View Full Version : Are the Celtics better without Hayward?
AirBonner
08-30-2020, 04:42 PM
I think they are at the least better defensively
juju151111
08-30-2020, 04:47 PM
I think they are at the least better defensively
They are, but sometimes Smart goes Cold. They should bring him off the bench.
Wally450
08-30-2020, 05:38 PM
Statistically they’re better without him than with him. But having him come off the bench when he comes back provides us with another ball handler and limits the minutes where we need to play Semi.
Real Men Wear Green
08-30-2020, 06:06 PM
They aren't better. They are used to playing without him and are still good but you don't improve by losing a guy that averages 17+. Overreacting to some early success. Best ball we've seen in years was still when Walker and Hayward were healthy earlier in the season and the Celtics were a threat to make the #1 seed.
But they are better without Irving.
So it just feels like addition by subtraction if that's the case
MrFonzworth
08-30-2020, 09:42 PM
Yep.
NBAGOAT
08-30-2020, 10:02 PM
Trade him for turner. Win/win move
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
08-31-2020, 01:29 AM
Yes Ive been saying this all season
Hayward will get 30 points on 12/20 shooting against a bum team to boost his stats but then disappear against an elite team/defense the next game with 8 points on 2/13. His season averages look nice but that doesnt show his level against top teams where hes a choker.
Defense is MUCH better without him. Jaylen, Tatum, Kemba and Smart are more important for the team. Only thing is their bench is inconsistent so when the bench doesnt bring anything theyll miss Gordon. Gordon is a good playmaker/shooter and slows things down when 2-3 of Kemba/Tatum/Jaylen are resting. That is all hes good for
Theyre 18-5 without him now including the playoffs. And the losses were by
1pt @ SAC - Smart nearly had a gamewinner
3pts @ LAC - OT game
4pts @ Denver
5pts @ Brooklyn
5pts @ Utah - Jaylen also missed the game
For the future Boston should let him walk or at best he should be a 6th man Manu Ginobli role. He isnt bout that life. HEs not a needle mover
DoctorP
08-31-2020, 06:21 AM
I think they are at the least better defensively
they keep winning without him. maybe so. plus he gets injured whenever he is needed. i say trade em
E_Stamkos
08-31-2020, 08:26 AM
Give me Hayward off the bench on my team any day
CelticBaller
08-31-2020, 11:55 AM
If smart could average 15+ yeah we would be
Vino24
08-31-2020, 11:58 AM
Give me Hayward off the bench on my team any day
He would be sitting on the bench more than anything
I dont think they miss him. they have so many guards and wing players you just give more minutes to smart tatum and brown. maybe it even helps those players get a better rhythm.
Derka
08-31-2020, 12:44 PM
I'd rather have Hayward out there than see nearly 30 minutes of Brad Wanamaker and Semi Ojeleye.
dbugz
08-31-2020, 02:04 PM
I'd rather have Hayward out there than see nearly 30 minutes of Brad Wanamaker and Semi Ojeleye.
Brad Stevens should permanently ban wanamaker from entering the paint, everytime he drives on the paint, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
Why Semi? dude have superb game guarding trashcal?
imdaman99
08-31-2020, 02:21 PM
He has a lot of games where he's invisible, even when he's not injured lol.
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