Playoffs Series wins vs 50 win teams: Kobe vs Lebron

[Nike D'Antoni]

Kobe Bryant playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams

1997-98 Seattle SuperSonics Record: 61-21
1999-00 Phoenix Suns Record: 53-29
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 59-23
1999-00 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2000-01 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 50-32
2000-01 Sacramento Kings Record: 55-27
2000-01 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers Record: 56-26
2001-02 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2001-02 Sacramento Kings Record: 61-21
2001-02 New Jersey Nets Record: 52-30
2002-03 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 51-31
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs Record: 57-25
2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 58-24
2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

total = 24 playoff series victories



Lebron James playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams


2006-07 Detroit Pistons record: 53-29
2010-11 Boston Celtics Record: 56-26
2010-11 Chicago Bulls Record: 62-20
2012-13 Indiana Pacers Record: 50-32
2012-13 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58–24
2013-14 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2014-15 Chicago Bulls Record: 50-32
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks Record: 60-22
2015-16 Toronto Raptors Record: 56–26
2015-16 Golden State Warriors Record: 73-9
2016-17 Toronto Raptors Record: 51–31
2016-17 Boston Celtics Record: 53–29
2017-18 Toronto Raptors Record: 59–23
2017-18 Boston Celtics Record: 55–27



total = 14 playoff series victories

[scuzzy]

Kobe vs Lebron: 6-16



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[NBAGOAT]

kobe's faced better but you have to adjust for a shortened season with 99, 12, and this year

[Nike D'Antoni]

kobe's faced better but you have to adjust for a shortened season with 99, 12, and this year

Kobe Becomes 25. He beat Houston in 1999 , who had record of more than 50 wins if adjusted.

31 - 19, Adjusted to 82 games becomes 51 - 31.


Lebron Becomes 16, as in 2012 he Beat both Indiana - OKC with adjusted records to 82 games.


25 - 16, OR 24 - 14 whatever way you look at it.

[ArbitraryWater]

Kobe Becomes 25. He beat Houston in 1999 , who had record of more than 50 wins if adjusted.

31 - 19, Adjusted to 82 games becomes 51 - 31.


Lebron Becomes 16, as in 2012 he Beat both Indiana - OKC with adjusted records to 82 games.


25 - 16, OR 24 - 14 whatever way you look at it.

there is no other way to look at it than 25-16. you obviously adjust as otherwise rankings lose sense when we just skip one year

[Phoenix]

Good luck OP.

[RRR3]

Pacers were 49-32 in 2013. I forget why they missed a game.

[RRR3]

Kobe averaged 3.7 PPG versus the Sonics in 98, why is he getting credit for that?

[FromDowntown]

Why 50 wins? Why not 60? Why not...

70?

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[FromDowntown]

Or we could just do playoff series wins..

LeBron = 36 (FIRST all time)
Kobe = 33

If we eliminate series where you aren't first option then Kobe misses out on A LOT more credit for "playoff series wins"

Yikes :lol


2 ez

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[Hey Yo]

Kobe didnt win a playoff series as the go to guy until 2008.

LeBron 14
Kobe 10

[TheCorporation]

Kobe didnt win a playoff series as the go to guy until 2008.

LeBron 14
Kobe 10

/thread

[Gray GOAT]

70+ win teams eliminated. LeBron: 1. Rest of the entire league from start to present: 0.

[ImKobe]

Kobe didnt win a playoff series as the go to guy until 2008.

LeBron 14
Kobe 10

Yes, because Kobe never led the teams in ppg in a Playoff series win before 2008.. add on the Kings & Spurs wins in '01, Spurs '02, Wolves '03, Spurs & Wolves in '04 and you still have Kobe at 16 wins against 50+ win teams as the clear-cut #1 option.

Wade was the leader in ppg when the Heat beat the Celtics in '11, we should take that one off from Lebron's side as well.

[RRR3]

Yes, because Kobe never led the teams in ppg in a Playoff series win before 2008.. add on the Kings & Spurs wins in '01, Spurs '02, Wolves '03, Spurs & Wolves in '04 and you still have Kobe at 16 wins against 50+ win teams as the clear-cut #1 option.

Wade was the leader in ppg when the Heat beat the Celtics in '11, we should take that one off from Lebron's side as well.
Why aren’t you counting the teams LeBron beat that would have won 50 games if they played 82 games? #exposed

[Axe]

Pacers were 49-32 in 2013. I forget why they missed a game.
Because of the 2013 boston marathon bombings when the game between the pacers and the celtics was supposed to take place in the td garden

[Shooter]

Kobe didnt win a playoff series as the go to guy until 2008.

LeBron 14
Kobe 10

Bingo, Close it up

[Nike D'Antoni]

If we adjust this year wins. It is 25 - 18.


But I am bumping this thread to mention if we adjust Miami Heat record, they are not 50 win team.

44 - 29 record, adjusted would be 49 - 33.

[kawhileonard2]

Kobe Bryant playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams

1997-98 Seattle SuperSonics Record: 61-21
1999-00 Phoenix Suns Record: 53-29
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 59-23
1999-00 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2000-01 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 50-32
2000-01 Sacramento Kings Record: 55-27
2000-01 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers Record: 56-26
2001-02 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2001-02 Sacramento Kings Record: 61-21
2001-02 New Jersey Nets Record: 52-30
2002-03 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 51-31
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs Record: 57-25
2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 58-24
2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

total = 24 playoff series victories



Lebron James playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams


2006-07 Detroit Pistons record: 53-29
2010-11 Boston Celtics Record: 56-26
2010-11 Chicago Bulls Record: 62-20
2012-13 Indiana Pacers Record: 50-32
2012-13 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58–24
2013-14 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2014-15 Chicago Bulls Record: 50-32
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks Record: 60-22
2015-16 Toronto Raptors Record: 56–26
2015-16 Golden State Warriors Record: 73-9
2016-17 Toronto Raptors Record: 51–31
2016-17 Boston Celtics Record: 53–29
2017-18 Toronto Raptors Record: 59–23
2017-18 Boston Celtics Record: 55–27



total = 14 playoff series victories

I'd say start from 2001 for Kobe when he was arguably top 3 in the league. 2000 or before he wasn't.

[Shooter]

I'd say start from 2001 for Kobe when he was arguably top 3 in the league. 2000 or before he wasn't.

Duh, those are 100% Shaq series wins.

Kobe wasn't a #1 option until 2008 so start from 2008. Maybe we can give him credit from 2004 to current.

Kobe, 2004 to retire = 12
LeBron, 2006 to current = 18

[Kiddlovesnets]

How about, against 55+ wins and 60+ wins teams? The likes of 50-32 Blazers and 51-31 Timberwolves, are much closer to 45-49 wins first round teams, than 55-65 wins title contenders.

[Shooter]

How about, against 55+ wins and 60+ wins teams? The likes of 50-32 Blazers and 51-31 Timberwolves, are much closer to 45-49 wins first round teams, than 55-65 wins title contenders.

How about seasons shooting over .469% fg

Kobe = 0 for 20
LeBron = 16 for 17

[TheGoatest]

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[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron adding more 50 win beatdowns vs HOU, DEN, MIA..

even this one is turning into a nightmare for Kobetards, lol

[8Ball]

Kobe Bryant playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams

1997-98 Seattle SuperSonics Record: 61-21
1999-00 Phoenix Suns Record: 53-29
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 59-23
1999-00 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2000-01 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 50-32
2000-01 Sacramento Kings Record: 55-27
2000-01 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers Record: 56-26
2001-02 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2001-02 Sacramento Kings Record: 61-21
2001-02 New Jersey Nets Record: 52-30
2002-03 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 51-31
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs Record: 57-25
2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 58-24
2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

total = 24 playoff series victories



Lebron James playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams


2006-07 Detroit Pistons record: 53-29
2010-11 Boston Celtics Record: 56-26
2010-11 Chicago Bulls Record: 62-20
2012-13 Indiana Pacers Record: 50-32
2012-13 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58–24
2013-14 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2014-15 Chicago Bulls Record: 50-32
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks Record: 60-22
2015-16 Toronto Raptors Record: 56–26
2015-16 Golden State Warriors Record: 73-9
2016-17 Toronto Raptors Record: 51–31
2016-17 Boston Celtics Record: 53–29
2017-18 Toronto Raptors Record: 59–23
2017-18 Boston Celtics Record: 55–27



total = 14 playoff series victories

Add
2012 Pacers
2012 OKC

2020 Houston
2020 Denver

LeBron at 18 now.

[TheCorporation]

Duh, those are 100% Shaq series wins.

Kobe wasn't a #1 option until 2008 so start from 2008. Maybe we can give him credit from 2004 to current.

Kobe, 2004 to retire = 12
LeBron, 2006 to current = 18

Time to add 2 more, the 2020 Nuggets and 2020 Rockets

Nuggets were 46-27 = 51.67 win pace
Rockets were 44-28 = 50.11 win pace

Update
Kobe, 2004 to retire = 12
LeBron, 2006 to current = 20

Poor fella never had a chance.

[light]

Kobe is not in the conversation so this is pointless.

That would be like saying, "Reggie Miller vs LeBron James."

Nobody gives a sh-t.

[Roundball_Rock]

Lebron James playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams


2006-07 Detroit Pistons record: 53-29
2010-11 Boston Celtics Record: 56-26
2010-11 Chicago Bulls Record: 62-20
2012-13 Indiana Pacers Record: 50-32
2012-13 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58–24
2013-14 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
2014-15 Chicago Bulls Record: 50-32
2014-15 Atlanta Hawks Record: 60-22
2015-16 Toronto Raptors Record: 56–26
2015-16 Golden State Warriors Record: 73-9
2016-17 Toronto Raptors Record: 51–31
2016-17 Boston Celtics Record: 53–29
2017-18 Toronto Raptors Record: 59–23
2017-18 Boston Celtics Record: 55–27



total = 14 playoff series victories

This is deceptive. It excludes 50 win caliber teams in the shortened 12' season. OKC was a 58 win pace team, IND a 52 win pace team.

The OP was before this year's postseason but the Nuggets and Rockets were 50+ win teams over a full season.

The actual total is 18.

[ArbitraryWater]

LeBron adding more 50 win beatdowns vs HOU, DEN, MIA..

even this one is turning into a nightmare for Kobetards, lol


3 more 50 win beatdowns ADDED

[ArbitraryWater]

This is deceptive. It excludes 50 win caliber teams in the shortened 12' season. OKC was a 58 win pace team, IND a 52 win pace team.

The OP was before this year's postseason but the Nuggets and Rockets were 50+ win teams over a full season.

The actual total is 18.


so was Miami.