while there is an enormous number of idiots out here, this region also contains many of the most rational and well-rounded individuals I have ever met.

The only aspect of PNW socialization that Ive had difficulty with lately is when I am the 1 person in a group of ~6 that is suffering from TDS, and I have to sit there and indulge the paranoid delusions of privileged white folks who think that Russia or some other boogeyman is trying to undermine their brave fight for black lives in the whitest city in america.

[Patrick Chewing]

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6773495296/h1674BEBE/goggie-gif-galifianakis-pug

[Nanners]

Further evidence for the shifting wind - Trumps approval rating just hit an all time high

https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/952-the-zogby-poll-new-trump-job-approval-numbers

https://zogbyanalytics.com/images/za082620/trumpapproval082620.png

[TheMan]

Further evidence for the shifting wind - Trumps approval rating just hit an all time high

https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/952-the-zogby-poll-new-trump-job-approval-numbers

https://zogbyanalytics.com/images/za082620/trumpapproval082620.png

So are we believing polls again or what?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

...or just certain ones?

[Long Duck Dong]

2 years ago if you said Nanners and RRR3 would think Trump is the lesser of 2 evils between him and the Dem nominee, they'd declare you certifiably insane.

Makes me almost want to vote for Biden. :oldlol:

Crazy. I blame Patrick Chewing. His mojo on ISH is infecting us all slowly over time

[RRR3]

2 years ago if you said Nanners and RRR3 would think Trump is the lesser of 2 evils between him and the Dem nominee, they'd declare you certifiably insane.

Makes me almost want to vote for Biden. :oldlol:

Crazy. I blame Patrick Chewing. His mojo on ISH is infecting us all slowly over time
I was a dumb liberal with TDS two years ago to be fair. Now I’m a socialist. All I know is Biden winning sets back the progressive movement and Trump winning doesn’t :confusedshrug: Libs really are convincing themselves Biden will fix anything is comical.

[Patrick Chewing]

2 years ago if you said Nanners and RRR3 would think Trump is the lesser of 2 evils between him and the Dem nominee, they'd declare you certifiably insane.

Makes me almost want to vote for Biden. :oldlol:

Crazy. I blame Patrick Chewing. His mojo on ISH is infecting us all slowly over time

https://media1.giphy.com/media/67uD5vaqxsiAYrL13f/200.gif


My job here is done. This is my last post. God Bless you all!

[RRR3]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/67uD5vaqxsiAYrL13f/200.gif


My job here is done. This is my last post. God Bless you all!
See you tomorrow.

[Patrick Chewing]

See you tomorrow.

No I’m serious man.

[TheMan]

see you later tonight

fify

[DoctorP]

No I’m serious man.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Ck1Pib39Dl5TSzFB3S/200_d.gif

[Nanners]

2 years ago if you said Nanners and RRR3 would think Trump is the lesser of 2 evils between him and the Dem nominee, they'd declare you certifiably insane.

Makes me almost want to vote for Biden. :oldlol:

Crazy. I blame Patrick Chewing. His mojo on ISH is infecting us all slowly over time

bro i voted for trump in 2016

[FKAri]

I refuse to believe that they’re all stupid and that every single person advising them is also stupid.

I just can’t fathom that world...

I think they’re trying to lose... at least the presidency. Surely, right?

It's not that they're stupid. They're just sticking the course. They can't turn back now with elections so close even if they know they've made a mistake. It's true for both parties.

[Shogon]

It's not that they're stupid. They're just sticking the course. They can't turn back now with elections so close even if they know they've made a mistake. It's true for both parties.

There's no way that they didn't know 12 months ago that the guy was bordering on full blow dementia. There's no way they didn't know about his racist background. There's no way they didn't know that he didn't stand for anything except himself. They could have picked a better, more coherent establishment candidate. They are out there.

0% chance the machine didn't know.

If you're telling me they all missed it, then I have no hope for Washington. But I don't for a second believe that everyone missed it.

Further, Khamala? Really? Biden had multiple female minority candidates that were far more likeable and would have done a better job boosting his campaign.

Something is amiss here. I don't know what it is, but none of it makes sense.

[warriorfan]

There's no way that they didn't know 12 months ago that the guy was bordering on full blow dementia. There's no way they didn't know about his racist background. There's no way they didn't know that he didn't stand for anything except himself. They could have picked a better, more coherent establishment candidate. They are out there.

0% chance the machine didn't know.

If you're telling me they all missed it, then I have no hope for Washington. But I don't for a second believe that everyone missed it.

Further, Khamala? Really? Biden had multiple female minority candidates that were far more likeable and would have done a better job boosting his campaign.

Something is amiss here. I don't know what it is, but none of it makes sense.

He is gonna be their George Bush. Stand there semi coherently as everyone else pulls the strings.

[Shogon]

He is gonna be their George Bush. Stand there semi coherently as everyone else pulls the strings.

Of course, that's undeniably true as to how it would play out but... I mean, if that really is the entirety of the strategy, they are REALLY banking on OMB being the prevailing sentiment at the vote. I dunno, man. It's all just weird.

[starface]

There's no way that they didn't know 12 months ago that the guy was bordering on full blow dementia. There's no way they didn't know about his racist background. There's no way they didn't know that he didn't stand for anything except himself. They could have picked a better, more coherent establishment candidate. They are out there.

0% chance the machine didn't know.

If you're telling me they all missed it, then I have no hope for Washington. But I don't for a second believe that everyone missed it.

Further, Khamala? Really? Biden had multiple female minority candidates that were far more likeable and would have done a better job boosting his campaign.

Something is amiss here. I don't know what it is, but none of it makes sense.


I do often wonder if the political decision makers behind the scenes attempt to steer the country toward republican or democrat in a given cycle, by purposely promoting banal opposition candidates to the forefront.

The primaries are almost entirely about exposure, particularly before the digital age. You could never ever get a bunch of people voting for a Rand Paul or an Andrew Yang bc the media simply wont give them coverage. It would be absolutely impossible to realistically run for President without being selected as a candidate by the corporate media.

So yeah, depending on what the agenda is, sometimes they want a Republican to push certain things thru and sometimes they want a Democrat. They want stability but it still has to shift periodically. After 12 years of Republican control, a super charismatic guy like Bill Clinton emerged. Coincidence? Maybe. And the best Republicans could do in 96 was Bob Dole?? Seems hard to believe. Rather they just wanted to stay the course with a Dem in charge for 8 years. Then Dubya 8 years, then Barry 8 years. Sure incumbents have a natural advantage, but neither party has been electing particularly strong opponents for Presidents running for second terms.

It does sometimes seem calculated.

[warriorfan]

I do often wonder if the political decision makers behind the scenes attempt to steer the country toward republican or democrat in a given cycle, by purposely promoting banal opposition candidates to the forefront.

The primaries are almost entirely about exposure, particularly before the digital age. You could never ever get a bunch of people voting for a Rand Paul or an Andrew Yang bc the media simply wont give them coverage. It would be absolutely impossible to realistically run for President without being selected as a candidate by the corporate media.

So yeah, depending on what the agenda is, sometimes they want a Republican to push certain things thru and sometimes they want a Democrat. They want stability but it still has to shift periodically. After 12 years of Republican control, a super charismatic guy like Bill Clinton emerged. Coincidence? Maybe. And the best Republicans could do in 96 was Bob Dole?? Seems hard to believe. Rather they just wanted to stay the course with a Dem in charge for 8 years. Then Dubya 8 years, then Barry 8 years. Sure incumbents have a natural advantage, but neither party has been electing particularly strong opponents for Presidents running for second terms.

It does sometimes seem calculated.

It’s a smart strategy to switch it up. If they did the same bullshit with one party for a 40 year stretch people would catch on, wonder how this party wins every time, want immediate change. Then when you finally change parties and they get the same shit after waiting 40 years they will realize its a scam. This way they can pass it off back and forth and fake some sort of competition and parity. Fake a never ending struggle between two parties, each one identifying themselves as good vs evil. Go one step forward two steps back slowly while trading back and forth. Then you get to where we are today.


Of course, that's undeniably true as to how it would play out but... I mean, if that really is the entirety of the strategy, they are REALLY banking on OMB being the prevailing sentiment at the vote. I dunno, man. It's all just weird.

It’s very weird.

[Long Duck Dong]

bro i voted for trump in 2016

Damn. Nothing makes sense anymore. :oldlol:

I knew you were a Bernie Bro. I didn't realize you went MAGA if you couldn't get Bernie in 16

[Nanners]

Damn. Nothing makes sense anymore. :oldlol:

I knew you were a Bernie Bro. I didn't realize you went MAGA if you couldn't get Bernie in 16

hillary was the worst candidate of all time, and she cheated my boy bernie... no way was i going to vote for her.

im probably done with bernie now too, hard to support a guy who is so spineless that he let his party cheat him twice and then endorsed the person who cheated him both times.

yeah nothing makes sense... but it does feel like trump is the president america deserves

[Overdrive]

I was a dumb liberal with TDS two years ago to be fair. Now I’m a socialist. All I know is Biden winning sets back the progressive movement and Trump winning doesn’t :confusedshrug: Libs really are convincing themselves Biden will fix anything is comical.

I suggest you should visit eastern europe. While I also think liberals are fake leftist wannabes socialism destroyed whole countries. Actually half a continent.

While it's theoretically a great concept it just makes everyone poor except the ruling class. Yes, there are still classes in socialism. Someone has to rule. That's human nature.

[coin24]

If the idiots in the states vote Biden in you deserve what you get:lol

Do these dumb bastards really think police shootings will stop or that they'll actually get "free" Medicare or college?:roll::roll:

The party is blatantly telling you their only policy is orange man bad, get trump out of there.